Ring - a gift from Virat or Virat the husband? Sai’s hesitation - Page 7

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Posted: 4 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: tptwi


This is exactly why I think he needs to tell her that this marriage is real before he confesses. He told her that she is the most special...the most different to him, and she thought he was joking. Because, how can he love her like a husband loves a wife if this marriage isn't even real? I think she knows that he likes her...or at least she can see it in his actions and the way he looks at her. That is why she keeps probing him to figure out if her feelings about him are accurate, and yet they just keep spinning in circles because of what I have written in numerous other posts in this topic.

In terms of the physicality, what you have written really does remind me of the ladoo scene. He was getting close to her, and she was liking it. But, when he took a bit from the ladoo, she was once again brought back to reality, telling him that he's really bad. She felt stupid for thinking that this attraction...these feelings that she is experiences are real. It's all there....there just needs to be an open and honest conversation between the two.

You write what I have in mind yaar 😀. I just wrote about this joking part. I agree with what you have written in this comment. Yes, in the laddoo scene, she felt like a stupid for thinking that way.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sadiltl

Yes bang on you said it right. I would be insecure too.


But what is the reason for her insecurity

1. She knows he doesnt leave her

2. She knows he cares for her, deeply

3. She knows now that he likes her.


So what else? only thing that is missing that makes it real. CVs have to be more explicit with her feelings and monologues. It is confusing otherwise. We are discussing and sharing ideas here in the forum, what about TRP aunties. They will be racking their brains.

Doesn’t know if he can ever love her, give a place for her in his heart. Liking and loving are not the same. Even if she hasn’t realised her feelings for him, she would want this relationship to be a relationship of love and not a married couple. See what I mean? I have written another comment on this thread and have tagged you.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thats what I want to clarify. Love means what. What does it encompass? He is very clear he likes her. There is no commitment. Today by taunting her with Ajikyas wife remark, he said he want her to be 'his' wife. So it is all confusing to me. May be the dialogues are off.


So is she ok to have love like her aabas, unconditional, but no physical relationship? I am trying to understand where she is coming from. love between a man and wife cannot be the same as other loves right. How else can he prove her that she is special? all the great love stories in the histroy have the 'intention' to share physical love. Whether you can do away with it or not comes later depending on the understanding between the couple.


I dont know, I will wait for the episodes though. But yeah this thread has been really interesting to see all the PoVs.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: laksh

@bold this is exactly what I think too. First or second doesn’t matter, all that matters to her is if she matters to him in a way he matters to her. If he can give a place in his heart to her even if he establishes this marriage as real. When he accepts the marriage, it freaks her out because she is worried that he will accept the marriage but he would not be able to love her. His words that he won’t be able to give a place to anyone else in his heart seemed to be real ever since she met Pakhi. It looked as though they both were in love and they couldn’t get together. That thought makes her think if Virat would be able to ever love anyone else. She doesn’t understand or know what kind of relationship they both shared. She doesn’t have a clue that his waada was given for his brother’s happiness and not because he valued his love for Pakhi. The whole commitment makes it look like he and Pakhi wanted to spend saathon janam together 🤣.

Her dialogue about “I don’t like such things as even a joke” meant a lot, spoke volumes. It showed how much he affects her. She doesn’t want him to joke about it because the whole thing means a lot to her. She is trying to run away from him and if he jokes and she takes it seriously, it would mean that she might start having expectations from him which she is not sure whether she can have or not. His “I like you, have started to like you” scared her away because she liked it, because it was melting her, because she will then start building hopes within her, because she will start to dream of a life with him and she wanted to stop him right there yesterday so that he doesn’t entertain or encourage any such thoughts within her. Her intention wasn’t to stop him from making the rishtha real, her intention was to stop him to make a joke out of their relationship more than what it already was and hence she freaked out. She is ready to accept him, his love, the relationship but only when she actually knows that he really means it, he really wants it that way, not because that is how it ought to be because they both are a married couple.

When he had said that if she returns the ring, their relationship will end, she spoke about leaving the house. The reason being, as per her their relationship has an expiry date and that is when she finishes her studies. And it ends by her leaving the house. Hence, as soon as he spoke that, she brought up about her leaving the house saying, she would always wear it even after she leaves the house but asked if he would be okay if she comes to meet him. When he spoke about end of relationship, she couldn’t stop herself from getting anxious about not getting to meet him and hence wanted to know if he would be okay for her to visit him. It has created an unsettling feeling in her which always comes out in words like this from her mouth as she doesn’t know how to express that she doesn’t want to leave him, she doesn’t understand why she feels bad even though she knows she can’t stay forever with him and it comes out in talks like this.

Her dialogue about getting blessings from him will imbibe some of his qualities in her spoke a lot of things. She appreciates him and his qualities and would like her to develop those. I was a little happy that she had immediately clarified calmly saying “aisa aapko lagta hoga” and appreciated his gestures. All this was only until she heard him saying he likes her because she can’t tolerate it if it is a joke. Just like how Virat couldn’t believe that Sai can like him, she also is not able to believe when she heard it from him like this. Sunny had explained to Virat that Sai is bothered or jealous when Virat talks to Pakhi which was like a reason, a theory to believe that Sai might have feelings for him. Sai is single and still Virat couldn’t believe it. Sunny was there to explain him at that point of time. Now when Virat has openly expressed it, Sai doesn’t want to keep her hopes high for it to get shattered. This is coming from a person who used to like and love someone else so much that he had given a lifelong commitment and hence she is unable to believe it. Sunny could use Sai’s jealousy or possessiveness to substantiate what he was claiming, Sai doesn’t have any one like Sunny who could make her see these things and also didn’t have any reasons or couldn’t think of reasons at that moment of time to substantiate or believe that Virat probably has started fo develop feelings for her.

I am not sure how much I could convey Sai’s feelings or thought process, just tried to. She looked like a machli who could be taken away from water if she gets to hear those things from Virat. Virat is the water she is swimming in now, he has subconsciously has become her life but she is worried that if she starts to build hopes, starts to dream, starts to develop any feelings for him based on what he is saying, after she has always tried to not feel for him, tried not to have expectations from him for so long, after she had always raised her walls high, she is worried that she will break out from this and be deprived of her life, the water, Virat. Just like how Virat thinks Sai will freak out or move away from him, Sai is worried that she might move towards him only to result in a heartbreak if all that she had thought proves to be just her assumptions.


I won’t be around much for discussion starting from tomorrow the next few weeks I think. Have to try to control myself from staying away from the forum 🤣. I am going on a vacation next week, so won’t be that active or even come online the next few weeks much. Will try and respond to tags whenever possible but please don’t mistake if I am not actively participating or responding to some tags sometimes. Fortunately or unfortunately I am travelling during the dreaded track, I can avoid the discussion but I also would miss discussing with you all. I couldn’t even post an episode analysis today. I have written just a part of it and will try to see if I can finish it. The problem is that I won’t be able to respond to anyone’s reply even if I post it, hence I am thinking whether or not I should post it.

Bye guys. I will try to pop in once in a while. Take care all. Will miss discussing with you guys. Please do tag me so that I can read them whenever I can, even if I can’t reply to them.


@rdigest tagging you so that I can share what I thought was Sai’s issues and mindset in yesterday’s episode since I couldn’t respond to your quote/reply.


Laksh, this is so beautifully put. And, once again, I am always in awe of how much we think alike. I just wrote on another post somewhere (can't even keep track anymore) that the reason Sai told Virat not to joke was because she is so completely terrified of having her expectations built up and shattered. Ayesha's expressions yesterday spoke volumes. She looked shocked at certain things Virat was saying, broken during others...but throughout it all, you could see a girl completely in love. I agree with what you have said about Sai being ready to accept it all right now, which I think is the unpopular opinion as of now. She just needs verbal affirmation... and not the jalebi kind, from Virat. All she needs is to give herself permission to accept Virat's love and accept her own too....but that cannot happen without Virat's clarification.

Also, I'm really going to miss you while you are away from the forum..especially because we will have so much to discuss during this upcoming track. Please do tag me and say hello whenever you decide to pay us a visit next.

Edited by tptwi - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Wonderful analysis ❤️

Here is my 2 cents.

I believe that every relationship has so much to explore. In this show SaiRat's emotional sides are being explored .But today episode was disappointing in many ways as well intense many ways. disappointing because all these tracks from ousting to birthday no such progression is seen. Even though I am liking the slow pace but at the same times its getting little monotonous watching this two blabbering on the same topic " wada".

Intense because both are so much in love that they scared to even confess.

Sai is deeply hurt because Virat promised to love another woman during their wedding vows. At that time she needed a emotional support from this new relationship rather a guardian. Alas Now Virats own words replied him back in a harsh way. Now he can't even confess his love to his wife because Sai completely brushed off the very thought of being both in love.

What I felt Sai truly needs to mend her ways from her childish approach. She is no longer her Aabas little child but an woman who has long tough journey ahead. According to her She will leave Virat once she completes her degree , Has she given any thoughts about that how life can become without a family???

I loved two dialogues in the entire episode

When virat said " I don't like dwelling on the past ".

Very practical approach. One who keeps on bringing the never can move forward in life. But sometimes we need to learn from our past mistakes.

and when Sai said "If anything there was to happen between us it would have been done by now"

So true. Two individuals who are extremely attracted to each other still finds it hard to fathom out their feelings.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rdigest

Beautiful write up. Responses in bold.

Thanks for the reply. I don't know how I missed it.

Sai was contradicting herself so much..it was so confusing.

I understand Virat's frustration - but that dialogue still made me uncomfortable. More than the words, it was the tone in which he said it i think.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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This is what I understand from our discussions.

Sai has registered the "I like you" and she liked it. I could see she was distressed, nervous and trying to run away. I just could not understand her contradictory actions - stopping him from expressing himself and then disappointed that she didn't get the confirmation of their status from Virat.

From what I understood from your and laksh's post - Sai is glad that Virat likes her, but does not want to build castles in the air. She stops him from expressing himself - because she doesn't want to hear another jalebi that will only raise her expectation and wants him to cut to the chase - and so probes him with "what is the status of our marriage"?

Edited by nethraa_99 - 4 years ago

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Will miss your analysis in the coming weeks . Wish you have a great time!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Will miss your analysis in the coming weeks . Wish you have a great time!

Thank you 😊

Will miss having discussions with you. Please do tag me in your posts, would be able to read, if not for reply.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

This is what I understand from our discussions.

Sai has registered the "I like you" and she liked it. I could see she was distressed, nervous and trying to run away. I just could not understand her contradictory actions - stopping him from expressing himself and then disappointed that she didn't get the confirmation of their status from Virat.

From what I understood from your and laksh's post - Sai is glad that Virat likes her, but does not want to build castles in the air. She stops him from expressing himself - because she doesn't want to hear another jalebi that will only raise her expectation and wants him to cut to the chase - and so probes him with "what is the status of our marriage"?

Exactly 😆

Also her impulsive and impatient drives her actions but I look at it also as a mirror image of her turmoil, her emotions.

She doesn't want to entertain or does not have patience to listen to or tolerate anymore of his beating around the bush words and so would resort to stop him, interrupt him by making jokes or acting rude with him and at the same time would get hurt with his response because she is not happy with it, would have wished after he responded that he could have said something else but at the same time would blame herself for how she could expect anything from him or get carried away with emotions when she knows that is not possible.

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