Episode Spoiler - 21 June 2021 - Page 13

Originally posted by: Diya2021

Their chemistry is oozing out in this small scene itself. With what you are visualising, the screen will be set on 🔥

Jab Anjali waale scenes mil sakte hain to yeh kyun nahin?

Originally posted by: inlieu

I don't want Raghav to be injured at all, in keeping with the writers going the unconventional route. Rather, I want him to be unavailable or inaccessible if she chooses to blame him for Mandaar's death. All this abshagun stuff is overdone on ITV and I don't want to see the same thing again. The fallen thaali must have been Sanki's doing, I was hoping it was directed against Sharda not Pallavi. I mean, he has nothing to do with Pallavi so why should he care who she prays for?

I also want Keerti and Pallavi to patch up because as Amma will take sides with Raghav I would like to see Keerti support Pallavi in future. She can identify with the pain of losing someone so she'd be a good source of support. Plus, if she still resents Raghav at that point, she will be only more supportive of Raghav. I want her to take back her curse because by cursing Raghav she roped Pallavi in too. Also, I hope her words don't come true because again, it's been done to death on ITV.

Jaya's impulsiveness is something we see in Raghav quite often too, but over the years he seemed to have developed his cold and calculating side, which is essential to survive in his business and become (and remain) Hyderabad ka don.

At this point, I don't see Raghav breaking her heart but him being aloof during the Mandaar track will bother her, and make her feel isolated and lonely. Now going by how he zeroes on her accepting him as her husband and the constant role reversal on this show, I actually think she's the one who's going to end up breaking his heart with her questions and mistrust. He will not be the same again and the cycle of angst and rowdy Rao will resume, with overdoses of Appy Fizz.

i saw the BTS picture again, and yeah, it might be Sharda's plate he knocks. Pallavi is really far behind in the shot, further even then Mansi, Sulochana and Amrutha, so it would be a weird way to frame the scene if it was indeed hers. The only reason I can imagine for Vijay to knock down Pallavi's thaali would be if he has received info on Raghav being linked to Mandaar's death- 'mere ghar mein aakar us insaan ke liye pooja kar rahi hai jisne tujhe mere bete ki vidhwa banaya' etc etc. If it's Sharda's, then probably the melodrama of how dare she defy him by meeting Pallavi, and if she doesn't respect him, he may as well die- he's done this before.

I really don't want Raghav to be injured. Ideally, I don't want either of them to be subject to serious physical harm. I'll confess, I'm a huge sucker for the hurt/comfort feels with one person nursing the other, but from a plot perspective, it sometimes feels like a way to speed through on certain realisations instead of doing emotional labour. Since this show has been good at writing emotional labour, I want them to take the scenic route. But agar kissi ko injure hona hi hai, then let it be Pallavi this time, so I can get the reverse tending of wounds wala scene. Plus, I feel like physical incapacitation might be the only thing that keeps her out of the drama for a bit, so win-win.

On Mandaar, IDK. I agree with you as far as the accusation of the death goes, but once Mandaar is actually back, and is indeed a negative character, I think Raghav's not going to take that passively. I suspect he'll see through it all immediately- whether it's Mandaar himself manipulating situations, or Vijay shooting off of Mandaar's soldier to score some wins over RaghVi after all the recent humiliation. I suspect Pallavi will see through it too, but her sense of responsibility or obligation towards Mandaar may give her pause, which will make her vulnerable. Irrespective of what their dynamics may be at that point, Raghav has accepted Pallavi as his family, if he senses her wellbeing at threat, I can see the gloves finally come off wrt the Deshmukhs at that point. He'll move heaven and hell to make sure she's not being ill-treated or taken advantage of by anyone, chaahe usse khud accha lage na lage.

She'll find the strength to break free herself too, but till she does that, he's not going to let harm befall her. And I want Kirti and Krishna to be there for her at this point. There's something about having your girlfriends around in times of crisis that's irreplaceable.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Jab Anjali waale scenes mil sakte hain to yeh kyun nahin?

ofcourse milne chahiye 😄 why not.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I hope what you're saying is the case because Raghav not showing any emotions where Keerti is concerned would just seem off. Maybe yes he switched on his calculating side as he observed Sunny closely.

@bold I don't know if he's less desperate, him requesting two mins from her says otherwise. He's probably prioritizing her safety and wellbeing above his own emotions but based on his request for help to Pallavi, since she'd help him patch up with his mother, Keerti seeing his good intentions is definitely important. I guess he wants to fix things first and then focus on their dynamics and I want it to be a hard-earned reconciliation. He has been overbearing all these years which has made her behave this way. I think it will seem flat if everything is hunky dory between them overnight. He needs to realize his mistakes and she needs to try to focus on his intent and efforts over the results.

@blue, as much as that is the case right now, it's just sad to think about it. He's prioritizing dealing with Sunny so that he can deal with Keerti's emotions later, uska kya hai. 10 saal se ghussa hai, thodi der aur sahi, is his frame of mind. Breaks my heart. The way he looked at them holding hands, it's like he knows there's only so much he can do to stop her from jumping into the fire as he watches on. I do think that whatever he does to fix the problem, if executed right, will result in a permanent improvement in their relations. It's been like this since episode 1, I don't expect things to be better so soon.

I've found Kirti/Raghav much more interesting than Jaya/Raghav from the beginning, even though it was less in the spotlight, so I don't mind them taking it slowly. Right now, they're breaking it down even further, till they hit rock bottom, and then when there's no where left to go but up, they'll rebuild. So I do expect it to get worse before it gets better, and Sunny will be around to take advantage while this happens.

Regarding his desperation- of course, I didn't mean to say he's craving Kirti's affection any less. But I do believe the new grounding he's found is helping him reign it in a bit- he's less, I'm not sure if these are the right words, but less manic and frantic for the acceptance.

Till the show tells me otherwise, I'm attributing his thanda reaction today to not wanting to give Sunny any more ammo than Kirti had already given him. While we've seen him be super expressive with his emotions recently, it's because he's been around family only these days, the armors are down. But in his line of work, he probably has an excellent poker face around potential enemies. He's realized how chaalu Sunny is, he would have seen right through his game today, so he's being cautious, which is good. We need less bullheadedness for him. When Sunny was no longer around- conversation with Pallavi when he's trying to explain his intentions, and asking Kirti to just hear her him out, that's when the poker face slips.

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

i saw the BTS picture again, and yeah, it might be Sharda's plate he knocks. Pallavi is really far behind in the shot, further even then Mansi, Sulochana and Amrutha, so it would be a weird way to frame the scene if it was indeed hers. The only reason I can imagine for Vijay to knock down Pallavi's thaali would be if he has received info on Raghav being linked to Mandaar's death- 'mere ghar mein aakar us insaan ke liye pooja kar rahi hai jisne tujhe mere bete ki vidhwa banaya' etc etc. If it's Sharda's, then probably the melodrama of how dare she defy him by meeting Pallavi, and if she doesn't respect him, he may as well die- he's done this before.

I really don't want Raghav to be injured. Ideally, I don't want either of them to be subject to serious physical harm. I'll confess, I'm a huge sucker for the hurt/comfort feels with one person nursing the other, but from a plot perspective, it sometimes feels like a way to speed through on certain realisations instead of doing emotional labour. Since this show has been good at writing emotional labour, I want them to take the scenic route. But agar kissi ko injure hona hi hai, then let it be Pallavi this time, so I can get the reverse tending of wounds wala scene. Plus, I feel like physical incapacitation might be the only thing that keeps her out of the drama for a bit, so win-win.

On Mandaar, IDK. I agree with you as far as the accusation of the death goes, but once Mandaar is actually back, and is indeed a negative character, I think Raghav's not going to take that passively. I suspect he'll see through it all immediately- whether it's Mandaar himself manipulating situations, or Vijay shooting off of Mandaar's soldier to score some wins over RaghVi after all the recent humiliation. I suspect Pallavi will see through it too, but her sense of responsibility or obligation towards Mandaar may give her pause, which will make her vulnerable. Irrespective of what their dynamics may be at that point, Raghav has accepted Pallavi as his family, if he senses her wellbeing at threat, I can see the gloves finally come off wrt the Deshmukhs at that point. He'll move heaven and hell to make sure she's not being ill-treated or taken advantage of by anyone, chaahe usse khud accha lage na lage.

She'll find the strength to break free herself too, but till she does that, he's not going to let harm befall her. And I want Kirti and Krishna to be there for her at this point. There's something about having your girlfriends around in times of crisis that's irreplaceable.

I love what you said here about emotional labor and I find the fruits of that kind of labor to be much more rewarding. Shortcuts don't help the narrative in the end. If Pallavi is hurt I want it to be that complete mental breakdown that she's holding at bay, no physical harm please. Raghav or at least Amma needs to be with her.

If Mandaar is back and Raghav hasn't completely fallen for Pallavi or realized he's fallen, then what's his impetus to keep doing things for her? He won't even be her husband legally so what's the connection there. It would be interesting to see if he'd hold on to her as a husband instead of as someone who just cares for her because they do have some form of emotional bond. Her blood donation reveal is pending, which I think will move the needle on him being protective of her. He will also want her to be happy hence letting her go back to Mandaar without drama is probably what I expect him to do. However, the moment his gut feeling tells him something is off, he's going to investigate and solve the mystery. I do want to see shrewd Raghav there, not the inferno, because if indeed Mandaar is gray, then the out and out fight me in a ring sort of attitude won't get him anywhere. He will also not want to be in a position where he's labeled as her crazy aashiq, not because he wouldn't want to but because he wouldn't want her to be maligned. All the finesse of balancing relationships that he's learning from her these days will come in handy then.

+1 to girlfriends being there to support her. They will be unbiased and just there for her when other people are struggling to remain fair and straightforward about this entire mess. Sigh... I am so dreading this...

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

I've found Kirti/Raghav much more interesting than Jaya/Raghav from the beginning, even though it was less in the spotlight, so I don't mind them taking it slowly. Right now, they're breaking it down even further, till they hit rock bottom, and then when there's no where left to go but up, they'll rebuild. So I do expect it to get worse before it gets better, and Sunny will be around to take advantage while this happens.

Regarding his desperation- of course, I didn't mean to say he's craving Kirti's affection any less. But I do believe the new grounding he's found is helping him reign it in a bit- he's less, I'm not sure if these are the right words, but less manic and frantic for the acceptance.

Till the show tells me otherwise, I'm attributing his thanda reaction today to not wanting to give Sunny any more ammo than Kirti had already given him. While we've seen him be super expressive with his emotions recently, it's because he's been around family only these days, the armors are down. But in his line of work, he probably has an excellent poker face around potential enemies. He's realized how chaalu Sunny is, he would have seen right through his game today, so he's being cautious, which is good. We need less bullheadedness for him. When Sunny was no longer around- conversation with Pallavi when he's trying to explain his intentions, and asking Kirti to just hear her him out, that's when the poker face slips.

Keerti and Raghav's bond can go anywhere really. There's so much resentment on both sides: her because of Amma, because she loves and hates her brother at the same time, because she misses having that sibling bond and pampering she knows deep down he's capable of, but also because she hates his overbearing attitude. Just like you, I feel they are both going to be tested to the extremes before they reach an equilibrium. Amma and he reconciled quickly, but perhaps maa ki mamta is on a different plane than sibling love. Until we hear Keerti's side of the story, we'll not know.

I actually think that Raghav's desperation to win Keerti over is much stronger than it was to win Amma over because he knew it was going to be tougher. Amma couldn't hate her boy forever, and perhaps, as you said, reconciling with her made him feel a bit more at ease and in less of a rush to fix things with Keerti. I guess he expects it will also fall into place eventually, perhaps because he sees Amma and Keerti as a package deal rather than seeing her as an individual. On some level, he still thinks she's that kid who doesn't know her way around life and needs protecting, but with Sunny in the picture, he's beginning to realize that she has grown up after all. He also knows that there's only so much zor zabardasti he can do without her making a brash move.

If indeed Raghav is being poker faced with Sunny because he's calculating, then it's fine, but if he's falling for Sunny's manipulation then God help everyone, especially Pallavi, when she tries to show Raghav that Sunny isn't the right person.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I love what you said here about emotional labor and I find the fruits of that kind of labor to be much more rewarding. Shortcuts don't help the narrative in the end. If Pallavi is hurt I want it to be that complete mental breakdown that she's holding at bay, no physical harm please. Raghav or at least Amma needs to be with her.

If Mandaar is back and Raghav hasn't completely fallen for Pallavi or realized he's fallen, then what's his impetus to keep doing things for her? He won't even be her husband legally so what's the connection there. It would be interesting to see if he'd hold on to her as a husband instead of as someone who just cares for her because they do have some form of emotional bond. Her blood donation reveal is pending, which I think will move the needle on him being protective of her. He will also want her to be happy hence letting her go back to Mandaar without drama is probably what I expect him to do. However, the moment his gut feeling tells him something is off, he's going to investigate and solve the mystery. I do want to see shrewd Raghav there, not the inferno, because if indeed Mandaar is gray, then the out and out fight me in a ring sort of attitude won't get him anywhere. He will also not want to be in a position where he's labeled as her crazy aashiq, not because he wouldn't want to but because he wouldn't want her to be maligned. All the finesse of balancing relationships that he's learning from her these days will come in handy then.

+1 to girlfriends being there to support her. They will be unbiased and just there for her when other people are struggling to remain fair and straightforward about this entire mess. Sigh... I am so dreading this...

Yes please on the overdue breakdown- that's well earned angst. Physical harm is a shortcut, and why opt for it when the groundwork for a more emotionally fulfilling track is already there, painstakingly laid out over 100 episodes?

@bold1- They may not be legally married, and they may not be in love with each other, but I believe the care for each other now transcends the fact that there is a legal bond, and that care will be an impetus to protect her if he senses she's being harmed, wife or not. She'd be the same way if the roles were reversed.

@bold2-Yes, that's what I meant when I said he'll move heaven and hell to keep her safe while she figures all this out, because she's going to have to make the journey herself. But he'll play fast, dirty and effective to ensure this journey is a safe one, he's not the kind to passively stand by and watch when someone he cares for is in harm's way.

I guess Krishna is gonna be the only girlfriend...as much as I want Kirti, the chances are seeming less and less.