oh yes. I remember you had mentioned it too. I don’t follow them on social media anyway. None.I have been doing the same thing .. wrote cannot follow you all in SM .. if you promote toxicity..
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oh yes. I remember you had mentioned it too. I don’t follow them on social media anyway. None.I have been doing the same thing .. wrote cannot follow you all in SM .. if you promote toxicity..
they all earn money through endorsements
Originally posted by: sherry_24
I was also of the opinion that we should wait, but there is no smoke without fire. And there is no point crying over split milk. So make noise while there is still a chance. Either it is true or it was a consciously planted fire to cause smoke. Either ways it has triggered people. For me even though I have not completely believed it, the very possibility plot is not tolerable. Even if it is planted for whatever reasons it has put me off like never before. So much that I can’t watch it till I’m sure this crap is not happening. If they are willing to take that risk with their game plans, their choice.
This is also a sure shot way to get attention. As we all know, Ghum team thrives on negativity. There's another show starting on Zee, which has one of the top TV actors, this could be a knee jerk reaction to that serial. Depending on which way the other one works. This actor SA has been their channel favourite and his serial was unbeatable almost for 10 years! it has only now started falling, this year.
I find it problematic that a suppotive husband who wants his wife to be doctor , in the same vein is also planning a family now when she hasnt even started internship. Hypocritical and BS hai. How is she supposed to do internship when pregnant....if they really wanted to be progressive they would show somehow imply that contraceptive options were used. Such a load of hogwash it it. Internship is the last time anyone would wanna plan a baby.
Nothing per show written update suggests they are going to halt the BS track that they are planning. I do not buy the excuse that surrogacy track will do khulasa of pps true colors because that should have happened by now in 500 episodes! So if need to tolerate 100 episodes of rubbish and Virat-pp cringe before some so called "khulasa" happens , then thats NOT acceptable to us.. they are deviating from KD for suxh rubbish but when khulasa happens suddenly they'll merge with KD and whitewash everyone. But their crimes are bigger on ghum....
Anyway this show is setting new records for nonsense.
All we can do is complain..rest if they ignore it, then gradually we will stop watching..
I sent the email too... At the same ID.
Got the standard response. Same as Neerja. Exact same language.
Only good thing is they are probably inundated with such communication but still responding. Let's hope it's for the good. 🤞🏻🤞🏻
So far theres no indication they care. I mean they are focused more on baby making than Sai's career. Instead of the rubbish of surrogacy/ infertility drama they could have shown a conflict about Sai not wanting a baby now vs V being more keen on going the family way and ultimately how he understands OR Sairat doing family planning somehow coming out in public domain because anyway nothing is "private" in CN. And that can lead to another ideological fight. BK n gang can think of using contraception as blasphemous and have really outdated views on it and Sairat can explain how its completely OK and the responsible thing to do!
This is just on of the many triggers we have had with the mentality that this show propagates. My issue with this show is much bigger and of wider spectrum of which this is one instance. Definitely a big one though because there are other factors that make it frustrating to watch.
I don't associate myself with the word feminist, I dont resonate with it. The definition of the word is problematic and I cant connect with any of it. Why would one have to beg, plead, request, fight for something that is rightfully theirs? Why does a right to equality that comes naturally be taken away and then granted as a favour, with the opposite gender taking the praises for it?
Just an example. Coincidentally I happened to catch an episode of a south indian show my mum was watching the same day this whole mess started. The story has the ML who is a well educated "broad minded" professor and his love interest (FL) is an engineering student. She decides to work part time as food delivery girl to support her family. One day a customer misbehaves but she gives a befitting reply. The ML, gets protective and asks her to reconsider about continuing this job as it is unsafe. Thats the premise. Now the scene. It is a conversation between the ML & his father who are discussing this incident. Father says every job will have such risks, but you cant label it like that. To which ML says that he treats all jobs equally, and if the kind of job mattered he wouldn’t have given his consent to her decision to do this job. The father says, "that is where the problem lies. Why does she need your permission to work in the first place? She is free to live and take decisions as per her free will. It's her life. As a partner you can give advise and discuss pros and cons, but it ends there. The decision is hers. It is her good heart that she did not counter you at that. You should have ideally praised and encouraged her for fighting back rather than ignoring her brave act and discouraging her. Thats what a good life partner is." Bottom line spouses/partners shouldn't control each other, let each other take their personal decisions, while giving their perspective let the other take their own decision and support them irrespective of what the eventual decision is.
This show has such dubious , double standard statements. The guy can't change his name because he was born and raised by the parents and his family. He is what he is because of his family's efforts, so he bears their name as a reminder of it. But why doesn’t it apply to a woman? Is she not raised and nurtured by her parents? Are their efforts not worthy? Why does such arguments and claims not apply to a female or her family? The ML is expected to work and follow a line of profession as it is a dream, a vision of his parents, his family. And they have invested their sweat and blood in it. But what happens to KJ's dream to make his daughter a doctor? What about his relentless efforts to raise his daughter? It just boils down to the fact that the moment one becomes a parent to a girl they automatically become beneath others and their upbringing and efforts and dreams will be eventually be at the mercy of the her future husband and his family.
All the problems that arise stem out of this faulty mindset. Why does she even have to seek anyone's permission? Bringing in children to this world is entirely parent's prerogative. Because they are the parents, and the children are their responsibility. So the decision if and when is entirely theirs without any pressure or external influence.
The show itself functions around this regressive framework. Where they are hailing a guy who keeps mum when his wife is insulted and persuades her to wait till he is able to get permission from his family ..for what ? For her to pursue a dream, for which she and her father slogged all their life.
Let's not even get into the personal interest accommodations and biases. Its as clear as crystal. The illogical, forced and random insertion of tracks and the subject itself being hyped under the garb "progressive" to cover the orthodox treatment underneath.
Definitely. Relate and resonate with much of what you said.
In some sense, I get that people who think of themselves as broad minded or liberal also may slip up due to some long ingrained tendencies, habits, conditioning.
But my point is that the job of the show is to project that in a fair way. No taking sides. Just show us why people think/do what they do.
And so i dont have a problem with them showing things that happen in society- career vs bahu track or waaris demands or double standards about name change for guy/girl. But my issue is the handling - the way people go scot free for crimes and never called out, and the inconsistencies of the characters especially the leads- mainly V and the utter ridiculousness and zero pov of pp as a character. If they are gonna give her all this SS they better decide what her pov is. Either find a good actor to play her. Or just get rid of her. She is utterly irrelevant to the plot but still a nuisance to the core n keeps popping up between like 90% Sairat moments n scenes just to be a pain in the ass.
And V- if he genuinely cares about Sai's career n takes pride in her- which I believe he does 90% of the time- then why is he hell bent on postponing the inevitable. Why is so unaffected by Sai's discomfort n the pressure of expectations she feels by everything happening. How is he so casual about baby talk knowing that it is definitely not the time to be planning a baby. He seems to be batting from both sides. I know the idea is to show that hes happy they accepted Sai but he also knows it is conditional acceptance - the minute BK knows she will treat her worse than before. And baby planning seems to be something perhaps he is doing to placate bk that she may melt if Sai gets preggers n is gonna give waaris. Because he is clearly seen talking about wanting a baby , wanting a baby NOW and not wanting ONLY sex. He is doing it more out of the intent to start a family rather than just an expression of love. At least thats how he appears. And that is my issue.
And if this surrogacy crap happens, he will 100% watch as Sai gets insulted, he won't be able to prevent it. And eventually he will 100% blur the boundaries with PP and start playing family with her, taking care of her in the name of "zimmedari" and accuse Sai of not understanding and lash out at her, make her feel insulted n insecure. This is the pattern and it won't change. And we know that due to offscreen equations this will be made the MOST cringe, more than even Shruti track.
There are ENOUGH conflicts to explore without surrogacy.
Even just differences of opinion about work-life, planning of kids, finances, ghar vs kaam have SO much potential
And surrogacy dikhana tha toh Shivani ya K bhi hai. Why Sairat/PP. Its obvious its for offscreen reasons and obsession with cringe that leads to such plots.
That is where the issue lies.
They need to showcase the problem first. If it is a mindset or a pattern or a specific issue, they need to establish or create the regressive background to be able to address and promote the change. They have a platform and have the power to influence. But they themselves are breeding on the mindset. Instead of breaking the taboos and orthodoxy they are churning out more and more of it functioning in this vicious loop. So the base is established but change never happens. Just like you, I'm not complaining about them showing such issues, but they in a way patronise it, or shove it under the carpet eventually. Neither do the address it not provide a closure. They just play around for a while and move on to another one.
The problem is the abruptness of the this whole track. They just got married. Show things which are more relevant between newly weds, marital discords or problems that come when 2 individuals enter each other's personal space and life. Life doesn't end with love confession. There is life between marriage, love and baby. There is so much more. They are skipping an entire phase of life which comes with helluva of struggles in it. It is the impetuous insertion and obliqueness of the whole track which is frustrating. The fact that they resort to such actions to cater to personal equations at the stake of the show is questionable.
Virat supporting Sai in her career and buying time for getting approvals and simultaneously planning a baby. No consideration or thoughts that if she gets pregnant her career will automatically take the hit even before it starts. Internship is very challenging and demanding. They are making it seem like a cake walk just like they have shown medical study.
Karishma & Shivani make most sense right now. One has been married the longest with a more seemingly healthy married life and the other being married at a relatively older age. Instead they bring in P to add SS and give her undue relevance in the name of favouritism. To add to more filth and cringe that she already brings in with the horrendous acting and body language with the plot and subsequent scenes.
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I’m not watching the show, but just another pointer from a clip Moor shared from today’s episode. Virat is talking about having a baby. We have watched the show and have read and understood Virat’s character. And we know he cares and supports Sai’s career. But if I leave that understanding for a bit and watch that clip, I see him as a selfish guy who is playing on both sides and playing his own lil game. He is persuading Sai by sweet talking into having a baby knowing that at this point it will hamper her career. Which means he is manipulating her, so that once she gives in and she conceives, her career will take a back seat. Slowly he can make her completely forget it once she becomes completely involved with the responsibilities. Why else would he try to cajole her for a baby when her knows she is mentally invested in establishing her career at this point and they have this big hurdle ahead to achieve it. It should be more about the conjugal part than baby making right now.