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Posted: 4 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: inlieu

But she was like this with him since the first meeting, never submissive. He's changed since then but she hasn't. Why are people surprised? She's behaving true to her character here. Or is it that people aren't like this aspect of her character that they forgot during the falling in love/romance track?

Even in the track with Keerti/Mandaar's accident, she was very aggressive. She does this because she knows she can. With the Ds, none of this happens. This double standard has bothered people from day 1 and still bothers them. No change there.

He has given her a LOT of time to ease into this relationship since the redemption started, but she hasn't done the same. She needs to now, otherwise she will push him into the darkness and cause more suffering. She has touched a nerve and isn't showing sensitivity to how money is connected to his trauma. She understands superficially but has yet to go into the depth and this is what many viewers want from her, that she at least genuinely tries. We're not seeing this from her. Not in this track and not in previous one too.

Very well written Jean. This is the problem people like me have with Pallavi. Her moral high handedness annoys me but it's her insensitivity towards Raghav's feelings it what angers me to the extent of not wanting to see her face. It's been like that from day 1 and I am done with her.
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Posted: 4 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yeah but heat of the moment doesn't cut it. She knows how he suffered when he was blamed for the deaths in his family and that he still carries that burden. Accusing him of Abhishek's death is like shoving him into quicksand. Very insensitive. I just can't believe she is failing to adequately link his present activities and mindset to his past.


In her bid to save him from going to jail, or from being harmed she s pushing him far away from herself n when pushed beyond limits tragedies strike in life. I hope they don't have to learn d hard way..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu

But she was like this with him since the first meeting, never submissive. He's changed since then but she hasn't. Why are people surprised? She's behaving true to her character here. Or is it that people aren't liking this aspect of her character that they forgot during the falling in love/romance track?

Even in the track with Keerti/Mandaar's accident, she was very aggressive. She does this because she knows she can. With the Ds, none of this happens. This double standard has bothered people from day 1 and still bothers them. No change there.

He has given her a LOT of time to ease into this relationship since the redemption started, but she hasn't done the same. She needs to now, otherwise she will push him into the darkness and cause more suffering. She has touched a nerve and isn't showing sensitivity to how money is connected to his trauma. She understands superficially but has yet to go into the depth and this is what many viewers want from her, that she at least genuinely tries. We're not seeing this from her. Not in this track and not in previous one too.

Agreed

Makers always give her heavy dialogues but when it comes to walking on that path she takes her step back.

Where as raghav s more of a person who does what he says. If he says i understand u he proves it by doing.

But she lacks there.


N lets not go to her double standards with d fam. Let's don't walk on d path which leads to quarrel 🤞🤞🤞🤞

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: MHRW99

She doesnot deserve bashing for this … poor girl .. that’s very sad !! Some people can’t differentiate between reel and real … yesterday people were bashing Raghav saying how can he say Pallavi is with him for money .. yaar come on .. it’s a story chill maaro yaar !!! Total abuse of social media is what I would say !!!

Coming to the story nothing is right or wrong .. it’s each one pov

I feel time will heal things and they have to find a mid path .. I’m sure they will come out stronger !!


I like d fact that both d characters are flawed. No mahan character shown.

So both have a long way to go before they learn stuff.

Hopefully they learn it wih least amount of damage n with least amount of bloodshed.


But i m totally agains her blaming him for abhishek death period. Whatever may be her reasons. She never once blamed d ACP. y harshness with Raghav.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikkiGarg

you are not alone. even I did rant on discussion thread. see 👇

Agree for everyone there s a free reign from her but with Raghav she wants all to be white. Whole d fam s stark black that s fine. She can ignore but y can't she ignore his flaws. Even if she wants to change him there s a way but here she s outright blaming him for murder while all he did was to employ that boy n despite telling him to save his life first that boy was killed feel sad for that boy but this s entirely ACP fault. Whatever d circumstance u never do an encounter in a smuggling case.

She wasn't taken into charge pallavi didn't even take her name.

I don know. But makers always make her stand in d line of fire i don like it. For once they can show her trying to see his side of story genuinly.


She says she s trying but it looks hollow no efforts in that regard from her.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shivi.forever

This s not to bash anyone. It s purely my point of view.


See we all know that raghav walks on ways which are grey. Which s wrong.

But,,


THERE S NOTHING FULLY WHITE OR FULLY BLACK IN LIFE WE ARE ALL A SHADE OF GREY.

so thoda he ll modify thoda she ll modify. Gaadi patri pe lane k liye efforts should be from both sides.

See makers have already shown her as a flawed female lead thankfully,🙏🤞

To ab jab makers ne ye dikhaya hai she s blind to all d fam faults n shortcomings she can be d same with anna. He has not killed anyone per se. But yeahdue to his work someone has lost their life. It s like an occupational Hazzard sort of situation. N all d guys who work for him are all aware of the danger that lurks in the background with their work, anything can happen at any time so it s not entirely his fault. But yeah he contributes to the major chunk. N in suchcases encounter s not done. So the entire blame lies on ACP laxmi but pallavi s selectively blind doesn't want to see sense. Can't help.

But yeah i m sure she ll come around. N regarding changing a person . I don't agree with changing a person coz u can never change anyone internally how they r. They might reform but changing s not possible. Coz a person's character n personality s built on experience n lessons learners from life.

This was my rant. Plz drop ur comments.

Flying chappal joote tomato anda sab welcome hai. Par report mat karna forum team walon ko,🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

I agree with you. Her conversation with Aai was her realization that it wasn’t Raghav’s fault that abhishek died. He knew what he was doing etc so she understands that. Her rant started when she got home and raghav in his drunk state tells her about money being everything and you need money for this and that etc. So she was hurt and assumed that money is more important to raghav than even her which at that time anyone would be hurt. I put myself in her shoes and my husband tells me he values money more, ofcourse i would be mad. She brings him to bed when he collapses. Next day they dont say anything but he is mad at her for something so he doesnt talk to her. She overhears harish going to jail for raghav to be free and that pisses her off because someone took the blame for Raghav. Once again she realizes that Raghav’s work is dangerous. One person died and she let that go and now someone went to jail for him and how can they be so calm about it. He tells her i didnt ask u to change, why do u want me to change and that i will not change, not even for u. Once again that would hurt. This time it was said in poore hosh aur hawaaz no drunk state. She still took it and tried to talk to him and explain that money is not everything. Like she said to her aai, she knows raghav has led a tough life and hasnt had love from anyone when he was young so money is what mattered and helped him. She wants to show him that he has love and she wants to change his perception on life. I totally get that. She didnt say she wants to change him.

Yeah she is doing a lot of bashan but ofcourse its an itv serial and if she doesnt then we have no reason for raghav to be angry so they have to show her being persistant.

Also i feel that she doesnt want to change him perse….more so his outlook on life. She wants him to value life more than money. He doesn’t understand that yet as he is not willing to listen. That statement that the day he changes will be his last day…that hurt! She is not asking to change him but maybe she needs to be more clear. The dialogue writers need to make her bashan a bit more straightforward and clear. If she wants him to leave his illegal ways or change him or change his outlook on life where love and family should be above all.

Right now they have mixed up all three ans i feel like thats where Raghav is probably confused too😂. Anyway I literally just thought of this as i was writing this. Lol.

Also just my opinion, i think they are making him very angry. They need to show a raghav in love together with anger. Right now there is nothing remotely close to love i see. He has been angry with pallavi for keerti issue with no communication about that and now this. Then they throw in a small here feed me as its your repayment lollipop scene to please us Ans everything is hawa me filter. I dont like that.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#37

According to me Raghav should change of only if he wants to change ...


Pallavi should not just say change change. ..

Why should he change.. Is the question from him...

If Pallavi is clearly state why he needs to be change

the change should be from him ... Not by means of compulsion...


Raghav is not wrong either he is right on his view.. As he has his own past which made him so...


And if Pallavi behaves same with D family I have no issues.. ...


Pallavi says she is trying see from Raghav pov... But she is not Taking any efforts simply she says that she lost the trust. ...

But it is indeed kind of irritating me and Raghav both with her lectures...

She need to melow down...



I really don't want the end of the track to be on sided they both should understand each other perspective and should come out as one......



The dialogue of Raghav if Raghav has changed then it is last day...


Yup it will be and new Raghav will be

BTW I really don't have any hopes that Pallavi will understand Raghav as usual they will make Raghav act according to Pallavi

So no expectations


If the Cvs Fail in this track iam sure I will done with show. . 😈

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Posted: 4 years ago
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BTW raghav is not wrong.. He has some value to Money

But he is man for who the family is most important..he will die for for his family but he will not let anything happen to them....


That is where he stands unique ...

Money indeed matters for life Pallavi should first understand Raghav that he is not behind money but he is doing this everything for his family.


So the dialogue of Pallavi abt raghav choosing money over her.. Irked me a lot.. 😡

When will she understand Raghav... ????

I wanted to see Smart Pallavi not a andh bakth Pallavi..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shivi.forever

Agreed

Makers always give her heavy dialogues but when it comes to walking on that path she takes her step back.

Where as raghav s more of a person who does what he says. If he says i understand u he proves it by doing.

But she lacks there.


N lets not go to her double standards with d fam. Let's don't walk on d path which leads to quarrel 🤞🤞🤞🤞

Exactly...

I don't know if it is the producer's fault , the directors, the writers or dialogue writers fault...but since last couple of tracks she is becoming more and more annoying...

In Mandar track which ideally was about her and her past..raghav insecurities, his fears, his anguish , were clearly visible, they were well defined and well conveyed and we, the audience were able to relate to him and understand his pain where as pallavi's misplaced farz and insaniyat rant , her apparent fear about loosing raghav which we never never felt till she herself said, were not visible, her perception , her thoughts were not clear and not brought on to screen..so no one could sympathise with her , infact she looked more insensitive to the most including me...

And now in this track...

Actually the audience should have hated Raghav being a grey charcter, stubborn , strong headed, making money through wrong means , completely opposite to the ITV MLs and should have loved Pallavi , the aadarsh, principled woman with values and ethics, she should have been the audience favourite but her moral science lectures, heavy dialogues, are getting on nerve , repelling her...

Even in this track , I am still are able to relate to raghav, understand his pov, there is this clarity of thoughts....his thought process , his mindset ,his reasons for what he is doing irrespective of being right or wrong are well defined and clear and it is coming out on the screen through his dialogues, through his actions, through his conversation, ...we know why he is doing, what he is doing, what he is upto etc etc ..

Where as pallavi though her intention are not wrong because , no one wants a husband who is involved in some wrong activities, her wanting him to change his ways of doing business might be right too but the way it is being put across is making her look egoistic and stubborn, I am still confused, whether she wants him to change, whether she wants his ways to change

On one hand she says she is trying to understand him, but from her dialogues and actions it looks like she has already decided that he is a criminal and he needs to change to become her ideal husband....it looks like she has taken up a challenge and she wants to win at any cost...where as it should have looked like she loves him so much that she wants a beautiful life with him which under this constant threat of police and unlawful activities is not possible...

she is coming out as bossy who just wants to control her husband because she is always right, she is perfect and flawless where as her husband is a bad person, with a facade of being good ,some one who has been putting up an act to be in her good books...

Sorry just my POV..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Hi Sneha

Sry for the delay.

Why the disclaimer 🤣

I think makers are going to address both the issues this time. They both need to compromise and change for each other.

Pallavi feeling the danger his work put him and others is right to ask him to stop. She's been shown as a person with a high moral grounds. For her her values and principles holds very much imp, so much so that it's not realistic sometimes. While she questions and asks Raghav to change, Raghav too asks her why can't she accept him as he is. So it gives a way to how both of them needs to work on this and try to understand and compromise for each other.

Raghav on the other hand has gone ahead in his passion for power and money. He needs to understand teh risks of life involving in these activities. Earlier he was practically alone but now he has a family who loves him and care for him. He needs to know how damaging it will be if something happens to him for amma and Pallavi. So needs to tone it down and try to mend his ways..

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