Everyone was shocked except - Page 8

samrat was the first one to notice

Originally posted by: Soanz.19

Virat is in love with the attention that Pakhi gives him. His male ego is boosted with the fact that this woman is ready to drop everything in a second and come running to him whenever he wants. Bas aur kya chahiye. Maybe this is the definition of "Dosti" in his dictionary. Aisi dosti mubarak ho Devar-Bhabhi ki jodi ko👏

exactly...200 marks for ur point.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

I don't feel Virat was lying when he told Pakhi off during his confrontation with her. That's why I said his soft corner towards Pakhi is subconscious. Consciously, he believes himself to be in love with Sai so he thinks he is doing the right thing by telling Pakhi off. So he is not really lying. But apart from these confrontations, his actions have been contradictory. His subconscious craving for approval makes him go soft with Pakhi, and take liberties with her at normal times and also to allow her to humiliate Sai during the bad times. My take on Virat may seem complicated but such people do exist in real life.

Most people who engage in emotional EMA (either knowingly or unknowingly) do so because they feel they are not getting the love, attention that they want.

I agree with your point about placing faith in the story despite creative liberties taken here and there since it is fiction- and that's how I approached Virat's characterization too. But I'm increasingly getting convinced that Leena Gangopadhyay did not write a made-for-each-other love story as it appears. The scenes after Samrat's return has changed my perspective. Ghum is very very complex. I do believe that Leena was hinting at emotional affair too - which if we go by KD, continues to wreak havoc in SaiRat relationship.

This is purely my POV based on what has been shown.

Nethraa so apt there... Their is an EMA till the end...there is a connection between Bhabhi and her devar, who were ex, to an extent that it can bother any partner, any partner who is told she is loved. You know till she knows she is not loved its still fine, but when she is told she is loved by her husband, this EMA is extremely depressing... Virat has been subconsciously very protective about Patralekha, caring towards her and her respect in the house at the expense of all his relationship, while he claims to be in love with Sai...You know it takes me back to the early Ghum days when it started, the situation was same, but the women different...Sai was in Patralekha's place and Patralekha in Sai's...

worst acting by neil.i regret for being his fan. pulkith ko thanks he was sensible enough to call samrat. i was watching old episodes.wish sai's aaba was alive to give one tight slap on virat's face,atkeast then , we will see some emotions.😡spineless. real life jodi acting be ek jaisaey kartaen hein.i pity neil's parent,before marriage itna influence means after marriage🤢

was tamil version like this?

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

They are best friends... More close to each other than any on in the family is to Virat.. more close than sunny is to Virat..

Waise yr tareef k layak hai ye friendship humko to friendship krne me bhi 2-3 mahine lgta h or inko pyaar or BFF wali friendship krne me ek second nhi lga 😂

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

My understanding is - Virat is being emotionally unfaithful but he doesn't realise it. This is what I believe the writer intends to convey. As Asmi has pointed out in numerous posts, lot of times, people fail to recognise that they are involved in an emotional EMA because they haven't slept with the 'other'.

Virat has strong feelings towards Sai because he feels good when he is with her, and he senses that she is a caring person - he wants to be as important to her as her abha was. He is in love with the idea of being with her.

But Virat is also always hungry for acceptance - and he gets that in plenty from Pakhi. He no longer feels any romantic inclination towards Pakhi - so he convinces himself that his actions towards Pakhi is just friendship. But there is a disturbing tendency to take liberties with her, an instinctive need to protect her - because he relates to her, sees himself to be a bit like Pakhi. As laksh had so beautifully explained in one of her posts - both Pakhi & Virat give too much importance to the rush of feelings they get (Virat towards Sai & Pakhi towards Virat) and build it up as a fantasy in their mind - but at the same time, they fail to recognise the foundation of a real relationship - trust, respect and genuine care. Both their 'love' is shallow. So while Virat may not realise, subconsciously, he not only relates to Pakhi, but also likes the acceptance that Pakhi extends to him. All this is happening at the subconscious level ofcourse, and hence the contradictory actions - where he tells Pakhi he is off limits but continues to engage in unacceptable behaviour with Pakhi. He doesn't have deep care towards Pakhi either.

In short, Virat is a psychological mess.

Apart from this emotional side, there is another side to him - the Ninad in him. The one that at a deep level, doesn't have real respect for the spouse, that feels entitled to punish/ill-treat his spouse for failing to understand him.

Before Samrat's return, even I thought Virat is being protective towards Pakhi for the sake of Samrat. I also ignored a couple of inappropriate scenes of Virakhi hand-holding as a stunt by the makers to keep the third wheel angle alive. But all this leeway given have been shattered by Samrat's return. His continued empathy and blindness towards his ex, him ganging up with his ex to humiliate his wife has opened the can of worms that we were all trying to ignore.

I still don't particularly look for love in his actions - SaiRat's lack of communication has been so bad that I don't expect either of them to be in love. Couples can take years to reach that stage. I don't mind him not trying to get Sai back due to his hurt either. I'm also ok with him acting selfish and self-absorbed - because it has been established that's how he is. What is troubling is the complete lack of respect that he has shown towards Sai. No matter the magnitude of the issues between a couple, I cannot see ANYONE ganging up with an ex to insult/humiliate his/her spouse. He has destroyed the dignity of spousal relationship. It completely broke Sai.

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌 Exactly what I think about this situation if I am fair

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I am more concerned with their standing positions in the family scenes...Until and unless they dont have to talk about Ram Sita and do some ritual/Pooja....this is their usual standing position... This was never the case in the original...RK and Rono were always always at distance,until and unless the duo had their scenes......

From scenes, to standing positions, to expressions to reactions/actions all look like they are husband wife ...Just dialogues say otherwise...Sometimes even dialogues as well dont... This show is one of the worst in terms of story, execution, direction.... The actors extremely disregarding towards the story and the characters...

I thought I was over thinking when I saw the precap clips🙈

All this body language gives a diff pic ..these nuances are imp .

Mostly my thinking matches most with u

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Can we have a continuation of today's scene where she is soooo caring for Virat 😆 where Samrat asks her , Patralekha, remember me , your husband and he is you devar 🤣

Virat and Pakhi, both will then give a confused, shocked look to Samrat. Virat will also get hurt 🤭. He will act clueless 🤷‍♀️ 🤣. Pakhi will say Samrat.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

this is definitely true, because there is some psychological arc for every character. That makes their marriage also complex. They don’t have understanding, which is relatable to real world.

with virat what I see is his character does go soft on women. I wish they could show the reason for this tendency explicitly. I still don’t believe in emotional affait because if shruthi is coming, he still stands by her (at the cost of sai) even though having no emotional connection with her. Also in the end, when samrat dies he goes back to stand with pakhi, more for the guilt that her life got ruined! So his sympathy with women is hurtful to his marriage definitely. Still I don’t think it is an emotional affair because by the end of the story, it is being said/shown that sai only was his true love!

again, would love to disagree here 🤗 let’s see how they show it here.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Let me share what I see as an issue with the character or this relationship. You know my views on Virat all the while but these have flagged up due to the recent events. And if I then look at the past events too now, many a things look concerning or worrisome.

@bold Exactly what is wrong. Going soft on other women ignoring his wife is not a good sign. He isn’t a reliable person. He likes to act like a saviour for all and that’s not how it should be. He should stay unmarried and continue to do service to all women who are in need or if he wants his wife to understand him and love him, he needs to first learn to respect her, love her and treat her like a partner. Whatever help he offers women should be offered with his wife by his side and only if his wife is comfortable. Service should start at home. He breaks all promises made to his wife and is going around helping people out of duty, sympathy or guilt and how is this right? Once he got married, he needs to learn to respect it, otherwise none of the tears that he is shedding now or in the future will ever make sense. Social service or goodness, it should all start at home. First one has to learn to respect their partner and look at what they want or look at their comfort. His decisions involves another person too since he is not a single man like how he was in GC. He could go for a deal marriage back then which itself has resulted in so much of complications, how is he then thinking that he can go around helping everyone offering himself as the sole support to the person? One has to learn to draw lines with people and as I have said, every decision of his will have an impact on Sai too and he can’t take those decisions all alone.

Virat wouldn’t have been able to tolerate even 5 percent of what Sai has gone through all the while. Whatever he feels for Sai or claims to feel for Sai is nothing since he has failed to respect her. He didn’t feel guilty to have locked her up even today when Shivani questioned him. He didn’t care when he ganged up with Pakhi to bully/humiliate Sai. Him letting go of Sai is one human thing that he is doing after a long time.

The problem is not only the past. This will continue in the future too. He will be fine if things go on well between him and Sai and can show any face, if things don’t go well between them. He will gang up with anyone to put down or humiliate or hurt Sai. Love need not be selfless, but it shouldn’t be so cruel that they will want to inflict pain going to any lengths and Virat always does that. He has inherited some amount of toxicity which makes him act vile and also makes him punish people too. Sai is always considered as one less by him and not an equal because of which he keeps taking an upper hand in their relationship always. He is very judgmental too. He likes one part of Sai and he expects that Sai changes the other part. If he expects that Sai corrects her flaws, I would understand but his expectations are based on the expectations of his family. He wants or prefers that Sai is liked by everyone in the family and that they shouldn’t have issues with her. Just like how he has an image, maintains an image at the cost of even his mom and wife’s respect, he wants Sai to have a good image in front of the family. That is why he likes Pakhi. He likes the way she has created an impression amongst one set of people at home. He gets irritated and cringes when one set of people support Sai because he is now bugged of hearing those kind of praises for Sai. He has his own issues with Sai. He feels she lacks in many things and all those has come out so openly ever since they both have been having issues. It is also because he notices the praise that Pakhi gets from the powerful people of the house, who according to him are the people who are right in disciplining and having right expectations from Sai. He wants Sai to earn that image from those people. How would we term these as love? He has way too many conditions. Some of his expectations can be right but whatever I have highlighted in green are toxic and is not a good sign. It is not worth it. He cannot be a good spouse if he continues to be like this and doesn’t change himself. He has to realise and correct whatever he shares with Pakhi. As I have said, he is not a single man. His decisions and actions will always have an impact on Sai and he should keep that in mind always. He should be mindful of his actions. He would always want Sai to agree with him, understand him, accept decisions taken by him. And if she doesn’t, he will forever act like a victim that she fails to understand him even if his expectations are unreasonable. He wouldn’t take decisions keeping Sai in mind, or her comfort in mind. These are all basic things. He just wouldn’t think in that aspect when it comes to these. What’s the use in him acting nice when he is not going to give her that position that she deserves?

He would end up hurting any spouse with this kind of an attitude and is not a reliable person IMO. Sai also needs to change but she would at least introspect, will be forgiving, caring even when things are not going well between them and would not ever act inhuman but I can’t say the same for Virat. Just my views.

Nethra, forgot to tag you. Quoted you since Sadhika’s reply was to your comment.