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Posted: 3 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: vaidharbhi95


Yes, Priya fell weak and succumbed to Ram's charm and physical advances at that moment and that is still ok , what is not ok is there are a lot of things that need to be clarified .. There are some tough questions that need to be asked , and if that doesn't happen it is a compromise with self-respect .. the fact that Priya says she wants this marriage to work whilst still having this apprehension that Ram can end up like MS is a huge compromise on her self respect and integrity.

The real test of self-respect is this exact time . All this while Priya was not in love , so it was easy to choose self-respect. The real test of self-respect comes when love and emotions try to over power you , and that's when I think women should stand tall and let the man know that you can't get away with this easily ..



At the end of the day, the episode gave me sexist vibes.

Ram kissed Priya and proved that she is different , she is special to him.

But he still owes an explanation to Priya as to why his ex girlfriend was clinging on to him so indecently. We as audience know the turn of events that led to the hug, Priya does not, and the state in which she saw them was clumsy.


Ek tarfa gullu gullu is not acceptable 😂

I would reiterate the same thing , that had Ram or any member of KM witnessed Priya's ex boyfriend hugging her so intimately hell would have broken loose. I don't think Priya would have the liberty and permission to kiss Ram and explain which relationship means what . Even Priya's explanation that it is the ex- who time and again zabardasti clings on without her consent would not have worked for KM, would not have worked for Ram, would not have worked for society. The fact of the matter remains that men do get away with things like this without being held accountable, the fact that Ram looked through Priya during the birthday party, publicly ignored her , danced with his ex with the wife right infront , wife's family right infront , this exact guts is what angers me .


If hypothetically, Priya breaks up with Ram today giving the reason that he is still into Vedika every single guest and friend of Ram invited in that birthday party will easily believe it.


The kiss is just a small step , beginning of an assurance that Ram is indeed romantically interested in her , but it cannot be the end of this issue. There are several underlying important questions that cannot be wrapped behind this kiss.

Priya needs to ask Ram


1) Ok, so if you are interested only in me and are so clear about being over from your past, what made you hide the truth about Vedika ?? Even when I categorically asked you " Aap aur Vedika kitne kareeb hai ?"

you could have told the truth .


( Priya should fight for her self-respect. Let Ram give his explanation that he was scared of loosing her , Priya should know that he is scared of loosing her , he loves her to that extent . Priya's pov she didn't want to know, but what is Ram's pov for hiding the truth, was it not important enough or he had malicious intentions ?? Priya needs to get this doubt off her system. She needs more insight into his abandonment issues )

2) Why did you dance with your ex , when you can't even stand the thought of me and Neeraj being in the same room?


3) I saw messages on your mobile and even my sister confirmed the same, that Vedika wants to get back to you . So did you know about her intensions ?? If yes , then from how long ? Why did you hide her intensions from me?? How can you allow your ex to message you , discuss with u about second chances behind my back?


( Priya always found Vedika weird, but even in her wildest dreams she would have never imagined that she is the ex Ram talked about, and added to it she even intends to rekindle her romance with Ram. After all that Vedika did to Akki, Priya was kind and generous enough to let her stay, take her to doctor, gave her moral strength to fight against domestic violence . Vedika exploited her goodness and this is another dhokka added to her list of betrayals.)



4) Every time Vedika screamed , " It's about you and me , I am possessive about you etc etc why didn't you stop her from saying such words??



Since Ram showed absolutely no guilt about the office hug with Vedika, and was so confident about his intensions, Priya needs to sit and introspect that even if Ram and his intensions are pure, will she be ok to see Vedika clinging on to him like this yet another time. The liberties and authority with which Vedika touches Ram , isn't it insulting towards her marriage ?


How comfortable is Priya with this kind of dynamics between Ram and Vedika , as a wife what are the boundaries that she would want Ram to exhibit ?


Leaving all these important questions behind, wrapping it all under a kiss , is not subtle writing, it is clearly a case of lazy inconsistent writing.


It is Priya's duty to protect her self-respect, her integrity by holding Ram accountable, asking him tough questions, discussing about those messages and waiting for his answers. By saying main kissi ke messages nahi padti, mujhe nahi janna , even at this crucial juncture, will do no good.

Another misunderstanding , then her insecurities will creep up again. So, how long can she run away from it?


Before the accident track begins , if we still don't get a scene where Priya asks the right questions and waits for his answers , confronts all her apprehensions , insecurities , fights her inner demons and takes it out of her system ( Screaming on mouse doesn't work 😂 ) I will forever remain salty that one of the most important tracks of BALH2, Ram-Vedika truth reveal and how Priya and Ram deal with it has not been written and executed rightfully.


You half the frustration i have is if they were never going to give it a right closure which Ram and vedika track deserved then why did they dragged this track for 4 months and not give a 4 min decent conversation among leads on this topic Clearly all their doubts.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: RitikaS99

You half the frustration i have is if they were never going to give it a right closure which Ram and vedika track deserved then why did they dragged this track for 4 months and not give a 4 min decent conversation among leads on this topic Clearly all their doubts.

They love wasting and stretching episodes like chewing gum ..

I think they just wanted to drag the show till around 200 episodes , make some money and call it wraps ..

Out of all the sony tv shows I have watched , Ram and Priya are my favorite characters , but the quality of this show overall in terms of writing , continuity , research work etc is terrible ..

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Posted: 3 years ago
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@vaidharbhi95, you don't have to sell the unacceptable elements of Ram's behaviour to me. Even what I saw (only BTS), was hell annoying. Stupidity is no excuse for anything; fear is, maybe, to an extent, but I totally agree that keeping V there without telling the wife she was his ex was disrespectful to the nth degree, especially considering all that went on.

I'd love to see Ram brought to realise his monumental mistake far more harshly. But I think that holi day thing was it. That's all we'll get.

I also agree about patriarchal mindsets and how Priya would not have got the same leeway or even 5% of the leeway Mr. Kapoor got. Leave alone leeway, he has a whole cheerleader team out to help and support him, including Priya's family.

My point was not that. My first reaction was the same as yours, even as I realised it ain't happening. Which led me to think why Priya "should" act any particular way to remain true to her character. Everyone does things out of character at times. What matters is if it makes sense to them. Isn't it because Priya's not a run-of-the-mill fl that a section of the audience is so invested in seeing Justice for Priya? That some element of living vicariously arises from that?

Priya has already decided or she wouldn't have allowed even so much--heck, she'd have jumped out of the auto. I re-watched, and it's clear from the after almost-arrest scene that she has accepted he's devoted to her. She trusts him re V, though, for the life of me I can't see how, and why she doesn't shake him like a rat and demand answers. And yes, in real life, something like this left unresolved and unclarified would cause endless pain. It may here, too.

Given that, I don't see Priya as less strong, less self-respecting, or less anything. I can disagree with what she's doing, but it's not a deal breaker for me.

(I blame Sara, though. I blame her for everything.🤣)

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: vaidharbhi95

They love wasting and stretching episodes like chewing gum ..

I think they just wanted to drag the show till around 200 episodes , make some money and call it wraps ..

Out of all the sony tv shows I have watched , Ram and Priya are my favorite characters , but the quality of this show overall in terms of writing , continuity , research work etc is terrible ..

And this is nowhere near as bad it gets.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Balh2fan

This is my summary after reading all the posts related to the treatment of the current track…

1. They start well with the tracks but closures are pathetic

2. The execution has been miserable, to the point that they did not even refer to the character sketches to plan their reactions or interactions before they showed relationship progression

3. They seem to be in a rush, I get a feel that plan to wrap up, else I see no justification rushing up such an important track.

Always, always. I can't remember a serial I watched in its entirety. Lazy, pathetic writing, ignoring important social aspects, cheap tricks for trp gain, and no proper winding up of tracks.

Daily soap pressure s are half the problem. The other half is an audience which is too easily placated by lollipops.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Balh2fan


You have put it so beautifully, we judge others a lot unnecessarily or unwarranted and mostly it is unconscious bias. She has every right to feel the way she does or feel as she does, she can fall for the guy and not seek explanations and still be strong…

I loved her reaction to the kiss, unapologetic, no embarrassment, but she accepted it gracefully and as her right as a wife to feel that romantic gesture from her husband, in that one step she moved forward in her relations by leaps and bounds.


I loved the way she felt the need to be loved by the one she loves… that moment was so soft and feathery… ❤️

thanks for changing my perspective in being rigid when accepting others only if they act the way I would expect them to 😊


And this is what I was trying to convey.

Thanks for getting it.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mangs1303

@vaidharbhi95, you don't have to sell the unacceptable elements of Ram's behaviour to me. Even what I saw (only BTS), was hell annoying. Stupidity is no excuse for anything; fear is, maybe, to an extent, but I totally agree that keeping V there without telling the wife she was his ex was disrespectful to the nth degree, especially considering all that went on.

I'd love to see Ram brought to realise his monumental mistake far more harshly. But I think that holi day thing was it. That's all we'll get.

I also agree about patriarchal mindsets and how Priya would not have got the same leeway or even 5% of the leeway Mr. Kapoor got. Leave alone leeway, he has a whole cheerleader team out to help and support him, including Priya's family.

My point was not that. My first reaction was the same as yours, even as I realised it ain't happening. Which led me to think why Priya "should" act any particular way to remain true to her character. Everyone does things out of character at times. What matters is if it makes sense to them. Isn't it because Priya's not a run-of-the-mill fl that a section of the audience is so invested in seeing Justice for Priya? That some element of living vicariously arises from that?

Priya has already decided or she wouldn't have allowed even so much--heck, she'd have jumped out of the auto. I re-watched, and it's clear from the after almost-arrest scene that she has accepted he's devoted to her. She trusts him re V, though, for the life of me I can't see how, and why she doesn't shake him like a rat and demand answers. And yes, in real life, something like this left unresolved and unclarified would cause endless pain. It may here, too.

Given that, I don't see Priya as less strong, less self-respecting, or less anything. I can disagree with what she's doing, but it's not a deal breaker for me.

(I blame Sara, though. I blame her for everything.🤣)

I am not selling anything to you 😂

Just bringing out the point that makers did not do justice to the track, tough questions were supposed to be asked to Ram and it did not happen .. It's an opportunity lost after months dedicated to Vedika.., opportunity lost to hold him accountable for a lot of things, opportunity lost for Priya to confront him about every single flashback scene where his behavior around Vedika hurt her..


Coming back to Priya , the line I still want this marriage to work even if you end up like MS doesn't work well with me . The exact thing she fought against her entire life , is what she is ready to accept , doesn't go well with me ..

If you have even an iota of doubt about Ram's character , that he can end up like MS , can reject you and leave you, this blind trust makes no sense and it is a compromise with self respect for me , and if she has chosen to trust him without seeking for answers , then I hope she doesn't go back to all men r the same, next time an issue crops up..

Have elaborated more about it in EDT , you can give it a read if you want to

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bana

If the husband is devoted to the wife and innocent and doesn’t look at other women, should the wife be ok with his female friends disrespecting her openly, possessively laying claims to his time & attention while he remains silent, and should shd be ok with the husband lying to her for them, using them to get back at her when he is miffed?


This kind of mature marriage is new to me.


Absolutely not. I hold no brief for Ram. He can be as cute as he likes, I'm no Sara. Personally, I'd like Priya to cut him to bits, metaphorically.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: vaidharbhi95

I am not selling anything to you 😂

Just bringing out the point that makers did not do justice to the track, tough questions were supposed to be asked to Ram and it did not happen .. It's an opportunity lost after months dedicated to Vedika.., opportunity lost to hold him accountable for a lot of things, opportunity lost for Priya to confront him about every single flashback scene where his behavior around Vedika hurt her..


Coming back to Priya , the line I still want this marriage to work even if you end up like MS doesn't work well with me . The exact thing she fought against her entire life , is what she is ready to accept , doesn't go well with me ..

If you have even an iota of doubt about Ram's character , that he can end up like MS , can reject you and leave you, this blind trust makes no sense and it is a compromise with self respect for me , and if she has chosen to trust him without seeking for answers , then I hope she doesn't go back to all men r the same, next time an issue crops up..

Have elaborated more about it in EDT , you can give it a read if you want to

Where did you get @ bold? Did I miss something? As I understood it, that was her fear. For some unexplained reason, she decided it was invalid.

Probably Sara's nonsense.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mangs1303

Where did you get @ bold? Did I miss something? As I understood it, that was her fear. For some unexplained reason, she decided it was invalid.

Probably Sara's nonsense.

Their room scene after the drunk night ..

She says this and leaves the room

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