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Posted: 4 years ago
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Because SaiRat is so in demand.. Lol lol 👎🏼

What's the point stuck in relationships when there is NO respect ...

Why everyone is hell bent on interested to know who virat loves....How an abuser can be lebaled as a lover 🤓🤢

In my opinion I don't want a new hero for Sai.. That's so demeaning as an woman who needs a man to protect her always. Virat should learn a lesson but hardest way..Why this poor girl has to go through brain surgery.. Why she has to be the one always in the receiving end..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Looks like someone reported episode to IBF India who is supposed to censor ITV and they said its just part of storyline, so they rejected the complaint. So when the proper authorities do not recognize abuse for what it is, what can be expected in forum. However I am glad that it is constantly brought up in forum for what it is for young people to read about and understand.


I hope people look at it beyond Sai and Virat and recognize that the show makes FL go thru cycle of abuse and probably thats what the original writer intended, but it should be seen a cautionary tale rather than romance. Maybe thats where Vankar is misinterpreting the original.


Tamil version changed the ML behavior for good and he never repeated the mistake his memory loss and remarriage track. However in KD, looks like it goes on till the end and she eventually goes back to him for the cycle to probably restart again.


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Posted: 4 years ago
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It was recognized in the serial by its characters.



BTW this "tension" wala part in the above chart 👆 is true for the forum also 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Small mercies it was spelt out by one of the characters atleast

I had sent a formal complaint to StarPlus during the PD lunch trsck.....and got back a dumb, rehashed reply....

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Small mercies it was spelt out by one of the characters atleast

I had sent a formal complaint to StarPlus during the PD lunch trsck.....and got back a dumb, rehashed reply....

After all this Raja babu said tumne mujhe majboor kar diya Sai tumhe room mei lock karne k liye

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Posted: 4 years ago
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This post is smiley27

You also commented why the fandom is hesitant to recognize this. While I can't say for everyone, I can surely say for myself:

1) Normalization of such thing by ITV serials: Now, these things might not be considered right or be excused when it comes to my real life, but as for tv serials it is more like ye to sab mein dikhaate hi hai. But of course there was always this nagging and guilt ridden thought on my mind "Dikhaate hai kyuki hum dekhte hai"

2) The chemistry of SaiRat because of NeilSha: When it comes to SaiRat scenes (soem not all) the chemistry between is so beautiful that one who gets hooked to it just wants to see it more and more. And thus, while there are moments when I don't want to do continue watching, I keep on going just so I can see them reconcile after this is all over. Or go back to watching when certain tracks are over. And I am pretty sure this is exactly what the makers intend to too. That is why they give such lollipop scenes which has zero impact on the characters' personality.

3) The beautiful personalities which the characters were shown to possess initially: A male lead who isn't an emotionally unavailable macho and who does know how to shed tears when things go down for him. A female lead who don't care about age of the doers but just knows that wrong is wrong and it needs to be called out, who truly has brilliant comebacks, and who never back downs from pointing out the truth even if it might be harsh on some. These two characters were for me really fresh when it comes to itv serials. So, now, when their characters are so ruined, I can't help but feel sympathetic for them and just have this wishful thinking that maybe one day things would get better.

All these added up which lead to me again and again using compelx human behaviours to excuse all their acts. It made me feel like these characters actually had depths when it doesn't exist. We continue to again and again analyse, whether it be characters or the episode itself, not realising that there is nothing to be analysed. The makers have put zero thoughts on characters and the storyline and still we continue to give them benefit of the doubt.

However, now I know better than that. And tbh I feel really bad for not correcting myself before. However, there is still one thing which this serial has given me. It has given me a motivation to write stories. It has given me characters (not the current ones) which makes me want to imagine and write scenarios. And for that I will always be thankful, though more to IF and this lovely forum people than to the actual makers.

I would also like to point out, that for most entertainment is a sort of escape, and if this serial helps them in any way then there is nothing wrong in that. I think the actual word would be guilty pleasure. This serial thrives off by being a guilty pleasure for most.

PS: Do read my post though: https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/ghum-hai-kisikey-pyaar-meiin/5250687/what-the-heck-is-even-happening-in-this-show-anymore

PSS: I wrote a story "Cut us and we all bleed, my love" which was sort of a challenge for me, and while I am quite, not completely though, satisfied with how it turned out (because of all the lovely folks who read and commented and liked itsmiley31) I won't consider this my favourite story of all because for me, I just feel like, the relationship which I had potrayed was not a healthy one, but still it was something which I had wanted to try.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: oblivious_soul

Domestic abuse, also called "domestic violence" or "intimate partner violence", can be defined as a pattern of behavior in any relationship that is used to gain or maintain power and control over an intimate partner. Abuse is physical, sexual, emotional, economic or psychological actions or threats of actions that influence another person. This includes any behaviors that frighten, intimidate, terrorize, manipulate, hurt, humiliate, blame, injure, or wound someone. Domestic abuse can happen to anyone of any race, age, sexual orientation, religion, or gender. It can occur within a range of relationships including couples who are married, living together or dating. Domestic violence affects people of all socioeconomic backgrounds and education levels"

What happens at Chavan Nivas is domestic violence. The conditions which Sai is subjected to by her in laws and husband is called domestic violence. Samrat addressing it as it was hopeful though there isnt going to be any resolution. The pattern right from Pulkit lunch track is a cycle of abuse. I often see domestic violence trivialized as regular couple fights on this forum. Some go on to extent of equating Sai and Virats mistakes when one of them is clearly doing a crime. The reasoning is non existent. The ship ceased existing the very first day he committed domestic violence.

Evidence

  • Embarrass or make fun of you in front of your friends or family?- Ajinkya incident, cafe incident
  • Make you feel like you are unable to make decisions?- constantly age shaming her, assuming her responsibility as a guardian at his convenience
  • Use intimidation or threats to gain compliance?- locking her up, manhandling, threat on self harm
  • Tell you that you are nothing without them?- Too many dialouges in 300 episodes that implied the same
  • Treat you roughly—grab, push, pinch, shove or hit you?- Virat is a pro at manhandling
  • Blame you for how they feel or act?- Blamed her for locking up drama
  • Prevent you from doing things you want – like spending time with friends or family?- placing restrictions on her movement- PD drama and recent pooja one
  • Try to keep you from leaving after a fight or leave you somewhere after a fight to “teach you a lesson”?- I dont think I need to give egs

A few of other indicators

  • Sometimes feel scared of how your partner may behave?- Sai fearing for being seen with Ajinkya in her room
  • Constantly make excuses to other people for your partner’s behaviour? Sai giving excuses for Virats behavior to her friends
  • Believe that you can help your partner change if only you changed something about yourself?- Sai trying to mould herself into Chavan Nivas and Virats ideals. Her bring constanly compared with Pakhi by them
  • Try not to do anything that would cause conflict or make your partner angry?- Innumerable examples
  • Stay with your partner because you are afraid of what your partner would do if you broke up?- Virat threatening to commit suicide when she was leaving

Not gonna mention other members crimes towards Sai- they all practice domestic violence.


Very important question- Why is domestic violence inflicted on a teenager romanticized as complex writing and shit


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I am one such survivor. I know how it is to survive and prove DV legally.

ITV often push it under the carpet by trying to romaticize it or show honeymoon cycle of saying sorry and doing cutesy things.

Very rarely do peeps change without therapy or revamp of thinking

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