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Posted: 3 years ago
#11

Haven't read the entire post.

Starting padha

End padha

Par iska uttar dene ki hum koshish avashya karenge 😂

Humko thoda time dijiye 😄

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Posted: 3 years ago
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This is a particular shot I had loved when it was shown in the episode..

This was also when the new director came in and I mentioned that this represented the change in treatment.


Ghum Hai Kisikey Pyaar Meiin : Sai Returns to Chavan Niwas ; Burns Divorce Papers - fiction247.com


Elements of visual design

1. Composition - rule of thirds... Sai occupies a third of the total frame... the object you intend to give importance should get a prominent space.

2. Emphasis and movement - At first glance for the viewer, the focus is on V since he is in centre of the frame and in focus while the ladies are blurred ... but he is looking towards Sai.. so automatically a viewer looks at her. Kind off through his eyes

3. Proportion - V - Sai are almost of same height but because he is in background, he looks smaller... which at that point in story he was ...because he was wrong. Pakhi is shorter and has to raise her head to look at Sai whereas Sai is looking down on her. Symbolically it represents Sai is superior

4. Pattern - the fabrics in the back are similar in shade to Sai's saree.. emphasizing her more.

5. Contrast - V is in contrast colour to Sai and standing out which he was then in the story.


And then there is an another interesting element of fire...

The fire is burning near Pakhi as if symbolically she herself is burning which she was in the episode. Her hand is placed such that it feels she is indeed burning physically.


On the outset, it may look like V is an outsider to this equation, but him placed in centre means he is the pivot on which the other two hang... but his focus is only on one side.

So even though, at this point in story, SaiRat are at bad terms... eventually they will come together.

Also, this story is now more of Sai and Virat and not just Virat

Cross refer it to the show title montage where V is in centre but looking ahead while the ladies are looking at him... sort of dependent on him... here he is dependent on Sai.


There are lot of other factors but this is the gist.

Hope this explains what I meant and its not high funda nonsense. 😆

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Posted: 3 years ago
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I find them fail to deliver in good Sairat monents coz they are so busy capturing toxic people in background. Karna hi hai toh positive/happy ko karo. I get really annoyed by the camer panning to pps face every time a good Sairat scene happens. Whats the point of that?!. Thats why I like it when they give us scenes without any interference even when it has been just to argue for example. Toxic didi needs to be fired. Pathetic hai. Her face every few minutes makes me wanna throw something. And i hate how way too many scenes always have her staple constipated expression happening in the BG. Dont know whose idea that is.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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You think too highly of them 😭😭😭

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Posted: 3 years ago
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It is not what I think of ghum in particular but wanted to know about how an episode is designed..

Ghum is an example because I am discussing it here and its easy for people to relate if I have questions about a certain scene/character/event.


As I mentioned, it is not about the story but how that written story is translated to visual story

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Moor278

It is not what I think of ghum in particular but wanted to know about how an episode is designed..

Ghum is an example because I am discussing it here and its easy for people to relate if I have questions about a certain scene/character/event.


As I mentioned, it is not about the story but how that written story is translated to visual story

Ha ok but Ghum isn't all that I feel. It's one of the worst making show ever... The things you write it applies for beautifully crafted shows like Kuch Rang, Story 9 months Ki etc... IMO.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Story writer and screen pe dialogues are written by different teams. The director visualises the scenes and Dop gives life to the visualisation.

I have no jyada knowledge about this but will ask a few friends I know

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Posted: 3 years ago
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You have got it perfectly.

This is how a scene is analysed.

V in centre with his injured hand (cant reach out to Sai) incidently she is standing on the same side as the injured hand. He is gonna speak with his glance.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Thank you...

Like I said building design also works on the same principles.


Right from how you approach the building on the site, the angles from where it can be viewed and therefore how it may look...and then the scale/proportions, colour combination etc.

It's how it is perceived by the user...


Usability is a different aspect. It is arrangement of spaces within the building. Some architects give importance to form (outer structure) while some to function (space design).

It is obviously difficult to create a balance of both.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Moor278

Thank you for explaining this...

This is what I wanted to know...


Ofcourse it is a creative process and takes various individuals... so yeah getting everything correct every single time must be difficult.


Another question...

How is the track fleshed out? I mean, is everything written in advance or some of it and depending upon the response it is detailed further?

For example, there was the diya bujhoaing earlier, then the sangeet had lot of reference to diya and it came back again today when Sai said that I have kept it lighted...


So this surely looks like planned and not random addition.... but are these minor details also planned or just a broad outline for a track?


Hey Moor,


Have read some of your reviews, excellent thought process and beautiful portrayal of words. Your mind is very creative hence you intercept scenes with a different view at times.


A broader track is always defined, for instance they know what would be the next track the episodes scenes are designed later.

So Sangeet was a broader track, and the scenes the references are built around it and mainly comes with the screen play.

Most of the scenes are planned but some can be impromptu as its also the presence of mind. But these are smaller changes in the scene, dialogues or improvisation by the actor or director. Mainly the director.

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