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There were many things that were wrong yesterday, Sai, Virat and Pakhi spoke things wrong. But there was one thing that I didn’t like in last night’s episode at all. Why did Virat apologise to have celebrated Sai’s birthday? He should have apologised to Pakhi, to have behaved rude with her because of the way he held her arms. That was totally wrong. He understood what was bothering Pakhi but that doesn’t mean that he apologises to have celebrated his own wife’s birthday. What are the makers trying to show? What kind of a dialogue was that? This is ridiculous. As if him wanting her to stay back for his brother’s happiness wasn’t enough that he apologised for this. If Sai had heard, it would have created more misunderstanding or may be she heard it already? Just hope she did not. Virat shouldn’t have apologised for that, not at all.

This is not a bashing post but I failed to understand this and there was no need for it. He could have said anything else. I have always been against him making Pakhi stay back for his brother’s sake.


I am not sure if Pakhi tried to gain sympathy or not, but it looked like she really wanted to leave. She had for once taken the right decision, why stop her? He knows that she has no feelings for Samrat and is not waiting for him, then why would he want her to be in the house? What makes Virat think that his brother is going to be happy with Pakhi? He is not able to tolerate Sai’s friendship with a college mate, not able to stop himself from thinking about that guy, didn’t even think before questioning Sai if she would marry Ajinkya, then how is he not thinking whether or not his brother would be okay with Pakhi? I can understand his insecurity but not some of his behavior. It is not a healthy behaviour. If he feels this way, what makes him think that Samrat and Pakhi should be together? He knows that Pakhi has feelings for him and is not able to move on from him, if he was in Samrat’s position, would he be okay with it? He once took a decision on behalf of all three, even if it was Pakhi who had ultimately decided to get married to Samrat, he did propose or request that Pakhi marries Samrat letting her down and also hiding it from his brother. When he felt betrayed that Sai hid about Devi Pulkit wedding, wouldn’t Samrat feel betrayed that he hid the relationship that he and and Pakhi had shared? Wouldn’t Samrat feel betrayed when Virat would hide what Pakhi has been doing all the while even after he returns? It would be in the best interest of Pakhi, he wouldn’t want to tarnish her image by disclosing it to his brother, but can he take all the decisions himself? Let him not reveal about Pakhi or her intentions to Samrat, he can’t think that Samrat’s happiness lies in Pakhi.

Pakhi has also clearly said that she has feelings only for Virat and is in the house only for him, then why stop her? She can also get out of this mess and try to distract herself, try to move on only if she leaves this house. It is another thing that she would stay back after all these people ask her to, but he shouldn’t be thinking that Samrat and Pakhi should be together.

He has seen Samrat liking Pakhi, was mad about her but that doesn’t mean that he would make Pakhi stay back for Samrat. It sounds quite selfish. All that he wants is his brother’s happiness. Even if he thinks that Pakhi should give a chance to her marriage and things would get better after Samrat returns, it should happen only when Pakhi wants it, when she is comfortable with it. He can advice her to think about her marriage, her life with Samrat but Samrat has been missing for nearly an year and it doesn’t make sense for him to expect her to stay back for a person who might or might not return.

Pakhi can decide to stay back and wait for Samrat but no one else can expect her to. They have to look at her good too and Virat has always been failing in that. He promised to be her friend and this is one thing, I could never understand. If he is a good friend, he wouldn’t just think about his brother’s happiness, he would also look at the uncertainty of the situation and think about Pakhi’s future, her happiness too. Pakhi is mean and has been acting evil but the more she stays here, the more she watches Virat and Sai together, the more evil she is going to become.

One year is quite a long time. Some wait and some won’t but that should purely be Pakhi’s decision, not Virat’s wish or anyone else’s wish. Pakhi’s parents should have spoken to Mansi bua and Kaku and should have taken Pakhi away. They have all rights to think about their daughter’s future. Anyone would have but to keep the third angle alive, they have not shown her parents or their views about all this. Last they said that Pakhi shouldn’t be staying in CN and should think about her future was when Virat had been to their house to call her back. That was when Sai and Virat had just got married.

Anyway, it doesn’t matter what Pakhi would actually do, people shouldn’t try to convince her to stay back in CN. They should think about her future. If Virat can’t think about Pakhi and her future, he should stop claiming that he is her friend. When he thought about what Samrat would feel when he doesn’t find Pakhi at home whenever he returns, he should have also thought if it is right to hold Pakhi back for Samrat who has not returned till now.


I have still not hibernated my account 🙈. Looks like until I don’t do it, I won’t be able to stop myself from commenting on posts or even creating new posts. I want to repeat once again that this is not a bashing post, this is just my view. I couldn’t stop myself from ranting. I had to say it out. I like both Sai and Virat and at the same time I don’t like certain actions of theirs. I have always been unhappy about this action of Virat. He should look beyond his family members and their happiness, also should stop assuming what is good for others. I am not saying he is an entirely selfish person but when it comes to his family’s happiness, he can’t seem to think about others sometimes.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Again Lakshmi, I thought it as a blooper. May be he should have been sorry for blasting on her due to injury. I did not like it too!! And the dialogue "mehsoos kar sakta hoon" is sooo off.


PS: I wil read the entire post. but this is my first reply that I agree with you :)

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Posted: 4 years ago
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100% agree with you. I was so disappointed with the whole dining table scene and with both Virat and Sai. Earlier they were just apologizing, now they ask her is this why you are mad, if so I am sorry and then repeat some promises like Sai did yesterday, I will never come between you and what ever you do, what does this even mean 🤦🤦 Kuch bhi.


Sai has mellowed down for the past few days and keeps requesting/apologizing to a vile person like Pakhi, it is beyond my liking. Does she not remember her self respect when Pakhi keep insulting her time and again and makes disgusting faces at her. It hurts me to watch Sai getting insulted so much by Pakhi 😣.


I ranted a lot on another thread yesterday for hours about my disappointment in both the husband and wife 🤣🤣

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Did he say he apologized for celebrating his wife’s birthday or did he say he regrets celebrating it ? . He said he apologize if it makes her stay for his brother’s sake. It can be for anything but it was interpreted as celebrating Sai’s birthday makes me shocked 😮 especially after he has done so much for his wife and the way he supported her against Pakhi . Sai also apologized and I am sure it was not because of her husband celebrating her birthday.


Answering your question , I am sure Sai would understand and not misunderstand him without a solid reason and she wouldn’t look for opportunities to bash him

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Loved reading your take as always, Laksh. I was also taken aback by him apologizing at first, and it really rubbed me the wrong way. I thought exactly as you did- why should he apologize to this vile woman for celebrating his own wife's birthday? But, after thinking about it some more, I understand what he was trying to do. I still don't like it, but I can kind of see his perspective.

Virat has deep guilt for Samrat to this day. We know how much he loves each and every single one of his family members, and he was even closer with Samrat. He feels remorseful for having feelings of lust (I refuse to call it love) towards his brother's wife and not telling him about it. He feels remorseful that Samrat has now disappeared, and perhaps a part of him thinks it is due to him. Even though Samrat has been gone for almost a year, he still has hope that he will return. This may seem illogical, but we hold on to the hope for those we love to return until we can't anymore. That is just how the human heart works. People don't think logically...and especially Virat, who we know feels with his whole heart and does and says things in the heat of his emotions. When Samrat returns, Virat wants his life to be full of happiness. And in his mind, that is not possible without Pakhi being there as his wife. Virat knows how much Samrat liked Pakhi, so in his mind, she is an essential part of him having a fulfilling life if and once he returns home. Yesterday, when he told Pakhi that she should stay until Samrat returns and then they can figure it out in between themselves, that spoke volumes to me. Yes, Virat knows how Pakhi is obsessed with him, but perhaps he feels that Pakhi and Samrat can have a chance at happiness together. Or, perhaps he feels that Pakhi needs to give Samrat an explanation herself... that is the very least she owns him..she cannot just disappear without properly communicating with him.

Getting back to Virat apologizing to Pakhi. I think it's important to keep in mind that he saw right through her antics and told her that he basically knows she wants to leave because of Sai's birthday and nothing else. He knew that she was just creating a drama, but still he apologized. Did he actually feel apologetic? Of course not. But, he is just like Sai in this regard. Keeping the family together and preserving the happiness of his family (in this case Samrat) is more important to him than even his own self-respect. He is so desperate for his brother to have a chance at happiness that he will do anything that he can to try to make that possible. He has also seen how attached TriMurthi are to Pakhi, so perhaps he wants her to stay for their sake as well. Again, he knows the value of family, and understands Pakhi to be a part of it.

It is interesting how you bring up that Virat promised to be Pakhi's friend and now is not fulfilling it at the expense of his wishes for his brother. I did not think about this. These are just some scattered thoughts that popped into my mind. Virat and Pakhi were never friends, they are not currently friends, and they will never be friends. We all know that Pakhi is incapable of being Virat's friend. In terms of Virat, he tried to fulfill this promise just like he tries to fulfill all his other promises that he makes in the heat of the moment... but I think we can all agree that his success rate is quite low. At the beginning, he saw Pakhi as someone he was attracted to. After he got married to Sai and Samrat got married to Pakhi, he saw Pakhi as someone who reminded him of his guilt, and someone whom he had a soft corner for not just due to their 2 days at the yoga retreat and all those emotions he thought he felt for her, but also because he felt responsible for her current state. But, as he started to get to actually know her, he started to see her true colors. At this point, he hates this woman. It is obvious. But, again, he will play nice with her and even bow his head if he needs to, for the sake of family. So, you are right, he is not her friend. To him, she is just his brother's wife and his brother's chance at happiness.

Coming to Pakhi wanting to leave the house. I do not think she had any intention of doing so. She has played this game many times before, and it has always ended with her either staying or soon after ending back at CN. This was just another outburst of her's and attempt to get some sympathy via emotional blackmailing because she could not tolerate the entire family celebrating Sai's birthday and then Ninand softening towards her. Even when she was talking about wanting a job, she was jabbing more at Sai than talking about herself.

Someone else wrote yesterday that Virat and Sai's actions are partly the reason as to why Pakhi is becoming so evil...because they give her opportunity to and constantly ask her to stay despite everything she does. I really disagree with this. Every human is responsible for their own actions. The fact that Sai and Virat ask Pakhi to stay and are willing to apologize despite not doing wrong, is a testament to their character and how they see family. It is a testament of how they love. And, the fact that Pakhi uses this against them and just becomes more manipulative is a testament of her own character. At this point, Pakhi knows that Virat is completely in love with Sai. She knows that she has no chance. So, instead of accepting it and moving on... she creates tamashas and she tries to stir up poison in their lives. Maybe she is mentally unstable or maybe she is just plain evil. But, I refuse to blame SaiRat for this vulgar woman's actions.

In terms of Sai's words... I wrote this yesterday and pasting here...

I feel for Sai every time she has to witness one of Pakhi's outbursts, because Pakhi makes Sai feel not only insecure, but also guilty. Pakhi paints a picture that Virat and her were so in love and it was all ruined by Sai coming in between. Sai's heart is pure and so she feels Pakhi's pain in this regard. And no, I am not saying that Sai does not trust Virat. I wrote about this in another post, but Sai knows with her whole heart that Virat would never cheat on her and she can clearly see that he is over Pakhi... she knows deep down that Virat is in love with her, but she is unable to label it as such. Anyways, this is not the point of what I'm saying. What I'm trying to say is that regardless of how she feels towards Virat and how she can see he feels towards her, Pakhi is a constant reminder to Sai about the vaada. She constantly makes Sai feel as if she does not belong in this house...as if it is just a deal marriage after all. So, when Sai spoke about leaving the house today, it was not about Virat... it was her own pain, guilt, and insecurities coming out. The value Sai gives to Virat in her life and how she feels about him is quite clear to me at this point. Even if she can't label or recognize it as love between a husband and wife... her actions and words are very telling. Even the small scene of the phone number today spoke volumes. And, time and time again, when her relationship with Virat has been questioned, she has firmly told the world that she is his wife and he is her husband. This marriage is the realest thing in her life... she just needs to accept it as such, but we all know that is not going to happen any time soon.

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I dont think virats apology was for the birthday. It was like- ok you have decided to throw a tantrum, I'll be the bigger person and apologize- if that makes you stop sulking, then so be it. But it's kinda silly of Virat to make her stay for Samrat. If n when samrat is back, she can decide if she wants to give her marriage a chance. She is not moving to another country! Waiting for Samrat doesn't have to be in CN. Vurat thinks samrat will be huet if his bride isnt there when he returns but on the contrary i feel, if he sees her there he will feel like shes staying for Virats sake whereas if shes gone he may feel like she moved on past Virat.

If they are requesting pp to stay because her presence makes mansi hopeful that Samrat will return, then ok. They feel like Trimurti, mansi all have an attachment to this woman so if she's talking of leaving just as a tantrum- which both Sairat can see it is- then Sairat are willing to swallow their pride. Thats their niceness n badappan. But once Pp says that she cares 2 hoots for Samrat n is only there for Virat, he should stop engaging with her in any further conversation.. even after mansi buas emotional outburst shes standing there saying - you know I'm not here for Samrat, dont bring him in between. So when she has said that, all further conversation is a moot point.

Virat was always guilty about pp. And now Sai is too after she learnt more about the vaada etc.

Sai gets guilty everytime pp starts this self victimizing drama and that breaks my heart. To watch her constantly be pushed back a few steps Everytime she tries to move forward with both virat n family.

I think both Sairat know that pp is only doing drama/tantrum and doesn't really want to stay with her parents or do a job. Its just BS. So i really wish that they stop caring at some point about her and let her figure her own shit out. Sairat need to stop feeling guilty about pp.

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Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Did he say he apologized for celebrating his wife’s birthday or did he say he regrets celebrating it ? . He said he apologize if it makes her stay for his brother’s sake. It can be for anything but it was interpreted as celebrating Sai’s birthday makes me shocked 😮 especially after he has done so much for his wife and the way he supported her against Pakhi . Sai also apologized and I am sure it was not because of her husband celebrating her birthday.


Answering your question , I am sure Sai would understand and not misunderstand him without a solid reason and she wouldn’t look for opportunities to bash him

Regrets celebrating it is even more worse actually.

Below were the dialogues from Virat

“Maine Sai ke birthday ke liye jo kuch bhi kiya, kahi iss wajah se tum ghar chodke nahi ja rahi ho?

Agar tum naraz hoke ja rahi ho….agar mera maafi maagne se tumhara gussa kam hota hai toh mein maafi maangne ko bhi tayyar hoon, I am sorry”

And even when Pakhi asked him why does he think because he celebrated Sai’s birthday she was leaving the house and he answered saying “kyunki mein mehsoos kar sakta hoon”


Me as an audience have not interpreted that he feels sorry to have celebrated Sai’s birthday, but he did apologise to her as quoted above and that is the fact. I am also shocked that my interpretation is misinterpreted.

Just because Virat supports Sai or celebrated her birthday in such a grand manner doesn’t make Virat wasn’t wrong here. Whether he apologised for his brother or anyone, the reason which he gave and apologised was wrong. He should have apologised for his behaviour towards Pakhi because that was wrong. Why for this?

Sai’s loud nature can always come across as her being harsh and a person who bashes, Virat a guy who stays mum and cries all the time, can look like a victim. I understand.

Edited by laksh - 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh


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There were many things that were wrong yesterday, Sai, Virat and Pakhi spoke things wrong. But there was one thing that I didn’t like in last night’s episode at all. Why did Virat apologise to have celebrated Sai’s birthday? He should have apologised to Pakhi, to have behaved rude with her because of the way he held her arms. That was totally wrong. He understood what was bothering Pakhi but that doesn’t mean that he apologises to have celebrated his own wife’s birthday. What are the makers trying to show? What kind of a dialogue was that? This is ridiculous. As if him wanting her to stay back for his brother’s happiness wasn’t enough that he apologised for this. If Sai had heard, it would have created more misunderstanding or may be she heard it already? Just hope she did not. Virat shouldn’t have apologised for that, not at all.

This is not a bashing post but I failed to understand this and there was no need for it. He could have said anything else. I have always been against him making Pakhi stay back for his brother’s sake.


I am not sure if Pakhi tried to gain sympathy or not, but it looked like she really wanted to leave. She had for once taken the right decision, why stop her? He knows that she has no feelings for Samrat and is not waiting for him, then why would he want her to be in the house? What makes Virat think that his brother is going to be happy with Pakhi? He is not able to tolerate Sai’s friendship with a college mate, not able to stop himself from thinking about that guy, didn’t even think before questioning Sai if she would marry Ajinkya, then how is he not thinking whether or not his brother would be okay with Pakhi? I can understand his insecurity but not some of his behavior. It is not a healthy behaviour. If he feels this way, what makes him think that Samrat and Pakhi should be together? He knows that Pakhi has feelings for him and is not able to move on from him, if he was in Samrat’s position, would he be okay with it? He once took a decision on behalf of all three, even if it was Pakhi who had ultimately decided to get married to Samrat, he did propose or request that Pakhi marries Samrat letting her down and also hiding it from his brother. When he felt betrayed that Sai hid about Devi Pulkit wedding, wouldn’t Samrat feel betrayed that he hid the relationship that he and and Pakhi had shared? Wouldn’t Samrat feel betrayed when Virat would hide what Pakhi has been doing all the while even after he returns? It would be in the best interest of Pakhi, he wouldn’t want to tarnish her image by disclosing it to his brother, but can he take all the decisions himself? Let him not reveal about Pakhi or her intentions to Samrat, he can’t think that Samrat’s happiness lies in Pakhi.


I felt the same lakshmi. Virats mistake is that he thinks only for Samrat. But one wise thing he said is that they both can decide what they want to do with their future. But till then he should let pakhi go to her parents house. Whatever his intentions are, stopping pakhi will cause only MUs. NO wonder samrat MUs him later. What he is doing is not correct, however noble his intentions are. May be he is putting himself in Pakhi shoes because he would wait for Sai indefinitely. See people impose their mental state and emotions while making decisions for others. Virat now can wait for Sai indefinitely if she goes MIA. So he thinks why pakhi cant. Strange but people cant think 'out of the box' always, do they?

Pakhi has also clearly said that she has feelings only for Virat and is in the house only for him, then why stop her? She can also get out of this mess and try to distract herself, try to move on only if she leaves this house. It is another thing that she would stay back after all these people ask her to, but he shouldn’t be thinking that Samrat and Pakhi should be together.

He has seen Samrat liking Pakhi, was mad about her but that doesn’t mean that he would make Pakhi stay back for Samrat. It sounds quite selfish. All that he wants is his brother’s happiness. Even if he thinks that Pakhi should give a chance to her marriage and things would get better after Samrat returns, it should happen only when Pakhi wants it, when she is comfortable with it. He can advice her to think about her marriage, her life with Samrat but Samrat has been missing for nearly an year and it doesn’t make sense for him to expect her to stay back for a person who might or might not return.

Pakhi can decide to stay back and wait for Samrat but no one else can expect her to. They have to look at her good too and Virat has always been failing in that. He promised to be her friend and this is one thing, I could never understand. If he is a good friend, he wouldn’t just think about his brother’s happiness, he would also look at the uncertainty of the situation and think about Pakhi’s future, her happiness too. Pakhi is mean and has been acting evil but the more she stays here, the more she watches Virat and Sai together, the more evil she is going to become.

One year is quite a long time. Some wait and some won’t but that should purely be Pakhi’s decision, not Virat’s wish or anyone else’s wish. Pakhi’s parents should have spoken to Mansi bua and Kaku and should have taken Pakhi away. They have all rights to think about their daughter’s future. Anyone would have but to keep the third angle alive, they have not shown her parents or their views about all this. Last they said that Pakhi shouldn’t be staying in CN and should think about her future was when Virat had been to their house to call her back. That was when Sai and Virat had just got married.

Anyway, it doesn’t matter what Pakhi would actually do, people shouldn’t try to convince her to stay back in CN. They should think about her future. If Virat can’t think about Pakhi and her future, he should stop claiming that he is her friend. When he thought about what Samrat would feel when he doesn’t find Pakhi at home whenever he returns, he should have also thought if it is right to hold Pakhi back for Samrat who has not returned till now.


I have still not hibernated my account 🙈. Looks like until I don’t do it, I won’t be able to stop myself from commenting on posts or even creating new posts. I want to repeat once again that this is not a bashing post, this is just my view. I couldn’t stop myself from ranting. I had to say it out. I like both Sai and Virat and at the same time I don’t like certain actions of theirs. I have always been unhappy about this action of Virat. He should look beyond his family members and their happiness, also should stop assuming what is good for others. I am not saying he is an entirely selfish person but when it comes to his family’s happiness, he can’t seem to think about others sometimes.


Please dont stop dear. We need only analysis in future track. Our love struck fools are taking us on roller coaster ride. Only Samrat can save us now.


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I dont think virats apology was for the birthday. It was like- ok you have decided to throw a tantrum, I'll be the bigger person and apologize- if that makes you stop sulking, then so be it. But it's kinda silly of Virat to make her stay for Samrat. If n when samrat is back, she can decide if she wants to give her marriage a chance. She is not moving to another country! Waiting for Samrat doesn't have to be in CN. Vurat thinks samrat will be huet if his bride isnt there when he returns but on the contrary i feel, if he sees her there he will feel like shes staying for Virats sake whereas if shes gone he may feel like she moved on past Virat.

If they are requesting pp to stay because her presence makes mansi hopeful that Samrat will return, then ok. They feel like Trimurti, mansi all have an attachment to this woman so if she's talking of leaving just as a tantrum- which both Sairat can see it is- then Sairat are willing to swallow their pride. Thats their niceness n badappan. But once Pp says that she cares 2 hoots for Samrat n is only there for Virat, he should stop engaging with her in any further conversation.. even after mansi buas emotional outburst shes standing there saying - you know I'm not here for Samrat, dont bring him in between. So when she has said that, all further conversation is a moot point.

Virat was always guilty about pp. And now Sai is too after she learnt more about the vaada etc.

Sai gets guilty everytime pp starts this self victimizing drama and that breaks my heart. To watch her constantly be pushed back a few steps Everytime she tries to move forward with both virat n family.

I think both Sairat know that pp is only doing drama/tantrum and doesn't really want to stay with her parents or do a job. Its just BS. So i really wish that they stop caring at some point about her and let her figure her own shit out. Sairat need to stop feeling guilty about pp.

I understand what you have said in the first line. That’s why I have asked what the dialogue was and have asked what the makers are trying to show. Whatever be it, he should have apologised for his behavior. I can see that he was trying to act big but why give Pakhi or anyone a wrong meaning. He should be saying that Pakhi shouldn’t have issues with him celebrating Sai’s birthday or forget even that, why even bring about the birthday? He or the dialog writers whoever it was chose the wrong words. If they wanted to show him acting big, he should have apologised to have hurt her saying if any of his actions had hurt her, he will apologise for it and then apologise.

Sai was feeling guilty but Virat only did that for his brother’s happiness. He can’t expect Pakhi to stay back for Samrat’s sake, it is not fair in anyway.

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Originally posted by: laksh

Regrets celebrating it is even more worse actually.

Below were the dialogues from Virat

“Maine Sai ke birthday ke liye jo kuch bhi kiya, kahi iss wajah se tum ghar chodke nahi ja rahi ho?

Agar tum naraz hoke ja rahi ho….agar mera maafi maagne se tumhara gussa kam hota hai toh mein maafi maangne ko bhi tayyar hoon, I am sorry”

And even when Pakhi asked him why does he think because he celebrated Sai’s birthday she was leaving the house and he answered saying “kyunki mein mehsoos kar sakta hoon”


Me as an audience have not interpreted that he feels sorry to have celebrated Sai’s birthday, but he did apologise to her as quoted above and that is the fact. I am also shocked that my interpretation is misinterpreted.

Just because Virat supports Sai or celebrated her birthday in such a grand manner doesn’t make Virat wasn’t wrong here. Whether he apologised for his brother or anyone, the reason which he gave and apologised was wrong. He should have apologised for his behaviour towards Pakhi because that was wrong. Why for this?


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Thats why consider it as a blooper and it gives you peace. I did not like the dialogues at all.

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