This Sloppiness Really Has To Stop - Page 6

You have just read our minds I had a doubt when I watched tear wiping Virat (body double) hug scene that this could be ajinkya but now you confirmed it. I always had thought about that important scenes especially sairat romantic scenes abruptly gets cut this makes me lose my interest to watch.

Honestly if you ask me, what you see in Sairat scenes or Virakhi scenes, both are human going by actors perspective and callousness going by direction.

You are an actor for a scene, and in general a normal human being. So for any scene, be it love scene or a hate scene, a confrontation or casual talk, when the woman who you have a scene with is you real life partner you tend to be a tad bit close to her than required. There is no personal spaces defined there in general. There is hesitation or a chance of being misunderstood. Its a natural body reaction to the presence of someone who you are intimate with in general. Here the director needs to come in picture and tell them that Virat and Pakhi are not Devar Bhabhi, but also people who are not supposed to be this close to each other because of the equation they share. The argument or the confrontation is coming out to be the one between two lovers, extremely angry with each other.. Its not supposed to look passionate, when you mute the scene. Its supposed to look angry , disgusted at from Virat's perspective specifically. Pakhi would not mind the distance anyway.

Today the scene between the two looked like Virat is fighting for his sister who is jaan , with a woman he might be falling in love with and yet hates her. Mujhe dard ho raha hai, that scene reminded me of so many lovers on ITV...and the proximity well, it kind of disoriented me

Now coming to Sairat scenes.. The actors are cordial and professional. The actors who brush each other like colleagues when they talk in general. So when the shoot a scene be it love scene or a hate scene, a confrontation or casual talk, they start with keeping a distance, so that the other actor specially the woman is not uncomfortable of too much touch. The distance has to be reduced by the command of the director , the director has to tell them for every scene between them that you are a couple and you are to behave like that, there should be comfort physically , the comfort should not be the one that you share as colleagues or friends. And that should be for all the scenes and not specifically for the scenes that is meant to be specifically intimate...like the holi kiss, the laddoo scene or the almost kiss. Today the scene between Sai and Virat even in the bandage scene looked fake. The blow looked fake, the getting some one in the room looked fake..You dont get someone you love , who is hurt by keeping your body far away and just holding the elbow with a light brush.. Now in Indian TV..

Now if you look at it from audience perspective, they would not question Virat Pakhi scenes if they see that closeness between Sairat. The lack of it makes them question it. For instance very carefully see the scene, where Virat turns towards Sai to tell her, he will aid her hurt but he still chooses to stand near Pakhi and not go to Sai. The scene looks like from an angle that the other two are a couple and this one is the third one. In general anyone would immediately get back to the woman who he is in love with and his hurt, because of the woman who you are standing close to, after giving her the much desired lashing. I expected him to move and yet for that scene he kept standing there and talking to Sai about how he will treat her..Not getting to her holding her and speaking to her about it. Virat is so loving so tender that he would do that and top of that he is in love with Sai..Such basic physical touches are a result of the growth they are seeing. He would also be touching her assure himself that she is fine along with assuring her, and not talk from 3ft apart about treating her. This is where an accomplished actor like Neil failed ,and expert actor who is known for improvising scenes, who goes beyond scripts even in scenes where he is just a spectator failed today. The expectation from him is not be close to Ayesha in scenes, thats for the director to point out, but to be a bit away from Aishwarya who is also his fiance and in the show KBA for him, that is also for the director to point out but then Neil holds so much experience in the field, understand Virat in and out and yet fails to realise how he is failing such crucial scenes between these three leads. He can obviously afford to stay far way from the woman who is KBA on the show for the character he is living at the moment, keeping in mind the expertise he holds in this field and certainly is not expected to be close to the other actor who is his wife in and romantic interest in this show without director's call. The very important scene, today failed for me.

For the first time I feel Rono was better in KD, specifically in this scene.I am too upset to say this but that how I see it right now.

PS: Not bashing Neil , expecting him to understand Virat in scenes with KBA as well because he understands and also demonstrates Virat above and beyond the script.

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Honestly if you ask me, what you see in Sairat scenes or Virakhi scenes, both are human going by actors perspective and callousness going by direction.

You are an actor for a scene, and in general a normal human being. So for any scene, be it love scene or a hate scene, a confrontation or casual talk, when the woman who you have a scene with is you real life partner you tend to be a tad bit close to her than required. There is no personal spaces defined there in general. There is hesitation or a chance of being misunderstood. Its a natural body reaction to the presence of someone who you are intimate with in general. Here the director needs to come in picture and tell them that Virat and Pakhi are not Devar Bhabhi, but also people who are not supposed to be this close to each other because of the equation they share. The argument or the confrontation is coming out to be the one between two lovers, extremely angry with each other.. Its not supposed to look passionate, when you mute the scene. Its supposed to look angry , disgusted at from Virat's perspective specifically. Pakhi would not mind the distance anyway.

Today the scene between the two looked like Virat is fighting for his sister who is jaan , with a woman he might be falling in love with and yet hates her. Mujhe dard ho raha hai, that scene reminded me of so many lovers on ITV...and the proximity well, it kind of disoriented me

Now coming to Sairat scenes.. The actors are cordial and professional. The actors who brush each other like colleagues when they talk in general. So when the shoot a scene be it love scene or a hate scene, a confrontation or casual talk, they start with keeping a distance, so that the other actor specially the woman is not uncomfortable of too much touch. The distance has to be reduced by the command of the director , the director has to tell them for every scene between them that you are a couple and you are to behave like that, there should be comfort physically , the comfort should not be the one that you share as colleagues or friends. And that should be for all the scenes and not specifically for the scenes that is meant to be specifically intimate...like the holi kiss, the laddoo scene or the almost kiss. Today the scene between Sai and Virat even in the bandage scene looked fake. The blow looked fake, the getting some one in the room looked fake..You dont get someone you love , who is hurt by keeping your body far away and just holding the elbow with a light brush.. Now in Indian TV..

Now if you look at it from audience perspective, they would not question Virat Pakhi scenes if they see that closeness between Sairat. The lack of it makes them question it. For instance very carefully see the scene, where Virat turns towards Sai to tell her, he will aid her hurt but he still chooses to stand near Pakhi and not go to Sai. The scene looks like from an angle that the other two are a couple and this one is the third one. In general anyone would immediately get back to the woman who he is in love with and his hurt, because of the woman who you are standing close to, after giving her the much desired lashing. I expected him to move and yet for that scene he kept standing there and talking to Sai about how he will treat her..Not getting to her holding her and speaking to her about it. Virat is so loving so tender that he would do that and top of that he is in love with Sai..Such basic physical touches are a result of the growth they are seeing. He would also be touching her assure himself that she is fine along with assuring her, and not talk from 3ft apart about treating her. This is where an accomplished actor like Neil failed ,and expert actor who is known for improvising scenes, who goes beyond scripts even in scenes where he is just a spectator failed today. The expectation from him is not be close to Ayesha in scenes, thats for the director to point out, but to be a bit away from Aishwarya who is also his fiance and in the show KBA for him, that is also for the director to point out but then Neil holds so much experience in the field, understand Virat in and out and yet fails to realise how he is failing such crucial scenes between these three leads. He can obviously afford to stay far way from the woman who is KBA on the show for the character he is living at the moment, keeping in mind the expertise he holds in this field and certainly is not expected to be close to the other actor who is his wife in and romantic interest in this show without director's call. The very important scene, today failed for me.

For the first time I feel Rono was better in KD, specifically in this scene.I am too upset to say this but that how I see it right now.

PS: Not bashing Neil , expecting him to understand Virat in scenes with KBA as well because he understands and also demonstrates Virat above and beyond the script.

I think you should make a new post. Very nicely put. 👏👏

Originally posted by: tptwi

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What to say yaar. Nothing is left. I just watching it in day to day basis that's all I have given upon them. No use telling anything because I don't think they r going to change.

Originally posted by: Sera-high123

I don't know what to say?? What is this?? Is no one watching there scenes?? Isn't Sairat the most important part of Ghum??

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The proximity in the 3rd picture that you have shared is bothering me. I think Sairat are the couple in the show but it doesn’t look like from what I am watching. I am not saying they have given us a lot of Virat Pakhi scenes, but whatever should be in the Sairat scene is not in the Sairat scenes but is instead is in the Virat Pakhi scenes. I don’t know whose fault it is but I believe that EVERYONE is supposed to take care of it. It is the directors job to check what they are giving us, how it would come across. It is the actor’s job also to maintain a reasonable distance from his ex cum bhabhi whom he knows has feelings for her. It could be that he is very comfortable but as an experienced actor, an actor who can emote every single thing so well, who improvises scenes in his own ways, who says he has based Virat on himself, I think should also be careful as to where to stand, how close to stand in scenes.

As an audience I would have expected this proximity with the on screen partner but I am not able to see that. In all these months that we have been watching, this is something that I have always had issues with. Of course the editing is poor, direction is also poor. Why does it happen only to Sairat scenes that they would cut a scene? Why should there be editing issues only in Sairat scenes? Don’t they not want to show us at all? What are the makers or the directors thinking?

Forget all these months, in just today’s episode, I can see a huge contrast between Sairat scenes and Virat Pakhi scenes. Why should it be that way? How can it be that way? I have been thinking to write this post, ever since I watched the sbs segment but wanted to wait till I watched the episode.

The distance that is clearly visible when he sits next to Sai in Pakhi’s room, his hands on her shoulder, then sitting in their room with him blowing her wound from such a distance, is all so visible. He could whisper going so close to Pakhi near the dining table, but is not one bit close to the wife whom he says he loves, whom he doubts has feelings for him? Does it even make sense as a viewer to me? I would say that he would only be using these as opportunities to get more close to Sai. Fine, she is injured so he wouldn’t think of going close but that’s a natural thing he would do when she is wife right? Let’s take how Virat Pakhi is that close, it shows their comfort level. As per the story line, shouldn’t we see that comfort level naturally coming between Virat and Sai and whatever Neil and Ayesha are having in Sairat scenes should be how Virat and Pakhi should have onscreen? I think everyone has to see that contrast on the screen. Whatever I am seeing on the screen is acceptable in a sbs segment, in offscreen interviews but no on screen scenes. How can the directors be blind to it? What are they even thinking?

Why should ever hug be cut in a few seconds time? I am sorry but how much ever I like Sairat, the scenes are continuously looking like cute scenes than romantic scenes. I don’t see an intensity in it. The lack of proximity, lack of something else is clearly visible in Sairat scenes. Anyone watching the show from the recent episodes will think that Sai and Virat has probably got married only now and are getting comfortable as room mates. The truth is we have got to see their growth for a very long time and Sai and Virat share a really good comfort level but even then I cannot find that on the screen past few weeks. I need to be able to see the growth that they have been trying to show us in the past few months. Whatever they were sharing right after marriage is not what I see. I do not see a physical tension between them. Every hug of them, every scene has been made look platonic and I am not even able to understand the reason behind it. The laddoo scene was the only scene where I could see them trying to show something.

I am not in here for only romantic scenes. I have loved Sairat from the start, the bond that they have shared from the start, it was a treat to watch them bond, fight have cute banters, develop an emotional bond between them. I have always enjoyed their fights, it screamed their love for each other. When they could create a very nice chemistry with them standing feet apart or just by some accidental hugs in the past like the chipkali one or the suitcase one, why am I not able to see the same chemistry in other scenes that they have been giving us off late? How good their chemistry would look when scenes are directed as how they should be, when the editing is as how it should be and when they work on the proximity between the leads.

Anyone watching these scenes might be thinking Virat Pakhi are couple and Virat is acting as a guardian for Sai. Please makers, pay attention to these and work on the quality of your content. It is becoming unbearable to watch scenes like those in these pictures. These are just some examples, there are many many pictures that one can share of Sairat where the distance is always evident.

Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

His hand don't even touch sai properly in many scenes including today's one. Do they think we are too blind to not see such things.

Looks like they want us to act blind.

Originally posted by: Magnifique

I'm annoyed too. Dialogues of virat were good but he was into paapi personal space. Being a veteran actor I expected Neil to be aware of such things.

We didn't even get proper sairat cake feeding scene !!! It was random flying hands dropping bit of dunnowhat like hot potato in the mouth. What's this carelessness for sairat scenes. They don't have basic respect for fans.

Who needs to see those balloons and dress packed in such a huge gift box? All that they needed to show importantly in this birthday celebration was cake cutting and cake feeding. They couldn’t even show us that?

Exactly the problem, him into her personal space. That’s how it looks and it is not one bit right. Are they telling us that Virat doesn’t know not to get into one’s personal space. If they wouldn’t want us to think about Virat like that, they should ensure it is not conveyed through such scenes which would then force people to think wrong about him.

Even a child would know not to enter into other’s personal space.

Originally posted by: laksh

Who needs to see those balloons and dress packed in such a huge gift box? All that they needed to show importantly in this birthday celebration was cake cutting and cake feeding. They couldn’t even show us that?

Exactly the problem, him into her personal space. That’s how it looks and it is not one bit right. Are they telling us that Virat doesn’t know not to get into one’s personal space. If they wouldn’t want us to think about Virat like that, they should ensure it is not conveyed through such scenes which would then force people to think wrong about him.

Even a child knows not to enter into other’s personal space.

He is all up in paapi space but for sairat normal scenes, he is looming from far as if he'll catch something contagious if he touches her.

He can only give expressions from far for sairat but there is no such issue in virakhi scenes. Either keep all the scenes same but don't show such contrast between V- P and SaiRat.

Word. The episodes in terms of direction, editing, dialogues, lighting are becoming so bad these days that the episodes are looking comical. Anyways they don't have to write the story, can't they focus on other things ?

Did they hire a new team by any chance? I can guarantee if this episode went out for any other production house the producer would have given them a drill down by now. SaiRat scenes in the last 2 episodes have need so poor , it breaks my heart for Neil and Ayesha. Yesterday Sai and Virat scenes looked like they were shot in different places.with a hand popping out into the screen to feed the cake🤦. Pakhi's lighting looked like she was going to burst into flames anytime.

Instead of grandeur , costumes they should focus on episodes. Looks like they can only do 1 at a time. Earlier there was no grandeur and costumes were shabby but amazing episodes. Wish they go back to shabby clothes and leave grandeur for other shows.

Originally posted by: Magnifique

He is all up in paapi space but for sairat normal scenes, he is looming from far as if he'll catch something contagious if he touches her.

He can only give expressions from far for sairat but there is no such issue in virakhi scenes. Either keep all the scenes same but don't show such contrast between V- P and SaiRat.

I completely agree. This is what I feel too and I am not happy about it at all. We are all hooked into this show ultimately for Sairat any compromise on that is unacceptable.

Exactly, I can only see hin giving expressions in Sairat scenes.

@bold it is quite evident isn't it? Like I can see some kind of a hesitation, distance even in touches?

You are right, why not keep all the scenes same? Why should they show us the contrast between Sairat and Virat Pakhi scenes this evidently?