Episode Spoiler - 29 June 2021 - Page 23

Originally posted by: RainbowUnicorm

Pallavi will be Raghavs Protector and Angel..her prayers and Vrat are the reason Raghav was lucky to live after trying 3 shots to his head. She has also firmly decided to trust Raghav and be patient with him until he can open up to her..Aai advised her to always trust her love..she has now tied that advise to her Pallu....and she got it out of Farhad that Ved is back...she knows Raghav panicked for her life.

I feel, the prayer she said..that if anything wrong has to happen it should be on her and not on Raghav...Pallu will definitely get a bullet from Mandar( fake or real) or lion. Raghav will rescue her

She has decided to give her 1000% into the relationship with Raghav..there is no stopping her now. And him too...

Revolver had no bullets ..im pretty sure and Raghav was also 99% sure..he took that 1% chance.. Marne ka irada hota to ghuste sath goli maar deta..But yes Pallavi, asking for whatever danger comes Raghav's way to be re-rounted in her direction means she would be in danger soon..

Originally posted by: i_ambivert

Tell me bwa mixed something in mandar food.. Later that night raghav and mandar would have had some physical fight and mandar would have died because of consumption of that food and not because of raghav. 🤣😆

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Thank you

Whay about the blood on his hands?

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

I think you'll like Ayi today! She was quite a star- one of the rare episodes where someone other than Raghav or Pallavi was the most memorable and enjoyable!

Ayi has been a star on a number of occassions before too.. I just love her and Pallavi's interactions.. Important piece of the puzzle she gave - Vijay and Mandhar equation.. there must be more to it.. Why did he leave the house on his wedding night.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Where was the "lack of guilt" ? I think he would be guilty either way but the man who died being Pallavi's husband would complicate matters..He doesnt seem like a man who would kill people, intentionally or unintentiinally and not feel remorseful.. His Don image seems more like a tax fraud thing, than having to deal with murder, kidnapping or extortion.. but yes he did say "mene har acha bura kaam kiya Hyd ane ke baad" we dont know bura kitna bura tha but it cant be as extreme as murder..

Okay, so I want to start with the disclaimer that based on what we've seen so far, yeh Don sirf apne hi dimaag mein hai. He's an immensely wealthy guy, who like most rich people, engages in tax evasion and bribery, bas. 'Hyderabad ka Don' is just a title given out of tashan. 😆

But with that said, if I give him the benefit of doubt ki he actually is what he claims, then I'd hazard a guess that he's used to bloodshed and death. I don't think he'd ever kill in cold blood, but a random person getting injured or dying in a deal gone wrong, or an encounter with enemies, etc probably shouldn't be something life changing. The onset of guilt now, appears to be more towards Pallavi than the dead man.

I said it in previous replies also, I don't see them going this way, it doesn't fit with the genre and audience of the show, but it's an interesting thought to ponder.

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

Okay, so I want to start with the disclaimer that based on what we've seen so far, yeh Don sirf apne hi dimaag mein hai. He's an immensely wealthy guy, who like most rich people, engages in tax evasion and bribery, bas. 'Hyderabad ka Don' is just a title given out of tashan. 😆

But with that said, if I give him the benefit of doubt ki he actually is what he claims, then I'd hazard a guess that he's used to bloodshed and death. I don't think he'd ever kill in cold blood, but a random person getting injured or dying in a deal gone wrong, or an encounter with enemies, etc probably shouldn't be something life changing. The onset of guilt now, appears to be more towards Pallavi than the dead man.

I said it in previous replies also, I don't see them going this way, it doesn't fit with the genre and audience of the show, but it's an interesting thought to ponder.

Ye kesa benefit de rahi hai behen, jisse use sirf nuksaan hi hota dikh raha hai?.🤣

@bold - I will be the only one in the forum I guess, who would LOVE to see this. 😆 I would love it if Raghav was actually the one who accidently killed Mandhar.. It a deal gone wrong... Ved couldn't have been around that time because he was in jail.. otherwise I would have made him load Raghav's gun and exchanged it with the fake one he was gonna use to threat him.. but well, there can be so many other plots to make this happen..

Yesterday I saw more panic than guilt in him.. but the more Pallavi will try to calm him down, the more agitated and guilty he will feel.

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

Okay, so I want to start with the disclaimer that based on what we've seen so far, yeh Don sirf apne hi dimaag mein hai. He's an immensely wealthy guy, who like most rich people, engages in tax evasion and bribery, bas. 'Hyderabad ka Don' is just a title given out of tashan. 😆

But with that said, if I give him the benefit of doubt ki he actually is what he claims, then I'd hazard a guess that he's used to bloodshed and death. I don't think he'd ever kill in cold blood, but a random person getting injured or dying in a deal gone wrong, or an encounter with enemies, etc probably shouldn't be something life changing. The onset of guilt now, appears to be more towards Pallavi than the dead man.

I said it in previous replies also, I don't see them going this way, it doesn't fit with the genre and audience of the show, but it's an interesting thought to ponder.

I think he's capable of killing for self-defense, deal gone wrong, betrayal, etc. if necessary but never in cold blood, no taking out suparis, etc. We will find out the extent now.

Also, being a don doesn't mean that you only get involved in dirty deeds. He seems to be involved in white-collar crime too and I have a feeling that he says he's the don of Hyderabad it means he controls what goes on, has the police in his pocket, etc. Lately, though he seems to be distracted from all that because of his involvement in family drama and based on what we've seen lately I sometimes wonder how the heck he built up his 'empire'.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Ye kesa benefit de rahi hai behen, jisse use sirf nuksaan hi hota dikh raha hai?.🤣

@bold - I will be the only one in the forum I guess, who would LOVE to see this. 😆 I would love it if Raghav was actually the one who accidently killed Mandhar.. It a deal gone wrong... Ved couldn't have been around that time because he was in jail.. otherwise I would have made him load Raghav's gun and exchanged it with the fake one he was gonna use to threat him.. but well, there can be so many other plots to make this happen..

Yesterday I saw more panic than guilt in him.. but the more Pallavi will try to calm him down, the more agitated and guilty he will feel.

Nope, I would also love it if he did indeed kill Mandaar, either accidentally or during some kind of shootout, not in cold blood though. It would make the story so much more compelling because of the moral dilemma on all sides, and because true redemption and forgiveness would take center stage. Should a person really be given a second chance for such things and if so, would he genuinely change/redeem himself? The real test would then be whether Pallavi can accept and love him in spite of all this.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I actually don't think we will be spared Raghav's guilt trip now or later. It's only going to get worse and worse until it consumes him completely. For some reason, most of the time, the story seems to be told far more from his perspective than Pallavi's. I don't know if it was a conscious choice of the writers or if the popularity of the character is what's driving this.

So even if they want to continue exploring Raghav's character further, the fact is that on his journey towards being the best husband/life partner possible for Pallavi, he has to understand her fully and learn what made her who is today. This won't be doable without him learning about her past and what she went through over the years, and accepting her for who she truly is - he hasn't even scratched the surface there, I feel. At what point can he separate his empathy, guilt, and repentance from genuine love and care for her, independent of the bad blood between them (pun not intended). Can he go from always being on the backfoot to feeling like an equal in this relationship, where he he no longer has to walk on egghells and is not hesitant to bring up points of conflict for fear of losing her? Can he help himself understand why he wants and needs her in his life, beyond her just being a lifeboat?

I completely agree that we need to see flashbacks and let things build up so that we are not just more invested in what happened back then, but that we can also visualize Pallavi going through those tough moments in her life. I actually would have wanted to see something of her growing years with Siddhesh, how she met Mandaar, etc. It can be done within a few episodes easily enough.

In Patiala Babes, they had just a few scenes with the ML and his late wife and it made a world of difference. The best part was that she appeared in episode 184 but her portrayal was bang on in that it matched the image of her that we'd formed in our minds as they built it up over the months, starting in episode 28. She was only there for a few days on the show, entirely in flashbacks, but the entire fandom was gushing about her and feeling for her character the whole time. I hope to see the same thing here.

The fact that Ayi called out Sanki's mistreatment of Mandaar gives me hope that he won't be out and out evil. He might have genuinely cared for Pallavi, but may have picked a profession or done something else to escape Sanki's prison.

I am really hoping to see Keerti's story too and how she grows after the whole Sunny track is over. I think her coming closer to Raghav is going to be very much needed when he's struggling with Ved and Mandaar. He needs all the support he can get. My only fear is that she is harmed in some way and Raghav is unable to help her, compounding his guilt and putting a dent in his self-confidence.

As for Pallavi, I don't want her turning into a mahaan FL. I want her character to grow but as long as she doesn't feel she can open up to Raghav completely she won't be able to be the best life partner for him either. They both have communication issues but she is far more bottled up to the point where it's unhealthy and detrimental to her mental health. I know that she had her chin up and fought through a lot over the years, and especially after Mandaar's death, but all that she is holding in will explode (or implode) at some point. Her obsession with serving the Deshmukhs is something we've all criticized but I have a feeling we'll get a better insight into why exactly she was so adamant about it, beyond her promise to Mandaar.

One more thing, it's all fine for Pallavi to fall for Raghav so hard and so fast, but I also often ask myself why. Is it because he offers her an escape from her mental prison at the Ds? Is it because he's not the Deshmukhs, or is just one of those situations where pyaar bas ho gaya, patha nahin kyon, par abh to nibhana hai. She's committed to the relationship and probably genuinely cherishes it, but does she feel the depth of passion that Raghav will eventually? The upcoming tribulations will test her resolve and her faith, but what about the long-term? Is she ok with being a don's wife and with the illegal activities her husband is always going to be involved in? Life's never going to be easy for her, there will be no 'normal' happily married life.

I don't disagree with any of what you've said. I reread my previous post, and I don't think I'm expressing myself very well, so I'm gonna take a shortcut and just piggyback on some of the points you mentioned here. I don't think we'll be spared Raghav's guilt, and I don't think I want to be either, but I at the same time don't want to watch only his guilt. That's gonna be great for a couple of weeks, but it will get monotonous. And I think you put it in the most perfect words in red. Raghav can take all the time he needs in the world with his guilt- it's a massive thing to overcome, and him resolving this overnight would be illogical and unearned. We spoke about emotional labour before, and I'm a big fan of watching it play out on screen, so no complaints there.

But then, I also want a lot more of Pallavi's perspective, and her emotional labour through this all too, and I guess that's what I'm actually looking for to break the monotony. If we can keep switching, that's more than enough for me. But if we stay as solidly in Raghav's perspective as we have so far, then his only thing being his guilt spiral will not be a compelling plot beyond a couple of weeks, and then I will want something more from him (obviously, sharing just my perspective and preference here and not making any broader claims of good or bad storytelling).

However, between these two options, I'd definitely rather go deeper in Pallavi's head. This story, this revelation, it deeply impacts her, and I want the plot to do her justice. She's been either passive or reactive so far, and hasn't really had the chance to drive the story, and I'd like some of that. That's also why I'd love to get flashbacks. Switching periodically to Pallavi will also give us more insight on why she's in love, as you brought up in your last paragraph. If I'm honest, I don't understand why she's fallen so hard and fast, and knowing more about her past and her thoughts could shed a lot of light on it.

I am waiting for Kirti to be explored further- they've planted loads of potential in tiny scenes with both her and Amrutha lately, so I'm hoping they have some growth mapped out. As for Pallavi, she hasn't really done anything much on the mahaan front in a while now, so I'm not worried yet. Her communication issues definitely concern me more. We saw that RaghVi communication issues make them vulnerable even in front of Sunny's machinations, how will they survive a much bigger storm if they don't learn to communicate? Pallavi needs to express better, and Raghav needs to listen better. These are consistent flaws we've seen with them both, and are undoubtedly going to add up and create a mess unless they do something about it.

(What you've described for Patiala Babes sounds wonderful! It ain't gonna happen, but 0.0001% of me is still holding onto hope that the Mandaar actor has been cast for a series of flashbacks only, because I still believe leaving him dead makes for a far more interesting conflict. Dead or alive, the one thing I can't wait to get is insight into the Deshmukh Dysfunction. )

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Ayi has been a star on a number of occassions before too.. I just love her and Pallavi's interactions.. Important piece of the puzzle she gave - Vijay and Mandhar equation.. there must be more to it.. Why did he leave the house on his wedding night.

Ayi has been awesome in the past, but she stole the show in a great way today. At par with the mangalsutra night, but I preferred today, since there was less melodrama and bhashan, and more scathing lines. Dil jeet liya aaj.

Vijay ne bheja tha na Mandaar ko? We got some random details about the night when Vijay and Milind talked, but barring that abhi sab mystery 🤣

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Ye kesa benefit de rahi hai behen, jisse use sirf nuksaan hi hota dikh raha hai?.🤣

@bold - I will be the only one in the forum I guess, who would LOVE to see this. 😆 I would love it if Raghav was actually the one who accidently killed Mandhar.. It a deal gone wrong... Ved couldn't have been around that time because he was in jail.. otherwise I would have made him load Raghav's gun and exchanged it with the fake one he was gonna use to threat him.. but well, there can be so many other plots to make this happen..

Yesterday I saw more panic than guilt in him.. but the more Pallavi will try to calm him down, the more agitated and guilty he will feel.

I don't think you'll be alone! A fair few are rooting for that plot 😆

@bold- absolutely. This is gonna suck for Pallavi, especially if she's out of the loop on what's going on, with Raghav suddenly pulling away overnight.