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Originally posted by: NoraSM

I am sorry but if anyone has gained from this show it is Ayesha, why do you guys keep saying that she is not getting her dues? They write the best dialogues for her, Majority loves Sai and some love enough to project the dynamic of Pakhi-Virat-Sai on Neil - Aish - Ayesha

Star Plus promotes it as her show, In which world her dialogues are butchered, in fact Pakhi's dialogues don't even make any sense, they don't even put any efforts, just add "Beizzati" here and there

I thought they made some alcoholic on set write dialogues for Virat because I was expecting something even 1/10th of what they wrote for Sai

I do agree that Ayesha has gained the most from the show. I know Neil was had a fanbase already, but Aishwarya has gained a lot too. I love Sai, but I am not in love of fictional characters enough to mistake Pakhi-Virat and Sai as Neil, Aish and Aayesha. However, when the actors playing ML and Vamp in every interview kept calling character of Sai "badtameez" in same tune, but when Pakhi was asking for EMA to Virat and acting OTT in the hospital even after Virat's constant refusal, the ML in his real life social media defended the character of Pakhi saying they are trying to portray love of Pakhi and Sai for Virat. That is not me or another fan mistaking the reel for real, it is the actor playing ML doing it!!

Exactly, Pakhi's dialogues don't even make sense because the character after sometime makes no sense. However, the screen space of the character is almost equivalent to ML and FL. In yesterday's episode too she was there in more than half of the episode. If the Beizati wasn't there her character would have been bashed even more because the way the character goes on shouting at the female in the couple and insults her while the male in the couple softly answers her or stays quiet. In yesterday's episode too the dialogue to Sai from Virat that "tum Pakhi ki aisi baizati kyu kar rahi ho" was ridiculous because the actual aggressor was Pakhi, but such dialogue is never deliverd to Pakhi by Virat in Sai's presence, but yes in Pakhi's presence Sai is told anything and everything.

Here I agree they made an alcoholic write dialogues for Virat because otherwise in yesterday's episodes and many more he wouldn't have told Sai that "she was insulting Pakhi" when the reality was otherwise!!

When actors give interviews and on their time line defend the useless actions of a fictional character they are playing is ridiculous. I don't see why they do this unless its real-life equations coming in to play!! I respect your opinion, but I stick to mine.

Originally posted by: Sairat

That victim has time and again bwen given the opportunity and has not come clear.

Do you not agree that after marriage when Pakhi went home he fought with Sai and told her how he feels about Pakhi..

And there are many other instances that has led Sai to believe that he still harbours feeling toward pakhi.

What is wrong in telling the truth ,that once hr harboured a feeling of attraction towards the women; that was before even she got married to his brother and after that he has never felt a thing for her and he loves Sai...

If there is nothing wrong in what Virat has done/ doing than why can't he come clean.

Its not about care or anything its simple; he knows very well that the other party is still very much interested in him and he is avoiding that confrontation.

He himself knows how much it hurts Sai; but he won't do the right thing because it put him under the blade..so Sai should suffer.

Tell me onething if roles were reversed ; and Sai had a best friend who time and again would have made it clear that he is interested in Sai despite Sai being married..What would have Virat had done??would he had played happy family like he is playing now..??

We all know the answer don't we; he cannot even bear if Sai talks to someone nicely on phone; flirts with someone; dances on someone's tune...

But she should understand and not blame Virat for a mess that he created himself and refuses to clear it.

It was sai who wanted to know his views.

Virat faught with her , if I m right he only took stand for her when Cgang who trying to criticize him against sai as he told them sai is reason of pakhi's return even he defended sai infront of pakhi & her parents.

My only question why sai keep returning now she has freed virat from KJ's promise also , why can't she leave virat once & 4 all if she so unhappy with virat & pakhi .

Vaise to be true sai knows virat dont enjoy pakhi's company. In hospital she herself was blackmailing virat of calling pakhi if he don't let her do her work. Why will anyone not enjoy d person's company whom he loves so much infact he choose sai above pakhi.

Vaise will sai accept if virat's clearly tell her coz sai only what she think is right .

Originally posted by: Stardust91

Are we being unfair to the actors though? I am not siding with anyone; just playing devil's advocate here BUT some people would have flatly REFUSED to do certain scenes and considering how long Neil has been in the industry the CVs would have had to write the scenes around his refusal. Or the interactions off screen would be so minimal and there would be no off screen interviews with Neil and Ayesha.

I know Star Plus is a Disney company and Disney is TOO BIG to care what some ITV actor thinks BUT PH and CVs would have to sort issues before it went to the Disney bosses.

Trust me, I am talking from YEARS of ITV experience -- i am in my 20s and i have been watching ITV since i was a teenager; so YEARS of experience with leads, FDs, IF, etc etc

You know frankly, I was thinking that fanbase was being unfair to the actors because they were engaged in real life. I am neither on social media nor do I watch interviews. However, once all of those things got discussed in the forums and people have posted many videos an proofs here. I was still skeptical to say confidently that real and reel are intertwined here. But Neil's post defending Aishwarya's character "Pakhi" by saying they are trying to portray Pakhi's and Sai's love for Virat and its not...... was the final nail for me. Neil and Aishwarya from day one have kept saying in interviews that Sai is rude, she should not talk like this like that and all that, but not even once when there has been verbalized the faults of Pakhi by any of them. WHY? Intially, I thought Sai is rude, so they are saying it, but right now Pakhi is wrong and imposes herself on Virat, but Neil says its not sexual harassment. In which world?

I know Neil has been in the industry for long, but likes of Rajeev Khandelwal, Iqbal Khan have been taken out of the show for their conditional refusals. There are hardly offscreen interviews of Neil and Ayesha and even then the Aishwraya jumps in between to hog the lime light. Aayesha is sidelined in the interviews. Fans demand Aayesha thats why off late we see more of it, but otherwise Neil and Aishwraya have been interviewing and bashing Sai in chorus!

I am not an ardent ITV fan, so don't watch it regularly. But certain clear things I can't unsee!! Just my opinion and you are entitled to yours!!

Originally posted by: Fruitcustard_9

It was sai who wanted to know his views.

Virat faught with her , if I m right he only took stand for her when Cgang who trying to criticize him against sai as he told them sai is reason of pakhi's return even he defended sai infront of pakhi & her parents.

My only question why sai keep returning now she has freed virat from KJ's promise also , why can't she leave virat once & 4 all if she so unhappy with virat & pakhi .

Vaise to be true sai knows virat dont enjoy pakhi's company. In hospital she herself was blackmailing virat of calling pakhi if he don't let her do her work. Why will anyone not enjoy d person's company whom he loves so much infact he choose sai above pakhi.

Vaise will sai accept if virat's clearly tell her coz sai only what she think is right .

I have posted my views on another topic and answerwd your questions there.

Sai might have her own shortcomings that should be treated but yeswhen Virat clearly puts his point that Patralekha does not matter but it took Sai to be in coma and loose her voice to do that..

Originally posted by: methebest

You know frankly, I was thinking that fanbase was being unfair to the actors because they were engaged in real life. I am neither on social media nor do I watch interviews. However, once all of those things got discussed in the forums and people have posted many videos an proofs here. I was still skeptical to say confidently that real and reel are intertwined here. But Neil's post defending Aishwarya's character "Pakhi" by saying they are trying to portray Pakhi's and Sai's love for Virat and its not...... was the final nail for me. Neil and Aishwarya from day one have kept saying in interviews that Sai is rude, she should not talk like this like that and all that, but not even once when there has been verbalized the faults of Pakhi by any of them. WHY? Intially, I thought Sai is rude, so they are saying it, but right now Pakhi is wrong and imposes herself on Virat, but Neil says its not sexual harassment. In which world?

I know Neil has been in the industry for long, but likes of Rajeev Khandelwal, Iqbal Khan have been taken out of the show for their conditional refusals. There are hardly offscreen interviews of Neil and Ayesha and even then the Aishwraya jumps in between to hog the lime light. Aayesha is sidelined in the interviews. Fans demand Aayesha thats why off late we see more of it, but otherwise Neil and Aishwraya have been interviewing and bashing Sai in chorus!

I am not an ardent ITV fan, so don't watch it regularly. But certain clear things I can't unsee!! Just my opinion and you are entitled to yours!!

Neil and Ayesha have just posted happy 200 episodes. Sairat thank you for your love.

Also I don't want to comment on Rajeev or Iqbal because I was around during KYPH and well aware of a LOT of what happened then. I can also name actors who have refused to do a LOT on screen because of their SO and the channel and PH have accommodated.

As for Sai, you don't think she is rude when she wants to be?

Pakhi - I don't like her character and she is delusional but sexual harassment is a MAJOR accusation. So any girl that has a crush on a guy and he refuses but she is delusional and can't move on is sexually harassing him? Really?

Somethings to ponder over for me I guess.

Off course I have my opinion and I obviously won't change it based on what is stated on a forum. I will look for evidence and analyse and then decide.

Thanks for your input.

Originally posted by: AninditaB

Idk why people think an ITV actor can influence the channel?

Channel has to approve the script, and for Channel, purely Sairat matters.

Anyone who watched KD can tell how Rupkotha was influential in all the scenes, how much she had screenspace and bolder dialogues. Here, now even Pakhi's screenspace is reduced and her dialogues are horrible.

Virat is completely different from Rono!! Anyone who watched KD knows how much Rono loved Badshah or was guilty for his MIA. Here Virat is guilty much much more than Rono. He loves Samrat unconditionally that's why he's not stern.

While watching KD, I have to find out or to say dig out romantic scenes, bold scenes like this toh durr ki baat. Do you even think Neil can be forced to do such scenes or the writers will write for him if he had that influence?

Ayesha is not sidelined anymore. She's famous in both online and offline. The show is Sai's and she's Sai like how the original was, Imon's show.

I never mentioned that TV actors influence the channel. I don't know Pakhi's screen space is less than that of Rupkotha or her dialogues are good or bad compared to Rupkotha, I am just talking in terms of Pakhi, Sai and Virat being effected by Aishwarya and Neil's real relationship.

I haven't watched KD and I don't understand the language in that show, so even when I watch the clips of the show posted here, I can't tell what exactly is being said or emoted. I am not even comparing Virat and Rono. I never mentioned of that comparison.

From the very beginning Neil and Aish have been interviewing and bashing Sai's character in chorus. But when Pakhi's character comes out in the open about her feelings and continuously imposes herself on Virat even after Virat's displeasure and refusal, Neil goes on to defend the Character of Pakhi and saying its not sexual harassment, but the love of Pakhi and Sai for Virat. Initially, I refused to believe that off screen equations played a role even when they both bashed Sai, but after the public post of the actor, I have no doubts in my mind about real equations playing a role!

About romantic scenes I am only talking about Ghum not KD. I haven't watched it or comparing it. I am sure Neil is the biggest star, I didn't know him much, but the likes of Iqbal Khan and Rajeev Khandelwal have been dropped for disagreements even after long popularity. I don't think anyone can be forced, but people have to part ways when disagreements happen.

I totally agree that now Aayesha is not being sidelined because audience love her. They realized howmuch flake Aish gets for getting in every interview and chorusing with Neil to bash Sai. Neil has bashed Sai for being badtmeez, but defended Pakhi even after the character going openly characterless. Despite of the actors playing ML and Vamp interviewing together sidelining the actor playing FL, the actress playing FL is popular because of the audience. The credit goes to the audience and the actress hard work and her improvement graph. To me there is no doubt that real life euqtions play role. I respect your opinion, but stick to mine.

Originally posted by: Stardust91

Neil and Ayesha have just posted happy 200 episodes. Sairat thank you for your love.

Also I don't want to comment on Rajeev or Iqbal because I was around during KYPH and well aware of a LOT of what happened then. I can also name actors who have refused to do a LOT on screen because of their SO and the channel and PH have accommodated.

As for Sai, you don't think she is rude when she wants to be?

Pakhi - I don't like her character and she is delusional but sexual harassment is a MAJOR accusation. So any girl that has a crush on a guy and he refuses but she is delusional and can't move on is sexually harassing him? Really?

Somethings to ponder over for me I guess.

Off course I have my opinion and I obviously won't change it based on what is stated on a forum. I will look for evidence and analyse and then decide.

Thanks for your input.

I do agree Sai's character is rude, but why Pakhi's character given such green light by the actor? If Sai's rudeness is evident and can be sung in chorus by both the actors laying ML and vamp why not come out clean about Pakhi. Instead he goes on to compare the reel wife's love to reel Bhabhi's love on real time line. I

To me YES it is sexual harassments and to many it is YES too. When a male does that do female after refusal it is called harassments shouldn't it be true the other way around too?

I hope me bringing my points out doesn't feel as of I am trying to refuse your points or be confrontational. I am liking our discussion and appreciate your view point.

copy&paste as expected lets see how they execute it but virat will not confess his feelings for sure abhi bhi time hai uskey liye infact as per KD it will be sai who will confess her feelings first thats what i heard

this track sets for the next major drama that deals with virat's insecurities as distance will be set by sai due to didi

Originally posted by: methebest

I never mentioned that TV actors influence the channel. I don't know Pakhi's screen space is less than that of Rupkotha or her dialogues are good or bad compared to Rupkotha, I am just talking in terms of Pakhi, Sai and Virat being effected by Aishwarya and Neil's real relationship.

I haven't watched KD and I don't understand the language in that show, so even when I watch the clips of the show posted here, I can't tell what exactly is being said or emoted. I am not even comparing Virat and Rono. I never mentioned of that comparison.

From the very beginning Neil and Aish have been interviewing and bashing Sai's character in chorus. But when Pakhi's character comes out in the open about her feelings and continuously imposes herself on Virat even after Virat's displeasure and refusal, Neil goes on to defend the Character of Pakhi and saying its not sexual harassment, but the love of Pakhi and Sai for Virat. Initially, I refused to believe that off screen equations played a role even when they both bashed Sai, but after the public post of the actor, I have no doubts in my mind about real equations playing a role!

I'll talk about this. Once even Aish said that with Virat Sai isn't happy then Neil defended telling Pakhi doesn't know what happens inside the four walls of their room. He defended Sai. About the Ladakh trip interview you're talking about, I remember that he didn't tell anything against Sai, it was Aishwarya who commented on Sai.

Now coming on recent fiasco, we all bashed him equally. I've not been here, but in other SNS I too called out him for that story. But sexual harassment was a grave term used for the particular scene, which was posted. It was violation of consent and mental harassment. It was Aishwarya who coined sexual harassment at the topic. And same topic was done by Ayesha, she told Pakhi is like that because she's in love. So it's the whole cast who defend Pakhi not alone the ML.

About romantic scenes I am only talking about Ghum not KD. I haven't watched it or comparing it. I am sure Neil is the biggest star, I didn't know him much, but the likes of Iqbal Khan and Rajeev Khandelwal have been dropped for disagreements even after long popularity. I don't think anyone can be forced, but people have to part ways when disagreements happen.

I'm talking about Neil so I will be happy if other actors aren't mentioned.

I totally agree that now Aayesha is not being sidelined because audience love her. They realized howmuch flake Aish gets for getting in every interview and chorusing with Neil to bash Sai. Neil has bashed Sai for being badtmeez, but defended Pakhi even after the character going openly characterless. Despite of the actors playing ML and Vamp interviewing together sidelining the actor playing FL, the actress playing FL is popular because of the audience. The credit goes to the audience and the actress hard work and her improvement graph. To me there is no doubt that real life euqtions play role. I respect your opinion, but stick to mine.

Even Ayesha too defended Pakhi in her live, I can bring. I'm equally a fan of Ayesha, no one can play Sai better than her. Interviews are decided by pH. It was Neil who brought Ayesha in cake cutting in the launch party, in 100 episode celebration to cut the Sairat cake. Today also they thanked fan together. I watched a show where ML and FL didn't even thank the jodi fans, no interview together, not even in segments, so I can clearly stand on my point.

Let's agree to disagree

I don’t know why is there a compulsion to show Ayesha- Neil as some great friends. They are good colleagues and they have a good chemistry onscreen- that’s what matters to me. Its evident he doesn’t care much for her Sairat posts. Common we have all seen the nos. He hardly even comments on Ayesha post but is very active with other actors. That’s so disrespectful. Funny the only time he used a full sentence was when Ayesha posted with Aish. He doesn’t really care about Sairat promotions. On the contrary he was active whenever he shares scenes with Aishwarya/ Virakhi edits. Don’t tell me this is not deliberate. I am okay with it because his choice but people stop defending him with lame excuses like only Virakhi edits tag him. But I don’t understand why Ayesha gets dragged every-time when Neil & Aishwarya story was posted.
Neil & Aishwarya was definitely wrong there. It wasn’t done on an impulse. When you post a story, you think and write. It was so grossly done. Aish was wrong and Neil endorsed it. As a viewer they both are wrong to me. Also I wonder if Neil would have intervened if not for Aish. The post clearly said harassment. Aish added sexual harassment. If Neil reposts that story- he’s endorsing her view. That was problematic. He should have addressed it with her than posting the story online.

Coming to Ayesha love- a user badmouth Pakhi. Ayesha said what came to her mind in the moment. She didn’t think and write unlike Neil & Aish story. That was an impulse. She didn’t defend her, instead made a statement. She can be called out for that. But equating that to the blunder Neil & Aish did is a far stretch my dears. Neil & Aish obviously needs some basic lessons on violation of private space and consent.

Also I have seen Neil and Aish many times bashing Sai. Maybe that’s their understanding of the character. But Ayesha has never badmouthed any character despite being the lead actress and that shows grace and maturity. And yes I judge the actors for their social media personality too.

This doesn’t take awat the fact that Neil is amazing as Virat. I respect him as an actor. Not so otherwise. My opinion. You are free to have yours too