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Originally posted by: tptwi

Hmm.... I don't think I agree with this. Regardless of the pain and the hurt, this journey has been beautiful for both of them. In my opinion, Sai's problem wasn't that Virat is celebrating this journey, but it was rather that there was nothing of that sort to celebrate in the first place. See, Virat and Sai are bound together in a relationship that extends far beyond that of husband and wife. They are friends, family, each other's rocks, support systems first.... their relationship is one of love (even if not in the married sense yet), loyalty, respect, and trust. Leave the labels aside, and none of them will counter this. Because even to Sai, all of these emotions are very real under the umbrella of a zimidari. When she was looking at all of the photos that Virat had hung, she looked pained more than anything else.... her expression portrayed utter heartbreak when Virat said this is US.... this is OUR journey. And to me, that showed that she agreed with him. They have made huge progress, but the issue from Sai's perspective is that how can it be as husband and wife when this marriage is a deal? Regardless of what has happened since after the marriage, Virat remembers their wedding day as the occasion on which he gained the best thing that has ever happened to him... the occasion on which he was united with his life partner. But, Sai remembers that day as the occasion on which she lost her right to be able to love and cherish her husband...the pain was pouring out of her when she said that on their wedding day, this rishta became a forced zimidari with no love or belonging... and at this point, even if consciously or subconsciously, loving Virat is all she wants to do, she has convinced herself that she does not have the permission to be able to do so...

So, I don't think that Sai's outburst yesterday had to do with the journey. It had to do once again with what labels (or lack of labels) were being placed on that journey...

Oh I didn’t mean that the journey was entirely painful to her. They did share some beautiful and lovely time with each other, bonded well and have got into a relationship without their own knowledge that they can’t stay away from each other. But what I am trying to say is what you have said, that there was nothing to celebrate about it especially giving it a name or label of marriage. She has always been uncertain about their relationship. She has always tried not to act as a wife even though she had ended up acting surrendering to her own emotions. But she has been constantly and consciously trying not to have any expectations from him as a wife and that is why the photos, the journey cannot be seen as a journey of a couple by her, that is why it is painful for her.

@bold exactly. Beautifully worded ❤️.

@blue sounds even more painful when I read these but this is exactly what Sai felt.

Virat found his life partner in her unexpectedly and he cherishes it and wants to celebrate it but to her, she got into a marriage where she wasn’t even accepted as a wife and he refused to give her the rights of seeing him as a husband.

Loving these discussions. ❤️ 🥳

But gotta go sleep now. Will continue this discussion tomorrow. 👍🏼

Gotta read all posts patiently to understand.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Virat's actions are always complex...But this particular aspect - his over familiarity with Pakhi - has always bothered me.

Let us forget Ajinkya for the time being. Virat now has strong feelings for her and he was very insecure - that was the reason behind him being not okay with Sai talking to him.

But Virat has had this problem since the initial days of their marriage. Case in point - Ameya. Amey was a scoundrel and Sai was only fake flirting with him. Virat got so mad at her. That time he didn't have any strong feelings for her.

I'm not saying that his actions wrt Pakhi were in any way motivated by any remnant feeling. Or that his intentions were anything other than innocent. But it doesn't change the fact that he did cross the line of decorum.

Sai on the other hand has always been mindful of maintaining that decorum - the expectation that comes with her married status. How would Virat have reacted if Sai had invited one of her male friends into her bedroom - even while her intentions were pure? Even if it was early into the marriage, Virat would not have liked it. So when he has that kind of expectations from Sai - of preserving the dignity of whatever relationship they shared - should not he have maintained his part of the bargain too? Again, I'm not questioning his intention, just his actions.

On rethinking this stuff again.....in a way he has unintentionally wronged Samrat too and not just Sai. For example - yoga lovers having emotional phone conversation with Pakhi on Samrakhi wedding night. Not to mention their other moments together. If Samrat had seen Virakhi interactions, just like Sai, he too would have been very hurt, suspicious even. Because their interactions did cross the line a lot of times.

But then Virat does love and value Samrat a lot. And yet, he is totally oblivious to the impropriety of his actions towards the same much-loved brother's wife. So are we to assume that Virat is just too dumb? or that he is a hypocrite?

Very true 😞.

Originally posted by: tptwi

KD really is all downhill from here...especially after confession. Vankar needs to step it up and end this copy-paste nonsense.

Originally posted by: tptwi

@bolded: I agree with all of this in the context of his inability to confess his love to Sai. But, in the context of him clarifying the past, I still think that he does not realize the extent to which it impacts Sai. I don't think he is afraid of confrontation in that context, because he is unaware that the possibility of that confrontation even exists as he is unable to grapple with how much Sai has been impacted by his words. A part of this is due to the mask that Sai wears in terms of hiding how she truly feels. He cannot see through her facade of being unbothered. And when she does express her emotions, it is all jumbled up within the deal wali shaadi and zimiadi language, which he cannot see through. Wrote more on this on another post and tagged you.

@bold I agree. Another reason is that he gets carried away with the good times, carried away with his emotions to make their time a pleasant one that he doesn’t really give these a thought or doesn’t ponder.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Loving these discussions. ❤️ 🥳

But gotta go sleep now. Will continue this discussion tomorrow. 👍🏼

Gotta read all posts patiently to understand.

I am loving it too 😄. Having it after a long time. Catch you later. Good night 😊.

Originally posted by: tptwi

Even before Virat realized his feelings for Sai, he still felt as if he had rights over her as his husband. In fact, Sai has always felt the same about Virat. Sai was always possessive over Virat when it came to Pakhi. The only difference has been in how they have reacted... and to me, this is because Sai has had her walls up since day 1, while Virat, despite having made the vaada, has been letting himself fall for Sai this entire time. Virat felt as if he could act as Sai's husband... get upset when she was fake flirting over the phone with the scoundrel... why? Because, he has always seen himself as Sai's husband despite the deal nonsense. But with Sai, even though she has been deeply bothered by Virat and Pakhi's interactions, she has never reacted to the same extent... because she has never felt like she has the right to be able to do so. I don't know if this makes sense, but this is what I feel. Virat has left himself entirely vulnerable, but Sai has always been guarded.

@bold actually, it is only because he made their marriage a deal, he could break all these and let himself fall for Sai 😃.

Originally posted by: laksh

@bold actually, it is only because he made their marriage a deal, he could break all these and let himself fall for Sai 😃.

Yes, completely. I wrote the same on another post earlier. He made the conditions, so it is easy for him to move past them.

May be sai understood virat's feeling, she is not accepting it as she does NOT want to be second choice/love of IPS🤣🤣🤣

Over the hill conversation when virat was saying that story of the friend of him, she mentioned that we girls are so smart...if someone has feeling for us.... we know it very minute!

Virat: then why that girl is not accepting my friend's feeling or denying ?

sai - may be she does NOT want to hurt his feeling... and does not want that person in her life!

Originally posted by: laksh

He kept seeing Sai to know if she was bothered by it. He was worried but he should have acted quickly.

From what I understand Sai has a mask on and he is not able to see past that. She is very good at masking her emotions. He notices a few things like how she chose the green dress even though she liked the purple one but when it is about himself, he fails to understand her state of mind.

The way I see it, Virat lacks confidence. I think this is where his family where he was born and brought up is playing a role. He knows that Sai didn’t want to get married to him, but he doesn’t know that Sai started to talk about deal or walking out of the marriage only because he brought those all up. He always has been thinking that she doesn’t like him and he could see it later that she has started to care for him and that he is an important person in her life. But Sai saying that she doesn’t care about what he and Pakhi shares to Pakhi or things like that makes him feel that she isn’t possessive about him. He knows what Sunny has said and it is human that we would forget an information at certain times. One wouldn’t be able to keep that in mind all the time before doing a certain things and that’s exactly Virat is also doing.

When Sai gets upset and acts indifferent, he can perceive it as her not having any interest in him and wouldn’t think that she has got upset because of his relationship with Pakhi. He has always felt that Sai wouldn’t like him and that’s why he couldn’t believe when Sunny told him too that Sai has started to like him. All this is because he lacks confidence. Sai is a very confident and bold girl. He is always worried that she might not look at him as a prospective life partner. He doesn’t see her issue or anger or indifference is due to him and Pakhi but is conflicted with the thoughts that what if she is not interested in him at all. One can see how he reacted when Sai told him that may be the girl doesn’t see him as a suitable partner and just so that she doesn’t hurt that guy, she isn’t showing out that she knows what his friend feels for her. His fear that he had set aside while trying to find her feelings for him was brought out by Sai when she spoke that. It is not like rejection, but what if she doesn’t even see him as a prospective life partner, can he impose himself or his relationship on her? No. That is why he is too scared to confess. Whereas Sai on the other hand is a very confident girl who would be able to confess if she comes to know that he has no feelings for Pakhi and also that he doesn’t see Sai as just his responsibility.

Lovely analysis ❤️.

So I understand both their predicaments , confusion and insecurities. The 'what if' used a lot for Virat is self explanatory, which is the main issue here. Also being an IPS officer he should know failure or rejection should not hold so much importance that you you are unable to see the incidents happening right in front of you. Here I am referring to Pakhi and her non stop drama, if he thinks Sai is uneffected or indifferent because she doesnt care with all the drama she does or what relationship v and p share, then he should never even try to find out her feelings since she should ideally have no feelings for him. Hope I am making Sense 😂😂. Him being the one who started this whole vicious circle he also needs to have the courage to break this. Pyaar Kiya toh darna kyaa 😜

Yes Sai also does lot of assumptions but her assumptions had a foundation which Virat laid very carefully and even nurtured it for a long time. In this whole situation I can relate to Sai more than Virat but feel terribly bad for both 😢 since at this point neither of them are wrong or right.

100% agree Sai is more bold and speaks what is on her mind, and as we all know she will be the one to break the vicious circle her Virat sir created and confess 😂