What if Sunny didn’t help Virat? - Page 4

Originally posted by: laksh

And yet Virat said that he didn’t correct the yoga instructor because it was true in the past 🤦‍♀️. He is definitely crazy. Will bash him sometime now, please disregard the post if I do so since I know that you don’t like bashing both of them 🤣🤣.

I am looking forward to reading your take! I wrote about the yoga instructor in another post in this thread and tagged you! It's not that I don't like bashing them... I just try to understand where they are coming from instead 🤣

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Actually Virat said woh tab ki bat tha aur sach tha.. regarding Yoga instructor’s words when Sai said he did not oppose her.

I think Virat is referring to the scenes mentioned by that lady ..Pakhi dancing and falling,him saving etc.

But Sai thought he is saying that regarding their love ..

Am I wrong here in my understanding ?

Please clarify..

It was the most insensitive thing to say. He is talking to his wife who looked so disturbed by that and yet he chose to say that he didn’t stop her or deny because all that she was telling was truth. Whether it is love or anything that he said, who would say that? He was the same person who was trying to find what Sai feels for him and was having doubts that Sai also has feelings for him. He was the same person who was told by Sunny that Sai grew angry only because she is bothered with his and Pakhi’s friendship and yet he failed to connect the dots when Sai was crying in pain mentioning about what the yoga instructor had said. Instead of making her feel better, he made her feel worse by telling that it was the truth.

He told after that person left as to not get hurt or think bad about what that person had said since it was all in the past. All he wants to say was that it was all his past and in the process of trying to tell her that Pakhi was his past and he has nothing to do with it now, he didn’t even think how it would come across to Sai when he said that he didn’t correct because it was the truth. Past or not, he should have stopped that person from speaking all those crap. Who can hear all this about their partner? He expects Sai to understand that he didn’t stop her because it was the truth? Didn’t he think that by speaking this way he is only spoiling everything between them? He wants Sai to understand him, understand his feelings, he couldn’t even share about his past to her, has felt uncomfortable talking about it, accepting it and yet he tells Sai he didn’t stop because that was the truth 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️.

That person commented on their chemistry which Sai had also pointed out bitterly in pain. She had spoken how they both looked good together and were meant for each other and how hurting could it be. Had she misunderstood that Pakhi is whom he is with even now, that was different. Why can’t Virat think how Sai would be feeling when she heard those? He didn’t think after that person said and couldn’t even think when Sai brought it up too? He gets so much drowned in his own emotions and clarifications that he turns blind to her issues, her emotions. Only if he can see what her problem is will he ever be able to make any amends between them. He always fails in this aspect.

Well said laksh 🤗

Virat ke liye past is past hai woh present mein jeeta hai.but sai keliye past ka clear hona important hai sai rishte mein honest hai usko rishtey mein milawat pasand nahi hai ...

Sai virat ke past ke sàath jee rahi hai jo ek muqa nahi Jane de ti pather marne ka sai par 😡

Virat ko chahiye woh sab clear kare.

Originally posted by: laksh

It was the most insensitive thing to say. He is talking to his wife who looked so disturbed by that and yet he chose to say that he didn’t stop her or deny because all that she was telling was truth. Whether it is love or anything that he said, who would say that? He was the same person who was trying to find what Sai feels for him and was having doubts that Sai also has feelings for him. He was the same person who was told by Sunny that Sai grew angry only because she is bothered with his and Pakhi’s friendship and yet he failed to connect the dots when Sai was crying in pain mentioning about what the yoga instructor had said. Instead of making her feel better, he made her feel worse by telling that it was the truth.

He told after that person left as to not get hurt or think bad about what that person had said since it was all in the past. All he wants to say was that it was all his past and in the process of trying to tell her that Pakhi was his past and he has nothing to do with it now, he didn’t even think how it would come across to Sai when he said that he didn’t correct because it was the truth. Past or not, he should have stopped that person from speaking all those crap. Who can hear all this about their partner? He expects Sai to understand that he didn’t stop her because it was the truth? Didn’t he think that by speaking this way he is only spoiling everything between them? He wants Sai to understand him, understand his feelings, he couldn’t even share about his past to her, has felt uncomfortable talking about it, accepting it and yet he tells Sai he didn’t stop because that was the truth 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️.

That person commented on their chemistry which Sai had also pointed out bitterly in pain. She had spoken how they both looked good together and were meant for each other and how hurting could it be. Had she misunderstood that Pakhi is whom he is with even now, that was different. Why can’t Virat think how Sai would be feeling when she heard those? He didn’t think after that person said and couldn’t even think when Sai brought it up too? He gets so much drowned in his own emotions and clarifications that he turns blind to her issues, her emotions. Only if he can see what her problem is will he ever be able to make any amends between them. He always fails in this aspect.

@bolded: This is exactly what the crux of the problem is! But now he is going to retreat into his own shell and be overcome with yet even more emotions... so I'm unsure if we will ever get to see him truly understanding how this entire mess is impacting Sai...

Originally posted by: tptwi

@bolded: This is exactly what the crux of the problem is! But now he is going to retreat into his own shell and be overcome with yet even more emotions... so I'm unsure if we will ever get to see him truly understanding how this entire mess is impacting Sai...

That is so not right. People say Virat should ignore Sai and not do anything for her and all. I would say that rather than him doing any of those, he should first try to understand Sai, try to understand what’s bothering her, what her issue is. If at all anything is ever going to help him or their relationship, it is only the understanding that they can develop for each other. Both have to think. Now that Sai had started to think and also is questioning that Virat never did anything to show that Pakhi isn’t anyone to him, she should start thinking more about it. I want Virat too to do the same because so far, he hasn’t thought about it. Every time he has got doubts after what Sunny told him, he has only tried to probe her to think, tried to make her accept her feelings but he hasn’t really tried to see her hurt, tried to understand what’s bothering her. It was so clearly visible today and yet he couldn’t see that 🤦‍♀️. She understands that he gets jealous but he couldn’t? She thinks and ends up assuming that he starts to act like a husband, ascertaining his rights as a husband when he gets jealous. She has a mental block named Pakhi and his waada.

Why should he think that she doesn’t have any feelings for him and she didn’t even like the thought? Shouldn’t he be thinking that Pakhi and his relationship is bothering her? Can’t he think that she seemed disturbed by what the yoga instructor spoke and that is why she was asking him why he didn’t deny whatever she spoke? He could see that she was feeling possessive in the hospital wrt a nurse but couldn’t see this 🤦‍♀️? Why couldn’t Sunny understand now? He was the one who told Virat last time that she reacted that way because she is affected due to his and Pakhi’s past right? 🤦‍♀️

Anyway they will show us all kind of things to drag the confession and make many dislike the characters. I could only see them as Sai and Virat who are going to get together at the end 🤣🤣.

Even today, I could see how they both wanted the same and yet couldn’t achieve it. I could only see that yearning and pain in them.

Originally posted by: laksh

That is so not right. People say Virat should ignore Sai and not do anything for her and all. I would say that rather than him doing any of those, he should first try to understand Sai, try to understand what’s bothering her, what her issue is. If at all anything is ever going to help him or their relationship, it is only the understanding that they can develop for each other. Both have to think. Now that Sai had started to think and also is questioning that Virat never did anything to show that Pakhi isn’t anyone to him, she should start thinking more about it. I want Virat too to do the same because so far, he hasn’t thought about it. Every time he has got doubts after what Sunny told him, he has only tried to probe her to think, tried to make her accept her feelings but he hasn’t really tried to see her hurt, tried to understand what’s bothering her. It was so clearly visible today and yet he couldn’t see that 🤦‍♀️. She understands that he gets jealous but he couldn’t? She thinks and ends up assuming that he starts to act like a husband, ascertaining his rights as a husband when he gets jealous. She has a mental block named Pakhi and his waada.

Why should he think that she doesn’t have any feelings for him and she didn’t even like the thought? Shouldn’t he be thinking that Pakhi and his relationship is bothering her? Can’t he think that she seemed disturbed by what the yoga instructor spoke and that is why she was asking him why he didn’t deny whatever she spoke? He could see that she was feeling possessive in the hospital wrt a nurse but couldn’t see this 🤦‍♀️? Why couldn’t Sunny understand now? He was the one who told Virat last time that she reacted that way because she is affected due to his and Pakhi’s past right? 🤦‍♀️

Anyway they will show us all kind of things to drag the confession and make many dislike the characters. I could only see them as Sai and Virat who are going to get together at the end 🤣🤣.

Even today, I could see how they both wanted the same and yet couldn’t achieve it. I could only see that yearning and pain in them.

I was ranting about all of this yesterday yaar... but I have made peace with it now 🤣

@bolded: This is exactly what I am focusing on. Even yesterday, despite their huge fight, at the end, all Virat could think about was if Sai is okay. And, once Sai finds Samrat, all she will think about it reuniting the brothers, because she knows what he means to Virat. These two can fight all they want, hurt each other, fail to understand each other, and do whatever else... but in the end, their love triumphs all.

That's why I never bash one or the other or make it Sai vs. Virat... in the end, they are on the same side even if they can't realize it right now.

Originally posted by: kahkashansakina

Well said laksh 🤗

Virat ke liye past is past hai woh present mein jeeta hai.but sai keliye past ka clear hona important hai sai rishte mein honest hai usko rishtey mein milawat pasand nahi hai ...

Sai virat ke past ke sàath jee rahi hai jo ek muqa nahi Jane de ti pather marne ka sai par 😡

Virat ko chahiye woh sab clear kare.

@bold exactly

Yeah, hope he clears all her doubts and confusions. I don’t think he will be doing it now especially after he has started to think that Sai has no feelings for him and that she didn’t even like the thought of it 🤦‍♀️.

Originally posted by: laksh

@bold exactly

Yeah, hope he clears all her doubts and confusions. I don’t think he will be doing it now especially after he has started to think that Sai has no feelings for him and that she didn’t even like the thought of it 🤦‍♀️.

On the flip side, something positive that I saw coming out of the episode was that Sai is finally starting to question his actions and his motives. She is finally starting to try to see things from his perspective. It was subtle, but it was there in her monologue as she was walking away....

Originally posted by: tptwi

On the flip side, something positive that I saw coming out of the episode was that Sai is finally starting to question his actions and his motives. She is finally starting to try to see things from his perspective. It was subtle, but it was there in her monologue as she was walking away....

I know, I was quite happy about it actually 😍. This was the first time that she was pondering on these. Also, does this mean that this was the first time Virat had tried to make their marriage an official one in an open direct manner? It got me into thinking if this was the first time she has actually seen him trying to accept their marriage in a direct way 😀.

Originally posted by: laksh

I know, I was quite happy about it actually 😍. This was the first time that she was pondering on these. Also, does this mean that this was the first time Virat had tried to make their marriage an official one in an open direct manner? It got me into thinking if this was the first time she has actually seen him trying to accept their marriage in a direct way 😀.

You know, Laksh, I was just watching the episode for a third time (I am a lost cause), and I had the exact same thought. I was trying to think back about Virat's words and actions. Up until this point, he has told Sai he does not want her to leave him, he is not committed to anyone anymore, he finds her different and special, that he is starting to like her, that she is his strength and not his weakness, and that he wants this marriage to be real (which I will not count here because Sai was in no state to understand or let this sink in). He has called her "meri patni" and "meri biwi" with haq in front of the entire family multiple times over and also assured her personally that she is his wife. He has fought for her education, supported her and defended her against his family members, consoled her when she was at her lowest points, expressed his love in the grandest gestures, but also taken care of her smallest needs. All in all, he has gone above and beyond for her, and she has seen that, which is why we have heard her be in awe of how much Virat has done for her time and time again. While all of these things would appear to be screaming that this relationship is real and even that he loves her, due to KBA, the vaada, and the resulting insecurities and defenses Sai has put up, she has been unable to give herself permission to label Virat's actions as that of a real husband in love with his wife.

So, then what is different about the anniversary? Well for one, it explicitly screams marriage in that all of the things I mentioned above can be labeled as a zimidari in one way or another in Sai's mind, but why would Virat want to celebrate their marriage anniversary if it was just a deal? The entire reason she got so upset to begin with is because you cannot celebrate something that doesn't exist... so, for Virat to want to celebrate might have set something off in Sai's mind. For the first time, his gesture was clear without any jalebis. And, I don't think it was just about the anniversary celebration. This is also the most honest he has ever been with her about his own feelings about their relationship. The way he was pointing to the photos and saying this is US, this is OUR journey.. acknowleding that their relationship had a rocky start, but appreciating how far they have come. She honestly looked so hurt when he was saying that, because she resonated with his words but was unable to accept them. In her monologue, she said that Virat hasn't ever told her that he feels this way about her... and to me, the reason why she even asked herself that was because today, for the first time explicitly, he kind of made his feelings clear in a way that only a husband can or would do.... so now the confusion in her mind becomes that if this is true, then why hasn't he ever told Pakhi that he doesn't feel for her? Again, this story would have been so incredibly different had she witnessed the KBA/accident confrontations...