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Posted: 4 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion


I really hope with age she will learn to be less ziddi about things going her way. This will not only harm the people she loves but her ownself.

I doubt this would happen . When she forced CN , no one rebuked her and after this incident, family will support Sai so it will make her feel she was not wrong . Fir someone to change , they first need to acknowledge the mistake
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Posted: 4 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

I doubt this would happen . When she forced CN , no one rebuked her and after this incident, family will support Sai so it will make her feel she was not wrong . Fir someone to change , they first need to acknowledge the mistake

Exactly.. I felt this too.. Aai must have explained her that it was a mistake to do so after the college incident and must have asked her to mellow. She needs a guide in CN.. Someone to teach her right and wrong and she listens to only Ashwini..

Virat said it was wrong during the college fest fiasco.. but ultimately when she justified everything and said she won the challenge, he just smiled. He was engrossed in his own insecurities🤪 guy cannot be blamed, but she needs a mentor here. Otherwise she will remain stubborn forever.. which can become a very bad trait and there is only a fine line between stubbornness and stupidity.


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Posted: 4 years ago
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This is probably the second thread made for the same topic. I find the criticism here more driven against the character than the action itself. How are Sai's actions isolated from the rest of the behavior? The gross generalization of Kaku and Sai being the same is absurd. If she actually wielded the power Kaku as a matriarch holds in CN, she wouldn't have ever been taunted or humiliated. She would have had an easy life in CN. Kaku dominates everyone literally. Nobody dares to speak against her. She is evil. She almost committed honor killing, kidnapped her own SIL, drugged and abused her own daughter. How is Sai and Kaku equated. Having certain similar characteristics is different. Here she is outright called to be a kaku in the making. How can Sai be Kaku ever? You comparing an action of hers to vilify and equate her with evil kaku. That's a problematic analogy. Tell me one good quality in that woman. There are none. Sai can be adamant at times but that doesn't mean she is evil or dominating like Kaku. Most importantly if sai actually wielded the power she would have been thrown out at midnight.

I disliked how Sai insisted Pakhi attend despite her refusal. I don't know if it's right or wrong. It varies from person to person. She had no malicious intentions. So for me, she is not wrong. Whenever Pakhi, Vitrat or Kaku used force with Sai they all had ill intentions and committed ethical wrongs. Merely isolating a handhold and passing judgments on right and wrong is something I cant do. I will refer to the context.

They are a joint family. They harp on joint family values, accomodating everyone, being together always. Not that I support any of these but Sai is always told by Virat and CN wasis to learned to adjust in a joint family. She is excited about her birthday and overwhelmed. She went and did zidd to kaku and Ninad, similarily she wished for Pakhi to come. I disliked her going there and acting extra sweet to Pakhi- but that is Sai's character, right? If Pakhi will act vile, hurt, and angry because her ex is celebrating his wife's birthday, Sai is the one who will try to be accommodative and compassionate to others. This inherent goodness in her is not a flaw. I disliked her pulling Pakhis hand. Period. But look at the reaction. It wasn't a mere jerk. It was a forceful push. She lost her balance. She didn't help her get up. She was worried about what Virat will think. Pakhi is an evil character. She definitely is free to choose but advocating for her by vilifying Sai and comparing her to Kaku is absurd.

Again, for me, she isn't wrong. The wrongs in the show for me are abuse, manhandling, ousting, honor killing, kidnapping, and many more. A harmless courteous gesture blown out of proportion is baseless. Moreover, Pakhi preaches Sai on adjusting and accomodating in a joint family. She says there are some rules. What are the double standards with staying away from the function? Let she taste her own medicine

Edit- I just watched the segment where Sai is bleeding and crying. Bhad me jaye Pakhi ki freedom to choose right now. If she sticking on like a leech with zero self-respect and pines on to her devar shamelessly I am not going to be worried about her lack of interest in a birthday party. She is a despicable character for abusing a teenager. For me, her choice wasn't violated or forced. She refused, she jerked too when Sai pushed her. I am concerned about the pain she caused Sai. If she is angry and think Virat wronged her she should take it out on VIrat

Edited by Anamika32 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#54

its exactly the point. Asking people to join the function & manipulating/forcing them is a totally different issue. It doesn't matter whether one is able to enjoy the said function or not.


No one is defending what CN gang & Pakhi regularly do, neither Virat for his blunders but when the tide turns towards Sai - wonder why people get so defensive & start pointing fingers at others, some X did that, Y did that, to coverup for her mistakes. 2 wrongs don't make one right..


At the end of the day the show is about 2 flawed individuals Virat & Sai, one is more flawed than the other but still they are flawed. People must be able to openly debate & discuss about their flaws without bringing others into the discussion.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Want to ask a question to those who feel Pakhi’s privacy should be honoured ..

If it is Pakhi’s birthday celebrated by Elders of the house,if Sai stays away uninvolved without ruining the function ( this I want to stress since this one is particularly highlighted) ,reading for her test or saying she got migraine ( Sai was shown suffering from this previously) ..will it be ok for the elders and Pakhi and Ofcourse for those who are pointing out Sai’s behaviour ( I mean forum members) ?

No. Never.

In the show it would have become a big issue and it will be magnified to the extent of abusing Sai in every way. Pakhi would have made a scene and I feel she would have messed up the celebrations. I am sure Sai would have been dragged downstairs to attend the function.

Then here Sai would have faced heat with various arguments.

That she has no courtesy to come and Atleast wish if not stay there throughout..

That Sai is stubborn and spoilt and mannerless

Doesn’t know joint family norms.

Always invites trouble

She loves getting into arguments.,,and many more.


That is why I think it depends on our outlook at the issues. For me Sai Joshi is not wrong. She might be childish but not evil minded or control freak.


If I am not wrong there were so many times people bashed the Chavans, Didi and even Virat for forcing her to do something. Take that alta scene for example. Most of the forum members bashed them. They even wondered why didn't Aayi or Sai mentioned to Virat that if she first refused it it's because she had a reason.

Same way many didn't like the fact that Virat actually forced Sai to attend Pakhi's parents' anniversary party when she refused to go. Everyone blamed them not to understand her atmasamman.

And I am sure everyone would bash them again if Sai is forced to join Pakhi's brithday party.

So no forcing is never ok be it Sai or the Chavans and it is always criticized.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

I doubt this would happen . When she forced CN , no one rebuked her and after this incident, family will support Sai so it will make her feel she was not wrong . Fir someone to change , they first need to acknowledge the mistake


I kind of agree that. And unfortunately even when Virat tries to tell her that she went wrong she would give excuses that everytone was happy so let's forget the mistake and move on. 😕 If it continues like she will never try to rectify her mistakes or not repeat them. 😕

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Keeping my love for Sai aside, I would have to admit that Sai really annoyed me in that scene. I get that it’s her birthday and I get that she wanted the entirety of her family there and that includes Pakhi, which is sweet, but sometimes you just need to back off and leave people alone.

She needs to realise that it’s not one rule for her and another for someone else. If she doesn’t like being forced to do stuff she doesn’t want to do, she cannot be forcing someone else to attend a party they don’t want to be part off either.

Sai could be so mature sometimes but then it’s times like these she really showcases a bratty attitude and it’s off putting. Today borderlined on insensitivity for me, it was clear as day that Pakhi was upset and she clearly said no, so Sai should have left it at that and left, but no Sai ko toh apni manmani karni hain 😒


I get it, she didn’t have malicious intent, she never does. But if people don’t want to accept your kindness, take it to people who will appreciate it rather than shoving it down the throat of someone who would rather stick a steak knife in your eye.

At times like these I can’t even blame Pakhi for insulting her.



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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion


I kind of agree that. And unfortunately even when Virat tries to tell her that she went wrong she would give excuses that everytone was happy so let's forget the mistake and move on. 😕 If it continues like she will never try to rectify her mistakes or not repeat them. 😕

That's something that needs to be addressed but wonder if cvs have plans for sai in that regard. She lack guidance badly in this whole zillat arena and who to guide her in this aspect is a whole different story in itself.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: SairatLove007

That's something that needs to be addressed but wonder if cvs have plans for sai in that regard. She lack guidance badly in this whole zillat arena and who to guide her in this aspect is a whole different story in itself.

Virat was the one who was guiding her before Pulkit incident but after that he was guilty for sometime to tell her anything and now he is blindly in love with her and doesn’t see this . If they go by KD , theirs won’t be any change in this regard
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Yaz-

Keeping my love for Sai aside, I would have to admit that Sai really annoyed me in that scene. I get that it’s her birthday and I get that she wanted the entirety of her family there and that includes Pakhi, which is sweet, but sometimes you just need to back off and leave people alone.

She needs to realise that it’s not one rule for her and another for someone else. If she doesn’t like being forced to do stuff she doesn’t want to do, she cannot be forcing someone else to attend a party they don’t want to be part off either.

Sai could be so mature sometimes but then it’s times like these she really showcases a bratty attitude and it’s off putting. Today borderlined on insensitivity for me, it was clear as day that Pakhi was upset and she clearly said no, so Sai should have left it at that and left, but no Sai ko toh apni manmani karni hain 😒


I get it, she didn’t have malicious intent, she never does. But if people don’t want to accept your kindness, take it to people who will appreciate it rather than shoving it down the throat of someone who would rather stick a steak knife in your eye.

At times like these I can’t even blame Pakhi for insulting her.

Her intent was never wrong but her way of achieving this is the problem . Despite Pakhi pettiness and all she didn’t spoil the celebrations for Sai and choose to stay put in her room. Sai was the one who crossed the line this time

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