Sorry Raghav, not yet... - Page 7

Originally posted by: inlieu

He is a one-woman man, and his ex will at best be a friend in his present and future, nothing more. Caring for her as a friend won't conflict with being able to love Pallavi as her husband. If the thing in the hotel room hadn't happened and Raghav had just learned about her sacrifice it would be pretty normal for him to get back to being on amicable terms and choose to remain courteous or friendly in a platonic manner.

Last but most important this is a very unique and mature subject if they’re going to show such a subject in the show when a man has to fight for his rights bcuz he’s Infact being violated by a woman who happens to be his ex gf as well the creatives and the directors here aren’t that good to execute that I feel and I hope they don’t mess it up big time .

As I said as much as I hated to watch Easha with Raghav I’m watching the show and I’ll be watching it only bcoz of Sai & Shivangi

Originally posted by: Trina2021

Yeah but I guess Easha closed that bridge by violating him in drunken state against his consent /wish . Now my question is would he know that he had been violated or is he going to go on a guilt trip Bcoz of this bcoz he slept with Easha and wronged her as well bcoz he didn’t and he knows very well how Easha sent those messages to him even after knowing he’s married and happy with someone else ?

Last but most important this is a very unique and mature subject if they’re going to show such a subject in the show when a man has to fight for his rights bcuz he’s Infact being violated by a woman who happens to be his ex gf as well the creatives and the directors here aren’t that good to execute that I feel and I hope they don’t mess it up big time .

As I said as much as I hated to watch Easha with Raghav I’m watching the show and I’ll be watching it only bcoz of Sai & Shivangi

Yes, so until Esha crossed the line, everything was still acceptable. She made that decision that cannot be reversed. Even if Raghav were single, what Esha did was totally wrong. It's a crime but these CVs will either ignore it completely or make a mockery of it, which I hate. They don't usually deal with such serious and sensitive matters properly, especially this subject, where men are at a disadvantage because the society and even the law doesn't take them as seriously as in the case of women.

See, when Raghav woke up, his first reaction was that he must have done something in a drunken state, rather than worrying about being violated. If it had been a woman in his place, her first reaction would more likely have been that she'd worry about being violated. Even men are often conditioned by society to think of themselves as perpetrators by default instead of as victims.

I don't know to what extent Esha went, but even kissing him when he's not conscious or in a state to be able to consent was a violation already.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yes, so until Esha crossed the line, everything was still acceptable. She made that decision that cannot be reversed. Even if Raghav were single, what Esha did was totally wrong. It's a crime but these CVs will either ignore it completely or make a mockery of it, which I hate. They don't usually deal with such serious and sensitive matters properly, especially this subject, where men are at a disadvantage because the society and even the law doesn't take them as seriously as in the case of women.

See, when Raghav woke up, his first reaction was that he must have done something in a drunken state, rather than worrying about being violated. If it had been a woman in his place, her first reaction would more likely have been that she'd worry about being violated. Even men are often conditioned by society to think of themselves as perpetrators by default instead of as victims.

I don't know to what extent Esha went, but even kissing him when he's not conscious or in a state to be able to consent was a violation already.

@Bold

This is the major point here. Thats why I am half certain that the makers will focus on Raghav's guilt and brush the issue of violation completely under the carpet.

Cause then there is the fact that men getting violated per se by a woman will look weird on their stupid sense of masculinity as well. I mean, Raghav might feel horrible knowing something happened like that.. coz we all are humans regardless of gender at the base.. but as he is a man he is not allowed to voice his expression regarding the same without making him look ridiculous.

Another point of concern.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yes, so until Esha crossed the line, everything was still acceptable. She made that decision that cannot be reversed. Even if Raghav were single, what Esha did was totally wrong. It's a crime but these CVs will either ignore it completely or make a mockery of it, which I hate. They don't usually deal with such serious and sensitive matters properly, especially this subject, where men are at a disadvantage because the society and even the law doesn't take them as seriously as in the case of women.

See, when Raghav woke up, his first reaction was that he must have done something in a drunken state, rather than worrying about being violated. If it had been a woman in his place, her first reaction would more likely have been that she'd worry about being violated. Even men are often conditioned by society to think of themselves as perpetrators by default instead of as victims.

I don't know to what extent Esha went, but even kissing him when he's not conscious or in a state to be able to consent was a violation already.

Ok I was confused about his reaction...you explained it well....ok but then again he was calm when he was talking on the phone with Pallavi..no anger no guilt ...nothing ...or is it something we have to see in today's episode. 🤔. What do you think ?? Kya dikha ne ki koshish kar rahe hai yeh log??

Originally posted by: reshanu02

Ok I was confused about his reaction...you explained it well....ok but then again he was calm when he was talking on the phone with Pallavi..no anger no guilt ...nothing ...or is it something we have to see in today's episode. 🤔. What do you think ?? Kya dikha ne ki koshish kar rahe hai yeh log??

He was shocked and wanted to get out of there as fast as possible, and was trying to stay calm (or he'd have an accident while driving!). I don't think they showed him long enough to le us in on his thoughts but it will come!

Originally posted by: subbuappu

I get you Sammy. But I just don't understand that why people say on that she took bullet for him?? Didn't he tried to shoot himself at point blank during M track?? I am not degrading P's love but just can't see R's love for P sidelined just because that bullet didn't want through his head?? I am not a person who observe the BG song much so I don't even remember the song unless it is a really famous song... Many songs i heard as bg song, i went and searched in YouTube (that's how I watched Sanam teri kasam movie 😆) so i really don't know what impact that BG song would have created in audience mind.. as I don't know much about it I hawa mein filtered the song.. may be people who observe these nuances might feel it cringy..

Oh priya 😂 out of all the things BG 🤣you crack me up.

The point was the narrative while giving soft BG is indicating that both R and E are having soft feelings.

And yes R too was a ready to take bullet for her but it won't count now bhool bhool.

It is the feelings of Pal masters most in this track coz she is going to get hurt big this time...

All this is my speculation on the current situation

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yes, she took a bullet for him but he was about to shoot himself for her and if Ayi hadn't saved him he might have been dead. I don't think bringing up the point about the bullet proves anything per se.

Sorry, I don't mean to offend you here, just stating my perspective.

I don't get it about the eyelock, it was barely a couple of seconds and for me it was awkward moment between the two because there was no anger or hatred and they were trying to find common ground after ages. Also, they had been close friends before becoming lovers and I guess when you try to patch up with an old friend after a lot of misunderstandings and much time passing, it does get awkward.

Hey not offended 😳

At this point am not even watching the epi, can't bear.

I am just gauging and reflecting on FDs reaction.

Yes he would have let his life for her, and yes at this point even if he dies for her people still feel they stand corrected.

Coz with last track behaviour and this track guilt Pall have more weightage and moral high ground over him.

And am just searching wether people really still holding onto R or not.

Guys.

Stay strong, sending positive vibes 🤗

Originally posted by: Isamreen

Hey not offended 😳

At this point am not even watching the epi, can't bear.

I am just gauging and reflecting on FDs reaction.

Yes he would have let his life for her, and yes at this point even if he dies for her people still feel they stand corrected.

Coz with last track behaviour and this track guilt Pall have more weightage and moral high ground over him.

And am just searching wether people really still holding onto R or not.

Guys.

Stay strong, sending positive vibes 🤗

The episodes have actually not been so bad but the comments of people are souring things. Many haven't even watched the episode and are reacting based on updates and messages on social media, without the right context.

Why does this have to be a competition between who's more right or wrong? Raghav was never a white, clean hero so I never expect him to know how to balance relationships perfectly or be a master problem solver, etc. He will screw up.

Also, people forget that Pallavi's only been in his life for a few months and while she's had a positive effect on him, the 10 years of misery aren't going to go away overnight, especially because of what happened during his formative years.

Also, people can't accept that he was in love with his ex just because he's meant to be in love with Pallavi now. I don't see what one has to do with the other. So they are taunting him left right and center and the latest buzz word is emotional cheating.

I give up.

Originally posted by: inlieu

The episodes have actually not been so bad but the comments of people are souring things. Many haven't even watched the episode and are reacting based on updates and messages on social media, without the right context.

Why does this have to be a competition between who's more right or wrong? Raghav was never a white, clean hero so I never expect him to know how to balance relationships perfectly or be a master problem solver, etc. He will screw up.

Also, people forget that Pallavi's only been in his life for a few months and while she's had a positive effect on him, the 10 years of misery aren't going to go away overnight, especially because of what happened during his formative years.

Also, people can't accept that he was in love with his ex just because he's meant to be in love with Pallavi now. I don't see what one has to do with the other. So they are taunting him left right and center and the latest buzz word is emotional cheating.

I give up.

I am with you dude. I can't take this toxicity any longer. I mean what is wrong with people? Its impossible to keep an open mind and have an unbiased judgment for the audience if this keeps on going.

I mean, Raghav is portrayed basically as an antihero... that was evident from the get go. He will be shown making mistakes and blunders often. His intentions are always at the right place but his methods mostly go wrong. You can't flip and change within a few months without any intensive care for a damage done so deep. I don't know how people suddenly expect him to be Purushuttam Maryada... and as you said, the trauma of a decade cannot get wiped out within ten months.

The worst part here is what I feel, is that people lable the partners cheaters instantly the moment they show any care or affection for anyone except each other. Arre, how do couples stay in a relationship within an isolated bubble?

And I can't believe that I came across people bashing Raghav because he wanted to make sure Esha didn't commit suicide after he kinda got a bad feeling when Keerti read a similar news. I mean I can't wrap this around my head.. what was the appropriate reaction one is supposed to feel here?

And I think people are disregarding how traumatic abandonment issues can be. Its called a psychological disease. Its not melodrama. For a person who had always been left by all the people he cared about for as many as ten years that also in painful circumstances, its a big deal. You cannot wish away a fear like that... that's a defect in him.

I am not justifying him lying. I am telling the forum to understand his reasons before outright bashing him or maligning his character.

And this Pallavi vs. Raghav is giving me a headache. Just because the bullet hit her and didn't blow his brains out doesn't mean he loves her any less. The intention to give away their lives for the other was in the same intensity for both. At this stage, I wish Raghav would have shot himself during that Mandaar track and the serial should have ended on that note... drama hi khatam ho jataa...

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This is the problem Sammy... All the things that RR did for P were brushed under the carpet and they seem to be of no worth because of these last few episodes.. Everyone says that he is insecure but isn't security in relation ship is a two way?? One can only feel it if the other partner is offering.. if only R is insecure that means is P isn't providing it?? But it's not the way. The insecurity (not the one in M track because I don't feel it as insecurity) that R feels time and again is because of himself considering that he is not worthy of P because she holds high moral grounds.. if P is not insecure means can we take it as R gave that assurance to her by his actions?? If that's not the case then why makers arent showing P's insecurities?? P can be shown insecure of Raghav not trusting her but makers are failing to show that and they just go on showing Pallavi saying that she trusts Raghav a lot.. but from where she got that???

If the makers wanted to show how a widow was able to secure her relationship from all aspects, then they have to address this also but not only mending the ways of her husband... At a point we feel that the relationship is only going one way..

I don't know if I made sense but this is my take away from the whole happening...