Ruining sairat is deliberate move? - Page 4

No I don't think it's deliberate. The lead Jodi is giving them Trps why would they do it . I guess writers lost the plot in order to follow original version which completely don't match with the characters.

Both SaiRat are now out of character. The story has not progressed a bit but damaged characters to the core. Ever since the devkit track everything went down hill.

For God sake can some people stop this trp discussion now. This post was not meant to create trp war. Are we really gonna ignore what ph doing to show & sairat but do sai vs virat all the day?

Originally posted by: Rose-13

Today’s episode when sai nd virat both were together in dr’s clinic,, I didn’t enjoy their cuteness because in my mind all those talk nd virat’s silence over sai’s insult were running so without giving virat a proper sorry nd meaningful reason behind his silence i was not able to accept that he loves sai,,, it looked very different,, loving some one means you respect them... he was still stuck on mobile off things but not happy that sai at least massaged him,, he didn’t call her once when she left for college after those fight nd wasn’t worried abt her whereabouts when she didn’t return from college,, it was pulkit who informed him but before that why he didn’t call sai to know why she is late in returning because when she left she was in anger so why virat was not worried abt sai it was almost night time when pulkit called him,, what type of love is this..? which I as a viewer are not able to support sairat where ML is not supporting the FL and also not worried abt her whereabouts shouting on pulkit is not an excuse for his concern he should have called sai to know,, as a person who loves someone gives them that importance to know if they are late from their daily schedule nd that too when they left house in anger,, but here his ego is more than his love

And sai what a FL... agr ek sorry se hi maan jana tha to itna hangama karne ki kya zarorat thi,,,

And for TRP,,, I don’t how one can watch same living room drama again n again.. everyone the chavans and pakhi and sai they are repetitive,,,, they are going round n round as a circle without any end point or result,,, bhavani will start taunting sai, ninad nd omkar will follow vahni then sonali nd karishma will enjoy nd in between they will add their tadka and then come pakhi didi who will deliberately instigate sai and sai will start giving them back per na hi chavans ko koi farak padta hai aur na hi sai ko to phir ek hi jaisa fight kyun dikhate hai and most important aisi fight kaun se viewers dekhte hai,,because mujhse nhi dekha jata hai i just fast forward,,,,

and tell me honestly did you people enjoy sai nd virat’s scene today without virat’s proper redemption and sai’s proper reason why she took vaada things out in open and why she didn’t talk to virat about this privately when he was asking her again n again

My view... I didn’t enjoy it sai was behaving as nothing happened yesterday... I think she is now immune to chavans taunts nd allegations

1 week tak jam kar khub fight karte hai be it Cgang , pakhi , sai , Virat koi bhi .

Milta kissi ko kuch nhi , result humesha zero hota dusre din sab Normal ho jata hai jaise kuch hua hi na ho .

Meri family aise drama mein contribute nhi karte😆

Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

For God sake can some people stop this trp discussion now. This post was not meant to create trp war. Are we really gonna ignore what ph doing to show & sairat but do sai vs virat all the day?

Originally posted by: ShipIsSailing

Well, yeah. If we think about it as something irl, then Sairat has ended a long time especially, as you mentioned, after Virat threw Sai out). But then again, it is a lot more complicated than that and in the end, whether such type of thing should be forgiven or not is left to be decided by personal choices and feelings, and also, how repentful the other person was.

Of course, the makers wouldn't actually ruin SaiRat deliverately, but the manner in which things are being shown makes comprehending their thoughts all that more confusing. There are so many dialogues, so many actions that could have been avoided (as the OP had written). What could possibly have been the reason to show Virat always defending Pakhi in front of the family members? Maybe if we think about it, Virat felt guilty that Pakhi had married Samrat because of him and now she is facing such accusations. But even these things are just us fans trying to excuse Virat's behaviour. Even if Virat is guilty, why can't they show him defending Sai and his Aai the same way? As the OP wrote, the trps won't be affected at all, in fact it would be even more beneficial for them as more people will like the ML, something which happened with their FL. Why do people love Sai so much? Ayesha's acting? Yes, that plays a major role too but it is also because Sai's dialogue are very well-written, and she usually asks just the right questions. So why can't they show the same for Virat?

All this just makes absolutely zero sense. Zero sense. Nothing about this makes any sense in any way. This is just plain stupidity. They are creating complications all by themselves, for absolutelt no reason.

I repeat, it makes Zero Sense.

I might end up writing another topic about this entire thing. But maybe...because I am a bit lazy.

@bold... exactly if you see sunny’s dialogues they were so well written nd every questions he asked to pakhi or the suggestions he gave to her was on point.... and especially his tone he was very firm nd strong in his talking that I’m not going to take any bullshit from you pakhi in the name of vaada,, you married samrat by your choice and now sai nd virat are husband ns wife so let them be and you move on your life with samrat... and when after all these still she asked to come with him for medical check up again that ‘seriously’ dialogue was given to sunny not virat... why???

Originally posted by: laksh

They seem to have succeeded with a few people. I have lost interest and not even able to enjoy Sairat for whom I started to watch the show. I know a few more friends who had stopped watching it too.

I gave this a thought sometime last week but since they were showing Sairat even when they were separated, I thought it is probably just me thinking that way.

The show might be popular for Sairat, but there are many who have said in this forum too that they can't show too much of Sairat because the drama would only be fetching them the TRPs. So, if we go by that, they probably might be losing Sairat shippers but not TRP audience who are liking the drama. The question now is how many of the Sairat shippers contribute to the TRP.

There was a point where I could just understand what Virat was doing, I didn't have to think or try to understand him too. These days, I am trying to make sense out of his actions. Now, this has made me lose interest in the show. I know that he is flawed to some extent but whatever they are showing doesn't make sense anymore. I gave a thought about his actions even today, but the more they make him act soft towards Pakhi, the more people will have aversion for his character. He is being misunderstood a lot because of this action of his. Which audience would tolerate a guy standing mum when a set of people are attacking his wife while he defends his bhabhi whom he doesn't even think should call a bhabi by just one person like his mom or his friend who were not even wrong? The worst part is that the guy claims that he loves his wife. I might or might not post about this behavior of his but the problem is why even show him like that in first place?

I have no doubt that Virat doesn't love Pakhi, no doubt that he has any feelings for her but I have also not been able to believe what Virat has for Sai is love. She is whom he wants, whom he likes, whom he desires, whom he loves to spend his life with but not whom he he is actually loving. His feelings for her varies as per the situation and that is quite alarming. He is coming across as a selfish, self absorbed guy who keeps victimising himself at every opportunity that he can find. That is troublesome. That is a flaw in the character by itself if we all pay attention to the pattern of his behavior. But in addition to this, I believe the offscreen equation, the uproar of fans terming Pakhi's actions as harassment and the inability of a certain person to accept the reality of their own character is the reason behind a lot of variations from KD wrt to Virat Pakhi's relationship. Rono also felt guilty, tried to protect RK, but since Virat is a soft person, when they tried to make him even more soft with Pakhi for their own reasons, they have managed to create an aversion for his character.

The way I also see is that they want to show that Virat is some mahaan who stood quiet even when his wife misunderstood him, who is willing to get misunderstood by his wife, who doesn't know want to fight for himself, doesn't want to defend himself or give explanations because he wants to protect a girl, who has a lot of virtues to not malign a girl's character and because he is a person who is trying to protect his brother's life.

In all this, they have failed to see that he will also come across as a selfish, self absorbed coward who cannot protect his own wife. They didn't balance it the way they should have to show that he wanted to protect his brother's life and a lady's reputation. He is anyway a hypocrite, a guy with double standards, so asking questions like why he behaved this way with Sai and why that way with Pakhi or his family members doesn't make sense. As I havs already mentioned, some are flaws in the character itself because he cannot go against his family for his wife beyond a certain point.

Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

What is more irritating is they r not even showing the reason behind virat behavior towards pakhi. It is only us who is assuming he is soft with her because he is guilty. But are they even realising it makes people to think virat as two timer by showing him like that. Virat may not have ill intentions in his mind. But how many times we should justify his soft & defensive behaviour towards pakhi. And his dialogues when defending pakhi are very strong like how dare u, don't talk anything against pakhi, u can't insult pakhi like that, u r crossing ur limits. When it comes to defending sai(he hardly did) dialogues were like why u r talking like that, don't misunderstood sai, u r thinking wrong 🙄. What really makers want to prove by this 😑

@bold these are dialogues when he told Sai out of his anger. His anger has no bounds when it comes to Sai. It is not just that he considers her to be close. I am not defending him in the next statement, telling it based on my understanding of the character. Throughout his life, he has let things go, he wouldn't have grown angry even when he wouldn't have liked what was happening at his house, he was conscious so as to not upset Kaku or his Dad. He no longer thinks that with Sai, he needs to act conscious or think twice. Even if he is wrong, he feels free, is taking the liberty without giving it much of a thought. All his pent up emotions throughout his life, he is now showing it liberally on Sai is what I feel.

When he defends Sai, he becomes the other Virat who always acts conscious, who always is concerned about his image, who would want to look as a very polite person. He exercises control over himself when he deals with others but feels free when he deals with Sai. Sai herself is person who is not bothered about what others would think, he has seen her expressing her emotions or views freely without thinking much, so he behaves that way with her.

He is wrong but I think he will have to learn some lessons to realise his mistakes.

About hin behaving soft with Pakhi, I have a doubt about something. I will have to watch a few scenes again before I come to a conclusion.

We are just using the word guilty, behind that word, there is a reason as why he is guilty too.

Why is he guilty in first place?

Because

- he got her married to his brother even when he knew she had feelings for him

- he ended her love story which she wanted to lead

- he made her or ended up forcing her to marry someone whom she didn't want to marry by giving her a promise (Virat doesn't know actual Pakhi's intentions behind getting married to Samrat)

- he didn't fight for what she might have wanted

- fate might have had its own plans for Samrat to go MIA but this fate was given by Virat in a way by getting her married to his brother whom she didn't want to (again Virat doesn't know why Samrat left and that he is actually not MIA)

- so Pakhi is left alone but he has moved on because he had a partner with whom he could move on

- as per hin his decision is why Pakhi is alone now

- he has come to know that Pakhi has not been able to move on which means that his decision has made her end up in an unwanted relationship where she has not even got an opportunity to move on unlike him

I have just elaborated what he is guilty about. This doesn't mean that I approve of his actions. I have always felt that he should have drawn a strict line, shouldn't have misled Pakhi through a few actions, shouldn't have given her some wromg signals. Even if he is trying to draw that line now when she is trying to get close to him, it is not working and he is also at fault in a way. He has been too late to understand the truth or the reality and it has come to bite him.

He is protecting her and her honour for a few reasons. He is not a person who thinks that she is not worth protecting, he will warn her, stop her when she advances him but would not take it too seriously to expose her. This is where some people fail. He doesn't have to expose her but should probably try to find ways to send her to her parent's house when she does these. He should start thinking that when she is not even interested in his brother, he should not be stopping her. He should indirectly make her parents take away from this house so that she stops trying to get close to him or stops trying to get obsessed with him and his life. Whether she goes or not is a different thing, he is not even trying to find a solution to this problem. He is not even thinking that only if he fixes this issue, can he set things straight between him and his wife. He is more worried about his life with Sai that he is failing to do something about Pakhi's actions. If he really wants to help Pakhi, he needs to take some actions, should find some remedy for this problem. Thw guy is annoying me when he is focusing on his love life with Sai when there are so many serious issues to be addressed.

Originally posted by: Rose-13

Today’s episode when sai nd virat both were together in dr’s clinic,, I didn’t enjoy their cuteness because in my mind all those talk nd virat’s silence over sai’s insult were running so without giving virat a proper sorry nd meaningful reason behind his silence i was not able to accept that he loves sai,,, it looked very different,, loving some one means you respect them... he was still stuck on mobile off things but not happy that sai at least massaged him,, he didn’t call her once when she left for college after those fight nd wasn’t worried abt her whereabouts when she didn’t return from college,, it was pulkit who informed him but before that why he didn’t call sai to know why she is late in returning because when she left she was in anger so why virat was not worried abt sai it was almost night time when pulkit called him,, what type of love is this..? which I as a viewer are not able to support sairat where ML is not supporting the FL and also not worried abt her whereabouts shouting on pulkit is not an excuse for his concern he should have called sai to know,, as a person who loves someone gives them that importance to know if they are late from their daily schedule nd that too when they left house in anger,, but here his ego is more than his love

And sai what a FL... agr ek sorry se hi maan jana tha to itna hangama karne ki kya zarorat thi,,,

And for TRP,,, I don’t how one can watch same living room drama again n again.. everyone the chavans and pakhi and sai they are repetitive,,,, they are going round n round as a circle without any end point or result,,, bhavani will start taunting sai, ninad nd omkar will follow vahni then sonali nd karishma will enjoy nd in between they will add their tadka and then come pakhi didi who will deliberately instigate sai and sai will start giving them back per na hi chavans ko koi farak padta hai aur na hi sai ko to phir ek hi jaisa fight kyun dikhate hai and most important aisi fight kaun se viewers dekhte hai,,because mujhse nhi dekha jata hai i just fast forward,,,,

and tell me honestly did you people enjoy sai nd virat’s scene today without virat’s proper redemption and sai’s proper reason why she took vaada things out in open and why she didn’t talk to virat about this privately when he was asking her again n again

My view... I didn’t enjoy it sai was behaving as nothing happened yesterday... I think she is now immune to chavans taunts nd allegations

We should see Sai Virat scene as Sairat scenes like some song sequence in a movie. We shouldn't look at what happened before that scene anymore.

To be honest, I couldn't enjoy the scene when I just read it in written updates.

I'm losing interest too. Sairat scenes felt out of place today, too light considering what happened the previous day. I don't understand why sai went home so willingly after the fitness got cleared. She should have atleast tell virat about it and let him convince her. It doesn't make sense.

Virat shocked expressions today while sunny was telling pakhi about v and s started loving each other was

Why is he so shocked everytime? Didn't he himself tell pakhi that he started to feel for sai?! Then why is he shocked whenever someone tells something to pakhi or about the vow?

I don't know whether the director is wrong or Neil, but they need to get a grip on it.

Originally posted by: laksh

@bold these are dialogues when he told Sai out of his anger. His anger has no bounds when it comes to Sai. It is not just that he considers her to be close. I am not defending him in the next statement, telling it based on my understanding of the character. Throughout his life, he has let things go, he wouldn't have grown angry even when he wouldn't have liked what was happening at his house, he was conscious so as to not upset Kaku or his Dad. He no longer thinks that with Sai, he needs to act conscious or think twice. Even if he is wrong, he feels free, is taking the liberty without giving it much of a thought. All his pent up emotions throughout his life, he is now showing it liberally on Sai is what I feel.

When he defends Sai, he becomes the other Virat who always acts conscious, who always is concerned about his image, who would want to look as a very polite person. He exercises control over himself when he deals with others but feels free when he deals with Sai. Sai herself is person who is not bothered about what others would think, he has seen her expressing her emotions or views freely without thinking much, so he behaves that way with her.

He is wrong but I think he will have to learn some lessons to realise his mistakes.

About hin behaving soft with Pakhi, I have a doubt about something. I will have to watch a few scenes again before I come to a conclusion.

We are just using the word guilty, behind that word, there is a reason as why he is guilty too.

Why is he guilty in first place?

Because

- he got her married to his brother even when he knew she had feelings for him

- he ended her love story which she wanted to lead

- he made her or ended up forcing her to marry someone whom she didn't want to marry by giving her a promise (Virat doesn't know actual Pakhi's intentions behind getting married to Samrat)

- he didn't fight for what she might have wanted

- fate might have had its own plans for Samrat to go MIA but this fate was given by Virat in a way by getting her married to his brother whom she didn't want to (again Virat doesn't know why Samrat left and that he is actually not MIA)

- so Pakhi is left alone but he has moved on because he had a partner with whom he could move on

- as per hin his decision is why Pakhi is alone now

- he has come to know that Pakhi has not been able to move on which means that his decision has made her end up in an unwanted relationship where she has not even got an opportunity to move on unlike him

I have just elaborated what he is guilty about. This doesn't mean that I approve of his actions. I have always felt that he should have drawn a strict line, shouldn't have misled Pakhi through a few actions, shouldn't have given her some wromg signals. Even if he is trying to draw that line now when she is trying to get close to him, it is not working and he is also at fault in a way. He has been too late to understand the truth or the reality and it has come to bite him.

He is protecting her and her honour for a few reasons. He is not a person who thinks that she is not worth protecting, he will warn her, stop her when she advances him but would not take it too seriously to expose her. This is where some people fail. He doesn't have to expose her but should probably try to find ways to send her to her parent's house when she does these. He should start thinking that when she is not even interested in his brother, he should not be stopping her. He should indirectly make her parents take away from this house so that she stops trying to get close to him or stops trying to get obsessed with him and his life. Whether she goes or not is a different thing, he is not even trying to find a solution to this problem. He is not even thinking that only if he fixes this issue, can he set things straight between him and his wife. He is more worried about his life with Sai that he is failing to do something about Pakhi's actions. If he really wants to help Pakhi, he needs to take some actions, should find some remedy for this problem. Thw guy is annoying me when he is focusing on his love life with Sai when there are so many serious issues to be addressed.

I really liked the way u put it laksh, frankly speaking I am upset with virat staying mum which is absolutely should change... But I can't stop thinking the reason because i still don't agree that virat is coward or spineless or two timer or bad person.... According to me he is selfless, good and honest person....

Then why is he behaving with sai and pakhi the way he is doing?

I believe he is behaving with sai the way he behaves with himself.... From day one we can't deny he thinks both of them or one....

1. See he won't react when someone/ pakhi taunts him , he don't react for sai too.q.. because he feels their taunts worth ignore and won't effect him / sai much but what he don't understand is, pakhi taunts are hurting sai
2. If he do something wrong he gets angry on himself to drastic level like he is angry on himself after truth is reveled , he does same with sai
3. He tries to be smart/ tackful when dealing with some situations, he wants sai to do the same, remember he don't have problem whenever sai handles his family tackfully instead of shouting

Although I want him to stand up for sai and understand the gravity of situation they are in, I feel this might be reason for his behavior....

While coming to pakhi, he behaves/ reacts for anyother family person... Yesterday also I don't like virat stopping sunny but he would have done the same if someone is taunts Kaku or his father too.... Infact he did it ...

Will coming to your last para laksh, trust me when pakhi suggested that she will go to her parents house in last 2 episodes, I really wished virat to say, Tek hai go...

But I think he is stopping her for samrat... You can ask what's the use of she is not happy in marriage, but we shouldn't forget virat was also not happy with marriage but living with sai changed everything, so virat think samrat is great personality like sai which helps pakhi to lead happy life... You can ask sending pakhi to her house to move on in her life with someone else but to think this virat should first believe his brother is no more, but here is not that case, he believes samrat will return vo bhi jaldi.... So he is stopping her..

PS: I am not supporting virat doings but just trying to find his pov