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Viswasruti thumbnail
Posted: 4 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: DelusionsOfNeha

True! In India people still use terms like Gay n Hijra as an abuse and will constantly mock you. Even online, ppl celebrate Carryminati n his homophobic comments in the name of comedy. The community is rarely represented onscreen and it's so terrible when done (mostly).

Supreme Court is still stalling the judgement on same-sex marriages by saying people don't die if they don't have marriage certificate but they don't realise it is a great issue, especially in times of Covid, people cannot get insurance, life support and housing because they don't have marriage certificate and are unable to support their partners without being threatened by the society.

Though the court verdict was out on 6th Sept 2018, society is still in its biased opinions, not coming forward to realise that they are a part of the society and one has to adjust with all cultures and attitudes.

Trusting and opening up to others can be a significant challenge as well. This largely can be linked to the discrimination and rejection you experience from acquaintances, friends, and family members.About 39% of LGBTQ individuals say that they have been rejected by a friend or family member, and 21 percent say an employer has mistreated them! That is unacceptable from the point of view of many now.

To bring a desirable change, this is our small effort, hope you all like this.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#92

Great discussion, people!

I agree with @DelusionsofNeha that GenZ and Millenials are more open and less narrow-minded which makes them open about these relationships.

While the older generations have to battle a mindset that has been conditioned from years to grow towards tolerance, let alone acceptance. I attended a Pride Parade in my city a couple of years ago and was not surprised to see a group of protestors there that were mostly older and the ones that weren't were flaunting a religious agenda.

Even so, I agree with @beinguraloo (Rosy) that education plays an important role, and schools should be disseminating this early on to children so they can normalize it.

I had my daughter tell me recently that a classmate of hers came out as bi to their entire class. It was a very normal thing and the girl felt safe enough to come out in her school without fear of judgment or hate. This is the kind of normalization that can ensue if education about such issues begin early on in life.

Edited by LizzieBennett - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: DelusionsOfNeha

True! In India people still use terms like Gay n Hijra as an abuse and will constantly mock you. Even online, ppl celebrate Carryminati n his homophobic comments in the name of comedy. The community is rarely represented onscreen and it's so terrible when done (mostly).

Supreme Court is still stalling the judgement on same-sex marriages by saying people don't die if they don't have marriage certificate but they don't realise it is a great issue, especially in times of Covid, people cannot get insurance, life support and housing because they don't have marriage certificate and are unable to support their partners without being threatened by the society.


Absolutely 100% agree. Why should same-sex couples be denied the privileges extended to heteros? When they have legalized homosexuality, why can't they go to the next logical step and legalize same-sex marriages?


While I do agree that social acceptance is probably more meaningful than legal acceptance, but legal acceptance is what grants powers. It gives them a legit leg to stand on, that no one can challenge!

Edited by LizzieBennett - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: Rekha_ji


Thank you for the warm welcome.


Of course, I'd love to share my experiences, will see if there are any unanswered questions in the thread. Also, I've worked for 5+ years in the LGBT community in London so Gay/Trans issues are something I'm quite well versed in.


If there are any questions directly, I'd be open to answering them too.


Thank you for your willingness to participate in this thread.


I have a question about genderqueer and non-binary people. Are they the same? If not, how are they different? I did some reading on the internet but it has only left me more confused.


Also, how does a non-binary person define their sexual orientation? Is it similar to trans people, wherein gender identity is used as the basis? Since they don't identify with the gender binary, how does this work?


Thank you, and apologies if my questions seem too inane/ignorant!

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Posted: 4 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: Grey-licious


I can't believe that WE the country of Kamasutra had become so regressive since the last few decades.

Kamasutra affirms and recognizes same-sex relations, and there are several Hindu temples which have carvings that depict both men and women engaging in homosexual acts. There are also some Hindu deities that are shown to be falling on the LGBT spectrum.

Very good points you've raised Kriti.🤗I really appreciate your initiative.

Epics like the Ramayana, Mahabharata and even temples of Khajuraho give enough peep into the ancient times of India to establish that homosexuality was in practice. Arthashastra, Manusmriti point to homosexuality in ancient times. Ramayana and Mahabharata also refer to instances of homosexuality.

In the temples of Khajuraho, there are images of women embracing other women and men displaying their *** to each other. Scholars have generally explained this as an acknowledgement that people engaged in homosexual acts.

In the Valmiki Ramayana, Lord Rama's devotee and companion Hanuman is said to have seen Lanka women kissing and embracing other women.

At another place, the Ramayana tells the tale of a king named Dilip, who had two wives. He died without leaving an heir. The story says that Lord Shiva appeared in the dreams of the widowed queens and told them that if they made love to each other, they would have a child. The queens did as ordained by Lord Shiva and one of them got pregnant. They gave birth to a child, who went on to become famous king Bhagirath, best known for "having brought River Ganga from heaven to the earth".

The Mahabharata has an interesting story about Shikhandini, the feminine or transgender warrior of the time and responsible for the defeat and killing of Bhishma.

During the great churning of milky ocean, according to Mastya Purana, Lord Vishnu took the form of a beautiful woman, Mohini to trick the demons so that the gods could drink all the amrut . Meanwhile, Lord Shiva saw Vishnu as Mohini and instantly fell for him. Their union led to the birth of a child -- Lord Ayyappa.

Ancient Indian texts, inscriptions and paintings on temple walls, clearly, do acknowledge homosexuality's existence in those days.

Ancient Indian texts are relevant to modern LGBTQ causes. Hinduism has taken various positions on the topic, ranging from containing homosexual characters and themes in its texts to being neutral or antagonistic towards it. The ancient Indian text Kamasutra written by Vatsayana dedicates a complete chapter on homosexual behavior.

In the Medieval period, homosexuality and pederasty under the Muslim rule, this grew more common with the sultans themselves, establishing relationships with men despite the prohibitions against it in Sharia.

Later British Rule imposed many moral laws on us, which restricted the freedom of choice of one's sexual preferences. In ancient. India, there was positive attitude towards diverse sexuality.

Homosexuality is well documented in Indian Mythology.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Very good points you've raised Kriti.🤗I really appreciate your initiative.

Epics like the Ramayana, Mahabharata and even temples of Khajuraho give enough peep into the ancient times of India to establish that homosexuality was in practice. Arthashastra, Manusmriti point to homosexuality in ancient times. Ramayana and Mahabharata also refer to instances of homosexuality.

In the temples of Khajuraho, there are images of women embracing other women and men displaying their *** to each other. Scholars have generally explained this as an acknowledgement that people engaged in homosexual acts.

In the Valmiki Ramayana, Lord Rama's devotee and companion Hanuman is said to have seen Lanka women kissing and embracing other women.

At another place, the Ramayana tells the tale of a king named Dilip, who had two wives. He died without leaving an heir. The story says that Lord Shiva appeared in the dreams of the widowed queens and told them that if they made love to each other, they would have a child. The queens did as ordained by Lord Shiva and one of them got pregnant. They gave birth to a child, who went on to become famous king Bhagirath, best known for "having brought River Ganga from heaven to the earth".

The Mahabharata has an interesting story about Shikhandini, the feminine or transgender warrior of the time and responsible for the defeat and killing of Bhishma.

During the great churning of milky ocean, according to Mastya Purana, Lord Vishnu took the form of a beautiful woman, Mohini to trick the demons so that the gods could drink all the amrut . Meanwhile, Lord Shiva saw Vishnu as Mohini and instantly fell for him. Their union led to the birth of a child -- Lord Ayyappa.

Ancient Indian texts, inscriptions and paintings on temple walls, clearly, do acknowledge homosexuality's existence in those days.

Ancient Indian texts are relevant to modern LGBTQ causes. Hinduism has taken various positions on the topic, ranging from containing homosexual characters and themes in its texts to being neutral or antagonistic towards it. The ancient Indian text Kamasutra written by Vatsayana dedicates a complete chapter on homosexual behavior.

In the Medieval period, homosexuality and pederasty under the Muslim rule, this grew more common with the sultans themselves, establishing relationships with men despite the prohibitions against it in Sharia.

Later British Rule imposed many moral laws on us, which restricted the freedom of choice of one's sexual preferences. In ancient. India, there was positive attitude towards diverse sexuality.

Homosexuality is well documented in Indian Mythology.

Wow this is very interesting and informative. I did know abt shikhandi and Mohini but other information is new to me. Thank you for this information.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#97

Informative thread 👍🏼


Happy Pride Month

oh_nakhrewaali thumbnail
Posted: 4 years ago
#98

Originally posted by: SoniRSippu21

Wow this is very interesting and informative. I did know abt shikhandi and Mohini but other information is new to me. Thank you for this information.

We have made the distinction for even gods. Aradhnarishwar, the strongest force acc to Hindu mythology, says that both, feminine and masculine energy together are unstoppable. Yin and Yang, feminine and masculinity are a part of each other, you cant separate one from the other.

I am sorry if i said something wrong.

Grey-licious thumbnail
Posted: 4 years ago
#99

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Very good points you've raised Kriti.🤗I really appreciate your initiative.

Epics like the Ramayana, Mahabharata and even temples of Khajuraho give enough peep into the ancient times of India to establish that homosexuality was in practice. Arthashastra, Manusmriti point to homosexuality in ancient times. Ramayana and Mahabharata also refer to instances of homosexuality.

In the temples of Khajuraho, there are images of women embracing other women and men displaying their *** to each other. Scholars have generally explained this as an acknowledgement that people engaged in homosexual acts.

In the Valmiki Ramayana, Lord Rama's devotee and companion Hanuman is said to have seen Lanka women kissing and embracing other women.

At another place, the Ramayana tells the tale of a king named Dilip, who had two wives. He died without leaving an heir. The story says that Lord Shiva appeared in the dreams of the widowed queens and told them that if they made love to each other, they would have a child. The queens did as ordained by Lord Shiva and one of them got pregnant. They gave birth to a child, who went on to become famous king Bhagirath, best known for "having brought River Ganga from heaven to the earth".

The Mahabharata has an interesting story about Shikhandini, the feminine or transgender warrior of the time and responsible for the defeat and killing of Bhishma.

During the great churning of milky ocean, according to Mastya Purana, Lord Vishnu took the form of a beautiful woman, Mohini to trick the demons so that the gods could drink all the amrut . Meanwhile, Lord Shiva saw Vishnu as Mohini and instantly fell for him. Their union led to the birth of a child -- Lord Ayyappa.

Ancient Indian texts, inscriptions and paintings on temple walls, clearly, do acknowledge homosexuality's existence in those days.

Ancient Indian texts are relevant to modern LGBTQ causes. Hinduism has taken various positions on the topic, ranging from containing homosexual characters and themes in its texts to being neutral or antagonistic towards it. The ancient Indian text Kamasutra written by Vatsayana dedicates a complete chapter on homosexual behavior.

In the Medieval period, homosexuality and pederasty under the Muslim rule, this grew more common with the sultans themselves, establishing relationships with men despite the prohibitions against it in Sharia.

Later British Rule imposed many moral laws on us, which restricted the freedom of choice of one's sexual preferences. In ancient. India, there was positive attitude towards diverse sexuality.

Homosexuality is well documented in Indian Mythology.

Madzzyy 🤗

Yess know about all these things thanks for reminding though

History of Hinduism is so progressive that how much can we try we won't be able to make ourselves progressive like our ancestors.

Edited by Grey-licious - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: oye_nakhrewaali

We have made the distinction for even gods. Aradhnarishwar, the strongest force acc to Hindu mythology, says that both, feminine and masculine energy together are unstoppable. Yin and Yang, feminine and masculinity are a part of each other, you cant separate one from the other.

I am sorry if i said something wrong.


Shiv Shakti took the Ardhnarishwar form to show the world that Purush Prakrati both are the same and a part of each other you can't just worship Purush without its prakrati


But I think it's an another topic to discuss

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