Knowing Raghav and Understanding Raghav.🖤 - Page 3

Originally posted by: Shri_12

Is there a rule, only one soul sister allowed?

Nope! 🤗

Originally posted by: Mihika

I remember yours and Rosy's comments on that scene from Saturday. I read the whole thred believe me, but I chose not to comment anything. The point that understanding and knowing are two different things yet connected is completely true.

Pallavi has known him better than he himself knows him way before their marriage. Remember the day when Raghav went with legal papers to Pallavi's shop. She straightaway said to Krishna that he was there to just scare them. And that was true. Had the Keerthi case not happened it was indeed a phuski bomb from Raghav's end. That is why she does know him and also knows that he will never backstab anyone because that is neither in his character nor his nature.

Understanding him was to understand his actions well. She wants to understand his emotions his thoughts his views because she knows what questions and taunts he would give her on different situations but she doesn't understand the meaning behind those questions just like the vat Savitri scene...where she did not understand anything until he pointed it out himself. Now she wants to understand if this marriage is an actual marriage for him or not because she has started accepting it... that's what she told Amma anyways.

Sorry if I had hurt anyone by not commenting on Saturday's topic but somehow that I felt it was not the time for me to discuss

I think it was in chis's thread.

I was so confused with why she said that on Saturday when she said her life won't be enough on the other day but I actually I understood the difference between what she meant. She had used two different words means two meanings.

Yes, she do know what he can do and what he cant, she do know what is he capable off and what is not (she was so skeptical when he called her to the restaurant to sign the shop papers) but with that can we say that she knows him better than he knows himself?

I do agree that she is trying to understand him and I think which is why she is trying to know him in more depth, and that's why she is asking questions to amma and kirti about their past.

I don't think she knows him better than himself, she do know him but better than him, i think the day she knows him better than himself will be the day she will understand him too.

Originally posted by: Bee222

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Originally posted by: LoveHopeMagic

I think it was in chis's thread.

I was so confused with why she said that on Saturday when she said her life won't be enough on the other day but I actually I understood the difference between what she meant. She had used two different words means two meanings.

Yes, she do know what he can do and what he cant, she do know what is he capable off and what is not (she was so skeptical when he called her to the restaurant to sign the shop papers) but with that can we say that she knows him better than he knows himself?

I do agree that she is trying to understand him and I think which is why she is trying to know him in more depth, and that's why she is asking questions to amma and kirti about their past.

I don't think she knows him better than himself, she do know him but better than him, i think the day she knows him better than himself will be the day she will understand him too.

Great post! @lovehopemagic

First i do agree 100 percent that they are 2 different things and i think @oceanicHeart said it well.

This being said, i didnt think if it this way until this post. But now that i have time to reflect..i dont think pallavi knows him better than he knows himself...i stand by that. I agree with @bee with this. Pallavi knows about him but up until a few days ago, pallavi was willing to leave him because of his behavior. If she knew raghav better than himself, she would have known then that he wouldnt do something without reason or provocation or an underlying factor. She doesnt have to know why (understand him) but she can know that from her past experiences with him he misunderstands (mms) and reacts. So why not try to talk to him or try to figure out the why? Then all of a sudden in just a few episodes where she spent some time with him all of a sudden she knows him better than himself. I think i just didnt like the line. I just didnt like that great of a statement. Had she said, "im beginning to know him well from spending time with him" then i wouldnt have minded that line as much.

I do agree that she def doesnt understand him not yet at least, i do think she knows him a little.. i just dont think she knows him better than himself. Because this being said.. what exactly is the paramter for knowing onself?

Raghav doesnt understand his behaviors thats obvious..but does he know himself? Raghav has repeatedly said i do good things, and has to assure himself thay hes a good person because people constantly cast doubt on his actions, but he knows that much about himself that he gives back to his community, or he doesnt make empty threats or he will protect his family. He does know himself. He just needs constant validation because people doubt him. And when his own mother doubts him he questions himself also.

So all in all i dont know. I think pallavi definitely doesnt understand him fully yet but is starting to know him but definitely doesnt know him better than himself i dont think.

Not sure if this makes sense 🤣

Originally posted by: RosyRosh

Great post! @lovehopemagic

First i do agree 100 percent that they are 2 different things and i think @oceanicHeart said it well.

This being said, i didnt think if it this way until this post. But now that i have time to reflect..i dont think pallavi knows him better than he knows himself...i stand by that. I agree with @bee with this. Pallavi knows about him but up until a few days ago, pallavi was willing to leave him because of his behavior. If she knew raghav better than himself, she would have known then that he wouldnt do something without reason or provocation or an underlying factor. She doesnt have to know why (understand him) but she can know that from her past experiences with him he misunderstands (mms) and reacts. So why not try to talk to him or try to figure out the why? Then all of a sudden in just a few episodes where she spent some time with him all of a sudden she knows him better than himself. I think i just didnt like the line. I just didnt like that great of a statement. Had she said, "im beginning to know him well from spending time with him" then i wouldnt have minded that line as much.

I do agree that she def doesnt understand him not yet at least, i do think she knows him a little.. i just dont think she knows him better than himself. Because this being said.. what exactly is the paramter for knowing onself?

Raghav doesnt understand his behaviors thats obvious..but does he know himself? Raghav has repeatedly said i do good things, and has to assure himself thay hes a good person because people constantly cast doubt on his actions, but he knows that much about himself that he gives back to his community, or he doesnt make empty threats or he will protect his family. He does know himself. He just needs constant validation because people doubt him. And when his own mother doubts him he questions himself also.

So all in all i dont know. I think pallavi definitely doesnt understand him fully yet but is starting to know him but definitely doesnt know him better than himself i dont think.

Not sure if this makes sense 🤣

But knowing yes she does know him very well..and I would stand by the point even better than him....varna jo raat me bola showroom bandh karega vo subah mind change ni karta....Pallavi jaanti hai ki iska dimaag set karna is important varna impulsive ho jata hai

Rahi baat uske ghar chorne ki.....she was defamed by him to saza dena to banta hai...but he followed her and ye usko chance di .... That was her first step to understand him.....2nd mir hi scene and 3rd shower scene...... abhi time hai understanding me but phase me enter ho chuke hai

Originally posted by: RosyRosh

Great post! @lovehopemagic

First i do agree 100 percent that they are 2 different things and i think @oceanicHeart said it well.

This being said, i didnt think if it this way until this post. But now that i have time to reflect..i dont think pallavi knows him better than he knows himself...i stand by that. I agree with @bee with this. Pallavi knows about him but up until a few days ago, pallavi was willing to leave him because of his behavior. If she knew raghav better than himself, she would have known then that he wouldnt do something without reason or provocation or an underlying factor. She doesnt have to know why (understand him) but she can know that from her past experiences with him he misunderstands (mms) and reacts. So why not try to talk to him or try to figure out the why? Then all of a sudden in just a few episodes where she spent some time with him all of a sudden she knows him better than himself. I think i just didnt like the line. I just didnt like that great of a statement. Had she said, "im beginning to know him well from spending time with him" then i wouldnt have minded that line as much.

I do agree that she def doesnt understand him not yet at least, i do think she knows him a little.. i just dont think she knows him better than himself. Because this being said.. what exactly is the paramter for knowing onself?

Raghav doesnt understand his behaviors thats obvious..but does he know himself? Raghav has repeatedly said i do good things, and has to assure himself thay hes a good person because people constantly cast doubt on his actions, but he knows that much about himself that he gives back to his community, or he doesnt make empty threats or he will protect his family. He does know himself. He just needs constant validation because people doubt him. And when his own mother doubts him he questions himself also.

So all in all i dont know. I think pallavi definitely doesnt understand him fully yet but is starting to know him but definitely doesnt know him better than himself i dont think.

Not sure if this makes sense 🤣

I agree that you agree with me 100 percent 🤣

Originally posted by: OceanicHeart.

Well acc to me when Pallu said she knows Raghav better than him.

She was talking about his potential to do something. Like with friends also we can vouch for facts that we know he/she is not capable of doing a certain thing.

I think that's what Pallu meant. As she even claimed in front of her baba that whatever RR does he accepts it proudly and doesn't defend himself. So I feel she knows his capability of doing something or not as she has understood him that much in these many days.

But understanding a person can take longer. I may say that I know my friend is not capable of doing a certain thing, but do I understand them fully is something else.

Understanding would be something like I can also predict their moods, how they react to situations basically knowing that person inside out.

Pallu doesn't know Raghav inside out she is still discovering his softer side that she had never seen. But she very well knows what he is capable or not capable of doing.

So I think it's just that diff.

Yeah. I agree to this.

She does know him better than himself when it comes to his behavior and his character. But she doesn't know him when it comes to certain things like his favourites, his past, his life struggles and for knowing such things they have to communicate.

And she doesn't understand him because for understanding him, she has to know him the both ways.

Originally posted by: LoveHopeMagic

Knowing and Understanding are two different words with two different meanings.

• In one of previous episodes Pallavi said that her life won't be enough to understand Raghav.

• In Saturday's episode she said that she knows Raghav better than he knows himself.

• In today's episode, she said that she dont know if she can ever understand Raghav.

The purpose of this post is to discuss something as I saw many comments about what Pallavi said on Saturday and to correct myself about a comment I made.

After Saturday's episode I posted a comment somewhere that she said she knows Raghav better than he knows himself when she had already decided that her life won't be enough to understand him. After today's episode I realized that both of them are two different things.

Knowing a person and understanding a person are different, it is connected though. ❤️

You can't understand a person without knowing them but you can know a person without understanding them. Understanding always comes after knowing. Knowing is an easy task but understanding is not.

So when Pallavi said that she knows Raghav, she did mean that she knows how he will act and react to certain situations and when she said that she don't understand him, she meant that she didn't know why he acts and reacts the particular way he do.

So whats you all think about this?

Wasn't Pallavi right the both times? She do know him but she don't understand him. 💔

@RosyRosh: Rosh, I'm tagging you because I saw your comment about this, that you didn't like what Pallavi said about knowing him better than himself and even I replied that I didn't like it too. 😆

I agree that knowing and understanding are two different things and while Pallavi has shared experiences with Raghav over the past few months and has seen him up close, the journey has only just begun. There's a lot more that will happen, and Raghav is quite predictable. I think she knows about his moral code so she can assess to what extent he will go and what lines he won't cross. As to his deep feelings and motivations, I don't think she's seen beyond the tip of the iceberg, which is what makes this story so darn interesting.

Pallavi is easier for Raghav to read, but there are still some things about her that he doesn't fully know or understand. That's why these little moments we're seeing between them are so important, because they are getting glimpses into each other's nature and making mental notes. All necessary for them to grow together and learn to love and respect each other.

Originally posted by: Bee222

I haven't watched today's episode so I don't know if my opinion will change after that... but as of now I think Pallavi neither knows nor understands Raghav. I agree with you that knowing comes first.

You can't understand a person without knowing them but you can know a person without understanding them.

Absolutely agree with this 💯

However, I feel there are many facets to Raghav that Pallavi doesn't even know yet, and that is because they've never discussed his past. And I don't just mean about his family's death and his estrangement with amma. Does she know anything about his life as a don? Does she know the principles he works on? Does she know anything about his experience as a businessman? The struggles he faced, the lessons he learnt? Does she know even the little things, like what is his favourite colour, food, vacation spot... if he has any good memories associated with these favourites?

Understanding might be different and more complex than knowing, but a lot of it comes hand in hand. I also feel that the day Pallavi truly knows him better than himself, she will have understood him too. But for that they need to exchange thoughts, have some discussions, speak about their own experiences in life. I guess we'll get some of that in the poolside date and the bedroom scene later.

But I'll also say what I said in my own post. Pallavi acts on her heart, she doesn't analyse things before saying them, she just goes ahead and says it. I feel like she said that line because her heart has already started to see Raghav as a good person, and she knew in that moment he needed that reassurance. He needed to hear that she trusted him fully... that's why she went out of her way to make him believe that.

Nothing more to add, Bee. As always, you've said what's on my mind. This journey is just beautiful to watch.