Sai : Your divorce is my beginning - Page 5

Originally posted by: NoraSM

It is not a Sai vs Virat post

Definitely not, not just your post, my reply was also not supposed to be taken as Sai vs Virat

If one can understand Virat and not Sai, I don't care

That is to try to make one look at it from the other character's pov as well. We all have our own views and if you have known me by now, I respect people to have their own views. I never try to impose mine on them.

If one can worship Sai and not Virat, again I don't care

I am not failing to look at anything, I am not going to cry for the poor girl when the poor girl keeps going back to her abusers, it's her decision to stay there when she can get out of it, so she doesn't have my sympathy or attachment because I don't resonate with her

That is it. See some can resonate with her and some cannot. It is applicable to all characters. I felt this way when people grew angry that Virat was angry with Sai that she was getting Devi married. I felt this way when Sai was crying in the mandap. My reaction was that if she took such a big step without thinking about the repercussions, she has to face it, she shouldn't be crying. Ofcourse, yes I was against ousting. If Virat's reaction was anything other than that, I would have supported his actions because Sai will have to face to consequences of her actions.

But, unfortunately in this case, I don't feel that way. I can understand her position, her feelings and why would she even return to Virat.

I can't keep saying Virat is at fault, Pakhi is at fault when I don't see her taking any step for herself and when she takes a step then she takes 3 back and goes back to from where she started, The day she does anything other than Chillam chilli, I will consider her position

Views can vary. I understand that you have a different perspective about this and I respect it. I will also give it a thought.

There are 100s of posts discussing short comings of Virat and Pakhi, I contribute there when I want to, what Virat did and why he did has been discussed in so many posts, I don't have more to contribute to it as most people write what I feel, you can read any post on the forum to get your answers on Virat

I am not sure where this is coming from. You have to check my posts and comments as well. Most of the times, I only post my understanding. I have written many posts when people have misunderstood Virat. My contribution in the forum has only been to bring some clarity about the characters if they get totally misunderstood. I have always kept in mind to post only things that do not create imbalance in the forum. There are very few posts where I have criticised the characters. I don't find it necessary to post since I can join one of the threads where they are already being criticised.

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I just share my opinions her and If I want to expect something different from the show, I am going to post that's why we have the forum

I know. I have been replying in a few threads as how they can deviate or what changes they can bring in. Why would I then stop you. That statement was to tell that whatever you are expecting is not going to happen because more than a flaw in the character, it is a flaw in the plot. That is how I moved on from the thought as why didn't Virat divorce Sai isntead of ousting her.

I have anyway answered in my first reply as why she wouldn't divorce him now. Let's agree to disagree.

Let's stick to the topic, we have deviated enough

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Originally posted by: NoraSM

Virat said it in one of his dialogues, I don't remember the episode but he did say that his reason for loving Sai is what she has done for his family

Originally posted by: NoraSM

I agreed completely

You see everyone was so mad at Virat when Sai was accusing him then next two episodes were dedicated to show us that Virat is not looking for opportunity to be with Pakhi as people claimed that's why their anger subsided and they started liking how Sai and Virat are missing each other

If Sai actually believed her accusations then I have no words for her to stay with a man she has such low opinion of

Just to clarify , when I say post accident behavior I am referring to her enjoying his attention , his flirting and sharing some intimate moments with him . My point is maybe she came back for humanity sake but she stayed back because she realizes he has done a lot for her ( her own words ) and her feelings for him .

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

I don’t think she believes he is into EMA . Even during the neighbors drama , she hinted at EMA but her behavior post accident was the biggest proof that she just said that to hurt him . Same goes with this confrontation as well .

Just to clarify , when I say post accident behavior I am referring to her enjoying his attention , his flirting and sharing some intimate moments with him . My point is maybe she came back for humanity sake but she stayed back because she realizes he has done a lot for her ( her own words ) and her feelings for him .

I don’t think she believes in EMA too because she’s giving respect to someone who doesn’t deserve it. Her noble thoughts & personality it shows. During neighbourhood drama she accused pakhi and ahe was right too, paki was pursuing virat then. Sai was so right with her observation even then. Sad that the dumb ips officer couldn’t figure out even this.

She should ideally question hos ckt too- he said he loved his bhabhi infront of his wife. What a pathetic excuse of a human being. I mean he can have a disgusting past but Sai the wife shouldn’t question his immoral words and actions. Hmmm well that doesn’t add up

Sai asked Virat about Pakhi before too and he lied despite having a past woth Pakhi. What a cheap person. Yet she didn’t accuse him. She only questioned his vada, the one which he told her. That’s because of her class and dignity & securedness unlike Virat who’s selfish and egoistic- who lashed out at her even for a friend like amay. I mean he has a bhahi cum ex at home, but she can’t even have a friend without facing his wrath- the hypocrisy.

Well hurting him, him crying 24*7 like a river doesn’t mean hes hurt. Hurt is what Sai faced when

He three her out at midnight

Made her feel unsafe at street in midnight

Made her go back to gc where her harraser lives

Denied food

Manhandled her and numerous other abuses. If sai wanted she could have hurt him like the abusive, toxic Virat. However sai being sai who was imparted the right values by her father didn’t stoop down to Virat’s level. Hurt is what Virat the beast did to sai the innocent teenager

Ofc he has done a lot for her- abuse inevitably. If she’s basking in attention I can argue that he’s a creep and harraser to show romantic advances without clearing his past & violating her consent. She isn’t enjoying his attention. It’s Virat showing his physical attraction towards his young beautiful wife. Probably can be termed as lust at this point. Sad he can only do that & show it in the bedroom. He goes mute otherwise and lets his ex humiliate his wife. If it was love he would hve support and voiced that. Nahi he only knows how to kiss, can’t open mouth when wife is humiliated

Also he’s the most selfish out of there. He is not liking Sai for who she is. She likes her because sai did good things for his family which he failed to do.

Originally posted by: Niranjan256

I don’t think she believes in EMA too because she’s giving respect to someone who doesn’t deserve it. Her noble thoughts & personality it shows. During neighbourhood drama she accused pakhi and ahe was right too, paki was pursuing virat then. Sai was so right with her observation even then. Sad that the dumb ips officer couldn’t figure out even this.

She should ideally question hos ckt too- he said he loved his bhabhi infront of his wife. What a pathetic excuse of a human being. I mean he can have a disgusting past but Sai the wife shouldn’t question his immoral words and actions. Hmmm well that doesn’t add up

Sai asked Virat about Pakhi before too and he lied despite having a past woth Pakhi. What a cheap person. Yet she didn’t accuse him. She only questioned his vada, the one which he told her. That’s because of her class and dignity & securedness unlike Virat who’s selfish and egoistic- who lashed out at her even for a friend like amay. I mean he has a bhahi cum ex at home, but she can’t even have a friend without facing his wrath- the hypocrisy.

Well hurting him, him crying 24*7 like a river doesn’t mean hes hurt. Hurt is what Sai faced when

He three her out at midnight

Made her feel unsafe at street in midnight

Made her go back to gc where her harraser lives

Denied food

Manhandled her and numerous other abuses. If sai wanted she could have hurt him like the abusive, toxic Virat. However sai being sai who was imparted the right values by her father didn’t stoop down to Virat’s level. Hurt is what Virat the beast did to sai the innocent teenager

Ofc he has done a lot for her- abuse inevitably. If she’s basking in attention I can argue that he’s a creep and harraser to show romantic advances without clearing his past & violating her consent. She isn’t enjoying his attention. It’s Virat showing his physical attraction towards his young beautiful wife. Probably can be termed as lust at this point. Sad he can only do that & show it in the bedroom. He goes mute otherwise and lets his ex humiliate his wife. If it was love he would hve support and voiced that. Nahi he only knows how to kiss, can’t open mouth when wife is humiliated

Also he’s the most selfish out of there. He is not liking Sai for who she is. She likes her because sai did good things for his family which he failed to do.

Let’s agree to disagree . I don’t want to turn this thread into a war zone .

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

He said that during his confrontation with Pakhi after knowing about Pulkit innocence . Even before he knew about Sai helping Devyani, he was already in love .

Oh he was in love, this is called toxic love

And its for this love he threw his 18 year old wife onto streets at midnight without thinking for her safety? Made her go back to GC where she might get sexually assualted? He denied food and shelter to an orphan? may nonone get this sort of love from their husbands. This is how toxic abusers and criminals behave not the ones in love. He acted like a beast

What is love and care?

Sai running to him despite all the humiliation and abuse she had to enter at his hands when she heard about the gunshot

Sai taking care of him like a nurse despite all his abusive Actions and helping him recover
Sai despite being angry checking on him and asking him to take medicines

Sai Helping his sister and mother to find happiness whereas Virat behaved inhumanely with Usha Mausi

Chalo but why is in love husband not opening his mouth now too? Oh well he only knows to kiss without consent. Gotcha

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

I see no point in discussion when you name call other character repeatedly . I ignored your previous comment for the same reason . I don’t agree with you at all and I have my reasons to justify my stand but I can’t have a discussion when the other person is not open to it and have made up their mind .

Let’s agree to disagree . I don’t want to turn this thread into a war zone .

Did I ask you to discuss? You are going personal by accusing me of name calling characters. I described their behaviour. It’s a discussion. You don’t want to reply, don’t. Nobody asked for it. I am strictly talking characters, no personal mentions whatsoever. You can respond or not. I’m sharing my views. But instead you are accusing me of having a made up mind and gaslighting in the process too. That’s unacceptable.

If you make assumptions and accuse, I can’t help especially when I didn’t ask for it. I’m discussing my POV on show and here you are personally attacking and judging me for having a different POV on a fictional character and show.

The assumptions are ridiculous. You decided and judged for yourselves. I don’t understand why people go personal here. You don’t want to respond; don’t rather don’t make it a personal attack and judgment. That reflects poorly and I don’t encourage it.

Agree & disagree- did I say anything, you are accusing and assuming this. Ofc it’s a discussion and one will have different POV’s. I have always been respectful. I Never personally attacked unlike your above post which is a personal attack. Its happening with me for the second time and this is just sad. I wish people tried to take fiction as fiction and not attack real people over fictional characters

Edit- If I quote a post I am not looking for a response. I’m sharing my POV’s there. If I don’t personally attack anyone I demand the same in return too

Edit 2 War zone- you are accusing and insinuating that me sharing my POV on shows is equal to a fight or war? That’s so ridiculousl. It’s a discussion jeez. Respect other’s POV than gaslighting, falsely accusing and personally attacking them. The hostility is unbelievable

Originally posted by: Niranjan256

Did I ask you to discuss? You are going personal by accusing me of name calling characters. I described their behaviour. It’s a discussion. You don’t want to reply, don’t. Nobody asked for it. I am strictly talking characters, no personal mentions whatsoever. You can respond or not. I’m sharing my views. But instead you are accusing me of having a made up mind and gaslighting in the process too. That’s unacceptable.

If you make assumptions and accuse, I can’t help especially when I didn’t ask for it. I’m discussing my POV on show and here you are personally attacking and judging me for having a different POV on a fictional character and show.

The assumptions are ridiculous. You decided and judged for yourselves. I don’t understand why people go personal here. You don’t want to respond; don’t rather don’t make it a personal attack and judgment. That reflects poorly and I don’t encourage it.

Agree & disagree- did I say anything, you are accusing and assuming this. Ofc it’s a discussion and one will have different POV’s. I have always been respectful. I Never personally attacked unlike your above post which is a personal attack. Its happening with me for the second time and this is just sad. I wish people tried to take fiction as fiction and not attack real people over fictional characters

Edit- If I quote a post I am not looking for a response. I’m sharing my POV’s there. If I don’t personally attack anyone I demand the same in return too

Edit 2 War zone- you are accusing and insinuating that me sharing my POV on shows is equal to a fight or war? That’s so ridiculousl. It’s a discussion jeez. Respect other’s POV than gaslighting, falsely accusing and personally attacking them. The hostility is unbelievable

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

When you quote someone’s post it means you are trying to start an discussion with them . You are free to share your POV , I haven’t stopped you from doing so. I refused to discuss with you as I didn’t feel like and it was because of our previous discussion . I don’t know where this gaslighting and personal attacking came into picture. You are accusing me now of things that was never said . If you are going to interpret war zone comment the way you did then that’s your opinion not mine .

No it no where means I am trying to start a conversation with them. It means I’m responding with my thoughts. They aren’t obligated to respond.

I was sharing my POV and you accused me of ‘having a made up mind & not being open to discussion. That is a personal attack. We were discussing the show right. How did you then judge my stands & tolerance to discussion. Its your own worss. That is gaslighting and accusation. I didn’t ask you to discuss so your refusal or compliance doesn’t matter to me. You aren’t obligated to respond as it is. If you respond with a personal remark, I won’t appreciate that.

No I didn’t assume anything. You responded to my POV on fictional characters with personal remarks

Warzone- you literally said that. Hows me sharing my POV making it war zone? Explain it differently if I misunderstood. You said just because I have a diff POV I’m making the thread a war zone. That’s gaslighting again. Its not about my opinion. It’s about your comment.

If you were discussing the show either you could have responded with differing viewpoints or or refused to answer. But Here you personally accused me and even called my point of view is instigating (warzone). These are your words not mine

Why did you respond with personal remarks in the first place then. It’s a personal attack friend. Don’t accuse me of lying now. You said all of it. Refer to your previous post. I don’t understand why you couldn’t simply ignore or respond with rebuttals (related to show) than passing a personal comment and judgment.

Edit, bold- I didn’t accuse you of anything. Instead bold- you are trying to gulit trip and gaslight me again with these lines.

Everyone is so on point of analysing last few episodes. Loved how each and everyone nicely penned down many layers of SaRat characters.

Both are flawed in their own way.Most important thing between them which lacks the most is communication. Then no respect for each other. Without much of giving any thoughts they are ready to jump into any conclusion.Pakhi seems to identify that weakness between them and she constantly trying to press their weakest nerve.

I too didn't like the idea of such public spat.But then again it was must needed to show the mirrors to both Pakhi and Chavans about a wired dynamics between Devar and Bhabi. Virat being mute on calling Sai " so called wife" then "Fees" triggered her to point she just blasting out all her pain.

Virat keep telling He loves Sai for what she did for his family. But if I am not wrong he started to develop feelings for her even before Amay track. When Sai left the room to sleep with Usha Maushi he was the one called her back tho very rude way but then was missing her in his room. Love doesn't need any reason. Virat knows it but never acknowledged it. If he convince this way to Pakhi she may definitely think that she still has chance if she starts caring for him.😆Then how can he expects Sai to understand him. His softness towards Pakhi is giving mixed signals to both women. Most importantly ousting your lady love in the middle of night without caring about her safety definitely can not be a love that is so deep. So those thoughts keep on haunting Sai and the most famous VADA during their wedding vows. 😆😵

On the other hand the man who starves for you knowing you might have not eaten as well. Is it only care or zimmedari?? Why those actions never triggered Sai's Mind??

This particular para just for writers . If any drama doesn't do any progression in the storyline as well as in the characters why to bring them then?? If they go back to usual route of nok jhoks and insecurities whats the point??😡