Ring - a gift from Virat or Virat the husband? Sai’s hesitation - Page 6

I think of physicality here because, I have a sneak into KDs story. But here it is more clear due to dialogues and they did change a bit.

In KD, the night before virat leaves for transfer, they sleep on the bed (no pillow fort) and Virat touches her from the back. She is expectant and likes it. When he removers his hand, she gets jolted, and she 'immediately' brings back the ghost story and hugs him into sleep. There was a monologue but did not understand. It is like she was ready to take the next step and gets disappointed when he doesnt.

But from yesterday's episode and dialogues, I felt it is clearer that for her real marriage is something that comes with everything. Otherwise, his words yesterday are very much straight forward. I am going to wait for today's episode though.

Honestly, yesterday's episode was confusing. period.

Yes bang on you said it right. I would be insecure too.

But what is the reason for her insecurity

1. She knows he doesnt leave her

2. She knows he cares for her, deeply

3. She knows now that he likes her.

So what else? only thing that is missing that makes it real. CVs have to be more explicit with her feelings and monologues. It is confusing otherwise. We are discussing and sharing ideas here in the forum, what about TRP aunties. They will be racking their brains.

I'm just now going through a few posts...every post is bringing a different angle to Sai's emotional state and everyone's POV is convincing. It's just that I'm not able to put my finger on this exactly....I am still pretty confused about the episode.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

I agree that Virat has not been explicit. What made me conclude that it will require a lot more to convince Sai to lower her gaurd is the sheer lack of belief. If she had 'rejected' him or thrown uncomfortable questions at him or even diverted the topic, it would have been understandable, expected. But that monologue from her - it carried too much emotional turmoil and lack of belief.

The deal marriage created a huge barrier between them - but other factors probably added layer after layer to the barrier and created an immovable wall of disbelief and despair.

Sai does trust Virat with her life - she trusts him as a person, trusts his integrity. But trusting a person is different from trusting a husband. If I was Virat's wife, I would be highly insecure.

Just my take...could be wrong.

We are all just giving our takes here trying to make sense of the episode yesterday 🤣 I love discussing with you, because it helps me think deeper.

I agree that trusting a person is different than trusting a husband. I guess my viewpoint is still more than Sai doesn't that Virat IS her husband more than not trusting him AS her husband... if that makes sense. She is definitely insecure due to the vaada, everything that ensued after the marriage with Virat siding with Pakhi many times, and just downright living in the same house as both Virat and Pakhi. That is enough to make even the most secure person insecure. But, a lot of time has passed since then, and she has seen how Virat has changed...both towards herself and towards Pakhi. I would repeat what I said earlier in that every time Sai questions Virat, she wants him to give her the answer that says everything she is feeling herself and sensing from him is real. Her inner monologue conveyed this to me more than anything else. Upon hearing that the ring is just a birthday gift, which she herself pushed Virat to say, she was dejected... he told herself why would she even think or say otherwise. Because again, she was pushed back into the reality that she has created for herself..the reality where she refuses to label the love she sees from Virat as that of a husband...

Originally posted by: sadiltl

I think of physicality here because, I have a sneak into KDs story. But here it is more clear due to dialogues and they did change a bit.

In KD, the night before virat leaves for transfer, they sleep on the bed (no pillow fort) and Virat touches her from the back. She is expectant and likes it. When he removers his hand, she gets jolted, and she 'immediately' brings back the ghost story and hugs him into sleep. There was a monologue but did not understand. It is like she was ready to take the next step and gets disappointed when he doesnt.

But from yesterday's episode and dialogues, I felt it is clearer that for her real marriage is something that comes with everything. Otherwise, his words yesterday are very much straight forward. I am going to wait for today's episode though.

Honestly, yesterday's episode was confusing. period.

I agree with you that physicality is 100% a part of it. That is why I keep brining up the laddoo example because honestly that's the only one we really have 🤣It is similar to what you have described in this scene of KD with him touching her and her getting jolted when he takes his hand away.

I also agree that for her, a real marriage comes with everything. But, I can't help but still think that if Virat were to clear up the past...tell her what actually happened between him and Pakhi (basically nothing), tells her that he regrets making the vaada, tells her that this is all real...then she will finally be able to accept her own feelings and his feelings as well...

And of course, we will never get these scenes from Vankar.

I hope that they continue the conversation in tonight's episode.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

I used to think that if Virat were to tell Sai “Pakhi was my past. She is now my brother’s wife. I want to close that chapter and start a new life with you in a real marriage” Sai will begin to lower her wall. But looking at today’s episode, it doesn't seem like that is going to be enough. A proposal will totally freak her out too. It will take a lot more to convince her that Virat really wants her. It all boils down to trust – I don't think she trusts him enough as a husband. If Virat had said the above words during the initial days of their marriage, she might have considered it.

This is what I felt aswell , at this point even if Virat says I love you to Sai she will reject him point blank and serve some Jalebis.

Virat’s POV - According to him, Sai didn't want this marriage as much as him. So according to him, both of them started the marriage on the same foot.

Yes and he even mentioned this during the last confrontation about Ajiyanka and how he is a boy.

A few dialogues that confounded me today and broke the flow of logic. Virat confessed that he likes her in a non-platonic way – and Sai did register it. I'm left with no clue as to how she interpreted it. I'm amazed how easily the conversation slipped from such a crucial statement!

Virat clearly said he likes her and she clearly said she doesn't like to hear this even as a joke 😆 and Virat clarified he is not joking. I don't see what other options Virat is left with at this point other then getting rejected eyerytime. In a way he deserves this since he was the one who started the deal and Vaada rant during and after the wedding. So we might see more Jalebis from Sai now for all the straight talks from Virat.

From this point onwards, (to me)Sai seemed to be keen on avoiding the topic – she stopped him twice when he wanted to talk about upgrading their relationship. When Virat presents the ring, Sai as if gathering up some reservoir of grit, tells him that she cannot accept his gift if it is given by husband to a wife. When I first saw this scene, this declaration from Sai looked like a response to Virat’s “I like you”. So I interpreted the scene as a sort of proposal (“I like you”)+rejection in jalebi format.

But Sai’s inner monologue left me confounded. I would have understood if Sai had felt bad at Virat’s answer but her monologue looked like that sentence was made to probe him – in a momentary loss of self- control.

This after she clearly said she doesn't want to hear this even as a joke a few moments ago and her literally blackmailing him about not accepting the ring if it was from a husband. She basically made him say the ring is a birthday gift and not a husbands gift to wife as a token of love. After this comes the main monologue about Pakhi, basically nothing Virat said is registering in her brain after the deal and Vaada talks and she is not willing to listen to him either.

P.S. I didn't like Virat’s comment on Sai-Ajinkya. I understand his insecurity and jealousy but as of now Sai has not given him any reason to suppose anything brewing with Ajinkya. I would not have minded an angry yelling – like in Aniket track but that comment was below the belt. I've never been find of jealousy tracks – either someone getting jealous or making someone jealous. This whole track is focused on that, so I'm preparing myself to a lot of discomfort.

This dialogue infact did not seem weird or out of place to me. It seemed more of a follow up conversation of Sai not liking Virat and him being old. So, he asked would you like someone like Ajiyanka as husband since you seem to like every thing in him. These kind of conversations are pretty normal between husband wife.

Beautiful write up. Responses in bold.

You may be right. We really need Sai's monologues tomorrow. She was one jalebi bai today...sangath ka asar..😅

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

@bold That was so cleverly worded...👍

You may be right. We really need Sai's monologues tomorrow. She was one jalebi bai today...sangath ka asar..😅

I completely agree. The writers seriously need to give us more monologues from Sai! Virat has been getting a lot more lately, which has been amazing.

I guess we will get a maha monologue from Sai for the maha kaand that is about to happen....

Originally posted by: tptwi

Really nicely put. I think it is especially heartbreaking, because little does Sai know, she is his first love too. Virat even indirectly told her in the car yesterday when he said that he has never said those words to anyone before.

You know, to me, it seems as though it's not even about first or second choices for Sai. At this point, it is just about Virat choosing her. Period. She wants to hear it from him that he has chosen her...accepted her as his real wife. I truly believe that she sees that Pakhi is nothing to him now in the same way she sees that the way he treats her is way deeper than a zimidari. This birthday track has made that even clearer than it already was. But, again, seeing all of this is not enough for her. She Virat to affirm her beliefs and tell her that she is not just imagining all of this...

@bold this is exactly what I think too. First or second doesn’t matter, all that matters to her is if she matters to him in a way he matters to her. If he can give a place in his heart to her even if he establishes this marriage as real. When he accepts the marriage, it freaks her out because she is worried that he will accept the marriage but he would not be able to love her. His words that he won’t be able to give a place to anyone else in his heart seemed to be real ever since she met Pakhi. It looked as though they both were in love and they couldn’t get together. That thought makes her think if Virat would be able to ever love anyone else. She doesn’t understand or know what kind of relationship they both shared. She doesn’t have a clue that his waada was given for his brother’s happiness and not because he valued his love for Pakhi. The whole commitment makes it look like he and Pakhi wanted to spend saathon janam together 🤣.

Her dialogue about “I don’t like such things as even a joke” meant a lot, spoke volumes. It showed how much he affects her. She doesn’t want him to joke about it because the whole thing means a lot to her. She is trying to run away from him and if he jokes and she takes it seriously, it would mean that she might start having expectations from him which she is not sure whether she can have or not. His “I like you, have started to like you” scared her away because she liked it, because it was melting her, because she will then start building hopes within her, because she will start to dream of a life with him and she wanted to stop him right there yesterday so that he doesn’t entertain or encourage any such thoughts within her. Her intention wasn’t to stop him from making the rishtha real, her intention was to stop him to make a joke out of their relationship more than what it already was and hence she freaked out. She is ready to accept him, his love, the relationship but only when she actually knows that he really means it, he really wants it that way, not because that is how it ought to be because they both are a married couple.

When he had said that if she returns the ring, their relationship will end, she spoke about leaving the house. The reason being, as per her their relationship has an expiry date and that is when she finishes her studies. And it ends by her leaving the house. Hence, as soon as he spoke that, she brought up about her leaving the house saying, she would always wear it even after she leaves the house but asked if he would be okay if she comes to meet him. When he spoke about end of relationship, she couldn’t stop herself from getting anxious about not getting to meet him and hence wanted to know if he would be okay for her to visit him. It has created an unsettling feeling in her which always comes out in words like this from her mouth as she doesn’t know how to express that she doesn’t want to leave him, she doesn’t understand why she feels bad even though she knows she can’t stay forever with him and it comes out in talks like this.

Her dialogue about getting blessings from him will imbibe some of his qualities in her spoke a lot of things. She appreciates him and his qualities and would like her to develop those. I was a little happy that she had immediately clarified calmly saying “aisa aapko lagta hoga” and appreciated his gestures. All this was only until she heard him saying he likes her because she can’t tolerate it if it is a joke. Just like how Virat couldn’t believe that Sai can like him, she also is not able to believe when she heard it from him like this. Sunny had explained to Virat that Sai is bothered or jealous when Virat talks to Pakhi which was like a reason, a theory to believe that Sai might have feelings for him. Sai is single and still Virat couldn’t believe it. Sunny was there to explain him at that point of time. Now when Virat has openly expressed it, Sai doesn’t want to keep her hopes high for it to get shattered. This is coming from a person who used to like and love someone else so much that he had given a lifelong commitment and hence she is unable to believe it. Sunny could use Sai’s jealousy or possessiveness to substantiate what he was claiming, Sai doesn’t have any one like Sunny who could make her see these things and also didn’t have any reasons or couldn’t think of reasons at that moment of time to substantiate or believe that Virat probably has started fo develop feelings for her.

I am not sure how much I could convey Sai’s feelings or thought process, just tried to. She looked like a machli who could be taken away from water if she gets to hear those things from Virat. Virat is the water she is swimming in now, he has subconsciously has become her life but she is worried that if she starts to build hopes, starts to dream, starts to develop any feelings for him based on what he is saying, after she has always tried to not feel for him, tried not to have expectations from him for so long, after she had always raised her walls high, she is worried that she will break out from this and be deprived of her life, the water, Virat. Just like how Virat thinks Sai will freak out or move away from him, Sai is worried that she might move towards him only to result in a heartbreak if all that she had thought proves to be just her assumptions.

I won’t be around much for discussion starting from tomorrow the next few weeks I think. Have to try to control myself from staying away from the forum 🤣. I am going on a vacation next week, so won’t be that active or even come online the next few weeks much. Will try and respond to tags whenever possible but please don’t mistake if I am not actively participating or responding to some tags sometimes. Fortunately or unfortunately I am travelling during the dreaded track, I can avoid the discussion but I also would miss discussing with you all. I couldn’t even post an episode analysis today. I have written just a part of it and will try to see if I can finish it. The problem is that I won’t be able to respond to anyone’s reply even if I post it, hence I am thinking whether or not I should post it.

Bye guys. I will try to pop in once in a while. Take care all. Will miss discussing with you guys. Please do tag me so that I can read them whenever I can, even if I can’t reply to them.

@rdigest tagging you so that I can share what I thought was Sai’s issues and mindset in yesterday’s episode since I couldn’t respond to your quote/reply.