Raghav Rao - Don with a heart. - Page 4

I am not going to get into the debate of right and wrong of his actions, words, emotions.

but i have to applaud the writers to actually show us this unabashed raghav.. this is the real raghav in all his glory.. the last three episode, the contradictions and the dichotomy shown in his chatacter and yet they are so seamless and so believable that it all co-exists in the same person..

this is the man who has been conditioned from childhood, due to circumstances , to believe that money is power. He wouldnt let his years of hardwork, sweat and probably sleepless nights to attain this success be questioned by values that are so textbook as he believes it.. he says money is everything and yet tells the boy that to hell with the diamonds, the golden rule is to save yourself and its all so believable when it is shown on screen. This is the real greyness in his character. Its interesting also that he says that he cannot replace the life lost but wants to give money to lessen one burden of the grieving family and also wants to extract a pound of flesh from the acp hearing about the death of his man! He was all so panicky and emotional seeing pallavi in that shaken state and just very practical and remorseless on hearing about the boy. It has been fascinating to watch him to not being boxed by the makers

the audience gets to decide what they want to take, what they want to leave. Or just sit back and watch where they take him without boxing him into the good boy-bad boy category.

it is also commendable that the writers are exploring this raghav at this point in the story when i feel the writers generally chicken out with the fear that such a ml will be accepted or not. This was one ml who wasnt given a sob story of a failed love story for his personality. He wasnt whitewashed for his past.. it was HIS mistake comitted that cost him his family and not just a poor misunderstood guy.

Am all curious to see where they take raghav’s graph. I hope they keep it all believable. Even if it means a tragic end to his character.. there is a beauty in tragedy as well.. BUT, the writers track record on execution has been on a downslide so having low expectations

This thread is on fire! Loving all the comments!

I'm itching to get back to my laptop.

You are right. People shouldn't glorify Raghav. Abhishek's death is on Raghav. And they shouldn't bash the ACP as well.

But, what the ACP did was morally, ethically and even legally wrong. She shouldn't have shot him like that in a busy market place full of civilians. That was incredibly rash of her. She had recieved a tip that he might possess the diamonds. She got carried away I think. He wasn't a suicide bomber or a terrorist that she had no other option but to shoot. She could've shot at his leg restricting his movement but she didn't.

I can't believe she missed. She is a trained and experienced police officer. The range of back to leg is a lot, the distance between them wasn't so huge too. And as an experienced officer working so long in the force she should've known that she cannot just do an encounter like that. That also of a person not directly linked to the crime.

So, I believe though Raghav is responsible for Abhishekh's death. ACP Singh is as much responsible if not more. Don't forget, the possibility of the police killing someone on the basis of an allegation of helping smuggler is ridiculous. Raghav might have thought the worst case might have been a remand home and the police leading up to him, not a death.

Yes there is a death and its irreversible damage! No money can compensate for a human life but there is not one but many guilty party here.

Raghav, I am highly conflicted. Because he did try to save Abhishek but at the same point of time, he is the one employing the likes of Abhishek. I won't say, the blame of abhishek's death is completely on his hands.

A friend today mentioned an analogy, that I would like to put forth here, if there's a leopard on loose and one is warned about it. Yet, the person chooses to venture into the dangerous territory and get killed. Who is to be blamed here? The forest rangers, the leopard or the careless victim?

Yet, Raghav is not completely spotless. Because he is not realizing and accepting the flaws in his ways and how it puts people at risk. He is a businessman and its common for a businessman to evade taxes. But there is a line that needs to be drawn and control on the whole greed for money and power.

Abhishek... I feel very very sorry for him. Tbh, forget Raghvi, I really felt a life was wasted here. He didn't deserve this. But he had made his choices. Maybe he started with financial pressures but soon fell into the trap for luxuries. The young blood in him, he brushed the warnings under the carpet, too confident of his skill. He was wrong and careless. How knew he was going to do something illegal and yet was very casual to the point that his phone battery died and he didn't care. I can equate him to Raghav Rao of 10 years back who fell for quick bucks offered by Krishna Rao. But Raghav Rao was no Krishna Rao to abandon his ally.

The ACP... she crossed all the limits here. Abhishek was no terrorist nor a hardcore criminal that could have proven a threat to the society. How could she commit an encounter there? It was a cold blooded murder! The boy could have been shot in the leg or arm to stop him. He had no weapon on him. And she just had a tip off. He could have been a wrong boy, the informant could have been mistaken, or anything like that. We respect honest inspectors but that doesn't mean a human life can be ended just like that. It was never her perogative so her carrying out an encounter is illegal. What she did, is infact gross violation of human right, against Indian constitution and crossing over an individual's basic fundamental right, right to live! She knew he was only a carrier and not the culprit... then on what grounds did she kill? I would say more than being honest, she was adamant of trying to prove her point here. She was so shrewd who couldn't even be empathetic.

As per the judicial system, a punishment cannot supercede the crime! And if police are so casual with encounters, I am afraid that our streets are going to be strewn with dead bodies and blood at each corner! Before Raghvi, such careless inspectors needs to be brought to justice.

Originally posted by: euphoric

Yes there is a death and its irreversible damage! No money can compensate for a human life but there is not one but many guilty party here.

Raghav, I am highly conflicted. Because he did try to save Abhishek but at the same point of time, he is the one employing the likes of Abhishek. I won't say, the blame of abhishek's death is completely on his hands.

A friend today mentioned an analogy, that I would like to put forth here, if there's a leopard on loose and one is warned about it. Yet, the person chooses to venture into the dangerous territory and get killed. Who is to be blamed here? The forest rangers, the leopard or the careless victim?

Yet, Raghav is not completely spotless. Because he is not realizing and accepting the flaws in his ways and how it puts people at risk. He is a businessman and its common for a businessman to evade taxes. But there is a line that needs to be drawn and control on the whole greed for money and power.

Abhishek... I feel very very sorry for him. Tbh, forget Raghvi, I really felt a life was wasted here. He didn't deserve this. But he had made his choices. Maybe he started with financial pressures but soon fell into the trap for luxuries. The young blood in him, he brushed the warnings under the carpet, too confident of his skill. He was wrong and careless. How knew he was going to do something illegal and yet was very casual to the point that his phone battery died and he didn't care. I can equate him to Raghav Rao of 10 years back who fell for quick bucks offered by Krishna Rao. But Raghav Rao was no Krishna Rao to abandon his ally.

The ACP... she crossed all the limits here. Abhishek was no terrorist nor a hardcore criminal that could have proven a threat to the society. How could she commit an encounter there? It was a cold blooded murder! The boy could have been shot in the leg or arm to stop him. He had no weapon on him. And she just had a tip off. He could have been a wrong boy, the informant could have been mistaken, or anything like that. We respect honest inspectors but that doesn't mean a human life can be ended just like that. It was never her perogative so her carrying out an encounter is illegal. What she did, is infact gross violation of human right, against Indian constitution and crossing over an individual's basic fundamental right, right to live! She knew he was only a carrier and not the culprit... then on what grounds did she kill? I would say more than being honest, she was adamant of trying to prove her point here. She was so shrewd who couldn't even be empathetic.

As per the judicial system, a punishment cannot supercede the crime! And if police are so casual with encounters, I am afraid that our streets are going to be strewn with dead bodies and blood at each corner! Before Raghvi, such careless inspectors needs to be brought to justice.

Soni 🤗 tu aa gayi

On point post. I agree 100 percent. They need to keep some margin for his redemption. Raghav's heart is in the right place but now he needs to mend his ways to suit what he wants in his life.

Originally posted by: Viewpoint

This thread is on fire! Loving all the comments!

I'm itching to get back to my laptop.

Thank you for starting it!

It's been a while since we last had a topic on the show that led to such discussions.

Enjoyed reading your views on the topic Sonia.. Im at work right now so will keep it short because of time crunch. At the start, lemme just put it out that Im so so excited for this track..its very promising so I really hope they have written a good, solid script for this one..this is a track that I don't mind running a bit longer. Would love to see their individual journey in flashbacks. They are two very contrasting personalities with very different belief system, principles and ideologies, conditioned very differently over time.. they each stand very firmly on their ground so it'd be very interesting to see this clash.. Coming to the points you raised, here's what i feel..

1. I agree ACP has been very irresponsible and Im glad they have set up an enquiry to question her. This is what you'd expect. I said the same thing yesterday.. she could've shot him at his leg to stop him from running if she absolutely had to.. but I guess, writers wanted RaghVi's stalemate situation over SunKee wedding fiasco to end this way..Pallavi going into a shock at witnessing a shootout triggered Raghav to lose his anger and be by her side.. so even though Im sad for Abhishek, Im happy that we have moved on from grumpy Raghav.. Also, diamond smuggling and tax evasion though both crimes do not hold much of a weight to create a major clash between Raghav and Pallavi as the same crimes with a death associated with it would..? Now with Abhishek's death, a young guy Pallavi personally knew, its like a personal loss to her ..even if she didn't know him, a death and that too of a young boy is devastating.. so she will be even more shattered when she comes to know that it was Raghav, who he was working for..

2. Tax evasion is a crime.. simple or not, done by everyone or not.. ACP overstepped yes but the matter still calls for investigation and accountability. I don't think even Raghav would try to defend his actions by saying ''Its a simple tax evasion not a murder'' yes you're not killing someone but by not paying your taxes you are robbing the revenue of your country that is spend on its development and infrastructure. Good thing is that he doesn't defend his actions by downplaying its severity but by saying that its a necessary evil to survive and flourish in this age.. if you don't do it, someone else would and I don't want to be left out because I wanna value some text book principles that don't give me my bread and butter.. He is a ruthless, hardcore businessman who has learnt the tricks of the trade the hard way..but even when bending rules he has some that he doesn't compromise on and that's why he is a Don with a heart !

Amazing thread Kiara!

Originally posted by: joliefemme

I'm on board with most of the points you've made here. The business is illegal but it's no risk to life. Even in that Raghav was clear to chose life over the diamonds. It has never happened in the past.

Here, had the ACP not overreacted by shooting, this would not have happened. Even Abhishek for that matter should have surrendered than running from police (may be he didn't anticipate that he'd be killed). So I put the maximum blame on the ACP and then Abhishek coz their choices led to this. But I'm not certain (right now I'm still too conflicted) that I can absolve Raghav completely.

It was an honest mistake but there's no denying that a life was lost. Someone who was young, had dreams and hopes and aspirations in life. Nothing anyone says or does will bring it back. It's irreversible. In fact Keerti marriage to sunny can be reversed but not this. Raghav can't turn the clock back on as he asked Pallavi during sunkee marriage track.

Raghav is the owner of tbe business. Risky or not, he intended to cause harm or not, nothing changes the facts.

Can we equate this to an accident which takes a life? It is involuntary manslaughter. May not be entirely but I'm still not convinced about the level of burden that Raghav should carry. It is highly subjective topic and that is what worries me most. While we and raghav may feel he's not at fault, amma and Pallavi will blame him. There's a reason Pallavi had to witness the death and the victim was known to her. It makes things more difficult for Raghvi.

@ bold: Exactly my point too…he was the employer…ACP is wrong for shooting an unarmed suspect…Abishek is wrong for putting himself in this place voluntarily…so is Raghav!!! He is also wrong in indulging ppl in his illegal business which could put them in danger…

if Raghav is not responsible for Abishek’s death then how can he hold Krishna Rao responsible for his Father & Brothers death…why does he hate Krishna Rao.. Krishna Rao did not kill his father & brother…Krishna Rao used Raghav the same way Raghav used Abishek…when ppl got robbed by Krishna Rao they attacked Raghav’s family killing his father & brother coz Raghav worked for Krishna Rao…

He can’t hold Krishna Rao responsible for his father & brother’s death but see Abishek’s death as just collateral damage…that’s double standards…

Originally posted by: Anu1975

@ bold: Exactly my point too…he was the employer…ACP is wrong for shooting an unarmed suspect…Abishek is wrong for putting himself in this place voluntarily…so is Raghav!!! He is also wrong in indulging ppl in his illegal business which could put them in danger…

if Raghav is not responsible for Abishek’s death then how can he hold Krishna Rao responsible for his Father & Brothers death…why does he hate Krishna Rao.. Krishna Rao did not kill his father & brother…Krishna Rao used Raghav the same way Raghav used Abishek…when ppl got robbed by Krishna Rao they attacked Raghav’s family killing his father & brother coz Raghav worked for Krishna Rao…

He can’t hold Krishna Rao responsible for his father & brother’s death but see Abishek’s death as just collateral damage…that’s double standards…

Raghav is at fault but he can still be absolved because this business normally would never lead to death - arrest may be not death.

Ok let me try and justify how Raghav and Krishna are different.

Krishna Rao played with the emotions of a 17 yr old whi didn't know what he was getting into. Here everyone involved is an adult and knows what they are doing.

Krishna looted the hard earned money of middle class people using Raghav's naivety but Raghav is cheating the system which is what is usually done by businessmen. He's not cheating the public of their hard earned money

Krishna doesn't have a moral compass and hence let Raghav take the fall for his crimes. Raghav won't do that. He will do whatever he can to make things better.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Raghav is at fault but he can still be absolved because this business normally would never lead to death - arrest may be not death.

Ok let me try and justify how Raghav and Krishna are different.

Krishna Rao played with the emotions of a 17 yr old whi didn't know what he was getting into. Here everyone involved is an adult and knows what they are doing.

Krishna looted the hard earned money of middle class people using Raghav's naivety but Raghav is cheating the system which is what is usually done by businessmen. He's not cheating the public of their hard earned money

Krishna doesn't have a moral compass and hence let Raghav take the fall for his crimes. Raghav won't do that. He will do whatever he can to make things better.

I agree with most of your views..but just because his unethical ways didn’t endanger anyone in the past cannot absolve him of engaging in the crime itself right…does Abishek deserve death? NO..is he responsible…YES because he consented to do a job which led to his death..same way Does Raghav deserve the blame NO but he is responsible cause he employed Abishek in a job which led to his death…Raghav may not be legally accountable but morally & ethically he is…