Feeling very disheartened for Pallavi, DT Note pge 23 - Page 7

Samreen, thank you so much for speaking up yaar. You are so strong for coming up with a post everytime you feel something needs to be called out. Because I feel so exhausted to even make a comment right now.

Victim blaming is absolute trash and I don’t know what more can I say. Anybody who could have been convinced, would be convinced with your post itself. And I am sure there are many sane comments in the thread, though I haven’t read all of it.

If she is saying No, that means No. Absence of verbal consent is absence of consent. Period. If people want to go like they would have done this or that instead had they been in Pallavi’s position- then it’s a very flawed reasoning, which is exactly what we call victim blaming. Everybody reacts differently. Especially when it comes to harassment- people do freeze. It’s very real. To blame the victim is beyond toxic.

Sorry for my disorganised thoughts. Going through a brain freeze right now reading some very unpleasant comments.

Again, thank you so much. You are admirable. ❤️

Seriously yar! It wasn't good!

Matalb how can Mandar do that?

Pallavi, i can feel her yar! Those emotions, the fear, anger, restlessness and helplessness! God she was so scared to do anything!

She wasn't in state to do anything, to fight with him, she was numb! And to be honest any girl in her place would feel the same!

Upar se fans jashan manate hai ke yahi hona chahiye, karma hit her, she deserves this treatment....like seriously? I just can't stand with this mentality! Jahan log ek aurat ke sath assualt ho raha hai and aap jashan mana re ho!

Too much negativity, too much bashing and trolling,.....this is the reason I don't visit MF... Apne bas ki baat nahi unn logo se argue krna, jinko samne wali ki sunni nahi, or end mein sirf yeh keh dete hain it's just a post!

Originally posted by: partner

It's not Pallavi, it's the writers who sketch her character, which has gone down the drain.

2-3 weeks back, the makers tried to show Pallavi's farz etc, that time fans were not happy as Pallavi is not using her brains, and end up missing Raghav award function.

After that, makers change track, Pallavi got her brains back, her smartness return.

The past 2 episode, again her brain has gone, firstly she did not recognize her husband, and today she froze, its understandable the incident shook her, but this is ITV, we like our MHRW cause the female lead are strong, not timid.

We are not looking at the logic, we just want to see an intense love story, with passion, loving each other to the core. Hence we expected, infact still expecting Pallavi recognizes her husband (even though now there is a very slim chance) even though her actions shows otherwise, but still hoping the makers gives a some sort of explanation maybe.

If it's the writers then why only pall bashing every single time..

Agree they messed up big time with all the characters in order to show something ..

But aren't they trying hard enough to work it out...

Every single epi doesn't go without pointing defects and bashing pall..

And I can't beleive ppl are still sticking on Pall not recognising Raghav, it's to show that his disguise is working..

And her not understanding his touch or smell.. ppl may vary from each other, and lastly CV wanted her to not recognise it that's it..

You may not do the bashing but I am talking generally..

This over all neg atmosphere is very upsetting

We know Pallavi was shaken today, like she didn't know how to react, totally numb. So there is justified, but her not recognizing Raghav, even though it requires certain level of intimacy, but the fact we watch ITV not really for logic, just to get lost and enjoy in the tvland with the couple. It's like, we know if anyone marries a person forcible, in reality, no one will be like Pallavi and its wrong but we like the character, the actor, the story, thats why we watch it, not to find any logic.

The famous ITV couple, Geet-Maan, RK-Madhubala, Arnav-Khushi, where they the best male lead? It was ITV, a passionate love story, that's what we liked.

We see Raghav-Pallavi the same way, so it was disappointing to see Pallavi not recognizing Raghav.

Somewhere still I'm hoping tomorrow episode will be uplifting, and at least they show Pallavi recognized Raghav.

Originally posted by: Radiant_Eyes_

Few wanted Mandaar to assault Pallavi so that she understands how vile he is and feels grateful to have Raghav, falls at his feet and apologises .

Look ! Today’s your day 🥳 enjoy 😉

Expecting assault for a woman or a person, even if she or he is fictional is so damn sick. So damn freaking sick.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Reposting from other thread, as a general message to everyone, not just topic maker:

One more thing: as a woman I find it unbelievable that some people expect a woman (or even a man) to behave in a certain way when someone tries to abuse them mentally, physically, emotionally, or sexually. Human beings are different and react differently in various situations. Not everyone instinctively fights back and not everyone runs away. Being paralyzed by fear is a real thing. Many people here drool over the leads chemistry in the first pallu wiping scene but she was paralyzed by fear then too. She didn't fight back or run away. He could have done anything horrible to her on that deserted road but because we knew he'd be the hero we weren't worried, but she didn't. It goes to show that many times people are more at risk from someone they know than from outsiders. Mandaar is an example.

Don't complain about getting fed up of mahaan or superhero FL or MLs in EK or other shows if you are going to expect the same nature in our leads too. These two don't have all the answers and in times of stress people make mistakes or get confused about how to respond. So tired of the constant bashing of Pallavi or Raghav or both. Or even the CVS for that matter.

And for those who think what Mandaar did today was only about crossing limits/lust/sexual abuse, you really need to go and watch the scene properly to understand what was going on at a whole other level.

To Pallavi fans, I know you are upset about the victim shaming that's going on in general here. It happens in real life and it's happening here too, which is such a shame. I wish the same amount of energy would be spent on bashing the real culprits Mandaar, Sanki, Ved, and Sunny.

To everyone in general:

I wasn't on the forum in the early days but when Anjali drugged and abused Raghav, did people here victim shame him too instead of raging at her? Technically she deserves to be in jail just like Mandaar does.

And why is no one bashing Jaya for what she did and said today to Keerti? You don't see that as problematic?

Thank you Jean

You said it all...

Why it's always victim blaming,I want to see uproar for Mandar but here why every one is blaming pall

The points you have raised 👏

Pall was definitely hell- scared on that deserted road.. she was scared of Raghav untill she sensed he is no harm..

Seriously that scene gave me goosebumps Shivangi's performance was phenomenal..

Even after almost cheating her fiancee and drugging RR and God knows what done with him Anjali is in good memories of everyone..

I seriously wanted to discuss about it ...

Jaya and Raghav practically stopped her against her will..

I know the intentions are good but there is a way to handle things but infront of Pall everything is bhool bhool

Originally posted by: partner

We know Pallavi was shaken today, like she didn't know how to react, totally numb. So there is justified, but her not recognizing Raghav, even though it requires certain level of intimacy, but the fact we watch ITV not really for logic, just to get lost and enjoy in the tvland with the couple. It's like, we know if anyone marries a person forcible, in reality, no one will be like Pallavi and its wrong but we like the character, the actor, the story, thats why we watch it, not to find any logic.

The famous ITV couple, Geet-Maan, RK-Madhubala, Arnav-Khushi, where they the best male lead? It was ITV, a passionate love story, that's what we liked.

We see Raghav-Pallavi the same way, so it was disappointing to see Pallavi not recognizing Raghav.

Somewhere still I'm hoping tomorrow episode will be uplifting, and at least they show Pallavi recognized Raghav.

bold : because raghav and pallavi are different. They have their own story to tell , their own characteristics , their own flaws. Why they need to copy the past couples of itv

Its a good in a way that makers are not following cliche romantic troupe of these couple. They are trying to bring something unique even it is female lead not recognising the touch of male lead.

passionate love story can have many definitions and it is a much broader term. It can be different for me , for you and it can be entirely different for sickand who is making the show

Sorry for saying this but all the iconic couples you mentioned above had the male lead mishandling female lead lost of the times and female lead used to do heavy breathing in intimate scenes.

Raghav too had intimated pallavi but he hasn't been ever physical with her except one or two instances and pallavi never shied away from showing her love to raghav. That's what make them different

Originally posted by: Owia

And the worse part is that due to pallavi's characterization , people are attacking Shivangi . The other day i saw a comment on the bts pic post of Veena - it said that replace the lead actress because she doesnt know how to act , specially in romantic scenes and the heavy breathing wasnt there which is a cliche thing if serials are concerned . Really yaar aisa karke show ko hi show ko duba denge.

Seriously ...

Ppl say all these things,

Shivangi is always on the target... What she has done to deserve this..

She gives her all to the show still ppl are not satisfied ..

Heavy breathing and sharmana - looks like some sin is taking place instead of romance ..

Originally posted by: partner

We know Pallavi was shaken today, like she didn't know how to react, totally numb. So there is justified, but her not recognizing Raghav, even though it requires certain level of intimacy, but the fact we watch ITV not really for logic, just to get lost and enjoy in the tvland with the couple. It's like, we know if anyone marries a person forcible, in reality, no one will be like Pallavi and its wrong but we like the character, the actor, the story, thats why we watch it, not to find any logic.

The famous ITV couple, Geet-Maan, RK-Madhubala, Arnav-Khushi, where they the best male lead? It was ITV, a passionate love story, that's what we liked.

We see Raghav-Pallavi the same way, so it was disappointing to see Pallavi not recognizing Raghav.

Somewhere still I'm hoping tomorrow episode will be uplifting, and at least they show Pallavi recognized Raghav.

Arnav Kushi? Where the male manhandles the female convinently? If that's romantic, then I'm sorry to say this show is not meant for illogical romance. They have been breaking the stereotypical cliches ever since the beginning and that's the reason why we are choosing to criticize the loopholes.

Nobody recognises anybody with touch that quickly. Antaryami nehi hai Pallavi. Sometimes even we fail to recognise our partner, friend or family members. For somebody who has been shaken by Mandaar touching Pallavi, she would flinch even to the touch of her closed ones. How dare we expect her to recognise Raghav like that? And she is in a state where she cannot think par the situation that she is trapped in. Why should she recognise? Raghav has all the mettle to fool her around to have fun but not say that he is Raghav, her husband?

Intimacy is not in touching or feeling the sparks in touches, sharing intense eye locks, hugging and kissing.

Intimacy is in giving emotinal security and understanding what the person is going through. Raghav has been quite a lot intimate for the past two episodes so much enough that Pallavi is shaken with groundless emotional support.

We see Pallavi Raghav the same way and that's why Raghav's simple action of not revealing his identity by crapping down her personal space is disappointing.