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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shristhi2002

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Even I said so in other thread, he sometimes lacks ability to speak, and think exactly in one way, and lacks base sometimes, but he is not manipulative. He felt convincing to me, not manipulative👍🏼

He himself gets manipulated in some cases😭


Before watching the episode I thought he will beg again and again and at last will say "You can't even do for the sake of friendship." or "After all the wrong things you did you should at least help me now"... but turned out he only said that as a friend he is asking for her help because his sister and niece means a lot to him.


I totally agree he is way too many times manipulated by the CGang and didi.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion


Before watching the episode I thought he will beg again and again and at last will say "You can't even do for the sake of friendship." or "After all the wrong things you did you should at least help me now"... but turned out he only said that as a friend he is asking for her help because his sister and niece means a lot to him.


I totally agree he is way too many times manipulated by the CGang and didi.

Haina, he gets manipulated.

And I am not defending this guy, cuz his moun vrat and somethings cannot be agreed in all, but yes, he is pretty firm in his situation and in order to do good and fulfill one intention, he himself galti se gets trapped.👎🏼

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shristhi2002

Haina, he gets manipulated.

And I am not defending this guy, cuz his moun vrat and somethings cannot be agreed in all, but yes, he is pretty firm in his situation and in order to do good and fulfill one intention, he himself galti se gets trapped.👎🏼


Oh yeah I won't deny that he pisses me off and if I could I would have hit him hard but only because of his stupidity and his too much goodness for his family and friend. His baja dalo phir bhul jaao and his unwanted patience makes things bad for him. 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: KJSairat

I've stoped doing analysis as it becomes too much. Your points seem valid, I agree with them. But my main problem is that they have portrayed Virat as an extremely weak character, too weak for even ITV, it's not something that I had signed up for initially and it's frustrating. It's not that he's bad, he's a nice human being according to me. But I've been frustrated umpteen times because of the way the makers are hellbent on making him a weak and complex character. Someone wil point out valid arguments (like you just did-made my mood better so thank you) that will be barely enough to come terms with it and lessen my frustration. It goes however round and round and well shows are meant to be stress-relievers right? I won't quit too, because initially it were Sai and Virat's characters that attracted me to this serial, but now I've grown a bit attached to the serial and now I will not watch for them. The makers have done a good job in establishing nice supporting characters with their own iconic dialogues 'Daado Sutto', 'Mast ha mast' and we still have the cute, fun banter between the characters and ofcourse SaiRat and the beizatti/drama that is still worth watching.

Well that selfish and manipulative angle is something I had mixed feelings about and I was also somewhat curious so I googled a bit. I'm sharing these excerpts from an article, interpretation is upto you.


Manipulative behavior involves three factors, according to Stines: fear, obligation and guilt. “When you are being manipulated by someone you are being psychologically coerced into doing something you probably don’t really want to do,” she says. You might feel scared to do it, obligated to do it, or guilty about not doing it.

She points to two common manipulators: “the bully” and “the victim.” A bully makes you feel fearful and might use aggression, threats and intimidation to control you, she says. The victim engenders a feeling of guilt in their target. “The victim usually acts hurt,” Stine says. But while manipulators often play the victim, the reality is that they are the ones who have caused the problem, she adds.

“If a favor is not done for you just because, then it isn’t ‘for fun and for free,’” says Stines. “If there are strings attached, then manipulation is occurring.”

Stines refers to one type of manipulator as ‘Mr. Nice Guy.’ This person might be helpful and do a lot of favors for other people. “It is very confusing because you don’t realize anything negative is going on,” she says. “But, on the other hand, with every good deed, there is a string attached—an expectation.” If you don’t meet the manipulator’s expectation, you will be made out to be ungrateful, Stines says.


Tagging you laksh as I loved your analysis and wanted to hear your POV, only if you feel like sharing 😊

Even if the lie is said 100 times it feels like truth and that's what is happening with Virat’s character analysis. One person overreacts and a few more follow the same.


I would say ITv shows never stress-buster if we get attached to the characters of the show. I feel they drain you out.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I agree that he is flawed and is not perfect but that really doesnt mean one can call him with such names, especially manipulator ?

Yes, I'm disappointed with some of his actions doesn't mean I can ignore his other actions. I love how he accepts his mistakes and tries to learn from them.

Excited to see how he convinces his baiko to stay back

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Optimist_d

I agree that he is flawed and is not perfect but that really doesnt mean one can call him with such names, especially manipulator ?

Yes, I'm disappointed with some of his actions doesn't mean I can ignore his other actions. I love how he accepts his mistakes and tries to learn from them.

Excited to see how he convinces his baiko to stay back

There is no perfect person in the world and everyone is flawed . Virat is no exception . I agree he has made some mistakes but his intentions has always been right and he realized and apologized for his mistakes . He has always been subjected to extreme criticism
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Writers hate Virat.

The problem with Virat is that they have made too many inconsistencies in his characterization. The Virat at the starting of the show is very, very different from what he is now. Yes, he is flawed but that does not mean writers can sacrifice consistency. Truth is, neither are the writers invested in developing Virat properly nor so they have any idea how to.

Contrast that to Sai. Whatever her flaws, her characterization has been pretty consistent upto DevKit wedding. TBH Sai was my favourite character in the show, but since DevKit wedding, I'm not able to connect with her in certain aspects. This is not because of her actions or her flaws, but rather the way the whole DevKit wedding plot was written. It gave no motivations to her decisions, no reason for maintaining secrecy. We had no choice but to move on by assuming her reasons and by accepting her good intentions. But the moment we have to rely on assumptions - it only means that the writing was faulty.

Good writing is extremely important for characterization. Bad writing can easily make a positive character come off as negative. Virat's characterization has been so shabby - that his actions leave too much room for interpretation. And added to that most of the times, one doesn't know if what we are seeing is Virat's actual character trait unfolding or it is just a case of inconsistent writing.

If Sai has 10 inconsistencies in her characterization, Virat has 100. If Sai had been written as poorly as Virat, and Virat written as well as Sai, people would have loved Virat and been divided about Sai.


Just my POV. Not intended to hurt.

Edited by nethraa_99 - 4 years ago

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