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There is a scene (leaked script) where Ram confronts Varun & Krish is also present. Small hope that Ram also shows up at the bakery..maybe Krish informs him đ¤
Priya apne room jake Ram ke date night ki tayari dekhega to apko lagta hai muh kholegi wo that too for family matter... But according to BTS Ram knows Varun is the black sheep so may be Krish said Ram
Originally posted by: DazzlingLight
There is a scene (leaked script) where Ram confronts Varun & Krish is also present. Small hope that Ram also shows up at the bakery..maybe Krish informs him đ¤
Doubt that coz Ram is busy dealing with Nandu. Unless we are living in a Harry Potter world where u can appear and disappear from places like u please, itâs not possible.
As promised, đ¤
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Originally posted by: BeyondHorizon
yaar Nandu is narcissistic mother and vk is absent father, emotionally atleast⌠otherwise ram would have been better at handling these things⌠Nandu might be narcissistic but we do not know much about VK na? He has been dead a long time ago and from the fb we saw, his world revolved around Ram.
We really donât know that, true!
But something is indicative of his manipulative nature as they are drawing ramâs parallels with eshaan and his nature.
Remember,The dialogue, koi tho âapne dad ka betaâ hai⌠by Nandu when Eshaan was introducedâŚ
Again, just a speculation that , may be ram is not actually a son of vk, but someone who has been given the status of his son so that he becomes the DHAAL of the family and his backstory, is to be deduced.
Nandu despite all her flaws is not vile like MS.
What makes you think that she isnât vile?
She is in her own way, vile too⌠she might not have done murder plans, but she was instrumental in getting Akki trapped by Sid and shubu and she made sure she sent raya to silver moon. And after all being said and done, she now puts the blame on her own son âTera metoo kaandâđ and recently when the will was made according to her wishes, she went from âwe did itâ to âI did itâ with a gleam of greedđ˛
She doesnât mind using her own children in gaining her motives, forget imbibing them with ethical and moral values⌠when She does that and so well, even her own brother is afraid of her đ¤ˇââď¸
Wo sage ko bhi dara/dhamka sakti hai, wo usually ânot vileâ category me fit nahi hoti.
In some sense, she is similar to MS,
she passes threats when she thinks that the person she is passing those threats wonât retort and are dependent on her⌠and she definitely did that with mami and vedika . And she goes meek and sweet and manipulative and calculated in front of people she has to derive a benefit from.
She did have a generous side to her when she accepted a motherless child and loved him.
Go to wedding epis, she talks about how she had to become a mother overnight and that ram made her a mother the moment she walked in as vkâs wife⌠her dialogue sweet, her tone sly and her eyes with a long crinkle,
I should not admire this, but Simone, Narayani, Sangita, Shubaavi, mastered this art of clean bowling audiences while being vileđ I could add jen too, but she is incomparable.no cap. đ
She got selfish along the way but hopefully in some corner of her heart, she might have an ounce of love for Ram. âS benefits.
With Ekta maiyya, its possible her character turns black from grey even
same thing,
Pri is also a daughter of narcissist, but it is the father side.
And
MM is a victim of narcissistic spouse and the society that dictated misconstrued meaning of a reverent sloka that pati is theparameswarđ, MM might be a victim but there is a guardian in each mother that shields their child. So I find it hard to excuse MM.
even I find this hard to digest⌠we were told that she held herself together as she tried to build a secure life for her daughters , wo bhi 3, at first and 4th laterâŚ
she stood up to him in the past , as in during annulment kand, prawn situation, why is she not doing it again? To Keep up the appearances of Honour whose reality is out in the open infront of all, including priâs in laws?
As of now, Sara does not know about Varun but though she has never gotten any love or respect from him, she respects him for accepting her with another man's child and the only reason she is bound to him is because he loves Ishaan a lot. She is tolerating him for the sake of her son.
But for whose sake is MM tolerating MS? And for what? At least if this man had been a loving father to their daughters, despite his betrayal she could have put up with him.
Same thing, the why of reason is not digestable considering her past actions against him⌠but yes, she does show a certain ptsd like symptomsâŚ. But we never knowđ¤ˇââď¸
But forget being loving, even an enemy will not curse anybody the way this guy curses Priya, his own child.
It is said that the kids are not just that, in certain sense greater than the parents ⌠he thought that priya was a curse and he married Rakhi to beget a male child⌠and his inadequacy as father is reflected in how raj turned out to be.
The very son he soooo wanted for whom he left the gem of a daughter , who is standing against him with a greater humanity and capability and compassionâŚ.that his own son wishes to get the support ofđ¤Ł
His curses are to justify his own sinsâŚ
She was silent when he humiliated Priya but she is also silent after knowing he tried to kill her.
Donât even remind me⌠I was extremely pissed off đĄon the day he walked in as if sh is his own house while Shikki were there.
while the actual sloka actually means pati must be likeparameswar, benevolent and reasonable and protective âŚ.âşď¸ -Like how ram said so in yesterdayâs episode.
It will go out the window the moment Nandu accuses Priya
So not much hopes from Ram.
Banda is thinking these days⌠but again, who knows đ¤ˇââď¸
We have discussed this, if ram or mm arenât seeing sense infront of Nandu or ms, it is their mind/ psyche playing in the pattern against themselves coz of past traumaâŚ
While Nandu manipulates, MS threatens. So it is different.
I told how Nandu and MS are kinda similar in manipulation and threatening patternsâŚ.
But ,donât you think threatening is also a form of manipulation đ¤
Nandu draws out helplessness out of sympathy while MS draws out helplessness out of lack of itâŚđ
In this case mm is aware of ms, but keeps quiet coz of Varun thing, whatever that is⌠if that comes out in open⌠I think mm wonât bow down to ms that muchâŚ
Not much hopes there coz if Priya's near death incident wasn't an eyeopener, I donno what will be
property is linked between them, other than that, I donât see why soods entertain msâŚ. But the behaviour they have around him clearly represents recovering Stockholmâs except Sandy.đ¤ˇââď¸
I will put a pic up, see the characteristics, doesnât it ring a bell?
Priya will be the one handling ramâs side of narcs and Ram will be handling priâs side , therefore the role reversals and switching placements! Coz : read point no. 18đ
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there is leaked bts where Varun is reverse blackmailing ram and krish𤣠ram is in brown suit and eshan was there tooOriginally posted by: vaidharbhi95
Priya did a huge blunder by hiding MS murder attempt, if Nandini finds out about Varun , MS involvement in VK case before Priya tells them, she will surely accuse her of saving her family and rightfully so.
Pri should not hide about Varun at any cost. Why will anyone believe her then that she isn't doing it to save her family ?
Tried to quote it but somehow not able to. So will reply here.
Originally posted by: vaidharbhi95
Priya did a huge blunder by hiding MS murder attempt, if Nandini finds out about Varun , MS involvement in VK case before Priya tells them, she will surely accuse her of saving her family and rightfully so.
Pri should not hide about Varun at any cost. Why will anyone believe her then that she isn't doing it to save her family ?
Why should anyone believe it? She was hiding about MS to save her family - specifically to save her mother the extreme humiliation.
And again, when she got proof to nail MS, she deleted the proof of Ramâs assailant and sacrificed the chance to make Ram safe, for the sake of her sisterâs happiness (i.e. Neerajâs release).
Priya has thrown Ram under the bus for her family far far far more than he has prioritised his family over her.
High time someone called Priya out over this. Kyunki Priya is trying to play god with her unilateral decision-making & hiding over Ramâs safety.
Originally posted by: BeyondHorizon
Tried to quote it but somehow not able to. So will reply here.
- Coming to Nandu - I have not watched the show E2E I am afraid. So have not seen all the scenes. Just watched it on and off from the time Krish made an entry (oh plz don't think I am Piyush's fan. Just caught a few RaYa scenes on Youtube and my friend had told me a long time ago, this show was nice). Loved DP and NM chemistry and it has improved a lot from their PKDH days. Back to Nandu, Ram and Ishaan are similar? How? They are as different as cheese and chalk. I don't think Ram is not VK's son. That will too much of a coincidence and I dont think Ishaan is important enough for parallels drawn between them. Plus his mom might not be anything like Sara.
- I felt Nandu isn't vile like MS coz unless someone comes in her way, she is happy to ignore them. I had seen the first few episodes till RaYa agreed to get married and then switched back to current ones. She only wanted Shivi married to avoid a pregnancy scandal. But once it was confirmed Shivi is not, she was in two minds. Plus she got an easy excuse in the form of MS and his son to call off Akki Shivi wedding. When Shivi was not pregnant, there was no reason for her to marry Akki in Nandu's opinion. She could get Shivi married into a prestigious business family. But Shivi waylaid her plans by eloping with Akki. She thought Priya would live like a furniture in KM as everyone assumed Ram would never move on from Vedika. But the moment she realised Ram's feelings for Priya were changing, she knew she could no longer have her control over Ram. The only way she could drive a wedge between RaYa was by destroying their foundation for marriage - Akki and Shivi. So she conspired with Vedika also hoping that Ram still pined for her but that backfired.
- Jen? Oh yes, she is incomparable đ Forever a Jen fan â¤ď¸
- Coming to MM - I will appreciate her the day she stands up to MS and boots him out completely from their lives and the bakery. She is so inconsistent. She can stand up against an outsider like maami but not her cheat cum murderer ex.
- Raj is against MS? Huh? đ˛ When did this happen?
- I don't want to get my hopes up high. I guess the day MM shuts MS and Sara disowns Varun, it might instill some faith in Ram regarding the Sood family and he will never question Priya for MS' deeds. If MS was trying to get Neeraj in trouble to save himself, Priya could have told Ram and he would have ensured MS got punished without Neeraj, Mythri or anyone else suffering for that. MS would have been behind bars for attempt to murder now
- Not saying threatening is not manipulation but it is a different kind. Nandu disguises hers with maternal affections whereas MS doesn't feel a need to make any pretense. He is what he is. So I guess you are right. Nandu is probably more vile đ
- I don't get why the Soods don't feel compelled to throw rotten eggs and tomatoes at MS. He is disgusting, PERIOD đ¤˘
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THIS!!! My point exactly!
Originally posted by: Balh2fan
I think the scene between Nandini and Ram was important and felt a possible connection with your predictions⌠especially when Ram said â Meri jagah Priya legiâ⌠he also switched sides with her during the confession⌠and the emphasis on the willâŚthis is definitely online with the holi songs⌠where the Kapoorâs follow Priya and Soods follow RamâŚThis this is mirroring the past⌠where Ram inherited everything from his motherâŚ
Yes, it is. As I see the past and present parallels, they are in the story. But I think the full disclosure will happen only when the series shuts down. Till then, they will continue with all the bogus treatments. No point in even trying to salvage anymore.
The online TRP has dunked to the bottom. I remember the days when it used to be in the top 3. The TV TRP is stuck at 0.5 and may go up with the leap. There is a huge difference in the preferences between ITV and the online audience. This is like trying to find a balance between traditional and contemporary cultures, which is a very tough task.
Imagine showing The Bold and The Beautiful in prime time. Who is going to watch, and who the target audience is? Instead, why will people not watch BBT if it was running or Blue Bloods, Veep, or above all, House? So, my point is BALH 2 is their afternoon show and we, the online audience, are like the prime time show in the USA.
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