Episode Spoiler - 1 July 2021 - Page 18

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Showing Pallavi and Mandaar spending some time as a married couple would have made it interesting but I feel somewhere along the way the CVs went from this being Pallavi's story (which is what it looked like in the initial promos) to Raghav's story a lot more. Dunno, just the feeling I have because even Mandaar is connected to Raghav. If it had just been about Mandaar turning up alive with Raghav not having any links to his past or death, it could have still been compelling storytelling because Raghav would feel like an outsider in the entire matter and his relationship with Pallavi would have been at risk.

I don't think they're saying she didn't have an emotional connection to Mandaar. She did, otherwise she wouldn't have made those promises to him to look after his family if anything happened to him. She gets attached to good people easily and it seems as if Mandaar encouraged her to follow her dreams, study further, etc. She just didn't have time to fall in love but she admired and respected him a lot. It's clearly visible in her eyes whenever she thinks of him. She had dreamt of building a life with him and that counts for something. Whether or not Mandaar would have been a good husband and life partner, no one knows but like you, I've said a few times that him doing shady stuff doesn't mean he would have been a bad to Pallavi. I see them as two separate things. Being raised by Sharda, I'm guessing he would have been well educated, well spoken, and a decent guy in terms of social behavior. As you mentioned, Raghav can be foul-mouthed and extremely arrogant, condescending, and ruthless with people, but he's the biggest mama's boy in Hyderabad and clearly was born to be a great husband. On the other hand, Sanki comes from a so-called 'shareef' background but look what kind of abusive and mean father, husband, and brother he is.

Regarding Pallavi's status as a Deshmukh, I think they were trying to show how she latched on to it as her identity because as an orphan she wanted an anchor. Marrying Mandaar and finding his family gave her that. She didn't know the meaning of that kind of family until she started mixing with the Raos. You can see how these little moments with Amma are giving her a whole new appreciation for various forms of love, dedication to one's family, and being unconditionally supportive of your close ones. Often on ITV, the beauty of love and dedication to your spouse is seen through marriages of younger people but many times it's older couples who've been through thick and thin together who have the most beautiful stories to tell. Shame ITV doesn't focus on those gems.

When I think about how that rain and pakora scene was set up, Amma talking about Raghav's father wasn't just about her nostalgia or missing her beloved life partner. It was also shown as a contrast to the 'bond' that Sanki and Sharda have. Raghav grew up watching his father being a great husband and father, while Mandaar must have grown up seeing Sanki fall short in both roles most, if not all, the time. Although Sharda's husband is still alive and with her, he doesn't seem to have the respect, love, or concern for her that a life partner should, while Amma clearly had a full and happy life with Raghav's father, so much so that she still treasures those memories fondly and it fills her heart with love for her late husband over and over. I know we've been unhappy with how she treated Raghav all those years, but they didn't explore her side of the story. We got to see a little bit of it in the latest episode and it tells me that she lost a part of her when her soulmate died. Can't have been easy for her, she was widowed relatively young too. I want them to speak more of Raghav's father, I just want to know what kind of man he was. From what we've seen so far, Raghav gets his capacity for immense sacrifice from his father, and his ability to love and to feel so deeply from both his parents.

Originally posted by: inlieu

My brain's about to explode thinking about all the possibilities so I decided not to try to guess too far out.

Raghav's guilt is going to spiral out of control. I think something really bad is about to happen based on all the ominous incidents happening. Raghav's guilt in general is compounded by many things related to his past, especially his family and Krishna Rao, and now adding Mandaar to the mix is just way too much for one person. Even if he fights against all this and has his entire family, including Pallavi, by his side, how much can he tolerate without having a total mental breakdown? We know he expresses himself a lot but any time it come to his guilt, he bottles up his emotions a bit too much for my liking. We are seeing it as the audience but I don't think anyone else is. They have no idea what storm's raging inside him and I don't know how much longer he can continue with this, especially because his PTSD hasn't been addressed yet.

I don't want Raghav to be involved or be the cause of Mandaar's death but perhaps he holds a secret he doesn't want Pallavi to know because it might hurt her. However, his bloodied hands is what is confusing. If indeed it were an accident, I think Pallavi would find it in her to forgive him because she knows him by now, but that would actually make him drown further in his guilt. He won't be able to be her husband until then. Something else has to happen because the thought of Pallavi leaving him for Mandaar or because of Mandaar's death is only going to make him feel less worthy of her, especially at this stage in the story. He's not thinking of eternal love with Pallavi at this point but he doesn't want to hurt her anymore or be the cause of her pain.

I agree with you, Jean. Even I have stopped speculating. I absolutely understand what you are saying about Raghav’s guilt regarding everything. He has too much going on for a person to handle and even I feel it’s going to effect him badly. Even I don’t want him to be the cause of Mandar’s death because then he will never recover from the guilt knowing he was the cause of Pallavi being a widow. I feel Mandar coming back alive might work out better for him since atleast he doesn’t need to face the guilt of the past. I don’t think she forgiving him is going to help him in anyway. She has forgiven him for the forced marriage but he hasn’t forgiven himself. He is too hard on himself and this is breaking him. Why do I feel Ved is completely taking advantage of this characteristic of Raghav to mentally torture him because he knows Raghav’s nature. I don’t even know what the writers have planned for Raghav.

Just wrote on another thread,
And seeing Raghav’s guilt factor, I feel Mandar coming back would give him more peace of mind than trying to sort out something of the past.

Originally posted by: Diya2021

I agree with you, Jean. Even I have stopped speculating. I absolutely understand what you are saying about Raghav’s guilt regarding everything. He has too much going on for a person to handle and even I feel it’s going to effect him badly. Even I don’t want him to be the cause of Mandar’s death because then he will never recover from the guilt knowing he was the cause of Pallavi being a widow. I feel Mandar coming back alive might work out better for him since atleast he doesn’t need to face the guilt of the past. I don’t think she forgiving him is going to help him in anyway. She has forgiven him for the forced marriage but he hasn’t forgiven himself. He is too hard on himself and this is breaking him. Why do I feel Ved is completely taking advantage of this characteristic of Raghav to mentally torture him because he knows Raghav’s nature. I don’t even know what the writers have planned for Raghav.

Just wrote on another thread,
And seeing Raghav’s guilt factor, I feel Mandar coming back would give him more peace of mind than trying to sort out something of the past.

Mandar coming back would change the whole perspective of the show which it is based on!! I think Mandar will be back but in flashback and even if he is back he will be fake or in case at the end of this lafra he might die!!

Originally posted by: inlieu

What if the recording is about a different topic, like Raghav telling her how he feels about her or how important she is in his life?

Why would she be shouting at him for that?😕 whatever it is, it is definitely not about Mandhar..

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Why would she be shouting at him for that?😕 whatever it is, it is definitely not about Mandhar..

Mujhe bhi wohi lagti hai ki itna important mudda to aisi tarah Pallavi ko pata nahi chalegi yeh bomb to GKK hi forega Pallavi k samne!!

Originally posted by: Diya2021

I agree with you, Jean. Even I have stopped speculating. I absolutely understand what you are saying about Raghav’s guilt regarding everything. He has too much going on for a person to handle and even I feel it’s going to effect him badly. Even I don’t want him to be the cause of Mandar’s death because then he will never recover from the guilt knowing he was the cause of Pallavi being a widow. I feel Mandar coming back alive might work out better for him since atleast he doesn’t need to face the guilt of the past. I don’t think she forgiving him is going to help him in anyway. She has forgiven him for the forced marriage but he hasn’t forgiven himself. He is too hard on himself and this is breaking him. Why do I feel Ved is completely taking advantage of this characteristic of Raghav to mentally torture him because he knows Raghav’s nature. I don’t even know what the writers have planned for Raghav.

Just wrote on another thread,
And seeing Raghav’s guilt factor, I feel Mandar coming back would give him more peace of mind than trying to sort out something of the past.

@bold, I agree he's too hard on himself and that shows how good he basically is as a person. Like, really really good.

Ved knows him for years so this time he's playing mind games with him. He wasn't planning on using Pallavi to this extent but after hearing the "Pallavi ka naam mat le", he realized it would be a great way to weaken Raghav mentally and emotionally.

Mandaar coming back would indeed give him peace of mind in terms of being absolved of murder charges but at the same time he would feel threatened by him or insecure about losing Pallavi. Either way, Raghav will go through hell.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Why would she be shouting at him for that?😕 whatever it is, it is definitely not about Mandhar..

She's just pranking him and might storm off to the guest room. So he follows her there and then gives her a massage to calm her down?

Or maybe he confessed to drinking and accidentally breaking his fast.

Originally posted by: inlieu

She's just pranking him and might storm off to the guest room. So he follows her there and then gives her a massage to calm her down?

Or maybe he confessed to drinking and accidentally breaking his fast.

Yes that is what I feel too..

@bold - this is what I feel is most plausible..explains why he was also almost in tears when "confessing"

I think he gets drunk too and they both dance in the rain maybe... Coz they look wet.. and the way he was smiling at her ..looked like he is drunk too

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Yes that is what I feel too..

@bold - this is what I feel is most plausible..explains why he was also almost in tears when "confessing"

I think he gets drunk too and they both dance in the rain maybe... Coz they look wet.. and the way he was smiling at her ..looked like he is drunk too

Yeah, except he's so used to drinking and telling his life's story that he was probably able to articulate it better, unlike her who dozed off. 😆

Would he be in tears about that, though? Let's find out. I really hope the scene airs today. We've seen the precap for too long now.

Originally posted by: meghumonu

Mandar coming back would change the whole perspective of the show which it is based on!! I think Mandar will be back but in flashback and even if he is back he will be fake or in case at the end of this lafra he might die!!

This 1 dec 2018 stormy night with raghav being linked to mandaar is just the tip of the iceberg. Raghav doesnt seem to know him at all, seems at best a stranger only.. infact raghav was wondering what the heck was mandaar doing on the deserted road that too on his wedding night???

Pallavi will have to share her side of the story which will be a major chunk.. but to complete the story i feel real mandaar has to be back otherwise mandaar’s real feelings in the past we will never know.his side of the story we dont know.. Why he acted in the way he did etc..What is this death that pallavi seems to be talking about??? Why is it related to her inability to have fallen in love with mandaar?? How does the death link in with her story to mandaar.. real mandaar also has a story to tell for it to all fit in and fall in place..

Actually there are too many characters who seem have a story to tell the culmination of which is 1 dec 2018... and raghav has only been involved in the climax of the story..

If its not real mandaar, then ayi will have to be set up to reveal the real self of mandaar cuz baba tho seems to have been a gone case in mandaar also