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Posted: 4 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Shaome

Yes that's why that mindless copy pasting doesn't work in case of Ghum.. It looks so out of place..

Virat is already shown dying to have a baby with Sai and also wants a girl..how it's going to make sense the next Shruti track..

Initially they started off with some creativity... Virat consoling Sai after they had a fights and talking sahas about Sai.. If I'm not wrong he was less wooden than rono..

The whole premises of KD was to show that one has to bow down in a marriage and that's Emon.. So fans accepted that realistic kind of approach..Tgere were more passion and angsty in their love...

Hindi audience are different they didn't keep it mind while copy pasting everything.. Even though most of the heroes are shown quite dominant towards their partner.. Major missing in Ghum is that angst and passion which almost all Hindi shows have it... Raman kumar bhallla was one such selfish character on Hindi television.. If they want make virat like him makers should bring that passion he had for his wife..


Ronno & Imon's intimacy was on whole different level after confession. That's not happening here for sure and some are expecting RuSha type scenes for SaiRat on twitter 🤣 I don't think his wife would allow him to do such scenes with anyone anywhere even if she's not present or part of that project 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: mysticriver


The hug one is worse than the lifting Pakhi publicly cud the former still can be reasoned out but not this, he doesn't even show any reaction or discomfort instead patting her to not cry after the confession was like "arey" & I'm sure he'd try protecting Shruti's honour infront of Sada, try justifying the whole thing. He'd have no introspection, I doubt he'd maintain boundaries with Shruti even after this. I seriously dunno what makers are getting by doing this to an already degraded character.




Btw idk if this is a good thing or not by bringing back the Shruti track this early but ever since the track started there was hardly any bliss, happiness in Imon's life in KD baring few tracks. It was the longest most exhuasting track with no head or tail. Plus it took away half the time of remaining time of the show. In Ghum they'll get to show more happy moments I guess after finishing up this depressing track. Show will have more good moments than KD had over-all. Idk if you're getting what I'm saying.

I don’t think so.. the writer of KD .. Leena Gangopadhyay is a veteran .. she knows how the story will flow .. Rono never wavers .. and gradually his mistakes become more


from the start.

Initial part of wedding ..he used to say sorry

First he did not give her food .. got her food said sorry

Next step threw her out of house

Next step calked her characterless she committed suicide

Then emotionally tortured her she got an accident



So mentally broke her down


But in all this period he says sorry and tried making up to her .. even though she did


After consummation it’s a different trip ., he now owns emon .. the trust n belief is there because emon herself bragged during pakhi pregnancy track that how great my husband is .. he is a living god cannot waver .. from his morality ..

So in the shruti track even though he does not cheat he is unforgivably cruel to his wife and has no remorse . After knowing she’s pregnant .. he still does not have any pity or remorse for his wife . Still she forgives him ..


and literally weeps in tears at the first time he relents to make up with her .. so Emon was shown very real .. as very attached to her husband . After her father , only Rono was there in her life ..

After her childbirth she starts developing a spine .. but the moment shruti dies she brushes everything under the carpet and starts worrying about his food … and sleeping .. the problem was not emon .. everyone around her ( except pulkit ) influenced her to think Rono is some God . Who can only sleep with emon .. he will never have physical relationship with any woman .. though emotional relationships are also there and they are painful never reflected upon



I am not sure that writers of Ghum are so mature .. who can weave a story like this .,




Edited by msin - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#23

My POV on all this.

1. Sai is emotionally alone. After Aaba, she had given that place to V. Even said so in MiMo track. So right now her pain is more because she feels he broke her trust.

2. She doesn't have anyone on her side properly like V is. Ashwini supports her no matter what but she herself is the weak member of the CN household. Her words don't have that weight. Sammy is her big supporter but he is biased to PP. The only person right now who is fully with Sai and probably the only saner voice is Pulkit. But he is not a Chavan. So again no one except V.

3. Sai knew of the V-PP dynamic, accepted it, fought her way through it. She knows V hasn't crossed physical boundary with PP.. which she mentioned to Sammy. So even though her position is only as a zimmedari, V had till then maintained the sanctity of marriage. He never even crossed that boundary with her. And TBH that WAS a good thing about him till then. In mimo she understood that PP is no more in picture.

4. Right now however, she has been bombarded with her own feelings and just when she was about to take a step forward, this has happened. Her heartbreak is more because she was ready, V was ready (she understood that). I was of the view that her staying in CN would be a good idea. I still feel the same but only because i don't want her to live alone. In this track, her pain is precisely this, she doesn't want to believe that V will do something like this. Her repeatedly saying V loves Shruti and asking him to clarify is her way of convincing herself that it is true.

Also, her hurt and that imaginary conversation was not i totally agree with but it is also true that for the past 2 years even though there were all sorts of things done to her, it was still a marriage and in mimo track Kaku accepted it fully by asking her for Chirag.


Hence, her feeling betrayed due to all the above reasons and not being able to forget V so easily is justified.


The whole issue here is the timing of the track and V's behaviour. Had he shown some hesitation, some regret i would still have accepted it.

The timing is messed up and so comparing it with KD is not logical. In KD emon was pregnant, they HAD a 3-4 year old relationship. She definitely had that haq. Her position as wife was clear. Here it is not. Hence the divorce case would make no sense. Also Emon being with a child made her vulnerable, if she went all the way to have a child with him, surely she is attached to him. Many of you will not agree to this, but that's how society is. Once there is a child in picture, everyone will ask you to compromise. Heck, people ask couples to bear a child even in a abusive relationship as if bacchha hone se sab thik ho jayega. All it does is it makes sure that the woman is tied up permanently. But ITV will not dare to show a woman raising a child alone. Certainly not ghum.

Similarly, Sai knowing about Sada being a naxal is a spanner in the works. Because when she knows that Shruti is Sadas wife, she would curse herself for not trusting V. But more importantly if the makers conveniently forget that V had told Sai everything about Sada then him supporting a naxal would not be digestible to her. In which case, 'deshdroha' ka case sounds plausible. But why should Sai file it is a question. If it is the Sai we know, she will blast him right, left and centre for supporting a criminal and being someone for whom Aaba died.

Also, Sai in this track has been totally understanding of Shruti and Saahas's wellbeing. Her making sure that Shruti gets proper medical treatment and her asking the family to accept them is because of her selfless attitude. But now when she will know that it is not V's baby, she will curse herself but she will understand why V did what he did.


Sais conflict after this truth comes out will be something to see. And Ayesha will nail it but the dialogues would matter so much. Going by her character arc I think that she will apologize for not trusting him enough but I hope she will not forgive him for supporting a criminal.


I don't know how the makers are planning to make V become mahaan, get a medal and so on. And more importantly how they will bring about the romance back.

Someone mentioned Raman Bhalla. He was a pathetic character but his pining for Ishita was something to see. That angst was there and KP emoted it well. I don't know if Neil can pull off it off.


If there's an award for Mahaanta it should be given to Sai though.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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After consummation it’s a different trip ., he now owns emon .. the trust n belief is there because emon herself bragged during pakhi pregnancy track


So going by this logic, V should have been repenting more, his regret and hurt should be through the roof.

Lekin Ghum wala V to iska opposite hai ekdum.

He is at his worst behaviour right now



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Posted: 4 years ago
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Virat is an idiot .. Rono was a prig .. he always knew how to control emon .. .. during shruti track he was more angry that his wife is not trusting him .. his wife should understand he has principles bla bla bla ..

so even when emon said sorry .. he wanted her to cry further .. dwell in pain for hurting him . Even after the truth came out in shruti track they did not make up . For 2-3months Rono kept on hurting emon .. not willing to go back to her because she did not believe in him ..

I don’t think virat has that right on Sai .. and have Sai n virat walked that time in their relationship to Kiss n make up

Edited by msin - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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So V will do the same. By copypaste


But he hasn't even said I love you to her.. phir kya logic hai

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Moor278

So V will do the same. By copypaste


But he hasn't even said I love you to her.. phir kya logic hai

Wohi toh .. Rono ka anger was his wife did not believe in him.. she can hurt me in front of others .

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