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Originally posted by: WeRockTheWorld

So true...I dont know how parents can forgive someone who has hurt their child. In fact literally messed up her life. But till some years back most mothers of daughters behave the same. They dont mind their daughters suffering as long as their daughter is with her husband and his family. They give examples of how they had sacrificed for the sake of their children and family. The example they give is "Have you seen your dad when he is angry? They are all the same. You just need to adjust" because for them its ok for women not to be respected .

I dont remember seeing any TV shows where a women stands up for her and her kids happiness against her husband and inlaws. Even if she does finally they will conclude it in some misunderstanding .

The present generation of young men and women have a different approach towards marriage . . Millennials are lot more logic driven than blind followers. They have the courage to question the system when not right.

I really hope to see some refreshing change in Dev and Sonakshi's character. Honestly speaking I wouldnt mind if Sonakshi walks away with Suhana from that house. And if she does then this time she should not get back unless she sees a change in Dev's approach towards his mother interfering in his life.

I am fed up of seeing "my ma can never be wrong "Dev .

That is true. Typical Indian mothers, especially the mothers of married daughter do teach their daughters to "adjust" to keep their marriage safe & secured, even if that's only in papers.

But Asha was presented as some path breaking mother, at least that's how the fans argue she was. Even the makers actually pitted her against Ishwari I think. The first season actually tried to highlight the stark contrast between the dysfunctional Dixit family & the ideal Bose family to explain the difference in Dev & Sonakshi's character traits. Dev was weak & emotional because of growing up under the manipulation of a control freak mother with no one to support him while Sonakshi was smart, understanding & confident because she grew up in a healthy environment with a loving family to support her.

So I think Asha was meant to be pitted against Ishwari & while Ishwari was presented as how a mother should not be, Asha was presented as how a mother should be.

But I don't find Asha all that ideal & supportive of her children. She was good natured & a lot better than Ishwari, but her misplaced optimism kind of ruined her daughter's life. Back then if she hadn't convinced Sonakshi to forgive Dev right away & pushed her into marrying him just because Ishwari came knocking on the door, maybe Dev would have had put in some real efforts to win her back and that would have taught him to value her, which was essential. Or maybe they wouldn't have got back together & Sonakshi eventually would have found someone who actually deserved her. In both the cases her life would have been a lot better than how it was after marrying Dev.

I guess i always compared her to my mother.

she just told dev that bijoy is angry and to come later.

also don't understand how dev thought bringing sondesh was a good way to apologise and he never tried again? wow that makes me so mad i can't. didn't even apologise later like radharani did to elena and sonakshi.

I am not saying insult him but be firm with him atleast make him realise his mistake. I also don't understand the whole beti ka ghar etc, dixit family are so lucky to have sona. asha and bijoy were justified in scolding dev for what he did. compare that to the amount of times sona was scolded by ishwari for the stupidest of things.

uh the more i analyse the more my head aches.

didn't she become part of the manipulative scheme ishu and dev pull. that was a really low low. i pehle hi think this making people jealous to push them into coming back is toxic af. if not for the urgency sonakshi felt she might've thought with her brain and not let dev go so easy. but what's pathetic that her own mother was part of that charade. I would as a daughter honestly feel betrayed

Originally posted by: WeRockTheWorld

So true...I dont know how parents can forgive someone who has hurt their child. In fact literally messed up her life. But till some years back most mothers of daughters behave the same. They dont mind their daughters suffering as long as their daughter is with her husband and his family. They give examples of how they had sacrificed for the sake of their children and family. The example they give is "Have you seen your dad when he is angry? They are all the same. You just need to adjust" because for them its ok for women not to be respected .

I dont remember seeing any TV shows where a women stands up for her and her kids happiness against her husband and inlaws. Even if she does finally they will conclude it in some misunderstanding .

The present generation of young men and women have a different approach towards marriage . . Millennials are lot more logic driven than blind followers. They have the courage to question the system when not right.

I really hope to see some refreshing change in Dev and Sonakshi's character. Honestly speaking I wouldnt mind if Sonakshi walks away with Suhana from that house. And if she does then this time she should not get back unless she sees a change in Dev's approach towards his mother interfering in his life.

I am fed up of seeing "my ma can never be wrong "Dev .

Ikr. I am a gen z so even younger and imo if its not a healthy marriage it doesn't even need to be. the whole adjusting thing is so so sexist. pehle ladki pura ghar chode sometimes even city change, then she should also try to not change the host family and assimilate and then also compromise. ped khareed lo na. isse jyada toh log pets aur maids ko accomodate kar lete hain.

even small things like when she was teaching sonakshi to cook for dev and bijoy pulled her away. did dev learn to cook anything bengali for sona (he did for soha never for sona), did dev even learn a little bengali, or anything except mithai to understand bengali culture. sona was supposed to understand their house traditions but never dev.

Originally posted by: NotAMuggle

You spoke my mind you know. I never understood how people are so fond of Asha as a mother & pissed at Bijoy as a father. To me it's the totally opposite.

Asha is good natured no doubt but she is too soft & she taught her children, especially Sonakshi to be a docile non opinionated doll in order to avoid trouble. Whenever there was a trouble she advised Sonakshi to bow down before it not to fight for herself to overcome it.

When after the first breakup, Ishwari & Dev eventually came knocking on Sonakshi's door asking her to come back, Sonakshi was not all that willing. She loved Dev but she was genuinely hurt at the way he so readily discarded her to please his whimsical mother. And she had every right to say no to him when he offered a reconciliation just because he got permission from his Mummy now. Sonakshi was totally right on her stand & Dev, if really wanted her back, should have gone through at least some realisation what he did wrong. But here came Asha & she somehow made Sonakshi feel bad about giving Dev a hard time & encouraged her to forgive him & go back to him even though he did nothing to earn that forgiveness. 🤔 I personally think, this sealed the fate of their doomed marriage. Because Sonakshi went back so readily Dev never realised his mistake & didn't learn to value her. Ultimately it was Sonakshi bowing down to Ishwari & Dev's decision and that gave the duo an impression that they could treat her however they want. 🥱

I totally agree on your viewpoint about the bday incident.👍🏼

And also I would like to add how Asha was all so welcoming & forgiving towards Dev post leap. Come on! That man just ruined her daughter's life! Married her daughter, but treated her so horribly, forced her to conceive even though that was hard for her just because his Mummy wanted so, threw out her family on the street (I know it was Vicky. But Asha didn't know that right?) abandoned her when she was pregnant & never looked back or came to check on her for 7 years but the moment he got to know he has a daughter with her he shamelessly tries to force his way into her life & blames her for every small things again!!😵 How can her blood not boil just looking at that man for what he did to her daughter??😳 I find Bijoy's reaction in this part of story totally appropriate over Asha's. Asha actually didn't really care all that much that Dev was blaming Sonakshi for keeping his daughter away from him & shaming her for not doing her wifely duties by staying with him even after he kicked her out or that he was blaming Bijoy for helping his daughter to move on & not sending her back into that toxic house from where ahe was thrown out! Asha somehow always skipped over Dev's taunts & blames but always stopped Sonakshi whenever she tried to give him back. She literally sat them down together & said none of them were to fight with the other as if both were equally responsible for all the fights And since then she became so pro-Dev.... she actually teamed up with Ishwari & again forced Sonakshi to forgive him & go back to him when again, Dev didn't really do anything to deserve that forgiveness. And if season 3 is to be taken into account, that was again probably a not so wise decision as far as Sonakshi & Suhana's well being are concerned.

I am actually quite relieved that makers decided to kill off Asha instead of continuing her character with a different actress. If she was here, she would have probably justified Dev's eagerness to force fit Ayush into their lives & would have asked Sonakshi to "understand" Ishwari's point of view too and probably would have pressured her to bend to their demands to establish a happy peaceful environment in the house.🥱

I always felt that. She agreed to reconcile without Dev truly understanding what he had done. When she refuses to go back to him, he thinks it's because she feels Ishwari hasn't fully accepted her and asking her only for his own happiness.

This is where he was completely wrong. Sona wasn't upset that Ishwari was asking her back for Dev. No. Sona was upset that he discarded her so easily for the sake of his mother. She was actually mad at him. But I felt Dev never got that message.

And Asha did convince her to go back to him. I didn't mind that as much. But what really bothered me was when the marriage talks were happening, Bijoy said let's do it after 6 months, so everyone gets a chance to know each other. Asha overruled him saying, Sona was ready to get married. This is where the fate of the marriage was truly sealed. Instead of mending differences, they rushed in to a new relationship.

Actually, Sona and Dev were never looking to get married right away. That is why when she asked during their dating times, is this a proposal?, he always answered, it's not a proposal. When they informed their families, I think it was simply an information that they were together. They did not indicate that they wanted to get married. But the families jumped in and the whole thing became a mess, with marriage talks happening.

After the breakup and reconciliation, Dev was too scared and desperate that he would lose her again, so rushed in with the proposal. Neither of them, nor their families were ready for the marriage, but unfortunately no one recognized that. Wished they had heeded Bijoy's suggestion to use the later date, giving them time.

Originally posted by: WeRockTheWorld

So true...I dont know how parents can forgive someone who has hurt their child. In fact literally messed up her life. But till some years back most mothers of daughters behave the same. They dont mind their daughters suffering as long as their daughter is with her husband and his family. They give examples of how they had sacrificed for the sake of their children and family. The example they give is "Have you seen your dad when he is angry? They are all the same. You just need to adjust" because for them its ok for women not to be respected .

I dont remember seeing any TV shows where a women stands up for her and her kids happiness against her husband and inlaws. Even if she does finally they will conclude it in some misunderstanding .

The present generation of young men and women have a different approach towards marriage . . Millennials are lot more logic driven than blind followers. They have the courage to question the system when not right.

I really hope to see some refreshing change in Dev and Sonakshi's character. Honestly speaking I wouldnt mind if Sonakshi walks away with Suhana from that house. And if she does then this time she should not get back unless she sees a change in Dev's approach towards his mother interfering in his life.

I am fed up of seeing "my ma can never be wrong "Dev .

We all were. That is why there had been a genuine change in his approach. He was emphatic post leap saying, Sonakshi and I are a team.

The writers have done a shoddy job, erasing all his development and put him back to his pre leap marriage state. They could have done so much better.

Originally posted by: Doodle12

I guess i always compared her to my mother.

she just told dev that bijoy is angry and to come later.

also don't understand how dev thought bringing sondesh was a good way to apologise and he never tried again? wow that makes me so mad i can't. didn't even apologise later like radharani did to elena and sonakshi.

I am not saying insult him but be firm with him atleast make him realise his mistake. I also don't understand the whole beti ka ghar etc, dixit family are so lucky to have sona. asha and bijoy were justified in scolding dev for what he did. compare that to the amount of times sona was scolded by ishwari for the stupidest of things.

uh the more i analyse the more my head aches.

didn't she become part of the manipulative scheme ishu and dev pull. that was a really low low. i pehle hi think this making people jealous to push them into coming back is toxic af. if not for the urgency sonakshi felt she might've thought with her brain and not let dev go so easy. but what's pathetic that her own mother was part of that charade. I would as a daughter honestly feel betrayed

@Bold : Oh there are plenty of things that Dev thought were perfectly alright for him to do, maybe even cool of him to do but the same things become wrong if Sonakshi attempted any 🤪

1) Calling Asha "Aunty" because his mom couldn't bear him calling his mother in law "Maa". But the moment Sonakshi said she would do the same too he was all sweaty & nervous thinking over it & asked her umpteenth times not to do so 😆

2) He didn't like Bijoy shouting over his mother to defend his self respect but he thought it was perfectly alright that his mother & that motormouth Mami were calling him & his family bunch of thieves.

3) The whole slap kand. It was alright if he "accidentally" slapped Bijoy since it was not intentional. He should be forgiven the moment he says sorry. But guess what to do with Sonakshi when she bumped into his Mummy "accidentally"? Throw her out of the house of course!

4) Post leap he did straight out badtameezi with Bijoy, someone so elder than him. On the very first day he enter Bijoy's house, he went on to insult him with bp medicines & went on to threaten him with a mocking slap movement the very next day. He was not regretting that "accident" at all, in fact he was relishing reminding Bijoy about it. But guess what! Sonakshi was NOT to disrespect his mother anyway, not even by indirectly blaming her in her absence.🤪

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& the list will go on & on 🤪 My point is, don't be surprised by it. He was a hypocrite of the first order & he was proud of that!

@Bold Italic - I know right🥱 That plan itself was so sick🥱 Neither Maa nor the Beta had any guts to openly admit their faults & genuinely try apologizing & convincing Sonakshi. They knew they have lost her confidence & instead of trying to win that back in a fair way, they had to play this game to make her "realise" that she had to come back to them. They planned everything up, they involved another innocent girl & her family, they orchestred the whole engagement charade & then put the whole responsibility on Sonakshi's shoulder to stop it Ishwari's intentions might have changed, but she was still very much manipulating Sonakshi. No change in her ways. If I was in Sonakshi's place, I would have got the whole message wrong. I would have thought my ex-MIL is actually rubbing it on my face how much she dislikes me by trying to get my ex-husband married in front of me. I would have let them be & stay as far away from the mess as possible. Sonakshi was doing the same too. Even after Dev left, she was not very keen to go after him. It was like Ishwari, Asha, Mamaji, Suhana & Golu..... everyone literally pressured her into going after Dev & (I can't believe) say sorry to him If I was in her place, I would have been so so mad at my mom for taking part in this charade & also encouraging my child into doing so.😵

aah i have the same thoughts. I'd probably have broken up with dev like yesterday. I had very rosy thoughts about this show but when the new season was announced i rewatched it and dev's character is so frustrating i can't beleive it. much more than ishwari.

i somehow liked gkb much more than these.

also i don't remember it when did dev did the slap action again to mock bijoy.

i just have learnt one thing from this show and many others. You might be in love but before that you need mutual respect. its possible to eventually grow love but not possible to eventually grow respect.

Originally posted by: Newbiewriter30

I always felt that. She agreed to reconcile without Dev truly understanding what he had done. When she refuses to go back to him, he thinks it's because she feels Ishwari hasn't fully accepted her and asking her only for his own happiness.

This is where he was completely wrong. Sona wasn't upset that Ishwari was asking her back for Dev. No. Sona was upset that he discarded her so easily for the sake of his mother. She was actually mad at him. But I felt Dev never got that message.

And Asha did convince her to go back to him. I didn't mind that as much. But what really bothered me was when the marriage talks were happening, Bijoy said let's do it after 6 months, so everyone gets a chance to know each other. Asha overruled him saying, Sona was ready to get married. This is where the fate of the marriage was truly sealed. Instead of mending differences, they rushed in to a new relationship.

Actually, Sona and Dev were never looking to get married right away. That is why when she asked during their dating times, is this a proposal?, he always answered, it's not a proposal. When they informed their families, I think it was simply an information that they were together. They did not indicate that they wanted to get married. But the families jumped in and the whole thing became a mess, with marriage talks happening.

After the breakup and reconciliation, Dev was too scared and desperate that he would lose her again, so rushed in with the proposal. Neither of them, nor their families were ready for the marriage, but unfortunately no one recognized that. Wished they had heeded Bijoy's suggestion to use the later date, giving them time.

Exactly. Dev never really understood what he did wrong. He thought Sonakshi was pissed that his mother didn't accept her right away. NO! She was hurt because he made it clear that she was not a priority for him. In the hospital he clearly told her that in front of his mother nothing else matters to him. That's as good as telling her that she didn't matter to him. Sonakshi was not rejecting his marriage proposal because she was apprehensive of Ishwari. She was rejecting him because she understood from his speech, which was totally centred on how happy he is that his mother gave him permission to marry Sonakshi, that she is still not a priority to him. Had Dev understood this, he would have learnt to prioritise her. But because he thought all problems were solved since his mother "accepted" Sonakshi, he never learnt to value Sonakshi. To him, he could go back to keeping his Mummy & sisters & mami family & all he needed to do for Sonakshi was to recite some cheesy romantic lines. That's all.

Bijoy was always right in his assessment. But no one ever listened to him & sadly towards the end of the show, his anxiety & worries were turned into something funny & used as comic relief, when they were actually very valid in their place.

Originally posted by: NotAMuggle

Exactly. Dev never really understood what he did wrong. He thought Sonakshi was pissed that his mother didn't accept her right away. NO! She was hurt because he made it clear that she was not a priority for him. In the hospital he clearly told her that in front of his mother nothing else matters to him. That's as good as telling her that she didn't matter to him. Sonakshi was not rejecting his marriage proposal because she was apprehensive of Ishwari. She was rejecting him because she understood from his speech, which was totally centred on how happy he is that his mother gave him permission to marry Sonakshi, that she is still not a priority to him. Had Dev understood this, he would have learnt to prioritise her. But because he thought all problems were solved since his mother "accepted" Sonakshi, he never learnt to value Sonakshi. To him, he could go back to keeping his Mummy & sisters & mami family & all he needed to do for Sonakshi was to recite some cheesy romantic lines. That's all.

Bijoy was always right in his assessment. But no one ever listened to him & sadly towards the end of the show, his anxiety & worries were turned into something funny & used as comic relief, when they were actually very valid in their place.

Actually Sonakshi always knew his priority was his mother, most of all. She was okay with that. He had told her quite early in their relationship, 'second most important woman in my life'. She was very secure and never bothered about changing that. She told Ishwari after their breakup also "Aap unke life mein sabse zyaada important ho, aapse zyaada pyaar kisise karte bhi nahi, khud se bhi nahi".

I think what really hurt her was that his actions somehow showed her that she wasn't important AT ALL. She never competed to be primary in Dev's life, but resented being treated as a disposable toy, and she was totally right.

Interestingly, she was his life.. I don't think either of them realized that. They kept saying Maa was the ultimate, but his actions showed that wasn't it,, because he couldn't really bear to be away from Sona, he was never himself when separated from her.

Originally posted by: Doodle12

aah i have the same thoughts. I'd probably have broken up with dev like yesterday. I had very rosy thoughts about this show but when the new season was announced i rewatched it and dev's character is so frustrating i can't beleive it. much more than ishwari.

i somehow liked gkb much more than these.

also i don't remember it when did dev did the slap action again to mock bijoy.

i just have learnt one thing from this show and many others. You might be in love but before that you need mutual respect. its possible to eventually grow love but not possible to eventually grow respect.

He did it the next day of entering Bose house. Ishwari, along with Golu, came with her box of Puri & Halwa to feed her Beta & Poti and Bijoy was irked by it. He knew Ishwari used Golu as an excuse to enter the house. He whispered to Asha whether it was some scheme Bhatija ke saath Maa free😆 He whispered loudly enough for everyone to hear that & Ishwari acted all offended & Dev asked her to leave. After she left, Dev stood in front of Bijoy, raised his hand dramatically.... both Asha & Sonakshi feared he was going to slap Bijoy, but at the end he made 🙏 gesture & said for the last time he is asking not to insult his mother. He wouldn't tolerate if anything such happened again & Bijoy should do good if he checks himself since after a week Sonakshi will be coming to his house & he will be returning the favour to her. That was a God awful scene🤢🤢

I don't remember the exact episode number, but it was after the scene where he called Sonakshi an Aunty but later was mesmerized by her in the breakfast table.

Dev's character is indeed very disturbing. Pre-leap Dev I understand. I wouldn't want anyone such in my life....but from storytelling point of view he was an interesting character. He was flawed, but his flaws made sense. Post leap Dev was a total mess. He was completely toxic until the Khatri track. And then he suddenly did a backflip & overnight was repenting his actions. There was no consistency.