Episode Spoiler - 23 June 2021 - Page 12

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

Again, like you say, just because I understand his behaviour doesn't mean I excuse it, absolutely not. But I'm just hoping his rude awakening will have as satisfying a culmination as Pallavi's did, so I'm willing to stick around despite the frustration for now. Delayed gratification, if well executed, is always wonderful.

See the thing with Raghav is as someone already mentioned in this thread earlier that he is a guy who has laser focused approach towards life and he sees every thing he wants in his life as targets needs to fulfilled !! Be it business life or personal life his approach towards it is target based. His first target was manao Pallavi and stop her from leaving him and in that he succeeded and then his target was to win amma's trust and love and that also he has achieved now and what left his now his sister's acceptance of him as her brother and as the previous two targets are fulfilled he is not giving it enough time anymore and is rather now laser focused on winning keerthi's trust and love and this is the reason for his aloof behavior towards his wife or mother . Raghav needs to understand family relations are not like achieving targets that once you achieved it then move to another one . No it is not like that at all and family relation once you made you have to give it same kind of importance which you gave previously to made it for rest of the life. Rishta banana asan hoti hai le kin nibhana bohut muskil.He needs a big jhatka from Pallavi or amma to understand that he cannot take family relations casually with target based approach and he have to tread with utmost sensibility to handle them. In Bengali there is a saying " Dat thakte dat er mormo bojhe na"

That means when you have teeth you do not value it's importance in your life but when you loose the teeth then only you can understand the importance of it. Same her for Raghav he is now Pallavi granted and this will cost him big when mandy returns and take Pallavi away.

Originally posted by: Diya2021

lol, all I can say is either we got a bit carried away with the Raghav of past few days that we forgot who Raghav Rao is. Maybe a rewind of old episodes might cool me down 😆 or the writers are messing up with Raghav lately. If the writers are thinking of changing the characterisation of how they showed Raghav after marriage until now, I need to see the growth in his character as well as I had wanted for Pallavi. Him being a DON doesn’t give him a leeway that he has to be like this and can be like this. If we had wanted Pallavi’s growth, so should there be in Raghav as well. (I can almost visualise chappals thrown at me for this 😆)

My general patience for this behaviour comes precisely from the fact that I think it's gonna give us Raghav's growth. If not that, I truly don't understand what's happening 🤣

No chappals from me at least.

Originally posted by: Jiarao

True. I actually fell in love with RR's character in that truck wala scene .😆 So I won't judge Sunny for some silly comments about women. Pallavi shouldn't judge him too because her husband is No. 1 badtameez in Hyderabad and basically calls her father Sanki buddha 😆. Why does she expect Sunny to be all well behaved Sanskari?

She didn't bat an eye when she learned Rocky who made obscene videos of women is Sunny's friend. She was like give him a chance until yesterday 😆.

Thank you. Even I was surprised she didn't react to this, even RR was disgusted by what Rocky had done.

When Pallavi was saying you can tell how a person treats someone in lower position like how Sunny was treating that servant, I thought that's not really true RR can be very mean and rude to servants but he can also be very kind and generous... yes Sunny was horrible but that alone isn't enough. It's another matter that it looks like Sunny won't be someone we will be rooting for...

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

So Raghav ka behaviour this week...I feel like it's coming across like I'm defending him, but I'm truly not trying to because I absolutely don't condone the way he's acting. But I think seeing him act this way is necessary to get his character growth? You know how Jaya said that he isn't the best at relationship management, well, that's true- he's not had many relationships to manage for the most of his life, and the relationships he did manage, he did by force. In his heart, he truly wants these relationships to work, but rishton ki nazaakat ki poori samajh nahi hai abhi usse. Pallavi tends to fare better here because she's spent the last two years managing everything- a joint family, a failing business, town gossip, disgusting landlords like Jagdish, and she's done it without any support- emotional or financial- from anyone else. She had to rely purely on her people skills to do this, so of course her people skills are well honed. Raghav has had the resources to steamroll whoever he wants. He's an excellent judge of character, but when a shady personality cannot be steamrolled due to his personal connections- be it Sulochana or Sunny, his approach is lacking.

I still attribute his general aloofness towards Pallavi today to his general problem solving approach. He does a very calculated resource allocation in everything he does. Pichle dus saal se, Jaya and Kirti were what he'd invest maximum time and energy in. With Pallavi, time became a finite resource with the 30 day deadline, so he put every other resource and bit of energy into that. Saath saath, Jaya ke saath bhi he's reconciled, so he's secure with them both at this point. Now, Kirti is a ticking time bomb, so he's going all in to resolve this mess, so of course, he has less focus towards the other two women. Warna have we ever before see him be as thanda to Jaya as he was today? And he did notice something was off with Pallavi, but employed a terrible way to ask her (seriously bro, aur cheekh le, maybe then she'll open up to you, gaddha 🤦🏻‍♀️) But he doesn't have the required headspace to focus more there. Even with Jaya, I appreciated how he paid attention when she brought up Mandaar's death and the significance of vatsavitri. When he asked her last about the pooja, it was to test the waters regarding her acceptance of him as a husband, not about the pooja itself. She's made him secure in that position now, so it doesn't hold the same weight (also, this show suffers because they tend to compromise on what should be poignant moments, to set up for jokes. They sacrificed a moment of him reminiscing on that moment to set up for the joke of 'men are bad at shopping' 🤪)

Now, I don't like his approach. At all. This is not how relationships should be cultivated, with this rotating laser focus, you kind of need to spread yourself among the people you matter. It is insensitive, and incredibly frustrating to watch. But it's an approach that's worked so far, so I think he'll need a wake-up call. Pallavi was also cruising through life with blinders on, with her selfless family-oriented approach, and we were annoyed at her during the abortion track precisely because of it. The past few weeks were her wake-up call, and I think one of the results of this track would be a similar awakening for Raghav, or at least, that's what I'm hoping for, that inevitable jhatka. Him being expressive will also come with that. Abhi hum jitna anticipate kar rahe hain, I'm hoping it will be delivered equally satisfying.

Pallavi and Raghav are not on the same team right now, and they need to work on being united. If they can't put up that facade at least, then Raghav should have gone alone. After the blow up this morning, it would be unfair for me to say Pallavi should have shared with Raghav, she's right in her place to hesitate. Maybe she'll share when she's thought it over more. But since she's not yet shared, what does Raghav have to blow up at Sunny for? Once he finds out, I don't think he's going to doubt her or take it lightly- he cannot stand for insults to his staff, will he really be okay with his own wife being insulted and threatened like this? Absolutely not. But her hesitance in sharing is also a result of his own behaviour.

I'm worried for Pallavi with all the threats Sunny is directing her way. I hope it means he's underestimating her, which will work in her favor, but I'm worried she's about to be hurt badly in this track, either emotionally or physically.

(@Vaishali- this has been a really interesting topic for me to think on, tagging you here, please do jump in! Diya, not able to tag you, but hoping you'll see this!)

first of all thanks for taking the time. Nope, it didn’t sound like you are defending him. All I could read in between the lines throughout is, there needs to a growth in Raghav Rao’s character as well and I’m glad someone else thinks the same way.
@bold I don’t know how much he is calculative. agree once he feels secured in his position with the other person, it’s as if he then seems to take them for granted that they are there and forever in his life. This is what he has been doing with Farhad and now with Amma & Pallavi. It’s not that he wants to hurt or ignore them but maybe we have to say thats how RR is. His insecurities are pricked only if he feels he will lose the person. Typical male 😂

@green, for me personally now should have been when he gives more weightage to this pooja because she has accepted him as her husband but now it seems as if he is doing all this because Amma said it than he realising that this was the first challenge for her after being a widow for so long. Maybe the joke took away the effect.

@red even I feel there will be some change or else this track would be a waste. Maybe the entry of Lion and Mandar is going to bring out all his insecurities and him realising the effort he needs to invest in order to maintain the value of relationships . Ved using Sunny as a pawn in his game will be a heavy blow to Raghav if he is going to have this faith in Sunny and not give notice to Pallavi’s words. Them hiding things from each other will be literally keeping the doors open for a thief. Already Kirti is there for Sunny to exploit and Raghav being on his side is just adding up his defiance. I’m really hoping Raghav starts pondering on how Pallavi was today rather than completely ignoring it before it gets late.

The episode was much better than yesterday.

Pallavi was in interrogation mode and made it clear to Sunny that he needs to be wary of her, Raghav knows what she was doing, and he let her do it to an extent, but ultimately he adheres to his own views and approach.

The focus is on Sunny, Keerthi, and how he is a threat, I don't think if they have seriously thought about how Raghav-Pallavi's equation is evolving in this process. They both are being individuals here, the window to judge their equation wrt each other is via Vat Savitri sequence I think. LOL. That's how I see it.

Pallavi was being so obvious and I know why because she is gonna end up in trouble by being Sunny's and eventually Ved's target.

Raghav and Keerthi being oblivious to all this, is to make them realise their own follies and feelings... Keerthi will apologize profusely I feel, and Raghav ki aata maajhi satakli moment and Keerthi might get an earful who will be responsible for this if something happens to Pallavi because of Sunny, I would love to see that. Like you blame me for Nana and Arjun's death, you were laying allegations on our marriage, see what your own lover did!! Rao siblings are capable of this open showdown, and Keerthi will take it, I know. I wish for this kinda scene. But who knows..

Anyways later on, Raghav senses something wrong, I knew it next he is gonna be the attentive Pallavi ka husband, lol. I liked that moment.

Pallavi didn't reply, I feel this was because she didn't want him to explode and get back at Sunny and eventually things turning ugly in Rao family. Keerthi would have again taunted with her tum aur tumhari biwi baatein, and gone back to eloping with Sunny and not trusting them at all. Oh how Keerthi has become so predictable now. That's why the next moment Pallavi just sweet-played Keerthi. Thank god for this, I was dreading another bitchy scene of Keerthi. Please uske character ko thoda sudhaar dena end mein. Koi uski akal ko wapas ghar mein le ke aao please. Dumb characters ki line mat lagao yaar... 🤣

Lion ke liye no feelings, matlab theek hai, aa gaya, welcome kameene.. 🤗

Farhad-Amma-Raghav scene was funny and quite a relief. 😆

Pata nahin ye lungi hi naa le ke aa jaye... 🤣

And Farhad sniggering at Raghav's obliviousness to all these things.. 😆

I don't think even Pallavi expects these kinda things from him, and that's why even she was surprised ki Raghav lekar aaya... Overall Amma is much needed for them because these two sometimes won't be able to cruise through some hurdles alone... Amma understands Pallavi much better and can manage to knock some sense into Raghav when he is being nonchalant...

Overall, I think there is nothing much to read into this, except for the precap lol.

Pata nahin! Amma ne bola agar tumhare liye kuchh feel karti hun toh hi vrat rakhun..(Matlab direct jawaab toh shayad nahin milega kyunki usko pata nahin, vat savitri ke through milega after some socha-vichaari..)

Toh tum mere liye kuchh feel karta hai? (He wants to know her feelings but won't disclose his own or rather he thinks his feelings are obvious to her..hmmm)

Pata nahin what route they are taking, but the scene looked so good... Pallu being honest and Raghav being inquisitive..

Originally posted by: SodOff88

Thank you. Even I was surprised she didn't react to this, even RR was disgusted by what Rocky had done.

When Pallavi was saying you can tell how a person treats someone in lower position like how Sunny was treating that servant, I thought that's not really true RR can be very mean and rude to servants but he can also be very kind and generous... yes Sunny was horrible but that alone isn't enough. It's another matter that it looks like Sunny won't be someone we will be rooting for...

@bold; You know I laughed out loud when she said that. Wasn't it yesterday she was yelling at Shree just because he came at wrong time. Sometimes I feel like her motto in life is 'I will ignore what I and my family do and judge only others for their behaviour'.😆

Let me make myself clear here I am not rooting for Sunny or saying he is right person for Keerti. I am just giving him the chances I gave to Raghav. If my love for Raghav can overlook his grave mistakes I can atleast refrain from judging Sunny before knowing the complete truth about him. I hope Pallavi does the same.

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

My general patience for this behaviour comes precisely from the fact that I think it's gonna give us Raghav's growth. If not that, I truly don't understand what's happening 🤣

No chappals from me at least.

that’s all I’m holding on to keep my sanity otherwise this show will be another disappointment which I have to sadly add to the usual list.

Originally posted by: drnidsur

this is why i wanted to watch the show , i expect him to grow and be sorry for what all he has done but not just sorry he needs to work on them and mend them .

yaa truly a lot of itv dramas don't show a ml growing , but i think somewhere they wont do that bcus the young audience which watched is watching this show for that reason , i hope they understand that they are catering to an audience who cannot take a pav ki joothi concept being shown in other shows and they need the guy n girl as equals , both need to make changes to better themselves as individual first whether they are a couple or not . stangancy being single or being in a relationship - either way isnt good .

this is the only one which has given a proper ML redemption and from that time I have been impressed by Raghav’s character. I hope the writers maintain the superb level they have given us till now on his character.

Originally posted by: Diya2021

first of all thanks for taking the time. Nope, it didn’t sound like you are defending him. All I could read in between the lines throughout is, there needs to a growth in Raghav Rao’s character as well and I’m glad someone else thinks the same way.
@bold I don’t know how much he is calculative. agree once he feels secured in his position with the other person, it’s as if he then seems to take them for granted that they are there and forever in his life. This is what he has been doing with Farhad and now with Amma & Pallavi. It’s not that he wants to hurt or ignore them but maybe we have to say thats how RR is. His insecurities are pricked only if he feels he will lose the person. Typical male 😂

@green, for me personally now should have been when he gives more weightage to this pooja because she has accepted him as her husband but now it seems as if he is doing all this because Amma said it than he realising that this was the first challenge for her after being a widow for so long. Maybe the joke took away the effect.

@red even I feel there will be some change or else this track would be a waste. Maybe the entry of Lion and Mandar is going to bring out all his insecurities and him realising the effort he needs to invest in order to maintain the value of relationships . Ved using Sunny as a pawn in his game will be a heavy blow to Raghav if he is going to have this faith in Sunny and not give notice to Pallavi’s words. Them hiding things from each other will be literally keeping the doors open for a thief. Already Kirti is there for Sunny to exploit and Raghav being on his side is just adding up his defiance. I’m really hoping Raghav starts pondering on how Pallavi was today rather than completely ignoring it before it gets late.

Lol, I didn't think today's episode could make me deep dive so much, sacchi. It felt so filler while watching. Your rant gave me loads to ponder, and it was great fun. I appreciate you reading through my extremely long word vomit 😆

@bold- haan, I don't think he does this jaan boojh ke, he's just wired like this.

@green- true. Maybe because he doesn't yet know whether she's doing it dil se, or because Sharda and Jaya expect it, which is why he's unresponsive? That could be the reason for the precap too, if it's not a dream.

@red- for sure. These two need to learn how to become a team, so far we've not seen them put up a united front on anything. Important growth for them as a couple. Excited to see this play out!

Originally posted by: Ubiquitos

The episode was much better than yesterday.

Pallavi was in interrogation mode and made it clear to Sunny that he needs to be wary of her, Raghav knows what she was doing, and he let her do it to an extent, but ultimately he adheres to his own views and approach.

The focus is on Sunny, Keerthi, and how he is a threat, I don't think if they have seriously thought about how Raghav-Pallavi's equation is evolving in this process. They both are being individuals here, the window to judge their equation wrt each other is via Vat Savitri sequence I think. LOL. That's how I see it.

Pallavi was being so obvious and I know why because she is gonna end up in trouble by being Sunny's and eventually Ved's target.

Raghav and Keerthi being oblivious to all this, is to make them realise their own follies and feelings... Keerthi will apologize profusely I feel, and Raghav ki aata maajhi satakli moment and Keerthi might get an earful who will be responsible for this if something happens to Pallavi because of Sunny, I would love to see that. Like you blame me for Nana and Arjun's death, you were laying allegations on our marriage, see what your own lover did!! Rao siblings are capable of this open showdown, and Keerthi will take it, I know. I wish for this kinda scene. But who knows..

Anyways later on, Raghav senses something wrong, I knew it next he is gonna be the attentive Pallavi ka husband, lol. I liked that moment.

Pallavi didn't reply, I feel this was because she didn't want him to explode and get back at Sunny and eventually things turning ugly in Rao family. Keerthi would have again taunted with her tum aur tumhari biwi baatein, and gone back to eloping with Sunny and not trusting them at all. Oh how Keerthi has become so predictable now. That's why the next moment Pallavi just sweet-played Keerthi. Thank god for this, I was dreading another bitchy scene of Keerthi. Please uske character ko thoda sudhaar dena end mein. Koi uski akal ko wapas ghar mein le ke aao please. Dumb characters ki line mat lagao yaar... 🤣

Lion ke liye no feelings, matlab theek hai, aa gaya, welcome kameene.. 🤗

Farhad-Amma-Raghav scene was funny and quite a relief. 😆

Pata nahin ye lungi hi naa le ke aa jaye... 🤣

And Farhad sniggering at Raghav's obliviousness to all these things.. 😆

I don't think even Pallavi expects these kinda things from him, and that's why even she was surprised ki Raghav lekar aaya... Overall Amma is much needed for them because these two sometimes won't be able to cruise through some hurdles alone... Amma understands Pallavi much better and can manage to knock some sense into Raghav when he is being nonchalant...

Overall, I think there is nothing much to read into this, except for the precap lol.

Pata nahin! Amma ne bola agar tumhare liye kuchh feel karti hun toh hi vrat rakhun..(Matlab direct jawaab toh shayad nahin milega kyunki usko pata nahin, vat savitri ke through milega after some socha-vichaari..)

Toh tum mere liye kuchh feel karta hai? (He wants to know her feelings but won't disclose his own or rather he thinks his feelings are obvious to her..hmmm)

Pata nahin what route they are taking, but the scene looked so good... Pallu being honest and Raghav being inquisitive..

lol, this can be the best scenario to have the final showdown between the siblings.’

@green He wants to know her feelings but won't disclose his own or rather his feelings are oblivious to him 😂