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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Yeah Yeah...Aur Virat k mammle mei bilkul bhi nahi.. 😆


Exactly... let's just be happy that he actually said something to the family and didi when Sai refused to come back. 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Looks like we will have to make a thread.. GHKKPM In Your Dreams😆

Looks like anything that we want from Virat can happen only in dreams 😳 and when it is about Pakhi, it has to be only in dreams. Because, no normal person will be able to talk to her so so so politely after whatever she has spoken or done. It looks as if he is indirectly giving a chocolate to Pakhi so that she doesn’t leave to her mayka claiming she “tum logon ne meri beizzati kar di”.


If it was me, I would have been like, haan kar di, jaana hai toh jao attitude. Won’t give in to people who are trying to blackmail me or manipulate me. Have so much sense and intuition to understand one’s motives for god’s sake. He can be as much guilty as he wants but when his guilt is coming in the way of his wife’s respect, then any sane person would know when to stop acting guilty. Itna jo guilty feel kar rahe ho, toh waada hi thodna nahi chahiye. Agar thosd diya, toh datke samna karo.

As much as I understand his nature, position, the toxic family he grew up in, I cannot feel sorry for a guy who cannot act courageous/bold/determined when it is actually needed. Exactly why I love Sai in this, she would never let her emotions control her. She can control herself even when she needs a hug from him, when her heart looks melted to run to this guy. She has controlled it because of the conditions he had set during the wedding. That also has always not been right and I have disliked it many times that she has acted harsh with him a couple of times through her words in the process of controlling her emotions. That was one thing that I wanted her to change, giving into emotions sometimes is okay and the girl doesn’t let it happen. This is where both of them are at extremes.

He should not let his emotions for his family take control over his decisions, take control over the sense of his judgement. He should not let his guilt rule his behavior, he cannot let that drive his actions and behavior towards Pakhi. Both have a lot to learn but if Virat needs Sai to stay back in his house and life, he should be the one who should act immediately on it. I don’t see him doing what is necessary. It is not called acchai, it is called turning blind eyes, acting diplomatic or like a peace maker at situations when it is not necessary or when he actually SHOULD not. His character is coming across as being too weak and I am not able to relate to him at all.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

Looks like anything that we want from Virat can happen only in dreams 😳 and when it is about Pakhi, it has to be only in dreams. Because, no normal person will be able to talk to her so so so politely after whatever she has spoken or done. It looks as if he is indirectly giving a chocolate to Pakhi so that she doesn’t leave to her mayka claiming she “tum logon ne meri beizzati kar di”.


If it was me, I would have been like, haan kar di, jaana hai toh jao attitude. Won’t give in to people who are trying to blackmail me or manipulate me. Have so much sense and intuition to understand one’s motives for god’s sake. He can be as much guilty as he wants but when his guilt is coming in the way of his wife’s respect, then any sane person would know when to stop acting guilty. Itna jo guilty feel kar rahe ho, toh waada hi thodna nahi chahiye. Agar thosd diya, toh datke samna karo.

As much as I understand his nature, position, the toxic family he grew up in, I cannot feel sorry for a guy who cannot act courageous/bold/determined when it is actually needed. Exactly why I love Sai in this, she would never let her emotions control her. She can control herself even when she needs a hug from him, when her heart looks melted to run to this guy. She has controlled it because of the conditions he had set during the wedding. That also has always not been right and I have disliked it many times that she has acted harsh with him a couple of time through her words in the process of controlling her emotions. That was one thing that I wanted her to change, giving into emotions sometimes is okay and the girl doesn’t let it happen. This is where both of them are at extremes.

He should not let his emotions for his family take control over his decisions, take control over the sense of his judgement. He should not let his guilt rule his behavior, he cannot let that drive his actions and behavior towards Pakhi. Both have a lot to learn but if Virat needs Sai to stay back in his house and life, he should be the one who should act immediately on it. I don’t see him doing what is necessary. It is not called acchai, it is called turning blind eyes, acting diplomatic or like a peace maker at situations when it is not necessary or when he actually SHOULD not. His character is coming across as being too weak and I am not able to relate to him at all.

Yeah I was tellink Anamika today.. relativity with Virat right now is Zero.. He was extremely thanda when Patralekha revealed she knew it all along and shouted at Sai for keeping away from her.. He was thanda when he got to know about Harini being in orphanage..He was thanda when Ninad called Sai as some one who is living on their crumbs.. He does not make sure that his wife is respect at his house and he says to himself Kaise rokun tumhe.. Bappa kuch karo ki wo ruk jaye.. He cant even control the junglis in his house and he calls it all love.. I want to see tomorrow's episode to comment on his anger towards his criminal family.. All rishta cutt off hota hai ya nahi..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Yeah I was tellink Anamika today.. relativity with Virat right now is Zero.. He was extremely thanda when Patralekha revealed she knew it all along and shouted at Sai for keeping away from her.. He was thanda when he got to know about Harini being in orphanage..He was thanda when Ninad called Sai as some one who is living on their crumbs.. He does not make sure that his wife is respect at his house and he says to himself Kaise rokun tumhe.. Bappa kuch karo ki wo ruk jaye.. He cant even control the junglis in his house and he calls it all love.. I want to see tomorrow's episode to comment on his anger towards his criminal family.. All rishta cutt off hota hai ya nahi..

@bold you are joking right?


This is where I am failing to understand. I understand how much Sai means to him and why he acts in extremes when it comes to her, but what is the use of it when you have the ability to cut ties with a person whom you love the most and stay with people and be polite with people whom you don’t love as much as you love your wife 🤔. Doesn’t this show who is important to him? May be I am not able to think properly now that I am upset with him. But the thing is that when he claims he loves her, he should have the capability to even forgive her or give her a chance, not saying that she will go back to where she came from. Yes, she broke his trust, but does that mean that he breaks ties with her? Was it needed to react that inhumanly? Whatever happened in his family can be past, but that past has destroyed 3 people’s lives for 10 years and yet he will move with them as if nothing happened and that attitude is quite disturbing. He is going to let these people manipulate him again and again in the future too. Who would need this kind of a love from this guy for a girl? If Sai was our sister, will we feel like sending her back to him? What is the assurance that he wouldn’t do anything like that again or let that lady Pakhi insult her or humiliate her. She calls her gold digger, khudgarz and what not and he doesn’t even flinch. Last time during the ousting too I wrote a post explaining that he was upset with Sai, so he couldn’t even hear all those comments, he was in another zone but what happened now? Everytime there cannot be an excuse for him to stand mum.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Yesterday, the dialogue Sai said to Pakhi , when she understood that Pakhi knew all along that Devkit married in Temple without witness and that Kaku gave away the newborn to orphanage, should have been said by Virat to create more impact.


From Virat's expression I am not sure if Virat understood the implication of what Pakhi said, I am not sure if his gray cells processed these:

1. She knew that Devkit were married in Temple

2. She knew Devkit had a child

3. She knew Kaku gave away the child to orphanage

4. She knew that Pulkit was telling truth by saying they were married

5. She knew the truth and still instigated Virat against Pulkit and tried to stop Devkit wedding

6. She knew the truth and yet she spewed venom against Sai and did not stop Virat from throwing Sai out of his life and house

7. She knew the truth and yet she stood for the wrong.


He should already know why Pakhi is doing all this and not again ask mujhe yeh samajh nahi aa raha hai tum aisa kyun kar rahi ho? I mean the poor girl has been telling him and showing him through her actions over past so many months. She tries her best and doesn't leave one chance. This is the only place where I sympathize with Pakhi, this man who wants his love to understand his actions over words, is unable to understand the action and words of his ex-gf bhabhi. She be like karun toh karun kya, bolun toh bolun kya?

Main question he should have - Why did Kaku choose to tell this to Pakhi when kaku did not include even Sonali in this secret for so many years?


Makers need to realize that just because the lead actor can emote amazingly doesn't mean they don't give him dialogues and let him continue to give expressions.


Yeh sab karke makers are making him fall in the eyes of audience. Even people like us who continue to give him benefit of doubt after every incident, fail to relate to him due to such behavior.


TBH, after I saw the episode I was not even surprised with Virat's behavior, but just shocked by Pakhi's stupidity. I wonder if I have given up on Virat already 😭


I am not going to comment on his behavior with family yet coz its incomplete and I want to see what he does today.

Edited by sukri - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

@bold you are joking right?


This is where I am failing to understand. I understand how much Sai means to him and why he acts in extremes when it comes to her, but what is the use of it when you have the ability to cut ties with a person whom you love the most and stay with people and be polite with people whom you don’t love as much as you love your wife 🤔. Doesn’t this show who is important to him? May be I am not able to think properly now that I am upset with him. But the thing is that when he claims he loves her, he should have the capability to even forgive her or give her a chance, not saying that she will go back to where she came from. Yes, she broke his trust, but does that mean that he breaks ties with her? Was it needed to react that inhumanly? Whatever happened in his family can be past, but that past has destroyed 3 people’s lives for 10 years and yet he will move with them as if nothing happened and that attitude is quite disturbing. He is going to let these people manipulate him again and again in the future too. Who would need this kind of a love from this guy for a girl? If Sai was our sister, will we feel like sending her back to him? What is the assurance that he wouldn’t do anything like that again or let that lady Pakhi insult her or humiliate her. She calls her gold digger, khudgarz and what not and he doesn’t even flinch. Last time during the ousting too I wrote a post explaining that he was upset with Sai, so he couldn’t even hear all those comments, he was in another zone but what happened now? Everytime there cannot be an excuse for him to stand mum.

And I was adamant that he lets go these terms. hurled at her...max to max makes a face..Thats his usual.. its was nothing to do with his anger towards Sai.. We keep on justifying him letting her getting abused for some other or the reason.... If Sai wants to fight she can fight and get into a "cat fight" with his pyaarost ..He would not interfere in matters of women pitted against each other for him.. We have had discussion on this forum about why Sai doesnt respond to the advances of the man who called her his family..Well the same man, who threw her out for spoiling his sisters life after calling her his family and is fine with..the family who spoiled his sisters's life as well.. Chooses not to react much to his pyaarost claim to how she knew everything about Pulkit and his daughter being sent to orphanage for Parivar . Considering she abused ..still abuses Sai for going against the family..hardly reacts to Ninad calling Pakhi the real educated Bahu...and we have the ML this way.. I am not sure even GUL MLs after falling in love with the lady, grow a lot of backbone for her.. And I hate Gul's MLs, yeah I am saying right now a GUL ML in love with FL sounds better than this one.. Here I said. Maaro mujhe ab..

Edited by asmi_joya - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sukri

Yesterday, the dialogue Sai said to Pakhi , when she understood that Pakhi knew all along that Devkit married in Temple without witness and that Kaku gave away the newborn to orphanage, should have been said by Virat to create more impact.


From Virat's expression I am not sure if Virat understood the implication of what Pakhi said, I am not sure if his gray cells processed these:

1. She knew that Devkit were married in Temple

2. She knew Devkit had a child

3. She knew Kaku gave away the child to orphanage

4. She knew that Pulkit was telling truth by saying they were married

5. She knew the truth and still instigated Virat against Pulkit and tried to stop Devkit wedding

6. She knew the truth and yet she spewed venom against Sai and did not stop Virat from throwing Sai out of his life and house

7. She knew the truth and yet she stood for the wrong.


👏beautiful dear, exactly what we want Virat to realise after Pakhi spoke. But I thought as how it would have come across to him because of which he wouldn't react much today. As soon as I saw his reaction, I could understand that he thought the first 3 of your points, but not the others. He will only be thinking that Pakhi was also fooled by his Kaku just like how he was by made to believe that Pulkit was a cheat.

It looks to me like he might either ask Pakhi one of the questions from your point 4 to 7 or assume that Pakhi would have helped Kaku thinking Kaku was doing good to Devi. Isn't it true too? Pakhi was made to believe that Pulkit wasn't a good guy, she only believed Kaku. The letter was to stop Sai who wanted to unite Devi and Pulkit. Kaku's words made more sense to Pakhi than Sai's trust on Pulkit or Pulkit himself. Added to it was her jealousy and a desperation to defeat or put down Sai in the whole process.

I won't be surprised and it is quite natural for Virat to think that Pakhi was also played by his Kaku. He might start to think that Pakhi also had no clue that these people did all these only to separate Devi from Pulkit due to their status. He will think that Kaku would have lied to Pakhi that Pulkit was a cheat and that is why she helped Pakhi.


He should already know why Pakhi is doing all this and not again ask mujhe yeh samajh nahi aa raha hai tum aisa kyun kar rahi ho? I mean the poor girl has been telling him and showing him through her actions over past so many months. She tries her best and doesn't leave one chance. This is the only place where I sympathize with Pakhi, this man who wants his love to understand his actions over words, is unable to understand the action and words of his ex-gf bhabhi. She be like karun toh karun kya, bolun toh bolun kya?

I agree. She might be wrong but he is coming out as insensitive or selfish by acting confused towards her hurt or anger.

@bold exactly my question.


Main question he should have - Why did Kaku choose to tell this to Pakhi when kaku did not include even Sonali in this secret for so many years?

He won't think anything. Doesn't look like a person who gives thought to things to me. He might think before he acts but has hardly given thoughts to a lot of things. He has always failed in it from what I know. Has no curiousity or intuitions too.


Makers need to realize that just because the lead actor can emote amazingly doesn't mean they don't give him dialogues and let him continue to give expressions.

True


Yeh sab karke makers are making him fall in the eyes of audience. Even people like us who continue to give him benefit of doubt after every incident, fail to relate to him due to such behavior.

I had almost decided to quit watching after yesterday. Still here due to the people in the forum.


TBH, after I saw the episode I was not even surprised with Virat's behavior, but just shocked by Pakhi's stupidity. I wonder if I have given up on Virat already 😭

I have given up Sukri. Don't trust him at all, we know how he is going to be. You can decide once you watch tonight's episode.

I didn't expect the truth to get revealed now.

Pakhi's stupidity? Hmm, her motive has always been to put down Sai, and that is what she was anyway doing. What she spoke was to defend Kaku there by trying to shut Sai up and make it look like Sai is wrong, so though it is stupidity, it made sense for her to defend Kaku. Didn't she get the support of Omi and Ninad?

She hasn't understood Virat completely. He might love his family, might forgive them too but he would not be happy for what they did. Shouldn't she have understood his thoughts after Shivani buas incident? He wouldn't care if his sister had to stay as a single mother or become mom out of wed lock. He would be against them separating a child from her mother, not care about name or reputation, he is an emotional guy. His firsr reaction would be disgust even if he extends understanding later.


I am not going to comment on his behavior with family yet coz its incomplete and I want to see what he does today.

Yeah, even I will wait and watch. Won't join EDT tonight, have plans to travel tomorrow, just day trip, don't want to stay awake tonight and spoil our travel plans.

Edited by laksh - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Virat Chavan’s weakness is his family that includes his best friend. So obviously he won’t wish to see them taken to task . His soft corner for them is costing him very high a price.

The reason why Sai wants to leave CN despite knowing Virat’s heartfelt wish to keep her back ..is her reluctance and frustration to bear with the abuses thrown at her on daily basis. On top of it Pakhi intrudes their private space and accuses and abuses at her will. Virat can not control either his family or his friend..Sai understood this and hence want to leave Virat whom she adores though she can not identify her feelings for him as love not because she is naive but due to her awareness of the situation that never enable her to trust Virat’s unspoken love for her.

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Originally posted by: laksh

TBH, after I saw the episode I was not even surprised with Virat's behavior, but just shocked by Pakhi's stupidity. I wonder if I have given up on Virat already smiley19

I have given up Sukri. Don't trust him at all, we know how he is going to be. You can decide once you watch tonight's episode. I didn't expect the truth to get revealed now.


From BTS looks like Sai convinces Kaku and they hug it out.


I have some hopes from Mohit today, a bit from Ashwini too.

I want Sonali to question that a newcomer Pakhi was inducted to their criminal gang, whereas she who has been with the family doing chamchagiri and pouring money have not been made privy to the truth?


Omi should be like thats only coz Kaku wanted Pakhi to stop the marriage and she then gave us the idea of sangeeta deshpande letter.

Anwyays Virat is not going to do anything, but atleast the full truth should be out and after this birthday party, I want to be done with Devkit track. Bahut jheel liya.


Lets move on to next sibling - Samrat. He is the one am most interested to see.



Pakhi's stupidity? Hmm, her motive has always been to put down Sai, and that is what she was anyway doing. What she spoke was to defend Kaku there by trying to shut Sai up and make it look like Sai is wrong, so though it is stupidity, it made sense for her to defend Kaku. Didn't she get the support of Omi and Ninad?


She doesn't understand, by standing against Devkit in this matter, once Kaku-Devi work it out, people will still remember Pakhi's role more than Kaku's. Kaku will be forgiven, but Devi probably will always remember Pakhi's role in all this.




She hasn't understood Virat completely. He might love his family, might forgive them too but he would not be happy for what they did. Shouldn't she have understood his thoughts after Shivani buas incident? He wouldn't care if his sister had to stay as a single mother or become mom out of wed lock. He would be against them separating a child from her mother, not care about name or reputation, he is an emotional guy. His firsr reaction would be disgust even if he extends understanding later.

Agree, Pakhi doesn't understand Virat.

Virat surely doesn't care about duniya kya sochega or samajh kya sochega.

He is def more open minded than his family, he would have been fine with Tai being a single mother.

This is why we needed Shivani bua and Mansi bua in this scene. Even if not Mansi, Shivani could have been included.



I am not going to comment on his behavior with family yet coz its incomplete and I want to see what he does today.

Yeah, even I will wait and watch. Won't join EDT tonight, have plans to travel tomorrow, just day trip, don't want to stay awake tonight and spoil our travel plans.

Good - enjoy your travel. Its long weekend for me, so we are thinking of a road trip as well. Plus we are officially allowed to be mask free as its 2 weeks after my 2nd shot. Finally !!!



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