ZMGA Episode Discussion Thread 2 - Page 44

Originally posted by: Anindita91

Yes, that is there. But honestly I would have sympathized with Nimmo if it was only a mental issue because of losing her child minus the selfishness.

@b - I understand her pain, the pain of losing Karan but I dislike the fact that she discriminates between her children. That is extremely unhealthy for the other kids. Plus Nimmo doesn't seem to care about Amrita that much considering she said in today's episode that Amrita can go after marriage but she will have to leave Ansh behind. She said something like that in earlier episodes too.

Nimmo - main bhi toh yahi keh rahi hoon, abhi Ansh ko Amrita ki zaroorat hai, ekbar Ansh thora bada ho jaye, uske baad jisse chahe shaadi kara dijiyega Amrita ki.

Guneet – aur Ansh?

Nimmo – Ansh mera hai Guneet ji

These were her exact words. The fact that being a mother herself she can even think of distancing Amrita from Ansh makes me cringe. 😵

I have been skipping the episodes for this reason. I can't handle toxicity in shows. Life me kya kam negetivity hai jo TV pe bhi wahi dekhu?

@b + @i - This is definitely true. In fact today Kabir also said the same thing. She definitely needs a doctor. But he also mentioned "har kisise badle mein unhe kuch na kuch chahiye, arre maine tumhe pala hai isse din ke liye.." (continued)

@b + @UL - I so wish dear the makers show this properly and doesn't turn her into a villain and her actions make her kids dislike/disrespect her or something, especially Amrita.

The Sakhuja family needs to make her understand the right approach for things, especially the makers should stop emphasizing that Ansh is Karan, which is not. Most importantly Ansh is not a property which Nimmo always claim

I so wish makers properly show the mental issue factor if they are trying to show it without totally destroying the character Nimmo in the process and her dynamics with the family 💔

Ani - What I am trying to say is her love is very unhealthy for the people around. If a mother loves their kids having selfish intentions, discriminating between her children, it becomes very much difficult for the kids to grow properly and in a healthy manner and that is a very wrong approach of parenting

Totally agree with you. We live in a society where mothers are considered gods and can never be wrong but it's not true, every individual has some good and bad traits. Nimmo loves her kid - Karan - to an extent where she is ready to forget about all her other kids and treats them like trash, like they don't even matter.

I guess since the show was all good, happy characters wala, they needed someone to spice things up and Nimmo became the scapegoat character. They've butchered her. They did her read bad. No cap.

Let's see how they go about it.

Originally posted by: myselfriya

- True that completely. Once again this is so me @Neha. This is what I have always wanted to express regarding Nimmo's character yet never really could do it properly because some people intervene unnecessarily and start unwanted arguments.

- You have written each and every feeling of mine about Nimmo's character very aptly and frankly that shows how "mature" your thinking is. I don't know if it is true yet I have always felt that you are an awesome personality in real life.

Thank you so much dear!! 🤗 I am almost the same of my online personality, sometimes more open here than in person. ❤️

Well, I can't say anything because I have always trusted and thought many people to be really good individuals but later on they turn out be devils in disguise. Anyhow that's not the matter here.

- Imo, you are absolutely correct regarding Nimmo. I stopped watching the show a few days back yet I used to read what people say here whenever I got time to come here and mostly came to this thread to watch the clips which people posted.

- I don't say anything because I don't watch the show currently yet from the all the episodes I have watched.

- I have been observing Nimmo's character from the beginning of the show and in the beginning I never found her to be a "psychopathic woman". Imo she was just being a "realistic strict mother".

- I found her quite really "annoying and psychopathic" in the episode where she went inside the room with Ansh and locked the doors yet imo atleast she "apologized" which I found to be a bit "realistic" because atleast she accepted that she was "wrong".

- Yet I never found Nimmo to be "psychopatic" in the first episodes and not at all the way the so called "Kabir fans" in twitter claim her to be.

- I mean I don't really understand how come the "Kabir and Amrita fans/fandom" in twitter justify and turn blind to every mistake of these two characters but when it comes to other characters they are so quick to pass their really baseless heavy judgments.

- I feel they are equally "psychopatic" like they are calling Nimmo to be, haha.

- I mean if we see the very first episodes, I never supported Nimmo slapping, shouting or belittling Kabir.

- Yet if we remember "Kabir's birthday episode". I agree Nimmo was very wrong in shouting at him on such a special day yet later on, she was really concerned and did want him to come and cut his birthday cake.

- And that's what the real-life "reality/realism" is all about. In real life, parents berate, scold and beat the kids if they are wrong but that does not mean they don't "love" them. Yes they may have favorites like Nimmo "But which mother doesn't take pains to bring her child to the world, so can she hate that same child whom she took so much of pains to bring to this world?"

- The parents may not love all equally yet still they love all of them because it is a part of them which lives in their children. Until and unless the parents have some really bad history with respect to their children, no mother/father can hate his/her own child.

- Frankly, the way some "psycho Kabir fans" in twitter label Nimmo as a complete villain all because she is "being strict" with him is so strange. It seems these people are some "overly pampered kids" in their family who don't even know the basics of "parenting".

- Also, Kabir is neither an angel. I used to support him in the beginning until his blackmailing part but after that he is acting very "shamelessly".

- He never acknowledges his mistakes and on top of that whatever crimes he does, he does with such an attitude that he will always get away doing it and goes on ill-treating innocent people like his boss. Imo, he is acting like a "creep".

- I used to love Kabir's character because I thought he is like me but no I can't support such criminal behavior like his behavior recently turned out to be. I have flaws just like Kabir yet whatever I'm I accept it and not act criminal.

Even I haven't been watching the episodes lately, but I look at some clips.

Not gonna say about Kabir cuz not watching.

About fans... There's nothing you can really do about them.

But yeah, Nimmo, Kabir and Amrita have gotten away with things that are not okay. And they barely even apologised for it. No change in them whatsoever, and that made me loose interest in the show.

I will stay around for Pritam and his two beautiful babies! I hope we get more of him! ❤️ also refer to my above post. 😳

Originally posted by: DelusionsOfNeha

Even I haven't been watching the episodes lately, but I look at some clips.

Not gonna say about Kabir cuz not watching.

About fans... There's nothing you can really do about them.

But yeah, Nimmo, Kabir and Amrita have gotten away with things that are not okay. And they barely even apologised for it. No change in them whatsoever, and that made me loose interest in the show.

I will stay around for Pritam and his two beautiful babies! I hope we get more of him! ❤️ also refer to my above post. 😳

@bp - I will start with this one. First of all, I don't feel Nimmo is "selfish" character. It's just another of those labels given by those "double standards weirdo fans" given to her in twitter.

- Do you remember the hospital episode during delivery week? Nimmo never thought twice to choose between Ansh and Amrita and that's because she is not "selfish".

- I never found Nimmo's love to be "toxic" until that episode where she took Ansh to the room. That behaviour of Nimmo I don't support yet again even none of the family members supported it and they made her realize that was wrong for which she did "apologize" unlike "Amrita or Kabir".

- Yet yes, the CVs must be gradually butchering her character now to make her the "typical ITV MIL" so frankly there it will be the CVs who will be acting selfish being hungry for trps.

- Regarding "parenting" what I found in the earlier episodes was that Nimmo is a "strict mother" not "selfish".

- Yes she shows partiality yet again there is a "reason" for that. From all the oldie Sakhuja family members, we have heard that "Karan was an extremely ideal son".

- For a middle class family like Sakhuja, having a son like Karan was an "extreme blessing", so it's quite natural that the parents will have an "extra liking" for that son because in my personal experience I have seen this happening atleast in "75%" of the families around me during my growing up years and that was a "realistic take from the CVs".

- Having been subjected to "partiality" myself I'm not supporting that behavior of Nimmo at all because I know how it affects your childhood and the later parts of your life and I do believe that the parents shouldn't be keeping such "high expectations" from all their children yet what I'm trying to say is that it is a "realistic take given from the CVs".

- Also, I never found that Nimmo doesn't love her other children like those "weirdo Kabir fans" in twitter always claim it to be, because there always has been some instance where Nimmo's character has shown that she loves her other children too:

"Kabir as I already mentioned in his birthday episode, Angad in the episode when Meera made him to get into an accident and Soni the episode where she was going to that late-night party"

- Perhaps because I am seeing my "own mother" in Nimmo's character, I'm being quite emotional about her character. I mean yes mothers can be "strict and show partiality" yet that does not at all mean they don't "love" all their children and only love their favorite ones. They do love all their kids and it will be seen in some form or the other.

- Frankly, sometimes it is the mistake of the kids when they fail to recognize the "love" behind every "anger, scolding and beating" hidden behind their parent's reactions.

- Also, imo "love" is not something which can be expressed from outside all the time like two lovers keep saying "I love you baby...I love you baby" that's a very kiddish approach. "Love" is something which is emoted and felt because it is a very "pure" emotion.

@bg- Haha, True that, I know there can be nothing done about the so called "fans" be it of whichever show because they are nothing but "double standard psychos" in human forms which is why I always stay away from them.

- Frankly, those "double standard fans" of zmga are really "psycho" because they were comparing the fact that Nimmo played some grey character in "beyhad" so she is the same in this show. What rubbish?

- They don't even know how to analyze characters properly and they keep shouting nonsense all over twitter.

- I mean they never "appreciated" the CVs when the CVs were actually portraying "reality" and giving "realistic approach", at that time, all they did was complain about the slow pace.

- Now when the CVs have started taking the usual ITV route they are in all praises and calling that as "reality". I don't know if they even know what actually "reality" means.

- To be very honest, it is this same "psycho weirdo double-standard fans" who are misleading the CVs. Because they know whatever they keep shouting in twitter the CVs will follow at some point of time because that is what is happening in ITV in the past few years.

- Frankly, social media has helped people a lot at the same time, it is causing a lot of issues too. I wish there was someone who could stop all this.

Nimmo started out as a strict/harsh mother, who was a little OTT(just like most characters on the show.. Amrita's jasoosi, Kabir's immaturity, Kamli's behavior with Pritam etc). The partiality was always bad. She wasn't really selfish per se until I stopped watching. Her yelling at Kabir was justified because the dude needs to grow up. A little immaturity is fine but at his age.. it isn't amusing and one needs to learn to respect other people as well. I haven't seen much post Kabir getting the job so idk if he has grown.

From the clips I've seen Nimmo has become extreme(selfish idk?) in the past few episodes. Starting from her outburst over where will Amrita go. Whether that was a realistic emotional response or a poor attempt at adding ITV drama is something that everyone can decide. I like that the family is calling her out and I hope that they show her going to a therapist. After they deal with the more extreme issue at hand I hope her blatant partiality is also called out. I get that everyone doesn't need to be wholesome but a little bit of toning down would really help the show(Not just Nimmo but in general)

Other thing they could do is give an explanation for the behaviour and have the characters work towards changing it after apologies.

Must say that Hasan is brilliant. Never found him OTT and absolutely love his reactions in all the clips. Even in the promo where Amrita tells him Karan is dead(before the show released) he had impressed me and continues to do so.

Originally posted by: hapc

Nimmo started out as a strict/harsh mother, who was a little OTT(just like most characters on the show.. Amrita's jasoosi, Kabir's immaturity, Kamli's behavior with Pritam etc). The partiality was always bad. She wasn't really selfish per se until I stopped watching. Her yelling at Kabir was justified because the dude needs to grow up. A little immaturity is fine but at his age.. it isn't amusing and one needs to learn to respect other people as well. I haven't seen much post Kabir getting the job so idk if he has grown.

From the clips I've seen Nimmo has become extreme(selfish idk?) in the past few episodes. Starting from her outburst over where will Amrita go. Whether that was a realistic emotional response or a poor attempt at adding ITV drama is something that everyone can decide. I like that the family is calling her out and I hope that they show her going to a therapist. After they deal with the more extreme issue at hand I hope her blatant partiality is also called out.

I get that everyone doesn't need to be wholesome but a little bit of toning down would really help the show(Not just Nimmo but in general). Other thing they could do is give an explanation for the behaviour and have the characters work towards changing it after apologies.

Must say that Hasan is brilliant. Never found him OTT and absolutely love his reactions in all the clips. Even in the promo where Amrita tells him Karan is dead(before the show released) he had impressed me and continues to do so.

bp- I'm sorry I couldn't get the time to explain this part properly as I was writing about this same issue in my reply to @neha yet somehow that text got posted before I finished writing. Ykr, the morning issues of breakfast and other things, as I was doing that, there was some error and somehow only half text got posted.

- I totally understand your points and I feel I have given the explanation for what you were asking for in my quote post to @Neha.

bg- Exactly my point. All these are ditto my feelings. I don't even want to get into Amrita's character because she is the FL so it's obvious her mistakes won't be shown out and she will always be some "devi" or "sherni" or whatever.

- Kabir you have said all that I wanted to, yes Nimmo's behavior to him is quite OTT yet provided what kind of a character Kabir is, Nimmo isn't completely wrong either. Also if you see the way "reality" and "good parenting" works, then it is always better that atleast one parent stays strict towards to the children, be it mother or father.

- True that about Kamli, I used to get so annoyed with her behavior towards Pritam in the beginning. It was as if she is not the servant but the landlady of the house. It's like how people say, "Naukaron ko sar pe chada ke rakho toh woh sar pe nachne lagte hai" I could literally get those vibes from Kamli's attitude towards Pritam in the first episodes and I never felt it was like a brother-sister relation. It was more like Kamli is bossing on Pritam.

bb- True that, completely agree with you yet I don't feel that will be happening for Amrita neither for Meera, simply because they are the FLs in the show. Their mistakes won't be shown out as mistakes but only be "justified" either by making the MLs here Pritam and Angad, or some sub-character as complete villains.

- Also, I don't really like the way Pritam is saying "sorry" so much most of the times. I mean he is being too "apologetic" even when the mistake is not completely his. Why is he acting like a "submissive FL"?

bv- I feel it's because Hasan's "sweet nature" is coming into Pritam's character. I have heard Hasan is very sweet in real life and perhaps that is why Pritam although is supposed to be rough and tough from outside is really sweet personality which is why I love Pritam.

- I used to love everything about Pritam except for his "over-submissiveness" and he was my favorite character in the show till the episodes I have watched.

- After him, I used to love his changu-mangu Nitin-Monty and I have never liked Pritam's alone moments or Amritam moments as much as I loved "PriNiMo" moments.

- Sakhujas, I don't know, I used to like them in the beginning but then after the first two weeks they had become very annoying for me and I never liked them after that especially their jokes like that of "underwear joke" I used to hate that.

- Their some moments are good like someone recently shared a clip of Guneet and his sons here recently right? That was good.

- Yet in general I am not really fond of that family. Yes those till Angad that is Dadaji, Dadiji, Guneet, Nimmo, Angad and also Ansh because he is a baby are alright atleast till the episodes where I saw. I guess after that the CVs were making Nimmo more OTT and into a "typical ITV MIL".

- But for me Amrita, Soni, Kabir and Kamli are "over-ott" and some of their moments are very unbearable atleast for me it was like that.

- Same goes for Meera also, she is quite "ott" especially her constantly whining about "Angad never understands me...Angad never understands me...we were in a relationship" Nonsense. I mean how can you constantly blame someone for something when you are doing the same thing with that person? Only ITV FLs can talk such crap.

- On a serious note, I'm really happy to see you back here @hapc. I used to like yours, @bana and @neha posts the most here yet I can't say anything now because my experience has shown me not to believe in people right away especially in online platforms because I have seen people getting influenced by others and turning arrogant towards me so I don't know if my feelings towards you will be the same always.

- All I want to say is that I used to really like your opinions earlier and even all that you said in this thread till now yet I can't promise if I will always like them.

This Ludhiana track is so awesome !! I fail to understand why the forum is so dead. I wish many people join the forum and make this place more lively. Loving AmriTam and Amrita's progression. ❤️❤️

https://twitter.com/hopefloats77/status/1468057200966918148?t=p9zmeGjbOzOc6HGgX-Q2kw&s=19

Woah, their karaoke performance was so much funnn 🥳🤗❤️

Loving the comfort they have with each other now. It's increasing day by day. This trip to Ludhiana has been such a treat to watch ❤️

https://twitter.com/_Deliquesce/status/1468059184302211078?t=gK0S92F2GU-a53q2JDdZ6A&s=19

Pritam's expression throughout the whole scene 🤣🤣

Especially at the end 🤣🤣

Uffff, AmriTam and their banter, maarpit karte waqt bhi chalta rehta hai 🤣🤣

https://twitter.com/hopefloats77/status/1468061542470103041?t=OA8_4OCERtZMXT2PAAoR_Q&s=19

AmriTam ❤️❤️

Iktara has definitely become their song ❤️❤️❤️

Loving the ludhiana track 🤩