Virat is the Victim... - Page 12

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

There is something called as perspectives and the post that you find biased might not be biased to others and vice versa. You might like certain user posts but I might find them biased. Just because I feel differently doesn't make me a biased user. It's important to accept other people's POV. Some might find highlighting Sai’s fault as nitpicking but others might not so who decides what's unbiased and biased. It's all about perspectives. I can give you an example, there was a discussion here on the thread where some felt Virat hasn't stood up for Sai just coz he is not counter-attacking every claim of Pakhi but I believe in seeing the bigger picture. For me, he stood up for Sai and he doesn't have to counter answer every statement Palhi makes but the fact that he supported his wife and asked Pakhi to leave is more than enough but for some of might not be. Did anyone of Virat stan question that but when the same is said about Sai, people are labeled as biased and whatnot

The fact that you blamed only one set of people in Sai vs Virat says a lot. Regarding bold, I don't know what you were conveying but to me it sounds like you are saying if we hadn't dared to speak about Sai’s flaws then the forum would be peaceful or people would not have ganged up. It's just a forum where people share their views and in either case, I wouldn't step back just coz people find talking about forums fav character as biasedness.

Nitu , don't be shocked this new defination of unbiasness & constructive discussion , pls try to learn it , u will improve u vocabulary .

Unbiasness means keep criticizing ML mercilessly ,keep singing FL is flawed & keep claiming urself unbiased.

Constructive criticism keep mocking , targetting others , keep ranting there is no constructive discussion .

Originally posted by: Anamika32

But for me Sai and Virat are flawed. The script has butchered Virat enough. He was shown as a man of principles but when his anger and insecurity take over he acts nothing less of an animal- throwing out Sai/ denying her food etc. All of these seem out of character for a self-righteous person like Virat. But unfortunately, that's how who is. But he deeply regrets his mistakes, repents them, and makes amends. He is not outright evil. Maybe he can be grey. Well most of us are. Our anger gets the worst out of us. Same with Virat. If I ask myself I would any day prefer a flawed man who can own up to his mistakes than someone with holier than god attitude. I don't understand why people have a tough time accepting these negative shades of his- especially those who defend him. They sai we accept and then go on to bash sai and then say its sai who made him act accordingly. Jeez that's so problematic. For anyone who watches the show, its evident Virat is more flawed. Sai does make mistakes but ultimately her intentions are at the right place. Like for eg- DevKit Shaadi did because that was about Devis happiness and wouldn't have been possible without Sai. But the ways were wrong. On the other hand when Virat throws her out or denies food that's because of revenge. He wanted to make her life miserable and that's why he did that though later he repented. Well, I respect him for that. Irrespective I love him and accept him for the way he is. Unnecessary defense for him by bringing in Sai will obviously make people respond & gradually turn the post into Sai vs Virat. Why do people do it? If you like a character focus on the positives and hype him up na than bashing all other characters, labeling others. I went through most posts. They only pointed out what's wrong with the character. So why is there so much hostility. What Virat did is unequivocally wrong. But this also needs to keep in mind- he repented, he apologized because he has good values. He is not a negative character. Just like all of us anger got the worst in him. Sad that the angry side is only reserved for Sai

Truth be told Virat and Sai cannot be judged on the same parameters. Its ITV and script immensely benefit her. She will end by doing the right thing eventually which I dislike. However, that's how it is and she is shown as a better person if we compare Sai and Virat. There's no point arguing about this. I wish we have flawed FL's too but those days are far. But Sai also has to be more tactical and avoid confrontations for even small things. However, the character growth required in her is limited whereas since Virat is shown inhumane at times. So obviously he will get called out more. It will be foolish to say they are equally flawed. Also with Sai the growth is evident. The KD script makes Virat look pathetic. He repeats the same mistakes, Pakhi MU, tears, and apology but again a mistake- the cycle continues. I wsih they wrote original for Virat but have to work with whats given

Pakhi factor- Idk why people still say Sai is wrong and she should read signals. Perspective varies. I am adding some part from a post I wrote some days before

The audience knows Virat loves Sai, not because of his monologues but because of his actions. Remember the time during Holi when he said I love you sai? How did that end? she was thrown out of his house. That certainly was not love. But look at him now. He is standing with her against his family and that certainly is love.

The audience knows he no longer loves Pakhi. But does Sai know? No. If we are expecting her to understand unsaid feelings and gestures we should also remember he called Pakhi the most 'pyaari cheez' in front of Sai, he said he loves Pakhi even if that was a slip of tongue. Virat during the initial days of marriage many times made Sai feel Pakhi is important for him and we can't deny that. Even during the throwing-out drama, the min Sai spoke about Pakhi he shouted at her whereas Pakhi freely went on to call her gold digger.

Virat was evidently so much in Pakhis thoughts during the initial phase of marriage. Sai confronted him many times with the question of Pakhi. It was his responsibility to clear to her that Pakhi is nothing more than a Vahini. Sai tried many times to get this out of him but he never cared to explain and that's solely his fault. So naturally, Sai would assume he is still in love with Pakhi. What reason has she got to think otherwise. Her questions went unanswered. She knows Virat is a good man who would never pursue an EMA but she still thinks he can have Pakhi in his heart and she can't be blamed for that.

Going back t her deal marriage- She had just lost her father and even under such severe conditions Virat put forward his Vada. Imagine her state. A person as caring and sensitive as Virat went ahead and declared the option of a loveless marriage to someone who just became an orphan. Isn't that alone enough to make Sai think Pakhi &Virat are some sorts of star-crossed lovers?

On the other hand, let's talk about signals. Yes, Virat is dropping hints and they are obvious. But can they substitute words? No, they cant. Why should any self-respecting woman settle for someone who cants voice out his feelings? It's the minimum we expect from someone whom we love right? We need verbal assurance of love. One cant read the mind and be convinced of love. Romantic gestures and flirting alone cant be called love. Its not her ego, it's the self-respect and yearning to be told that you are loved.

We are asking why Sai cant read his signals? Okay, let me ask why couldn't Virat respond to her straight questions on Pakhi then? Its their nature. Virat runs away from confrontations and difficult situations. Sai on the other hand asks for verbal assurance. It's unfair to expect Sai should understand non-verbal gestures. Her ckt is loud and vocal and she needs words, unlike Virat who looks for actions. Confession can wait if he is scared of rejection. But Pakhi thing needs to be cleared. Sai deserves to know it. If the deal was worded and articulate so should be the clarification. Actions cant substitute words.

Do we all not expect ppl to voice out their love for us? Every girl deserves that. I would never fall for someone who told me he has someone in his heart no matter how many romantic gestures he makes. And that's what makes Sai different from Pakhi. Pakhi is obsessed with Virat even after him clearing out things. Sai on the other hand respects his feelings and is not imposing herself on him.

This is a perfect opportunity for them to start their story- communication is of utmost importance ppl. We can't expect others to understand our feelings. We voice them out. Nothing can substitute a confession- no amount of flirting.

Virat made the promise. The onus is on him to collect his feelings, confront his fears and voice out his love. After confession and clearing out Pakhi only he should expect the same love and affection in re🤣turn.

Well thought out post! I always feel we audience are the real victims - of the writer's laziness🤣.

I agree with all your points regarding Sai and Virat's flaws.

I think everyone should be attached to the story and not a particular character. It is then fun to observe the characters and their flaws and see how they deal with their flaws.That doesn't mean it's not okay to bash the characters - I take out my frustration on Sai and Virat all the time 🤣. Not just that, sometimes it is really hard to understand a character's POV (because it is badly written/executed) and people end up misunderstanding it. Again writers are the guilty party.👎🏼

To me personally, Virat's abusive behaviour seems inconsistent with his sensitive personality. Some viewers feel that this part of his personality was hidden - he himself was unaware of it - until circumstances forced that ugly side to come out. Some viewers insists that this butchering was deliberate - to show the FL suffering and to make her mahaan. I've seen actually seen such a thing happen too. Which is the correct analysis? We can only speculate, can't be sure.

In some ways Virat is a victim too - due to his toxic and abusive upbringing. His toxic flaws stems from growing up in the madhouse - where submission, punishment was the price of recieving conditional love. His family played an important role in breaking of his marriage and yet the ghar-ke-bade were so happy. In this respect (upbringing) Sai was slightly luckier. While she was a motherless child, she got unconditional love from her father - that built a strong self-esteem in her. While Ashwini did a commendable job of bringing up Virat with good values, she may have been neglectful because of the battle she herself was waging in the house. I guess the writers are going to whitewash this important aspect of Virat's upbringing by turning Bhavani into a decent woman. So whatever. 😒

The DevKit wedding track was such a disaster. It seems like a forced plot to achieve SaiRat separation - otherwise on its own it's absolutely nonsensical. Sai's actions did not have even an iota of logic. Lazy writing totally ruined the viewing experience. 😕

That said, I too believe Sai got the raw end of the deal in SaiRat marriage. The biggest satisfaction is in their journey together.

Originally posted by: dairymilkanu

Surely he will leave sai if she have another lover.He will not force her into his relationship.He may not love anyone after her we know how deeply he is fallen for her but surely will unite her with her lover

Sai and virat are both flawed.But most of the time we analyse only sai's feelings not virat's. He is facing taunts in the family due to sai.She also yells at him.He also knows she doesn't love him but only cares him.Virat is a person who seems to be happy but he has internal conflict. He never had any pretty moments in past now he is ashamed of it and is neither sure of his future. He wasn't showered by unconditional love his mother's love was hindered by BK.so when a girl with unconditional love came to his life he doesn't want to share her love even to his mother it is obivous in his words.

I feel so annoyed when everyone criticizes virat but not sai.Both are equally wrong in every matter of their conflict

Virat is not ashamed of his past Coz when he was interested in pakhi that time pakhi was not committed to samrat & yes virat is bit unlucky one coz he always received conditional love from everyone only Ashwani is d one who who really cares 4 him

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Well thought out post! I always feel we audience are the real victims - of the writer's laziness🤣.

I agree with all your points regarding Sai and Virat's flaws.

I think everyone should be attached to the story and not a particular character. It is then fun to observe the characters and their flaws and see how they deal with their flaws.That doesn't mean it's not okay to bash the characters - I take out my frustration on Sai and Virat all the time 🤣. Not just that, sometimes it is really hard to understand a character's POV (because it is badly written/executed) and people end up misunderstanding it. Again writers are the guilty party.👎🏼

To me personally, Virat's abusive behaviour seems inconsistent with his sensitive personality. Some viewers feel that this part of his personality was hidden - he himself was unaware of it - until circumstances forced that ugly side to come out. Some viewers insists that this butchering was deliberate - to show the FL suffering and to make her mahaan. I've seen actually seen such a thing happen too. Which is the correct analysis? We can only speculate, can't be sure.

In some ways Virat is a victim too - due to his toxic and abusive upbringing. His toxic flaws stems from growing up in the madhouse - where submission, punishment was the price of recieving conditional love. His family played an important role in breaking of his marriage and yet the ghar-ke-bade were so happy. In this respect (upbringing) Sai was slightly luckier. While she was a motherless child, she got unconditional love from her father - that built a strong self-esteem in her. While Ashwini did a commendable job of bringing up Virat with good values, she may have been neglectful because of the battle she herself was waging in the house. I guess the writers are going to whitewash this important aspect of Virat's upbringing by turning Bhavani into a decent woman. So whatever. 😒

The DevKit wedding track was such a disaster. It seems like a forced plot to achieve SaiRat separation - otherwise on its own it's absolutely nonsensical. Sai's actions did not have even an iota of logic. Lazy writing totally ruined the viewing experience. 😕

That said, I too believe Sai got the raw end of the deal in SaiRat marriage. The biggest satisfaction is in their journey together.

Hey Nethra!

What a beautiful response. Yes for me the beauty of the show is Sairat's journey- them complimenting each other in becoming better versions of themselves. Tbh they are polar opposites but they are the catalysts for each other's betterment. Apart from individual ckt traits, they as a team attract me the most. Its easy to analyse each character for its own faults, call them out while hoping for growth. I try to do that mostly with all characters.

Writing part- I absolutely agree. There are so many things with Sai and Virat which look out of characters but still get executed because it's an exact remake. I wish things were different. Virat's initial characterization compared to Ronno was excellent. He was a man of principles, but they will make him act in extremes here. They honestly make every ckt inconsistent here. If we look accordingly only Sai's character has an edge. The butchering part I believe is because its ITV. TRP audience relates to drama the most. we as young viewers crave for different content. I hope that happens too. Till then take all that they provide. And yes its all about perspective. This is art, each one interprets differently and that's the beauty of art. Its wonderful to read so many diff POVs here.

Parenting of Virat and Sai- Yes absolutely. Though a single child Sai was brought up with immense love and care. For Virat they did love him but he could never get accepted for the real Virat which comes out when he is with Sai. I think with the fam he has to portray himself as an ideal son. He's constrained and suffocated by their expectations. Sai brings out the real Virat for me. His conditioning undoubtedly played a role. That's why before Sai came into his family he never noticed the hardships his mother went through. It all seemed normal earlier. But now he actively raises his voice for his mother too. Again Sai becoming a catalyst for Virat. Virat on the other hand has helped Sai to tone down her confrontational nature.

Ashwini did a wonderful job in raising him with good values. It's evident from his belief system. but she herself was suppressed in that family. She was nothing less than a paid worker for them. I am happy to see her getting respect in the recent epi. But I dont think they will address all these issues. they have whitewashed Bhavni already. Honestly, this should all have been dealt with. Ninad even threatened to raise hands on Ashwini many times. I am sure she is also a victim of domestic abuse. But irrespective she did a wonderful job with all the kids be it Virat, Samrat or Devi.

Also DevKit shaadi was a disater. I am happy to see finally Devi being reunited with her husband. Pulkit deserves credit too- he waited for his wife for 10 long years. Devi deserved this happiness and it wouldn't have been possible without Sai. For 10 long years, nobody even paid attention to Devi's rant about her husband. But they had to do drama and separation for TRP's. Virat crossed limits but tbh separation helps them. They are stronger than before, understanding is evident, and are working as a team. So I am lowkey satisfied with separation. Waiting for open communication between them.

Yes now waiting to see the journey of Sairat. That's what matters to me the most.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Well thought out post! I always feel we audience are the real victims - of the writer's laziness🤣.

I agree with all your points regarding Sai and Virat's flaws.

I think everyone should be attached to the story and not a particular character. It is then fun to observe the characters and their flaws and see how they deal with their flaws.That doesn't mean it's not okay to bash the characters - I take out my frustration on Sai and Virat all the time 🤣. Not just that, sometimes it is really hard to understand a character's POV (because it is badly written/executed) and people end up misunderstanding it. Again writers are the guilty party.👎🏼

To me personally, Virat's abusive behaviour seems inconsistent with his sensitive personality. Some viewers feel that this part of his personality was hidden - he himself was unaware of it - until circumstances forced that ugly side to come out. Some viewers insists that this butchering was deliberate - to show the FL suffering and to make her mahaan. I've seen actually seen such a thing happen too. Which is the correct analysis? We can only speculate, can't be sure.

In some ways Virat is a victim too - due to his toxic and abusive upbringing. His toxic flaws stems from growing up in the madhouse - where submission, punishment was the price of recieving conditional love. His family played an important role in breaking of his marriage and yet the ghar-ke-bade were so happy. In this respect (upbringing) Sai was slightly luckier. While she was a motherless child, she got unconditional love from her father - that built a strong self-esteem in her. While Ashwini did a commendable job of bringing up Virat with good values, she may have been neglectful because of the battle she herself was waging in the house. I guess the writers are going to whitewash this important aspect of Virat's upbringing by turning Bhavani into a decent woman. So whatever. 😒

The DevKit wedding track was such a disaster. It seems like a forced plot to achieve SaiRat separation - otherwise on its own it's absolutely nonsensical. Sai's actions did not have even an iota of logic. Lazy writing totally ruined the viewing experience. 😕

That said, I too believe Sai got the raw end of the deal in SaiRat marriage. The biggest satisfaction is in their journey together.

I agree ..Virat has not have had a great upbringing , whatever good he has , is probably his mother's goodness and his own... You see this man doing an inhumane act and yet flinching when his father mentions how he has to be praised for being the Chavhan Khandan ka chirag.. Virat would be whitewashed for sure, because they cant have an ACP officer who would always keep farz prioritized over his family and yet fails to arrest a member of his family when a crime is committed by that member, due to emotional blackmails😭.. We as audience have also accepted that aspect of it all when it comes to Virat, because of the imprints, the 'good Virat' has left on us.

Originally posted by: Anamika32

I was a bit shocked by the topic title. But then I read most of the comments and it seemed like a heated discussion. I am a total Sairat shipper. In general, I find most Sai VS Virat posts disappointing and annoying because they are unnecessarily pitted against each other. They are growing individually and together as a couple. So it doesn't really make sense for me to see them being pitted against each other. Koi competition nahi chal rahi un hai dono ka. But I also read how in another post Virat was made to look like a Victim and I assume this was created as a response. Well as an unbiased Sairat shipper I would say this was much needed. Thank you for making this post. Well, it's funny that I read Virat is a victim. He is one but of his actions and unnecessary Vadas.

But for me Sai and Virat are flawed. The script has butchered Virat enough. He was shown as a man of principles but when his anger and insecurity take over he acts nothing less of an animal- throwing out Sai/ denying her food etc. All of these seem out of character for a self-righteous person like Virat. But unfortunately, that's how who is. But he deeply regrets his mistakes, repents them, and makes amends. He is not outright evil. Maybe he can be grey. Well most of us are. Our anger gets the worst out of us. Same with Virat. If I ask myself I would any day prefer a flawed man who can own up to his mistakes than someone with holier than god attitude. I don't understand why people have a tough time accepting these negative shades of his- especially those who defend him. They sai we accept and then go on to bash sai and then say its sai who made him act accordingly. Jeez that's so problematic.

True that. Virat vs sai can't be the problem..we need not put one down to show the other as the better one.. @ red . Completely agree there..he created a huge mess by asking pakhi to marry samrat and then made another deal with sai..

I slightly disagree with the bolded part..problem isn't that virat is flawed or he becomes blind in rage , problem is, the flaw is selective.. While he reacts in the worst possible manner with sai, he shows a lot of restraint with pakhi and his family. He should have punished omi the same way he punished sai .or acted calmly with sai... He seems to be a witness to his mom's humiliation over a period of time , yet he hardly reacts..he can be negative as much but he comes across as a hypocrite and that's where his character is weak..his and pakhis character are not well written ....n sai is not to be blamed for this.

Sai on the other hand , has a soft spot for everyone including pakhi and this is when she is humiliated by the same ppl 24x7. She tells the truth , and virat & his family don't wanna hear the truth or avoid confronting the issue...that's why sai is called disrespectful and akhad. If all of them behave well with her , she will do the same...Sai may be inconsistent at times but not as badly written as virat.

Originally posted by: Anamika32

I was a bit shocked by the topic title. But then I read most of the comments and it seemed like a heated discussion. I am a total Sairat shipper. In general, I find most Sai VS Virat posts disappointing and annoying because they are unnecessarily pitted against each other. They are growing individually and together as a couple. So it doesn't really make sense for me to see them being pitted against each other. Koi competition nahi chal rahi un hai dono ka. But I also read how in another post Virat was made to look like a Victim and I assume this was created as a response. Well as an unbiased Sairat shipper I would say this was much needed. Thank you for making this post. Well, it's funny that I read Virat is a victim. He is one but of his actions and unnecessary Vadas.

But for me Sai and Virat are flawed. The script has butchered Virat enough. He was shown as a man of principles but when his anger and insecurity take over he acts nothing less of an animal- throwing out Sai/ denying her food etc. All of these seem out of character for a self-righteous person like Virat. But unfortunately, that's how who is. But he deeply regrets his mistakes, repents them, and makes amends. He is not outright evil. Maybe he can be grey. Well most of us are. Our anger gets the worst out of us. Same with Virat. If I ask myself I would any day prefer a flawed man who can own up to his mistakes than someone with holier than god attitude. I don't understand why people have a tough time accepting these negative shades of his- especially those who defend him. They sai we accept and then go on to bash sai and then say its sai who made him act accordingly. Jeez that's so problematic. For anyone who watches the show, its evident Virat is more flawed. Sai does make mistakes but ultimately her intentions are at the right place. Like for eg- DevKit Shaadi did because that was about Devis happiness and wouldn't have been possible without Sai. But the ways were wrong. On the other hand when Virat throws her out or denies food that's because of revenge. He wanted to make her life miserable and that's why he did that though later he repented. Well, I respect him for that. Irrespective I love him and accept him for the way he is. Unnecessary defense for him by bringing in Sai will obviously make people respond & gradually turn the post into Sai vs Virat. Why do people do it? If you like a character focus on the positives and hype him up na than bashing all other characters, labeling others. I went through most posts. They only pointed out what's wrong with the character. So why is there so much hostility. What Virat did is unequivocally wrong. But this also needs to keep in mind- he repented, he apologized because he has good values. He is not a negative character. Just like all of us anger got the worst in him. Sad that the angry side is only reserved for Sai

Truth be told Virat and Sai cannot be judged on the same parameters. Its ITV and script immensely benefit her. She will end by doing the right thing eventually which I dislike. However, that's how it is and she is shown as a better person if we compare Sai and Virat. There's no point arguing about this. I wish we have flawed FL's too but those days are far. But Sai also has to be more tactical and avoid confrontations for even small things. However, the character growth required in her is limited whereas since Virat is shown inhumane at times. So obviously he will get called out more. It will be foolish to say they are equally flawed. Also with Sai the growth is evident. The KD script makes Virat look pathetic. He repeats the same mistakes, Pakhi MU, tears, and apology but again a mistake- the cycle continues. I wsih they wrote original for Virat but have to work with whats given

Pakhi factor- Idk why people still say Sai is wrong and she should read signals. Perspective varies. I am adding some part from a post I wrote some days before

The audience knows Virat loves Sai, not because of his monologues but because of his actions. Remember the time during Holi when he said I love you sai? How did that end? she was thrown out of his house. That certainly was not love. But look at him now. He is standing with her against his family and that certainly is love.

The audience knows he no longer loves Pakhi. But does Sai know? No. If we are expecting her to understand unsaid feelings and gestures we should also remember he called Pakhi the most 'pyaari cheez' in front of Sai, he said he loves Pakhi even if that was a slip of tongue. Virat during the initial days of marriage many times made Sai feel Pakhi is important for him and we can't deny that. Even during the throwing-out drama, the min Sai spoke about Pakhi he shouted at her whereas Pakhi freely went on to call her gold digger.

Virat was evidently so much in Pakhis thoughts during the initial phase of marriage. Sai confronted him many times with the question of Pakhi. It was his responsibility to clear to her that Pakhi is nothing more than a Vahini. Sai tried many times to get this out of him but he never cared to explain and that's solely his fault. So naturally, Sai would assume he is still in love with Pakhi. What reason has she got to think otherwise. Her questions went unanswered. She knows Virat is a good man who would never pursue an EMA but she still thinks he can have Pakhi in his heart and she can't be blamed for that.

Going back t her deal marriage- She had just lost her father and even under such severe conditions Virat put forward his Vada. Imagine her state. A person as caring and sensitive as Virat went ahead and declared the option of a loveless marriage to someone who just became an orphan. Isn't that alone enough to make Sai think Pakhi &Virat are some sorts of star-crossed lovers?

On the other hand, let's talk about signals. Yes, Virat is dropping hints and they are obvious. But can they substitute words? No, they cant. Why should any self-respecting woman settle for someone who cants voice out his feelings? It's the minimum we expect from someone whom we love right? We need verbal assurance of love. One cant read the mind and be convinced of love. Romantic gestures and flirting alone cant be called love. Its not her ego, it's the self-respect and yearning to be told that you are loved.

We are asking why Sai cant read his signals? Okay, let me ask why couldn't Virat respond to her straight questions on Pakhi then? Its their nature. Virat runs away from confrontations and difficult situations. Sai on the other hand asks for verbal assurance. It's unfair to expect Sai should understand non-verbal gestures. Her ckt is loud and vocal and she needs words, unlike Virat who looks for actions. Confession can wait if he is scared of rejection. But Pakhi thing needs to be cleared. Sai deserves to know it. If the deal was worded and articulate so should be the clarification. Actions cant substitute words.

Do we all not expect ppl to voice out their love for us? Every girl deserves that. I would never fall for someone who told me he has someone in his heart no matter how many romantic gestures he makes. And that's what makes Sai different from Pakhi. Pakhi is obsessed with Virat even after him clearing out things. Sai on the other hand respects his feelings and is not imposing herself on him.

This is a perfect opportunity for them to start their story- communication is of utmost importance ppl. We can't expect others to understand our feelings. We voice them out. Nothing can substitute a confession- no amount of flirting.

Virat made the promise. The onus is on him to collect his feelings, confront his fears and voice out his love. After confession and clearing out Pakhi only he should expect the same love and affection in return.

Also few of those who claim to be Virat stans-y'all started it by making Virat a victim, bashing Sai in the process. If restraint was shown this wouldn't have happened. IDK how one cant see the flaws of their fav character and then go on to bash the rest. Even here too a few they intentionally started arguments by mocking and bashing ckts and real ppl. The constructive discussion seems to not work here

I'll talk about this. No Virat stan defends Virat's inhumane behaviour. All equally thrashed him last month ya in February. And about restraint ? What restraint? You should have visited last month, there wasn't a single day when threads and topics aren't opened against Virat. His each and every dialogues were pin pointed was made an issue and when someone tried to counter it, they're name-called and also were called regressive mentality. There had been many Virat fans when I joined the forum but now very less Virat stan left, and some on the verge of leaving. No one never denied either Sai or Virat is flawed, but the double standards are always present. That's what irks me. Virat is a badly written character, he's half copied from his counterpart, one-fourth writer's laziness, one-fourth a good part. That what makes him less stanworthy. On the other hand, Sai is a well written and as strong as her counterpart may be better than her counterpart, that's why many people like to side with Sai. If anyone pointed out Sai's flaw, that people is made a Virat stan or a person of regressive mentality. Why? Can't that people be Sai fan and talk about her mistake. Me being a couple fan never stopped bringing out both their mistakes and also hailed when both did something good. Then why someone with different perspective is called out?

Originally posted by: _charu_

True that. Virat vs sai can't be the problem..we need not put one down to show the other as the better one.. @ red . Completely agree there..he created a huge mess by asking pakhi to marry samrat and then made another deal with sai..

I slightly disagree with the bolded part..problem isn't that virat is flawed or he becomes blind in rage , problem is, the flaw is selective.. While he reacts in the worst possible manner with sai, he shows a lot of restraint with pakhi and his family. He should have punished omi the same way he punished sai .or acted calmly with sai... He seems to be a witness to his mom's humiliation over a period of time , yet he hardly reacts..he can be negative as much but he comes across as a hypocrite and that's where his character is weak..his and pakhis character are not well written ....n sai is not to be blamed for this.

Sai on the other hand , has a soft spot for everyone including pakhi and this is when she is humiliated by the same ppl 24x7. She tells the truth , and virat & his family don't wanna hear the truth or avoid confronting the issue...that's why sai is called disrespectful and akhad. If all of them behave well with her , she will do the same...Sai may be inconsistent at times but not as badly written as virat.

Exactly where the problem lies.. For similar situation he behaves differently. And thats where I see they failed the character they initially introduced.. I have time and again said, I was into Virat because of what he was shown to be in the initial episodes..

True..truth when spoken with an unabashed attitude , becomes a pain point specially in a family like the Chavans..

Sai has her own issues when it comes to doing what she wants is right, without weighing the pros and cons, but she has her heart at its place.. That's an issue with her mannerism.. Just like Virat has, when he doesnt want to get into and argument with Patralekha or his family members every single time and avoids confrontations and evades situations.. Thats a flaw in his mannerism.. Both the flaws can be dealt with.. Because they are both good people there..

But Virat is more flawed when it comes to his actions and repercussions of his actions.. He is so so extreme when it comes to Sai.. He then acts without weighing the pros and cons and he does not do with his heart on place, best example could be when Ninad , praised him for being the son of Chavan Niwas while punished Sai when he ousted her, He cringed, he flinched. He does not want to be that man.. and yet he has no control over his anger and his actions..

I also agree, that Sai cannot be blamed for weakly written Virat... Unfortunately because of the writing, he has done more mistakes. .And Of course everything is writing only.. Be it Sai or Virat..

Originally posted by: AninditaB

I'll talk about this. No Virat stan defends Virat's inhumane behaviour. All equally thrashed him last month ya in February. And about restraint ? What restraint? You should have visited last month, there wasn't a single day when threads and topics aren't opened against Virat. His each and every dialogues were pin pointed was made an issue and when someone tried to counter it, they're name-called and also were called regressive mentality. There had been many Virat fans when I joined the forum but now very less Virat stan left, and some on the verge of leaving. No one never denied either Sai or Virat is flawed, but the double standards are always present. That's what irks me. Virat is a badly written character, he's half copied from his counterpart, one-fourth writer's laziness, one-fourth a good part. That what makes him less stanworthy. On the other hand, Sai is a well written and as strong as her counterpart may be better than her counterpart, that's why many people like to side with Sai. If anyone pointed out Sai's flaw, that people is made a Virat stan or a person of regressive mentality. Why? Can't that people be Sai fan and talk about her mistake. Me being a couple fan never stopped bringing out both their mistakes and also hailed when both did something good. Then why someone with different perspective is called out?

Hey

I am done explaining myself. I went through both posts that were created yesterday and voiced out waht I felt. Go through all pots, its evident who started the mocking and bashing. Please don't quote me and stretch the mess. I don't want to be involved. All of you are entitled to your opinions just like I am entitled to mine. My post is quite specific, I don't know what happened before. So I can't comment on it.

There you said it- Virat is not a well-written character- or maybe that's the characters writers wanted to show. People call it out and I see nothing wrong in it. When I came to the forum I was treated badly by a few who replied on this topic as well- I was name called and labelled. So let's not comment further on it. I don't know where the regressive mentality comes from. I never said that. You are saying it. Just like you, I am couple fan and I bring out both mistakes. I find him stan worthy for a no of reasons but again his flaws remain. I dont make posts about Sai Vs Virat. It's a waste of time for me. Go through my posts, it's evident. The problem was not putting forward Virats POV. The problem on this particular topic was unnecessary bashing and ridicule of real ppl and fictional characters. I found that offensive and called it out. Also if you are talking about Sai fans- I saw ppl pointing out her mistakes aswell. So idk, I cant comment for everybody

Anyway peace out pls

Originally posted by: _charu_

True that. Virat vs sai can't be the problem..we need not put one down to show the other as the better one.. @ red . Completely agree there..he created a huge mess by asking pakhi to marry samrat and then made another deal with sai..

I slightly disagree with the bolded part..problem isn't that virat is flawed or he becomes blind in rage , problem is, the flaw is selective.. While he reacts in the worst possible manner with sai, he shows a lot of restraint with pakhi and his family. He should have punished omi the same way he punished sai .or acted calmly with sai... He seems to be a witness to his mom's humiliation over a period of time , yet he hardly reacts..he can be negative as much but he comes across as a hypocrite and that's where his character is weak..his and pakhis character are not well written ....n sai is not to be blamed for this.

Sai on the other hand , has a soft spot for everyone including pakhi and this is when she is humiliated by the same ppl 24x7. She tells the truth , and virat & his family don't wanna hear the truth or avoid confronting the issue...that's why sai is called disrespectful and akhad. If all of them behave well with her , she will do the same...Sai may be inconsistent at times but not as badly written as virat.

Hey Charu

Well said and I completely agree

Bold- That's an interesting point. Yes Sai cant be blamed for this, I wonder sometimes if thats what writers wanted to show- a shallow person. Omi's case is something I myself ignore because the bias was so evident. Omi committed the same crime he thought Sai also did. But he let him go so easily and that comes across as hypocrisy. His selective silence is also problematic. May be they want to portray such a character?

Sai part- Agree completely. She responds to ppl the way they deal with her. Aai, Devi and bua loved her hence she too reciprocated with love. That's the beauty of her character. If chavans were lovable with her she would have extended the same love back as well.