Unbiased opinion: Karan Kundra is a brilliant player - Page 2

Originally posted by: Fix_BB

Jasoos want your views on this

You know my views. I enjoy gamers and hence liked his thinking. I dont enjoy his tTejran but most importantly... what defines success? Is the game show so important that all u see is week after week, every week it is a house in which the missing people are the ones you repeatedly called friends/support/sister etc? I do not think so. If he had not evicted his friends, not nominated his friends (but actually nominated his "enemies" that he tells his team they are), and if the result was the same, fine. At least Juntaa and BB decided this outcome and he stood by his own. If he had been a lone warrior also, this would be fine. However, as you know, I said this earlier, even Simba knows his exact game now 🤣

He is someone that culls his own, repeatedly day after day. I don't mind playing for oneself. No one is here to give trophies to anyone else :) .... However, it cannot be where the engagement is his type where his crowd is culled week after week and his fake tears/fake emotions/fake relationships are all we see.... But the real KK who I see through now is not a gamer but a blatant manipulator and a liar... Had he let relationships be organic but not thrown his support in front of the bus week after week, no doubt I would be the one supporting him all the way. I just cant....

finally. For me. It’s you can fool some people some time. But not all the people all the time. As a viewer that liked him initially. I am in that category. I refused to be fooled by him or his fake love track of Tejran. I am not only not biting what he is selling but au contraire I see Thru him now and as a contestant I don’t agree with his approach as a contestant as I feel supporting him makes a fool out of me. :)

You already know my view on this :) Yet u keep asking me to write this Mansi :) Why o why I ask.... and dont give me a 🤣emoji --- aapka jawaab dena :)

No he is NOT. BB winners are those who show their REAL side. KK's planning plotting all is quiet. It's not about whether a gamer can play on front foot or not. Its not about aggression either. Its about showing your vulnerable side, showing your real emotions. when somebody attacks you show that you are upset. show that you are hurt. This fake mask of "I am OK" all the time and then bootlicking ppl is NOT REAL. He is not a god. he is human and a human has emotions. every human has vulnerable side.

Past winners are only those who shows their REAL side. If you show your real side ppl will defend you when you make mistakes. My biggest problem with KK is I dont find him real at all.

Originally posted by: KJasoosChulbulP

You know my views. I enjoy gamers and hence liked his thinking. I dont enjoy his tTejran but most importantly... what defines success? Is the game show so important that all u see is week after week, every week it is a house in which the missing people are the ones you repeatedly called friends/support/sister etc? I do not think so. If he had not evicted his friends, not nominated his friends (but actually nominated his "enemies" that he tells his team they are), and if the result was the same, fine. At least Juntaa and BB decided this outcome and he stood by his own. If he had been a lone warrior also, this would be fine. However, as you know, I said this earlier, even Simba knows his exact game now 🤣

He is someone that culls his own, repeatedly day after day. I don't mind playing for oneself. No one is here to give trophies to anyone else :) .... However, it cannot be where the engagement is his type where his crowd is culled week after week and his fake tears/fake emotions/fake relationships are all we see.... But the real KK who I see through now is not a gamer but a blatant manipulator and a liar... Had he let relationships be organic but not thrown his support in front of the bus week after week, no doubt I would be the one supporting him all the way. I just cant....

finally. For me. It’s you can fool some people some time. But not all the people all the time. As a viewer that liked him initially. I am in that category. I refused to be fooled by him or his fake love track of Tejran. I am not only not biting what he is selling but au contraire I see Thru him now and as a contestant I don’t agree with his approach as a contestant as I feel supporting him makes a fool out of me. :)

You already know my view on this :) Yet u keep asking me to write this Mansi :) Why o why I ask.... and dont give me a 🤣emoji --- aapka jawaab dena :)

I feel all relationships he made aren't genuine

Everything is calculative for game

Originally posted by: Fix_BB

I feel all relationships he made aren't genuine

Everything is calculative for game

Exactly. This is what I just said. Nothing he does looks genuine. Nothing looks REAL. BB viewers love people who are REAL. Dont know who will be winner but past winners there is one trait common they were REAL. Whether they had flaws or not is a different matter but They showed their real emotions.

Originally posted by: fizzyslayer

Exactly. This is what I just said. Nothing he does looks genuine. Nothing looks REAL. BB viewers love people who are REAL. Dont know who will be winner but past winners there is one trait common they were REAL. Whether they had flaws or not is a different matter but They showed their real emotions.

Filhaal to he is winning all youtube polls and ormax

Umar has great potential but channel will never let him win ,max uska chance top2

What I wanted to say has already been said.

Nothing absolutely nothing I find in the guy genuine.

Hi guys,

I am a silent member on this forum but finally writing a post as there are some interesting takes here and wanted to provide my two cents as well.

I tuned in the first week as i followed S13 and S14 religiously and liked both for different reasons but have been skipping episodes since the past week as I feel there is currently no "strong" player. Coming to KK, wasn't a fan ever but was looking forward to what he can do and boyyyy was stumped with his Week 1 performance only soon to realize that this guy is nothing but an emotional and toxic manipulator, someone who can throw even his friends under the bus whenever needed.

All the previous season winners haven't been this cunningly evil. If they don't like you, not only do you know it but they blatantly tell you so. I hated Siddarth Shukla in his season but his reason to victory was that he was real and people connected with his rawness. His relationship with Shehnaaz looked genuine and not really game related. KK's connection with Teja looks so off that its funny. I mean has he forgotten that people have a sense of his real personality through reality shows and his behavior here is completely contrary to that. A guy in his late 30s with his history saying it took me to come to this show to realize my type.....like seriously!! Also how he treated and spoke of Afsana yesterday in the VIP room was disheartening. Atleast Umar was feeling bad but Karan didn't feel anything....and when outside he was saying main tera bhai hu. Season winners made real relationships and stood by them till the end. Someone was drawing parallels yesterday in the forum between Sid and Aarti in S13 and Karan and Afsana and that made complete sense. Its okay to make relationships to move ahead but using the same relationships to your convenience and disposing them off is not winner quality.

In conclusion, even i know he is the channel winner but in my opinion he will become one only due to the Viacom support and not due to his persona. Though i am not a Pratik fan, he is a far better winner for me as he is both real and genuine.

Originally posted by: SP2684

This one’s always a catch 22 though. People say they want smart gamers - which necessitates manipulation in this game - which in turn, cannot be successful if one is upfront about it. Manipulation requires cloak and dagger, so to speak. But ultimately - such people are found sneaky and therefore not so wanted after all. It was the same issue people had with VG, as I recall - though I wouldn’t liken Karan’s game to his - I think they’re quite different.

There are aspects of Karan’s personality and game that I don’t like - forefront is his being non-confrontational. Because that often comes across as spinelessness - and two, people want in your face, big fighters as of the last few seasons. Explosive drama. Quiet gamers don’t find appreciation. It is that more than anything else that’s the problem IMO. And the TejRan bullshit is cringe - puts many people off too, including myself.

I think the people that truly aren’t taking any feedback and adjusting their games, are Vishal and Jay. Which is a shame - because though there are likewise aspects of Vishal’s personality and game that are dislikable, he’s a quality player for this game. Jay - I don’t think is right for this game at all.

My not so popular two cents.

Sorry have to disagree here. There have been many seasons winners who have won due to their gift of gab (Gauhar, Rubina, Hina - 1st runner up but extremely articulate) and all these seasons have done well with the audience. S11 didn't have any celebrated love angle (Punish Bandini i don't think were main players) and was a hit because of its individual players and their strategies but it was a season with loyalties. Even someone like Paras has loyalties in place.

My point is Karan's claims are far from the reality executed in his actions. If he was a manipulator and didn't defend himself, i would have supported him. He could have very well been that and played solo (without emotional bonds) and i would have loved him for it. However he decided to make connections and playing with emotions isn't cool! That is the difference between Week 1 and now. You can sting people and be smart about it, but its under the belt when you sting a friend and Karan has done that umpteen times already. Whether its Afsana's instance yesterday, letting down Teja in front of Shamita and inturn defending himself saying she is 9 younger and won't understand what happened (this is toxic!). He is a perpetual liar and doesn't differentiate when he gets down to doing that and is ready to belittle you when u call him out.

Not a fan of Teja and Afsana but they seem far better people than KK.

Originally posted by: Sanjanas

Sorry have to disagree here. There have been many seasons winners who have won due to their gift of gab (Gauhar, Rubina, Hina - 1st runner up but extremely articulate) and all these seasons have done well with the audience. S11 didn't have any celebrated love angle (Punish Bandini i don't think were main players) and was a hit because of its individual players and their strategies but it was a season with loyalties. Even someone like Paras has loyalties in place.

My point is Karan's claims are far from the reality executed in his actions. If he was a manipulator and didn't defend himself, i would have supported him. He could have very well been that and played solo (without emotional bonds) and i would have loved him for it. However he decided to make connections and playing with emotions isn't cool! That is the difference between Week 1 and now. You can sting people and be smart about it, but its under the belt when you sting a friend and Karan has done that umpteen times already. Whether its Afsana's instance yesterday, letting down Teja in front of Shamita and inturn defending himself saying she is 9 younger and won't understand what happened (this is toxic!). He is a perpetual liar and doesn't differentiate when he gets down to doing that and is ready to belittle you when u call him out.

Not a fan of Teja and Afsana but they seem far better people than KK.

Fair enough, I respect your view. I just have a different take on the instances you’ve mentioned above. I don’t believe he’s a saint, but I don’t think he’s evil either.

Theres not much difference in vishal and kk gameplay if I can say that. But atleast vishal scores a bit more coz he is loyal to the people he calls his friend/sister etc. his dislike for jay is also in the open and not behind his back. I am sure tomorrow kk may even backstab Umar (over nishant) .