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Posted: 4 years ago
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I am not sure if I am violating forum rules with this question.


Would we as audience have been okay with all the bhabhi devar scene if the 'off-screen stuff' was not in the picture? I forgot about the actors and watched today's episode. And it was okay. I did not feel disgusted or anything. I think the problem is we subconsciously club the ml and villain together cause of their real life stuff.


Virat is dense, of course. Pp is, well, I am not sure what she is. Villlains do act like her, in most itv shows. I don't see this character as any different. Sai seems to have become mature but is still on fire.


But I do want a new ml. Or a new director. Cause romance scenes are mehh. Distant romance is good. But close up romance is a little juvenile. Here, as an audience, we are cheated. No question about that. Fl is on fire in all other scenes. Just the close up romance is an issue - maybe a better direction could help. Don't these people try for feedbacks?


Coming back to the question. Can someone try watching the show by disconnecting from off-screen drama, and give opinions? I'd really like to know.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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The problem is not offscreen ...the problem is how dumb the ACP is..for instance he not only rejected Sai's insinuations about Pakhi's drama...did not even put two and two together when he sees her walking without any discomfort...Most of the people are irritated at him for the leverage and benefit of doubt he gives go Pakhi know how venomous she is to his wife and what she thinks about him.. And of course CVs are questioned for bringing up such creativity...This was not needed...I feel bad for the character who is an IPS to look so dumb... I mean he is degrading in that department as far as Pakhi is concerned...

You know your Bhabhi has certain intentions for you...you know your brother is giving her chance and yet you are some or the way allowing her certain closeness to you...That too when you claim to love your brother and also are an intelligent officer...The whole sequence looks very indecent...keeping in mind what Patralekha feels for Virat and also he knowing about it ..Offscreen issues are brought up when they need to be...This whole picking her up is an unnecessary addition and is also extremely indecent considering the undercurrents ..

On top of that you have sad romantic song playing when Pakhi is in his arms..Why?? What reason for that?? Is this third angle even worth stretching..?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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At no point is it cool to show such scenes between a devar n bhabhi. Its total cringe. Irrespective of any offscreen nonsense, such scenes are not ok. Especially when in the story virat pp have a past. Virat knows what all pp has said/done. Despite that not only is he not doubting pp, he had the audacity to scoff n mock Sai as if Sai is cooking up some story. This behavior of virat doesn't make sense, doesn't fit in the overall plot either.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: quest-or

I am not sure if I am violating forum rules with this question.


Would we as audience have been okay with all the bhabhi devar scene if the 'off-screen stuff' was not in the picture? I forgot about the actors and watched today's episode. And it was okay. I did not feel disgusted or anything. I think the problem is we subconsciously club the ml and villain together cause of their real life stuff.


Virat is dense, of course. Pp is, well, I am not sure what she is. Villlains do act like her, in most itv shows. I don't see this character as any different. Sai seems to have become mature but is still on fire.


But I do want a new ml. Or a new director. Cause romance scenes are mehh. Distant romance is good. But close up romance is a little juvenile. Here, as an audience, we are cheated. No question about that. Fl is on fire in all other scenes. Just the close up romance is an issue - maybe a better direction could help. Don't these people try for feedbacks?


Coming back to the question. Can someone try watching the show by disconnecting from off-screen drama, and give opinions? I'd really like to know.


Tbh I laughed two days back on seeing the precap thinking this IPS is back to his dumb ways. So kinda used to it. But what disturbed me was the sad-romantic BGM played in that scene today. There was absolutely no need for it and Paapi’s expressions were 🤢 Plus in most other ITV shows, the vamp isn’t the ML’s ex and present bhabhi. So I was disgusted by the whole scene. It’s kinda maligning the sanctity of BIl-SIL relationship esp in country where bhabhi is considered next to mother.Secondly the plot has been repeated too often now that it has become annoying. In other shows too ML falls for vamp’s ploys but same ones over and over again? No. Just in yesterday’s episode, he said Pakhi Kuch toofan zaroor khada karegi and few hours later when Sai pointed out her apprehensions and insinuated that Pakhi’ intentions were dubious, he scoffed and brushed off ber concerns so callously. So there’s no consistency in ckts either

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I think viewers of all shows like ml to be with fl and if ml lift third angle they will surely protest.There are people who connect offscreen with onscreen but majority are fed up with virat character as he never learn from mistakes moreover an ips officer but is dump and foolish too the core.I think actress playing pakhi should improve a lot her extra expressions ruins the scene

While watching kd (I don't know bengali) but felt more for rk than emon and rono(seriously i didn't like them egoistic people) and with her expressions we feel than rk is trying to move on but can't. Here the counterpart publically lust and no one understands it.

Now since audience considers her as negative,i think makers are making pakhi as conventional itv vamp with planning and plotting which was absent in earlier episode except pulkit track

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Seriously after watching this show .

If falling means loving a guy like Virat.

Isse acha single raho,Khush raho

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: dairymilkanu

I think viewers of all shows like ml to be with fl and if ml lift third angle they will surely protest.There are people who connect offscreen with onscreen but majority are fed up with virat character as he never learn from mistakes moreover an ips officer but is dump and foolish too the core.I think actress playing pakhi should improve a lot her extra expressions ruins the scene

While watching kd (I don't know bengali) but felt more for rk than emon and rono(seriously i didn't like them egoistic people) and with her expressions we feel than rk is trying to move on but can't. Here the counterpart publically lust and no one understands it.

Now since audience considers her as negative,i think makers are making pakhi as conventional itv vamp with planning and plotting which was absent in earlier episode except pulkit track

Just in another show...fans revolted when they had to see past of the ML with his ex...Happens in all shows..here infact it lessens because sympathy card comes up that oh they are dating so they get the hate...In any show such tracks get a lot of hate...Virat as a character is being questioned and not because he is dating so and so in real life...People hardly talk about their real life anymore...Heck people don't even discuss BTS of Sairat anymore ..gone are the days when Khabri would be waited for.. for a glimpse of the two ..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I used to be an active member of this forum and what I can say is, a majority of us do not give two hoots about the offscreen couple actors in question. What pisses us off is when this starts affecting the show. As the OP, herself has mentioned, how lame the close-up romance looks like.... the most recent reference being the dream sequence of Pakhi where she sees sairat hugging... I mean seriously how badly was that scene performed and executed... The point is if you are uncomfortable, might as well come up with an alternative way which at least does not kill the vibe of the show or sairat's romance or just not have the scene altogether. There are and have been a number of shows which showed distance romances with much more spark than this show which shows trash in the name of close-up romance

and romance aside, have you noticed how retarded they made the ML look in the show? like even a child will be able to figure out Pakhi's intentions but not our ACP.... Things happen right in front of him but no, the guy is as clueless as can be...

and lastly.... sure they can show bhabi dewar shenanigans but can they stop referencing it to religion Ram-Sita-Laxman... or others... And also while showing such illicit affairs, at one point or the other, you need to show justification or the relevance of the scene to the developing plot... half the time there is no such thing in the show.... those scenes just become a medium to humiliate the FL further by the dewar bhai duo because obviously the dewar cannot hear anything against his bhabi and does not appreciate their pavitra rishta being questioned. and this is despite him knowing his bhabi's true intentions. 👏👏👏


sorry if this sounds like a rant.... but the offscreen couple is definitely not the reason for the hate this show receives.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: quest-or

Would we as audience have been okay with all the bhabhi devar scene if the 'off-screen stuff' was not in the picture? I

Simply no. Also in this case, bhabhi throws herself on her devar. The scenes are embarassing to watch especially when Bhabhi is openly lusty. This is a television show and which is why they use the term 'waqt bitana' with devar. It is implied that Bhabhi wants to bed devar and that is even disgusting to type tbh

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Irrespective of the bts happenings, I think people would still have a problem with the Devar-bhabhi scene. I personally don't give 2 hoots about what's happening off screen. The actors from the show that I follow on instagram are Ayesha and Yogi.

Coming to the whole Bhabhi dynamics, as a society, we view it as a moral wrong. Brother's wife is someone we equate with a mother. In fact the notion is so strong that the law in force itself prohibits marriages between two people who were once related to each other as Devar and Bhabhi.

So the show is clearly handling misplaced ideals when they're blatantly showing such scenes in the farce of a jilted lover trying to get her love back. I think the other two versions that ran, clearly drew a boundary between the relationship. A boundary that was well maintained all through the scenes.

But the directors and creative team together, in order to portray Patralekha as broken-hearted women are delivering scenes that would be morally and ethically wrong. A woman trying to sabotage the guy's relationship with his wife while being married to the guy's brother is not new to Indian TV. She might be in love with guy, she might even join hands with the brother to destroy him. Those are acceptable. Again boundaries maintained.

The blame here lies on the plot, the director and the way scenes are portrayed. Dynamics and relations off-screen have nothing to do with it. Maybe a little part of it also lies on the casting of Patralekha herself. What should've been a bold, vengeful woman that might have attracted audience turned out to be a messy, whiney character. What should have been an amazing attention-catching presence on screen, turned out to be a nuisance that we skip. . There have been instance of negative characters being hate-loved. So when the actor fails to deliver, plain hate takes birth.

Patralekha's expressions are OTT, constipated and border-line offensive. Her body-language is faulty. You'll find where the actor lacks if you see the scene of Sai and Patralekha walking next to each other in yesterday's episode.

As for the male lead, I guess since we have gotten used to the earnest persona that the actor portrays, we might not like a change. But does that mean he is irreplaceable and there's no one that can play it better? Absolutely no. There are multiple actors that could have pulled it off in a much better way. We know irreplaceable actors don't we? They play roles that cannot be imagined on anyone else. 10 years and a character and it's actor is still the most loved. So much that the show is loved internationally, still being re-run when in need by the channel. The character isn't the most loveable on paper. On screen, he's pure magic. Through all his hateful acts, he was loved. This was all before the rise of social media and actors being close to their fans.

This love stems from the way the character is handled. By the actor, director, script write, costume department, co-stars, PR and camera too, in a way. You see, where Ghum has failed.

Some shows are liked, some are loved. But some are idealised, they go down in history. They grow to a level that 10 years later, they still get published in well known media, not the gossip sites. Ghum unfortunately falls in the 'liked' category.

If there's one takeaway from the show that I'd like to flourish and grow leaps and bounds, that's Ayesha Singh. She's irreplaceable. You cannot imagine someone else in her place. That's how a character is played beyond bad costumes and direction. I like the actor playing Virat. He's good at it and he's got the acting chops. But he's forgettable. A new show after this, I don't see him having the same pull that a few famous actors we know. The least we speak about the others, the better.

The elder actors will go on to play elders.

Once the show ends, the future trajectory at least in my prediction is that Ayesha might shine. That young woman managed to pull off a week's worth of episodes without the male lead or the parallel female. That's talent. Talent that deserves stories and post, praising her to the moon. The fact that she doesn't share them is a personal choice, and in contrast to other actors in the show, something that I admire.

Neil, I hope gets roles after this. He's a good actor with a bad PR team from the show.

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