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Posted: 4 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: desigal90

These mandates allow for physician exemptions. If a physician feels a patient has risks they can exempt them. So many of my patients with all kinds of clotting history for the vaccines and were fine. The reason I told the story was I don't think the vaccine causes a lung clot a month and a half later (timeline doesn't add up). But people will connect the two and say, vaccine did it. Again, correlation doesn't mean causation.

Physicians are out of loop or forced to stay out of loop in giving you exemptions.


I know one doctor who allowed someone in my family to take vaccine and post vaccination got side effects. Now is dependent on antihistamine daily to avoid resurgence of side effects.


My point is only that proper research wasn't carried out.. all those subjects who were likely to get side effects weren't identified. Who doesn't wants immunity but what if that immunity comes at cost of getting life-long and life-altering side effects.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: Zeal17

Physicians are out of loop or forced to stay out of loop in giving you exemptions.


I know one doctor who allowed someone in my family to take vaccine and post vaccination got side effects. Now is dependent on antihistamine daily to avoid resurgence of side effects.


My point is only that proper research wasn't carried out.. all those subjects who were likely to get side effects weren't identified. Who doesn't wants immunity but what if that immunity comes at cost of getting life-long and life-altering side effects.

did you read the Pfizer study? Because they took 33 thousand subjects and stratified them. Even ethnically.

Here's the link for all concerned

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577

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Posted: 4 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: desigal90

So Ebola didnt take 10 to 15 years. Now Covid made even faster. It just means that duration is getting shorter because we're getting better at this. We're more efficient.


I just have the flu shot as an example coz you asked why do we need more Covid doses. So I'd drew a comparison that the flu also needs vaccinations every year.


The difference is that Ebola already existed and that they had already studied the virus. Also, there has been Ebola cases recently in Guinea.

So developing a vaccine doesn't take one year... as even for COVID it didn't take one year.


I'm still regretting getting the COVID shots and I won't be getting the 3rd, 4th, etc. ones. They should come up with something else.

Exercise, a good diet and exposition to microbes helps in reinforcing our immunity.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: desigal90

Have you ever read the list of side effects listed on common medications and antibiotics that everyone takes without thinking on a daily basis?



I did and people are forced to take this meds.

Also people get this meds when they are actually sick...

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Posted: 4 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: desigal90

Then let them first investigate this so called whistle blower rather than discarding and disregarding scientific studies.


The vaccines work. California has lowest infection rates and high rates of vaccine compared with other states.


"So-called" because it doesn't suit your narrative.

But you're not wrong as Pfizer has the means and connections to pay their way out of this.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: Maraka_Musso89

Exercise, a good diet and exposition to microbes helps in reinforcing our immunity.

so you're implying that the thousands of people that died all over the word didn't have a good diet and exercise? Indians are generally healthier in terms of weight than Americans. But India got ravaged by the virus. This virus doesn't care about your age. And the only reason MORE haven't died is because of medicine and science; and our ability to artificially supply enhance levels of oxygen, or intubate while in a medical induced coma. Left you to exercise and diet without medical intervention, I can't even begin to describe the impact of mortality.


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Posted: 4 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: desigal90

did you read the Pfizer study? Because they took 33 thousand subjects and stratified them. Even ethnically.

Here's the link for all concerned

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577

Well-done for Pfizer to test it on 33 thousand subjects but those 33 thousand subjects represent the entire population of the world.

If those 33 Thousand are the benchmark why are we witnessing thousands of people getting identical side effects. That means the set of people getting those weren't in those 33 thousands.

Now that we know identcal side effects do exist of this vaccine. Why aren't we backchanneling in identifying those likely to get the side effects and keep them out of mandates. For time being stop giving vaccines unless set of people are identified.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: Zeal17

Well-done for Pfizer to test it on 33 thousand subjects but those 33 thousand subjects represent the entire population of the world.

If those 33 Thousand are the benchmark why are we witnessing thousands of people getting identical side effects. That means the set of people getting those weren't in those 33 thousands.

Now that we know identcal side effects do exist of this vaccine. Why aren't we backchanneling in identifying those likely to get the side effects and keep them out of mandates. For time being stop giving vaccines unless set of people are identified.

They have listed all the adverse effects in the study. There are 3 paragraphs dedicated to adverse effects, types of effects, percentage with effects both in vaccine group and placebo. Again, read the study.


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Posted: 4 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: desigal90


Why are we getting more vaccines? Coz coronavirus are like the flu virus. It mutates and vaccine efficacy also wanes. Don't we get the flu vaccine every year? Why is this surprising?

Last I checked Flu vaccines weren't mandated but recommended. Those weren't taking flu shots weren't segregated from society.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#70

Originally posted by: desigal90

Then let them first investigate this so called whistle blower rather than discarding and disregarding scientific studies.


The vaccines work. California has lowest infection rates and high rates of vaccine compared with other states.


I get it you pro COVID vaccine.

Yesterday we had to watch my father-in-law’s funeral online. His health went downhill after the 3rd booster. For someone who looked really well and went completely downhill in a few days from the 3rd dose, it was heartbreaking. He is the 3rd person in our family who passed away from the 3rd dose.

My colleague’s dad passed away from a cardiac arrest from the vaccine. Another colleague of mine was admitted to the emergency after his 1st dose of Pfizer. This colleague’s dad was also admitted to the ICU after the vaccine. My cousin was bleeding profusely after her vaccine and took weeks for the bleeding to stop. My husband friend’s passed away from a stroke and another friend’s friend also passed from a heart attack.

It’s easy for you to say the COVID vaccines are safe but in reality they haven’t been sufficiently tested. So many young people are ending up with myocarditis or other severe health issues which they have to live their whole lives suffering from side effects. Covid is a treatable respiratory disease whereas several of those side effects are not.


I also have several friends and relatives who had covid and recovered without any issues prior to the vaccine being available.

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