Meray Humsafar[ARY]|Thread #2|Farhan Saeed, Hania Aamir - Page 35

Originally posted by: .Dilwale.

Agreed. I mean why even go there if you are gonna leave it half way. Just don’t take up such an issue. Simple.

Oh and remember how they mentioned Hala going back to college in one episode because people on twitter demanded that makers should resume her education. So just to pacify everyone they included a scene in one episode and then got her pregnant in the next lol. And now both the makers and MH’s audience has forgotten about that.

Not the audience but the makers have certainly forgotten a lot of things. Rumi-Driver call incident........Hamza was supposed to investigate that and he didn't. The abortion pills incident where any sane person/husband would have tried to understand the whole situation and find the main culprit. It wasn't a small thing to be forgotten.

And no way they were going to write a story to highlight Hala's trauma. I mean the original script has even Hamza hitting Hala. They wrote a story only to show the abuse and not to address any abuse or show Hala away from this toxic environment.

Originally posted by: .Dilwale.

Like I said he won’t be butchered, Farhan/director won’t let it happen. Also farhan also said in an interview that he won’t doubt Hala so there’s that.

Also no single character can run a show. In MH’s case it has always been the chemistry imo. But to each their own. I am either a Farhan or Hania fan as such and just speaking objectively.

He had also said that Hamza has underlying anger management issues.

He had also said that Hamza might for might not doubt Hala.

Originally posted by: .Dilwale.

Amazing post. The problem is that the viewership of this show is mostly young-ish. And they only watch the show because of the romance/chemistry and the notion of a “perfect” husband (I mean I have even read stuff like if you have such a good husband, there is no need for anything else in life, not even parents lol). So I doubt it has much diverse/intellectual viewership. I hope you get what I am trying to say. Very few are watching it for apart from the aforementioned reasons. So one can hardly expect them to think this deep and along these lines. They are also incapable to do so in all honesty.

That said, there are still so many who have recognised and talked about Hala’s abuse trauma etc. On twitter, Insta, YT but glad to see such a post here as well. I can bet the writer/director did not in their wildest dreams imagine that people would actually recognise & sympathise with Hala’s psychological issues. So they don’t know how to deal with it now. And it’s clear they don’t care as well. They are too busy maintaining/saving Hamza’s good husband image and giving romantic Halza scenes because they also know who their target audience is and the reasons they watch the show. Sad but true.

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Agree with a lot of this. All the characters make sense and while Hala's not telling about Khurram is irritating as a viewer, from her POV its totally understandable.

Hamza in the pills track really lost the spark of his character to me, but like said, he has shown signs before. Hamza is very inconsistent and missleading too. On one hand he says dont tell me about what SJ does to you, then yesterday he told her to stood up to SJ, on one hand he believes Hala can never ever cheat on him, on the other he literally accuse her of trying to abort their baby 😕

And I had to go back and rewatch all episodes 20-27 because they all make no sense. In one episode SJ literally tries to murder her and her baby both, in the next, Hamza tells her to watch her / take care of her. Hamza btw - expect apologies from Hala, and that's valid, but he hasnt at all apologised for such a big accusation he threw at her and behave as if nothing happened.

SJ is full psycho, agar its a copy of Humsafar then Farida had consistency. SJ is literally a chameleon as Hala called her, one second she is making eggs for Hala, the next she is telling her she isn't special and no one gives a f*ck about her. One second she pretends tells Hala to rest, then she literally physically manhandle/womanhandle her like the pushing in the non confession scene and the grabbing her roughly in the lawn scene, all in front of Hamza and he doesnt find anything weird.

Sameen isn't a Sara and her character arc could have been so better but their ruined her with the shaadi thing. Khurram changing so fast is a bit shady, I hope its not part of some plan of his.

The editing of the confession scene was disastrous. If there's some suspense and later on flashback, it could have been better done, ajeeb tha, abrupt cut.

Finally that promo ugh - I am going to wait and see as always, I dont base myself on promos, but from the bits we saw, Hala is very very naive and easily manipulated, and the part Hamza heard with Khurram holding SJ's hand is going to be terribly missleading and create a qayamat between Halza as Farhan said.

Am I the only one who noticed btw that Hala seemed in pain when climbing the stairs (or was she just nervous and hesitating ?), they could show her misscarrying for real right after this moment with all the added tension... Which would maybe create even more tensions with Hamza blaming her for it, but then at the end, when he gets to know SJ plotted and they lost their baby because of that, it might be the one thing that makes him take Hala and move out + the Rumi track ofcourse. Maybe I have hope against hope, that there's a good message at the end but right now its disastrous writing/editing.

Originally posted by: BlueWaters20

I feel so let down by this drama. I stopped watching Pakistani dramas a while back because they are so regressive. They start out well and for the first 3-5 episodes I’m like ‘wow, this seems so good’; then they completely derail and I abandon them. So frustrating. This one seemed different. Sure the storyline isn’t groundbreaking but the representation of the male lead WAS groundbreaking. For the first time we have a male character who seemingly doesn’t fall for the toxic mother in law’s schemes, who trusts his wife unequivocally, who encourages his wife to assert her independence and develop her confidence. I was loving it.

Then it started derailing. The first sign of the script going downhill was Hamza admitting his mother is in the wrong but telling Hala that despite this he doesn’t want to hear about the wrong things she does. This is completely illogical. He’s essentially told her that even if his mother abuses her she should keep quiet because he can’t hear a negative word about his mother.

The second sign of the script derailing was Hamza going ballistic when Hala told him his mother gave her the pills, and then falling for Shajahan’s lies and actually having the audacity to accuse Hala of attempting to abort their baby. At this point I was done with the show.

Unlike most I actually understand Hala not telling Hamza about her past with Khurram. Hamza has shown her that when it comes to life-altering matters, if it’s Hala’s word against Shajahan’s he will believe his mother. If he can believe Hala tried to kill her own baby, why would Hala have any confidence that he’ll believe she does not have an ongoing relationship with Khurram or love him?

Hala is a uneducated girl, who from her tweens onwards has been socialised to believe that she is worth absolutely nothing. She has never in her life had any kind of a support system. The one person who has consistently stood by her is Dadi, and whilst Dadi has no issues with going head to head with Shajahan, the truth is she has no real power within the family. If Raees wants Hala out, Dadi will not be able to stop him.

Shajahan has also brainwashed Hala, from a young age, into thinking that no one will ever believe her. That everyone thinks she is a liar. Hamza has reinforced this by not only disbelieving Hala about the pills but then accusing her of attempting to kill the child.

I’m with Hala all the way. Yea she cries a lot, but her behaviour makes perfect sense to me from a psychological perspective.

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Originally posted by: The_Imane

Agree with a lot of this. All the characters make sense and while Hala's not telling about Khurram is irritating as a viewer, from her POV its totally understandable.

Hamza in the pills track really lost the spark of his character to me, but like said, he has shown signs before. Hamza is very inconsistent and missleading too. On one hand he says dont tell me about what SJ does to you, then yesterday he told her to stood up to SJ, on one hand he believes Hala can never ever cheat on him, on the other he literally accuse her of trying to abort their baby 😕

And I had to go back and rewatch all episodes 20-27 because they all make no sense. In one episode SJ literally tries to murder her and her baby both, in the next, Hamza tells her to watch her / take care of her. Hamza btw - expect apologies from Hala, and that's valid, but he hasnt at all apologised for such a big accusation he threw at her and behave as if nothing happened.

SJ is full psycho, agar its a copy of Humsafar then Farida had consistency. SJ is literally a chameleon as Hala called her, one second she is making eggs for Hala, the next she is telling her she isn't special and no one gives a f*ck about her. One second she pretends tells Hala to rest, then she literally physically manhandle/womanhandle her like the pushing in the non confession scene and the grabbing her roughly in the lawn scene, all in front of Hamza and he doesnt find anything weird.

Sameen isn't a Sara and her character arc could have been so better but their ruined her with the shaadi thing. Khurram changing so fast is a bit shady, I hope its not part of some plan of his.

The editing of the confession scene was disastrous. If there's some suspense and later on flashback, it could have been better done, ajeeb tha, abrupt cut.

Finally that promo ugh - I am going to wait and see as always, I dont base myself on promos, but from the bits we saw, Hala is very very naive and easily manipulated, and the part Hamza heard with Khurram holding SJ's hand is going to be terribly missleading and create a qayamat between Halza as Farhan said.

Am I the only one who noticed btw that Hala seemed in pain when climbing the stairs (or was she just nervous and hesitating ?), they could show her misscarrying for real right after this moment with all the added tension... Which would maybe create even more tensions with Hamza blaming her for it, but then at the end, when he gets to know SJ plotted and they lost their baby because of that, it might be the one thing that makes him take Hala and move out + the Rumi track ofcourse. Maybe I have hope against hope, that there's a good message at the end but right now its disastrous writing/editing.

The changes they brought once the show became a phenomenon should have been more refined, else it was your usual ordinary show but atleast with its consistency. Wonder why professional writers fail to deliver in need. Seeing how they were/are still shooting, it was a golden chance.

If they wanted Hamza to become laudable, he needed to show signs of acknowledgement of his mum's behaviour and changing gradually. Maybe a monologue about how hala won't be making things up and there could be some truth in it and then actually trying finding that truth. But all they did was add a scene here n there where he tells her to go fight her battles, without any infantry.

The pills episode also had potential if makers hadn't freaked out by the outrage Hamza received. Rather than writing it off completely, hence also erasing hala's tremendous defiance, they could have put the err to his human and let him feel guilty for his actions, and try and find out why the tension between SJ n Hala reached a breaking point. It would have been growth too and everyone loves a redeeming hero. Why he needs to be faultless isn't making any sense.

Although Hala, with all her crying is still consistent for me. She has a decade worth of trauma yet she has come a long way from her shivering at the sight of SJ to speaking up infront of her, albeit little. From pulling away to holding on to Hamza and putting khurram in his place time n again.

People are hung up on her not telling Hamza the truth, which yes he deserves to know because it involves a lot of people at this moment, all while ignoring that Hala is atleast justified in her fears. She stands to lose the one person who makes her feel loved, she's pregnant and can be left alone and she hardly has anywhere else to go. And it isn't like she's at peace, that shows her character. She's been repenting and understands the weight of her lie.

Years of torture isn't going to disappear, leaving behind a strong Hala with just after a few months of mostly loving but not always supportive marriage.

The only issue equal to Hala's fear is Sameen becoming a scapegoat, but then Sameen n her parents should have known better. I don't feel for her with a passion coz she's only stout for herself and acted ignorant about the abuse hala was suffering infront of her. She hasn't done anything wrong with Hala but that is because she hasn't done anything. Except for that one time when she hid Hala's confession of liking a guy.

Rest she was shown to believe SJ will break off Halza marriage so she can then marry Hamza, was ok blaming all her misery on hala, physically hurting her and not to forget her mourning ritual at Hala's pregnancy, which was abysmal.

Hala didn't push Khurram in her direction n only came to know about it when everything was fixed. She has her naivety but where are sameen n her parents' brains?

Hala on the other hand has always cared for sameen and others. She stood in between Sameen n the cabbie, she thought of everyone before accepting Hamza, she was asking for a divorce so that everyone else can be happy and now she'll be going with SJ to khurram, in her most vulnerable state, for sameen.

It would have been best had makers let sameen aquire a scholarship of some sort n leave for abroad. A clean end for her and a justifiable one.

Khurram's change of heart on the other hand seems genuine, definitely sudden but they are shooting the wedding so maybe this is how the makers will let him of the hook n he won't get the beating i wanted him to get. Also I feel he'll act as the agent of chaos n lie, somehow making it seem the meeting is innocent coz his dislike for SJ is very consistent.

@bold(1) it looked and sounded so stupid of him. Even if they want to ignore episode 23, SJ is still the last person Hamza should be asking this to.

@bold(2) you are right, she clearly looked in pain. but she looks fine in Ks flat. either way hala needs to be taken to the hospital, girl has been in constant pain and stress.

Originally posted by: 18shabbo

The changes they brought once the show became a phenomenon should have been more refined, else it was your usual ordinary show but atleast with its consistency. Wonder why professional writers fail to deliver in need. Seeing how they were/are still shooting, it was a golden chance.

If they wanted Hamza to become laudable, he needed to show signs of acknowledgement of his mum's behaviour and changing gradually. Maybe a monologue about how hala won't be making things up and there could be some truth in it and then actually trying finding that truth. But all they did was add a scene here n there where he tells her to go fight her battles, without any infantry.

The pills episode also had potential if makers hadn't freaked out by the outrage Hamza received. Rather than writing it off completely, hence also erasing hala's tremendous defiance, they could have put the err to his human and let him feel guilty for his actions, and try and find out why the tension between SJ n Hala reached a breaking point. It would have been growth too and everyone loves a redeeming hero. Why he needs to be faultless isn't making any sense.

Although Hala, with all her crying is still consistent for me. She has a decade worth of trauma yet she has come a long way from her shivering at the sight of SJ to speaking up infront of her, albeit little. From pulling away to holding on to Hamza and putting khurram in his place time n again.

People are hung up on her not telling Hamza the truth, which yes he deserves to know because it involves a lot of people at this moment, all while ignoring that Hala is atleast justified in her fears. She stands to lose the one person who makes her feel loved, she's pregnant and can be left alone and she hardly has anywhere else to go. And it isn't like she's at peace, that shows her character. She's been repenting and understands the weight of her lie.

Years of torture isn't going to disappear, leaving behind a strong Hala with just after a few months of mostly loving but not always supportive marriage.

The only issue equal to Hala's fear is Sameen becoming a scapegoat, but then Sameen n her parents should have known better. I don't feel for her with a passion coz she's only stout for herself and acted ignorant about the abuse hala was suffering infront of her. She hasn't done anything wrong with Hala but that is because she hasn't done anything. Except for that one time when she hid Hala's confession of liking a guy.

Rest she was shown to believe SJ will break off Halza marriage so she can then marry Hamza, was ok blaming all her misery on hala, physically hurting her and not to forget her mourning ritual at Hala's pregnancy, which was abysmal.

Hala didn't push Khurram in her direction n only came to know about it when everything was fixed. She has her naivety but where are sameen n her parents' brains?

Hala on the other hand has always cared for sameen and others. She stood in between Sameen n the cabbie, she thought of everyone before accepting Hamza, she was asking for a divorce so that everyone else can be happy and now she'll be going with SJ to khurram, in her most vulnerable state, for sameen.

It would have been best had makers let sameen aquire a scholarship of some sort n leave for abroad. A clean end for her and a justifiable one.

Khurram's change of heart on the other hand seems genuine, definitely sudden but they are shooting the wedding so maybe this is how the makers will let him of the hook n he won't get the beating i wanted him to get. Also I feel he'll act as the agent of chaos n lie, somehow making it seem the meeting is innocent coz his dislike for SJ is very consistent.

@bold(1) it looked and sounded so stupid of him. Even if they want to ignore episode 23, SJ is still the last person Hamza should be asking this to.

@bold(2) you are right, she clearly looked in pain. but she looks fine in Ks flat. either way hala needs to be taken to the hospital, girl has been in constant pain and stress.

@bold that is such a nice idea, I totally agree, people are too keen on wanting a "perfect" hero. Hamza could have smowly realised he was wrong and dig further. As of now there's little regret on that whole matter from his side and complete amnesia for how blindly he trusts SJ around Hala even when she is shoving, shaking and pushing her around - while KNOWING she possibly tried to kill her. 😕

@Italic I don't blame Hala imo and totally agree with you. She is totally valid in her misstrust of everything and even her crying. I was just saying I get why **some** audience might find it weird, and viewers see it as frustrating that she doesnt tell about Khurram because the story isnt evolving. But from her pov, is justified. Hala needs therapy and months of it + being away from that mad house. Plus the pregnancy track when she herself is vulnerable and emotionally unstable is so bizzare and premature.

@underlined I dont feel sorry at all for Sameen. I like her character and agree with you, writers just dumbed her + Jalees down for this stupid track (Sophia was always like this), they are so out of character and blindly behaving as if Khurram is their only lifegoals. They were a smart and clear minded father daughter duo, this make no sense.

@bold + italic She does look fine at Khurram's, but the way she is sitting and Khurram is kneeling infront of her is still giving me that vibe. Hala isn't that be-takaluf to just go at some man's and sit that close, she even still sit at a distance from Hamza, she could have talked to Khurram from a distance, be it sitting or standing. I feel that she felt unwell, Khurram made her sit there and knelt infront of her, why would he or else ? He would sit infront. All of it so Hamza sees that angle and missunderstands that.

This is why I enjoy forums which are not dominated by fangirls. It’s much more fun to discuss the show that way. Because fans will never see or think beyond their fav’s character.

IMO Sameen is not a good person despite being so educated. Remind me if I am wrong but we never saw her defend or protect Hala from all the abuse she was put through happening right in front of her eyes. And she treated her terribly after Hamza married Hala instead of her. Insulting her, vandalising her room, getting physical with her. Even when Hala fainted right in front of her eyes, she didn’t even move a muscle. Is that what being educated means? Because otherwise she even lacks basic ethics.

And I also thought I was the only one who noticed that Hala seemed sick while climbing the stairs to Khurram’s apartment. I guess that got lost between all the Hala bashing lol. I now foresee Khurram as Hala’s well wisher in the coming episodes, as he will realise after this incident how Shahjahan was playing both him and Hala from the very beginning to suit her evil agendas.

The writing is inconsistent and terrible atm because both the writer/director have only one purpose in mind. To salvage Hamza. The rest be damned. People were loving Hala’s progression so much and they ruined it just for the sake of sensationalism. Obviously it backfired. The show is degrading in quality day by day. Look at how the views and trp have decreased.

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