Episode Spoiler - 23 June 2021 - Page 18

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

@bold - possible

or he may take advantage of an unintentional or intentionally created miscommunication between Raghvi.. like arey Pallavi ji ne apko nahi bataya? mujhe to laga tha aap log apas me sab share karte hai.. etc etc..

He knows Raghav is an egoistic guy and he may use that to turn him against Pallavi.. mujhe pata hai inko hamare rishte se problem hai.. aur ye nahi chahti ki ye shadi ho.. aur aap apni biwi ki baat hi manenge..chahe mein jitna convince karu ki mein keerthi ko khush rahunga.. ok this maybe bit extreme but u get the theme I'm going with?😆 Prey on Raghav's weaknesses..

Yeah, I can see this working out well for Sunny if that's the direction he chooses to go. It wanna hope Raghav will be too smart to fall for such blatant manipulations, par aaj kal bharosa nahi hai.

Originally posted by: Diya2021

More than Sunny being MCP or gold digger, his character is like that termite which is slowly gnawing the whole house. That’s what I’m not liking about him. I’m fine with whatever he is doing with Kirti but why try to create rifts between family just for your advantage? That’s not a trait which is going to be good for the family. Like you said I won’t mind him marrying Kirti and taking her away. It’s her life to face whatever she has chosen but Sunny doesn’t seem to be like that. It’s as a person that he doesn’t seem to be right. Raghav might be rude or ruthless but he never bothered about splitting up anyone’s family for his advantage. When his target was Pallavi, he only used her but didn’t bother to defame anyone else in the family.

Sunny's character was fine as someone who is working hard and sincerely for a living..he is creative, he's passionate about his work and he also seemed to have a sense of right and wrong..(referring to his warning to Rocky about doing underhand deals for quick money that could land him in trouble) and most importantly he genuinely seems to like/love Keerthi (so far)..how committed he is or is he the right life partner for her is a diff question..Pallavi and Sunny didn't have the best first impression of each other from the very beginning.. it was an instant dislike and mistrust..you know when you get the wrong vibe from a person and don't know what exactly it is about the person that is bothering you.. He blamed it on her ''kanji ankhe'' but now it turns out that he has an issue with women who show authority because he is an out n out misogynist. Not judging him, simply stating facts based on what he said about women and their freedom.. Pallavi judged him based on his conduct with the house staff..and then she personally heard him use abusive language for her.. The Sunny we saw in the beginning of this track was somewhat likeable even if he didn't fit into the typical ''positive second lead'' profile but the Sunny we are seeing now is abusive..giving open threats so its obviously hard to root for him..

Whatever Raghav did with Pallavi, was because of MU..if he were in love with Pallavi like Sunny claims to be with Keerthi, he would've never been the way Sunny is being right now .. Raghav abuses Vijay on his face.. and we know Vijay deserves it. he is very respectful with other members of the family.. even with Vijay, he has never tried to harm him..But Sunny here is abusing Pallavi behind her back, creating a rift between family members behind their back,giving threats.. That's why he comes across as a two faced person which Raghav is not..

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Sunny's character was fine as someone who is working hard and sincerely for a living..he is creative, he's passionate about his work and he also seemed to have a sense of right and wrong..(referring to his warning to Rocky about doing underhand deals for quick money that could land him in trouble) and most importantly he genuinely seems to like/love Keerthi (so far)..how committed he is or is he the right life partner for her is a diff question..Pallavi and Sunny didn't have the best first impression of each other from the very beginning.. it was an instant dislike and mistrust..you know when you get the wrong vibe from a person and don't know what exactly it is about the person that is bothering you.. He blamed it on her ''kanji ankhe'' but now it turns out that he has an issue with women who show authority because he is an out n out misogynist. Not judging him, simply stating facts based on what he said about women and their freedom.. Pallavi judged him based on his conduct with the house staff..and then she personally heard him use abusive language for her.. The Sunny we saw in the beginning of this track was somewhat likeable even if he didn't fit into the typical ''positive second lead'' profile but the Sunny we are seeing now is abusive..giving open threats so its obviously hard to root for him..

Whatever Raghav did with Pallavi, was because of MU..if he were in love with Pallavi like Sunny claims to be with Keerthi, he would've never been the way Sunny is being right now .. Raghav abuses Vijay on his face.. and we know Vijay deserves it. he is very respectful with other members of the family.. even with Vijay, he has never tried to harm him..But Sunny here is abusing Pallavi behind her back, creating a rift between family members behind their back,giving threats.. That's why he comes across as a two faced person which Raghav is not..

Totally agree with everything you've said.

I also feel that the writers wanted to slowly sharpen the focus on Sunny, so they left some things ambiguous in the initial scenes. Over time, they started to reveal more of him to us, and potentially to use him as a catalyst for the Keerti-Raghav showdown that is pending.

It's also interesting that while we've seen a lot of what Sunny does or says with Raghav too, the context and reason behind it is so different that you end up seeing both characters in a different light, which is deliberate on the writers' part. I am actually finding this quite interesting in terms of character study and again it underlines the fact that the writers have put a lot of thought into this.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

@bold - do you see that happening without any trigger, need, incentive or urgency/emergency? They should have more of those pool side heart to heart conversations or like the one they had over a cup of coffee when he genuinely seemed interested to know about her. Pallavi kya chahti hai?

Agree. The circumstances under which they got married, don't exactly blame either of them for not being in sync yet.. its gonna take time and I want all the upcoming tracks to work on that aspect and have that one common underlying outcome..with each challenge/MU coming their way they should get to know each other better..

Yes ..very interested in knowing her past especially the identity of the man who died before her wedding..it seems like the makers have worked on a nice plot for the two that is entwined and hence more intriguing.. In response to what you said earlier, I don't think either of them have dwelled in their past.. Amma did and forced her children to do the same but they still came out strong and made a life for themselves.. same goes for Pallavi.. she never let the orphan or widow label be a stigma or a way to get people's sympathy.. but for them as life partners, its important that no chapter is hidden.. they should be like khuli kitaab for each other, good and bad chapters alike..

I would prefer that the conversation about Pallavi's past happen organically between them because he suddenly catches her lost in thought or she has a slip up about her past during a regular conversation, like last time. Knowing the penchant for drama, it is most likely going to be more of an in-your-face trigger that does it, though.

I am quite sure that through their experiences in upcoming tracks there will not just be character building but also destruction of defense mechanisms, preconceived notions, and just general attitude towards life on both Raghav and Pallavi's side. Stripping away all the layers is the only way they can see each other's true selves. I believe the way a person reacts during crises tells you what they are made of, and these two have to face one that threatens to disrupt their lives now that they seem to be at this status quo.

I was always worried that when Raghav's past would be revealed it would either be too melodramatic or underwhelming (sorry, burnt too many times by ITV), but they surprised me by delivering it just right. The simplicity of the scene, devoid of cinematic props really helped, as did the straightforward dialogues and display of emotions by both Raghav and Pallavi. Most importantly, Raghav's back story seemed believable and relatable, i.e. I could totally understand why such an incident had made him the Raghav Rao he is today. This is what gives me hope that when it comes to Pallavi's past, we will get something truly worthwhile and not contrived, something that has the capacity to blow our minds but that can also be relatable. I don't mean just with Mandaar but overall.

Pallavi seems so sorted, so mature, and strong, but what made her this way? Had she always been like this since childhood or did she have to learn some hard lessons that shaped her? Raghav initially felt insecure about telling Pallavi about his past and feared that she might hate him after that. Will she feel the same way, that he might look at her differently? Or will she proudly wear her battle scars and display them when the time comes? Will Raghav be strong enough to see her fall apart and be there for her when she needs him most, putting aside his own emotions and challenges? That's what I'm eager to watch.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Totally agree with everything you've said.

I also feel that the writers wanted to slowly sharpen the focus on Sunny, so they left some things ambiguous in the initial scenes. Over time, they started to reveal more of him to us, and potentially to use him as a catalyst for the Keerti-Raghav showdown that is pending.

It's also interesting that while we've seen a lot of what Sunny does or says with Raghav too, the context and reason behind it is so different that you end up seeing both characters in a different light, which is deliberate on the writers' part. I am actually finding this quite interesting in terms of character study and again it underlines the fact that the writers have put a lot of thought into this.

Agree. The ambiguity was a conscious decision to keep the audience on the fence about Sunny. The loose parallels with Raghav's character wrt to their troubled childhood, family issues, character traits like impulsiveness, ego, anger etc was also deliberate.. Now, gradually as they are revealing more of Sunny, the stark differences between the two character is becoming more clear.. Its also gonna throw light on the two relationships.. Sunny Keerthi- claiming to be in love, have known each other and been in love for a longer time, 2 years if I remember ..compared to Raghav and Pallavi who are not even in love..have just started the process of somewhat knowing each other.. despite of that their bond will come out stronger at the end of all this..