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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

That was harassment whether the actors agree or not. Can't say sexual harrasment but it was mental harassment. Going behind the man despite him saying I don't love you is harassment. Here the problem is virat behaviour with woman. How casually he crosses his limits with other woman be it pakhi or shruti. What actors or director thinking before enacting script is beyond understanding. Till now I was thinking his behaviour(crossing limits) with pakhi is because of the past they shared. But after seeing his behaviour with shruti. I am confused. How can he be so causual with the woman whom he hardly knows.

How was it in KD? That's what we need to compare with.

How was Rono's behaviour with RK? Did he maintain his boundaries?

Did RK's interest in Rono come across as mental harassment too?

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

How was it in KD? That's what we need to compare with.

How was Rono's behaviour with RK? Did he maintain his boundaries?

Did RK's interest in Rono come across as mental harassment too?

Rk and rono has zero physical touch scenes. In cafe scene he places his hand slightly on rk hand to console her unlike virat who consoled with two hands, in hospital he holds rk hand,only one hand and that doesn't look weird unlike virat who holded pakhi's two hands and cries by placing his head on her hands. Another scene before fake pregnancy he holds rk hand when she pretends to be on death bed that too when she herself initiates the hand holding. They had intimate scenes like feeding food, lifting only after badshah death scenes that too it was done out of sympathy by rono. He lifts her when she looses her consciousness by committing suicide. Whatever hand hold scenes rk and rono had, it served some purpose. Like cafe hand hold scene was for emon to see, hospital hand hold was for badshah (samrat) to see. Story demanded those hand holds. But here there are many random hand hold scenes of virat pakhi mostly initiated by virat. What purpose does the scene virat whispering pakhi by holding her hands served, what purpose does the scene virat holding pakhi hand while hugging sai served, that lift scene also unnecessary to the core. To show sai trust there are many other ways. If it was to show sai trust they would have a given a dialogue to virat thanking sai for trusting him, nothing such happened. Instead it came out like showing virat's trust on pakhi the way he defended her when sai tried to talk sense to him. In fake pregnancy track leena didn't showed any intimate scenes of rk,rono to make badshah doubt or to show emon trust.
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Exactly my complaint too. A lot of times, Sai isn't even there to misunderstand him (during hand-holding scenes) - with Pakhi as well as now with Shruthi. Serves no purpose except to confuse the audience. The contrast between Leena's and ghum writer's intelligence is clear.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Exactly my complaint too. A lot of times, Sai isn't even there to misunderstand him (during hand-holding scenes) - with Pakhi as well as now with Shruthi. Serves no purpose except to confuse the audience. The contrast between Leena's and ghum writer's intelligence is clear.

I am already cringing by thinking about virat shruti scenes. If they had 10 scenes then 8 out of 10 scenes has hand holding ones be it him helping her to walk, holding her hand to assure by giving soft looks, holding hand to share happiness,shruti holding his hand during her delivery. I mean in any emotion holding hands is important. Kd shruti also pregnant, she also had delivery but rono shruti never had hand holding scenes. Their relationship was formal from rono addressing her as aap to maintaining physical boundaries. The relationship should be formal too because who will behave like shruti virat who met each other just 2-3 days before.
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Posted: 3 years ago
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If the actor playing Virat cannot show the difference between his feelings for Sai n his feelings for Shruti through his expressions and body language, then thats a massive failure on both his part n the makers.

I dont know if the character gets validation from playing saviour to women in difficult situations. He seems to love that "acknowledgement", wants to feel "needed". But makers are definitely going overboard in terms of the cringe elements. Most of us already think virat is an idiot for his actions but watching scenes of Virat Shruti handholding n his tenderness as if he is really her husband is not needed- it is definitely making him come across as a guy who doesn't know any physical boundaries. Idiot toh pehle sa tha, all this over-familiar behavior, playing "friend" to his vahinis amd prioritizing them over his own marriage- all this makes him utterly insensitive. And in Sai's eyes right now- even immoral- because she is hearing that he spent the night with a wonan in the hotel n referred to her as his wife.

They already made the same mistake with pp-virat scenes and got backlash. Yet they haven't learned their lesson.

In the Sairat scene recently- when Virat reveals to Sai that he came to the award function but he didnt come forward because of her words, when he says I wanted to be there to see you get the award, hear the applause for you... her eyes soften immediately. She doesn't say anything but she has a tenderness in her eyes.its temporary but its noticeable. Momentary fleeting 2 secs of happiness that "her" Virat Sir did come to the function, but i think once she registers how he came as an obligation- took "takleef" to be there and despite being there, hearing her- he couldn't understand how sad she was and how much she missed him- she immediately hardens up again. Even Ninad could read Sai but Virat didnt!

Whereas Virat gave no reaction to Sai when she tells him that I didn't even want to go to the function because you were not going to be there. I was hoping for 2 secs of the same softening/tenderness that Sai had shown before he masked it. He didn't react when she emotionally asks him- main aapko nazar bhi aati hoon.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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The most cringe part in virat sruthi scenes are virat looking at sruthi baby bump while talking about saas /sahas. It was not needed. The soft looks and sayng to sruthi he never feel she is burden to him.

The same man saying he took takleef to attend her function.

Vth sada he mentioned bhabhi, first time he met sruthi he mentioned thum.so he did nt have any respect to an unknown woman.

Doctor nurse hotel staff no one doubted virat nd sruthi are husband nd wifes in real. He acted that much no discomfort no guilt nothing.

But he z expecting sai shud understand him. The way he accused sai in yesterday episode am feeling to give a tight slap on his face

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Posted: 3 years ago
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This track is a failure in terms of writing, acting and finally approval on part of the channel.

The character is ruined to the core, the actor cannot express properly and the channel doesn't even care to have a look at the final episode before telecast. 😔


Going forward I think they should bring the fake pregnancy track. Vo bhi karlo. And if the writers have some sense they can maybe finally redeem Virats character when he realises how far PP can fall. That is if they want SaiRat as endgame.


And in the meantime, keep Sai away from CN. Safe in a hostel. Completing her studies 🤞🏻🤞🏻

Edited by Moor278 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: xfiles

The way Virat’s character has been presented by the writers, average viewers will have to understand him as either ek number ka Idiot who has no brains(dont ask how he became IPS) or itna shaathir dimaag ka chaalaak insaan who is a first class manipulator . It is one of the two , there is no in between. The flaw is in the writing. Maybe they intended to make him a grey character but due to their really bad writing, ye nateeja hua. No wonder there is always Virat vs Sai fights on Twitter

They had the opportunity but they blew it. Its now next to impossible to tie his greyness back to the story. Thats why as a viewer- Even though I understand all this, I still want Sai to walk out of his life with her head held high. Thats how bad they have slaughtered Virat and Ghum . Thank god Sai is still not that badly damaged. But fingers crossed! U never know what these writers can do

Virat definitely is too dumb, and morally incorrect that he doesn't understand the boundaries. He also comes across as an emotional manipulator because we have seen him always crying and with tears as a part of redemption but what happens after a month or two is the repeat of the same cycle of abuse/ low-key cheating. His tears worked only in lunch kaand and maybe after ousting but post that, I doubt.

Sai may look inconsistent but atleast her reactions to a situation have solid reasons, she overreacted in the anniversary but she had solid reasons for that but the way Virat is behaving, especially in this track, has a very flimsy base.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: anuprem

It is really sad at the way they have butchered Virats character. He could have very well addressed Sruthi as Bhabhi and helped her. I don't know what is stopping him from using the word Vahini for Pakhi and Sruthi. This hesitation only gives ideas to the other two ladies and as you said Virat doing so much for his friend with whom he had no contact for many years and who is also an outlaw is ridiculous.

Virat is mixing emotions with his profession which is entirely wrong and he is not fit to be an IPS officer. An IPS officer cannot be so emotional.

I am wondering how will they show confession now. What will make Sai to confess after all this?

Bhabhi is like an alien word for Virat...it seems like something bad will happen to him if he addresses someone as bhabhi...I want to see some real bhabhi devar relationship in the show for Virat and not a zimmedaari or vaada wali bhabhi.

The friend who turned antisocial, he told sai in one of the scenes that in college, he would have tried to correct him but it's too late and he would try to nab him as a part of his duty...he kills him, then what? Himself becomes anti social...🤡

I don't want a confession from Sai, atleast till the time he shows some real repentance..right now he is in the mode that I am mahaan, I am right and Sai would feel proud seeing saahas...she may feel proud that he saved a kid and an abla naari but will she on knowing that he betrayed his nation...that too using her identity😔

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

In my opinion, what Virat is having with Shruthi as of now is not an emotional affair.

I agree that emotional affair can be unintentional - you need not intend to cheat your spouse, need not intend to have an emotional affair with someone, need to even be aware that you're crossing the line. But there is certainly a conscious/sub-conscious emotional motivation behind seeking someone other than the spouse. The motivation may be either some sort of validation, emotional fulfillment, companionship or emotional support. In this particular track - none of these checks Virat's motivations. Whether one agrees with him or not - he is acting out of his guilt and not that he is seeking her for anything else.

His relationship with Pakhi - that's a whole new debate, so I'll stick with Shruthi for now.

There are issues in his behaviour with Shruthi - namely posing himself as her husband, and acting too familiar with her (not addressing her as he should and holding her hand etc). For the first, they have given some unconvincing explanation of hiding her identity. For the second, the kind of impression that Virat gives to the audience may be totally unintentional - in that case, all I can say is that anyone who is responsible for this kind of creativity needs to be fired (just a figure of speech, not meant literally).

I've cribbed and ranted using these details long enough - and realised that it has no meaning in ghum. The makers have absolutely zero sense or care about how the execution of certain scenes creates an impression about a character - it doesn't matter what vision they have in their mind.

I myself do not think he is having an emotional affair with Shruthi - because I choose to set aside their stupid ass writing and creativity. I'm going purely by Virat's motivations.

I mentioned and know it that he is acting out of guilt and has no motivation of having emotional affair with Shruti but for how long can we excuse his actions by thinking about his intentions, same happened with Pakhi... everyone felt that he is doing it out of guilt but he is certainly keeping both of them above his spouse, he is certainly sharing something with them which is exclusive to them and Sai doesn't know about it at all. How would he feel if Sai behaved in the same way with aniket, Ajinkya, or someone else, even if it was for a thing not related to Virat, maybe related to college activities but they had their own secret, and that cause suspicion in Virat's mind. Here whatever he is sharing with the other two is directly related to Sai and her status.

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