Ghum Hain kisikey Pyaar Mein WU and Daily discussion thread no 27. - Page 105

Originally posted by: sukri

See she is controlling herself a lot to not fall for Virat. She doesn't want to think about him in a romantic way. But despite that she blushes for his shayari.

Like despite her walls, sometimes he ends up breaching it by his gestures.

Thats how we are supposed to look at that scene.

I guess, she is also taking acre of herself when she decides to not understand Virat's gestures.. Gestures of love/care two days after being thrown out of the house and being brought back cannot make a lady understand its love.. There a re a lot of unresolved issues between the two that needs to be talked about before these gestures.. Sai is a woman of principles and she also regards Virat's love for Pakhi.. She wants that love for herself ..yes...but not forcefully or because of a moment.. It has to be in confession, has to be felt.. No woman in a marriage like that , after being thrown out at night, denied food twice would suddenly start understanding romantic gestures..

Everyone including Virat have been very ignorant towards her trauma after being physically harassed, loosing the only parent , getting married in a loveless marriage, being a part of chauvinistic family being physically abused and being thrown out of the house ,occurrence all events sequentially without any breather... It takes time to heal from these traumas.. We have been very inconsiderate towards her feelings, her trauma, her distress in this all.. Virat apologised yes, she forgave yes, but that does not take away her trauma of living that moment.. Virat is guilty and his guilt doesn't even want to talk about what she would have felt during this all, he requests to not bring that discussion and this girl agrees. And we as women expect her to jump in his arms the moment he comes to her, just because he has developed feelings for her and is a good man? A man who told her, he would never give her marriage , that she deserved , for he promised another woman.. And yet Sai after all she is a human, a woman in love, first love at the age of 19, sometimes gives away to her feelings towards this man who is her world and also who she respects a lot. Just like today she was ready to be kissed.. did not lash at him, was anticipating....

If we have accepted and appreciated the difference between ROno and Virat, we need to the same for Sai and Emon as well...Sai and Virat both are more respective and tender towards each other than the original version..

Sai is an 18year old girl..man..what would she know about being in love, being kissed.? All she has felt about physical advances is something that is harassment and that as well has been a major part of her teenage life.. Sai needs to understand Virat's love, while Virat has till date unable to understand her jealousy towards Patralekha and Patralekha's tears when he sides with Sai, or talks logic.. SUch is an irony.Sai needs to understand the gestures of the same man, who few months back stood silent, in acceptance that his wife has brought him nothing but pain, him getting married to her has given him nothing but self inflicted pain..She is supposed to jump in the same man's arms, who stayed silent, when Pakhi looks at him while saying, "apni kareebi logo ka khyal main rakhna jaanti hun" while calling Sai selfish yet again.. Patralekha called him kareebi in front of Sai and Sai saw him , and he did not even flinch, and Sai has to understand he is falling for her?

I chose to back Sai in this regard, where she denies to understand Virat's feelings for her. That does not mean that I dont feel bad for Virat, he is a man who fell in love with a girl who he called a bacchi some 6-7 months back, who he promised a marriage of deal and no love, who he made believe that he is in love with someone else and could not , could not stop himself from falling in love..And in spite of the guilt of actions, insecurities, past mistakes, past relationship and also the age gap which made him feel embarrassed about being associated with a bacchi, he is trying his level to make her believe his love..Virat is doing everything that he is expected to do..I dont expect him to verse the words, I expect him to do what he is doing. But I dont expect Sai to understand, because there are issues, there is a deal , a promise of love to another woman, the woman who still is between them and who still gets to enter the room late at night, without knocking.. I chose to side with Sai and Virat both.. If Sai denies his advances even when she knows Virat loves her, I will not side with her then, if she is in love with him as well.. What there relationship stands at today, I understand them both ..

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I guess, she is also taking acre of herself when she decides to not understand Virat's gestures.. Gestures of love/care two days after being thrown out of the house and being brought back cannot make a lady understand its love.. There a re a lot of unresolved issues between the two that needs to be talked about before these gestures.. Sai is a woman of principles and she also regards Virat's love for Pakhi.. She wants that love for herself ..yes...but not forcefully or because of a moment.. It has to be in confession, has to be felt.. No woman in a marriage like that , after being thrown out at night, denied food twice would suddenly start understanding romantic gestures..

Everyone including Virat have been very ignorant towards her trauma after being physically harassed, loosing the only parent , getting married in a loveless marriage, being a part of chauvinistic family being physically abused and being thrown out of the house ,occurrence all events sequentially without any breather... It takes time to heal from these traumas.. We have been very inconsiderate towards her feelings, her trauma, her distress in this all.. Virat apologised yes, she forgave yes, but that does not take away her trauma of living that moment.. Virat is guilty and his guilt doesn't even want to talk about what she would have felt during this all, he requests to not bring that discussion and this girl agrees. And we as women expect her to jump in his arms the moment he comes to her, just because he has developed feelings for her and is a good man? A man who told her, he would never give her marriage , that she deserved , for he promised another woman.. And yet Sai after all she is a human, a woman in love, first love at the age of 19, sometimes gives away to her feelings towards this man who is her world and also who she respects a lot. Just like today she was ready to be kissed.. did not lash at him, was anticipating....

If we have accepted and appreciated the difference between ROno and Virat, we need to the same for Sai and Emon as well...Sai and Virat both are more respective and tender towards each other than the original version..

Sai is an 18year old girl..man..what would she know about being in love, being kissed.? All she has felt about physical advances is something that is harassment and that as well has been a major part of her teenage life.. Sai needs to understand Virat's love, while Virat has till date unable to understand her jealousy towards Patralekha and Patralekha's tears when he sides with Sai, or talks logic.. SUch is an irony.

If chose to back Sai in this regard, where she denies to understand Virat's feelings for her. That does not mean that I dont feel bad for Virat, he is a man who fell in love with a girl who he called a bacchi some 6-7 months back, who he promised a marriage of deal and no love, who he made believe that he is in love with someone else and could not , could not stop himself from falling in love..And in spite of the guilt of actions, insecurities, past mistakes, past relationship and also the age gap which made him feel embarrassed about being associated with a bacchi, he is trying his level to make her believe his love..Virat is doing everything that he is expected to do..I dont expect him to verse the words, I expect him to do what he is doing. But I dont expect Sai to understand, because there are issues, there is a deal , a promise of love to another woman, the woman who still is between them and who still gets to enter the room late at night, without knocking.. I chose to side with Sai and Virat both.. If Sai denies his advances even when she knows Virat loves her, I will not side with her then, if she is in love with him as well.. What there relationship stands at today, I understand them both ..

So then what would Sai call all his actions to her; his tears; his sadness; his insistence that she stay; he lets her rest his hand on her knee when feeding him and she does not even question herself that her hands were on his knee; What would she call his flirting; his advances; his smiles; the way he looks at her? She smiles at all his praise; or blushes; and jokes with him; can she not see that her rishta with him is so different to his rishta with Pakhi. When has she seen him go to Pakhi? It is Pakhi that comes to Viru. If Viru really cared would he not go to Pakhi?

He tries his best to do whatever he can for her; his biggest error in judgement was not trusting her when it came to Devi BUT he has repented for it everyday since. IRL no one would go back to their abuser so if that is domestic abuse then why even show that Sai had a place for him in her heart; that she was affected by him; that she went back when he was shot; do victims go back to their abusers regardless of what happens to them? NO - they break ALL TIES and never look back. HE called her HIS FAMILY; so deal walli shaadi IMO ended the day he shed tears for her and said "YOU ARE MY FAMILY, Sai"; if she was just his repsonsibility, there would have been NO TEARS; there would have been a bit of anger and harshness and a "YOU ARE MY RESPONSIBILITY".

She might be 18 but she is a VERY mature 18. She WANTS Viru for her own because she is tied to him so OBVIOUSLY even though she does remember the promise, she still resents Pakhi. Resents her to her soul. Otherwise, she would not be this indignant; not that Pakhi's behaviour is excusable BUT Sai is not happy that HER VIRU is stuck in a promise to some other woman. HER VIRAT; HERS.

Originally posted by: Stardust91

So then what would Sai call all his actions to her; his tears; his sadness; his insistence that she stay; he lets her rest his hand on her knee when feeding him and she does not even question herself that her hands were on his knee; What would she call his flirting; his advances; his smiles; the way he looks at her? She smiles at all his praise; or blushes; and jokes with him; can she not see that her rishta with him is so different to his rishta with Pakhi. When has she seen him go to Pakhi? It is Pakhi that comes to Viru. If Viru really cared would he not go to Pakhi?

He tries his best to do whatever he can for her; his biggest error in judgement was not trusting her when it came to Devi BUT he has repented for it everyday since. IRL no one would go back to their abuser so if that is domestic abuse then why even show that Sai had a place for him in her heart; that she was affected by him; that she went back when he was shot; do victims go back to their abusers regardless of what happens to them? NO - they break ALL TIES and never look back. HE called her HIS FAMILY; so deal walli shaadi IMO ended the day he shed tears for her and said "YOU ARE MY FAMILY, Sai"; if she was just his repsonsibility, there would have been NO TEARS; there would have been a bit of anger and harshness and a "YOU ARE MY RESPONSIBILITY".

She might be 18 but she is a VERY mature 18. She WANTS Viru for her own because she is tied to him so OBVIOUSLY even though she does remember the promise, she still resents Pakhi. Resents her to her soul. Otherwise, she would not be this indignant; not that Pakhi's behaviour is excusable BUT Sai is not happy that HER VIRU is stuck in a promise to some other woman. HER VIRAT; HERS.

yes when did I deny that ? She is jealous , visibly jealous..But relationships that starts with a deal with words of no love, need some assurance. And when did I say he doesnt do his best ..EVen she does his best..They both are doing it.. But they both have their reservations.. And I am willing to accept that.. Just like I am okay with Virat not understanding Pakhi's jealousy towards Sai and Sai's jealousy towards Pakhi, I am okay understanding Sai's reservations towards a man who threw her out three-four days bak , called hee mentally ill, is still reeling in guild and now showing some gestures that are romantic.. But like I said , the days she has been through and the way relationship started, with the third wheel always being there between them...Its not like she has not ventured towards that feeling where she believes he loves her, but she is reminded about the vaada and thinks she is overthinking. Also she does not resent Patralekha, wrong word to be used for Sai, who called her in , in a family picture when no one bothered. Patralekha who she saw with emotions when she met her the first time at the hospital. Who she applied with colors with love on their first holi... Who she explained the meaning of parents and their existence when she saw how she is prioritizing her husband over her parents.. A person in resentment wont do that.. Is she jealous? Yes..Has always been , even when she was not married to Virat.. Is she insecure ? Ofcourse she is.. Does she resents Patralekha ? NO. She just gives back what she gets..

Also when I bring her age, I dont question her maturity, I question her exposure to romantic relationships.. Her exposure to physical aspects of it, her exposure to hormonal feelings..her exposure to gud gudi..Going by her character she might as well not have had a phone romance..Also keeping in mind, the harassment that she went through in the name of love in her teens, would not have given her any exposure to this giddiness at all.. Fortunately and unfortunately Virat would be the man, she would feel all this for and its devastating that , that man is in love with someone else..

Like I said she is protecting herself and also could not stop herself from enjoying the looks and words of love and assurance from him.. Give the couple time.... Virat knows he is in love, Sai is yet to know her part of feelings, to understand his.. About having her hand on his knees, it was more of a comfort in the relationship than being flirty.. No its not easy for her to see the rishta being different with Patralekha, because the same lady until 4 days back had all the rights to call her gold digger, selfish and what not and Sai was called out by her husband for showing her the mirror.. Reason could be anything, but it happened.. Also today probably it was the first time where he stopped her with haq to be in the same room, where he and Pakhi had to have some personal talk.. A wife who sees her husband going out, or leaving him in the room with someone who she knows he is love with , to have their personal talk , which is a frequent occurrence in this household..No she does not know what relationship they share.... She has witnessed, Virat not denying Patralekha , when she asked him to give her clothes to get it packed in her bag..She has witnessed that aspect of their relationship as well..She sees a husband who never calls his bhabhi out for entering his room without knocking.. Even if my husband asks me to pack his clothes in his bag and next days says yes to his ex for wanting to pack clothes in her bag, I would not feel great about that.

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

yes when did I deny that ? She is jealous , visibly jealous..But relationships that starts with a deal with words of no love, need some assurance. And when did I say he doesnt do his best ..EVen she does his best..They both are doing it.. But they both have their reservations.. And I am willing to accept that.. Just like I am okay with Virat not understanding Pakhi's jealousy towards Sai and Sai's jealousy towards Pakhi, I am okay understanding Sai's reservations towards a man who threw her out three-four days bak , called hee mentally ill, is still reeling in guild and now showing some gestures that are romantic.. But like I said , the days she has been through and the way relationship started, with the third wheel always being there between them...Its not like she has not ventured towards that feeling where she believes he loves her, but she is reminded about the vaada and thinks she is overthinking. Also she does not resent Patralekha, wrong word to be used for Sai, who called her in , in a family picture when no one bothered. Patralekha who she saw with emotions when she met her the first time at the hospital. Who she applied with colors with love on their first holi... Who she explained the meaning of parents and their existence when she saw how she is prioritizing her husband over her parents.. A person in resentment wont do that.. Is she jealous? Yes..Has always been , even when she was not married to Virat.. Is she insecure ? Ofcourse she is.. Does she resents Patralekha ? NO. She just gives back what she gets..

Also when I bring her age, I dont question her maturity, I question her exposure to romantic relationships.. Her exposure to physical aspects of it, her exposure to hormonal feelings..her exposure to gud gudi..Going by her character she might as well not have had a phone romance..Also keeping in mind, the harassment that she went through in the name of love in her teens, would not have given her any exposure to this giddiness at all.. Fortunately and unfortunately Virat would be the man, she would feel all this for and its devastating that , that man is in love with someone else..

Like I said she is protecting herself and also could not stop herself from enjoying the looks and words of love and assurance from him.. Give the couple time.... Virat knows he is in love, Sai is yet to know her part of feelings, to understand his.. About having her hand on his knees, it was more of a comfort in the relationship than being flirty.. No its not easy for her to see the rishta being different with Patralekha, because the same lady until 4 days back had all the rights to call her gold digger, selfish and what not and Sai was called out by her husband for showing her the mirror.. Reason could be anything, but it happened.. Also today probably it was the first time where he stopped her with haq to be in the same room, where he and Pakhi had to have some personal talk.. A wife who sees her husband going out, or leaving him in the room with someone who she knows he is love with , to have their personal talk , which is a frequent occurrence in this household..No she does not know what relationship they share.... She has witnessed, Virat not denying Patralekha , when she asked him to give her clothes to get it packed in her bag..She has witnessed that aspect of their relationship as well..She sees a husband who never calls his bhabhi out for entering his room without knocking.. Even if my husband asks me to pack his clothes in his bag and next days says yes to his ex for wanting to pack clothes in her bag, I would not feel great about that.

It seems we both have our own POVs; better to agree to disagree because I cannot write long essays on what I think of Sai's behaviour; your response makes it seem like I am anti- Sai which I am definitely NOT so it is better that I keep my words and opinions to myself.

Originally posted by: Stardust91

It seems we both have our own POVs; better to agree to disagree because I cannot write long essays on what I think of Sai's behaviour; your response makes it seem like I am anti- Sai which I am definitely NOT so it is better that I keep my words and opinions to myself.

No , I dont think you are anti-Sai.. My response simply meant what I feel and I wanted you to see, that very angle which I felt you might have missed.. Thats it..

However I dont like being called out /mocked for analysing the characters , my analysis being referred to "long essays".. Thats incorrect. I am NOT writing long essays, just pointing out somethings that I notice and I feel about in the show.. and I dont go with it usually, because its taxing to type so much on my mobile.. And frankly today I had some time off..

Would not like it to be called long essays, because I am NOT writing essays.. Sorry you got that wrong..

Also opinions are to be expressed, forums are meant for that.. If by any means my post made it seem it like that, I am extremely sorry for coming across like that.. We can agree to disagree and keep posting what we think and feel about the characters...

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

No , I dont think you are anti-Sai.. My response simply meant what I feel and I wanted you to see, that very angle which I felt you might have missed.. Thats it..

However I dont like being called out /mocked for analysing the characters , my analysis being referred to "long essays".. Thats incorrect. I am NOT writing long essays, just pointing out somethings that I notice and I feel about in the show.. and I dont go with it usually, because its taxing to type so much on my mobile.. And frankly today I had some time off..

Would not like it to be called long essays, because I am NOT writing essays.. Sorry you got that wrong..

Also opinions are to be expressed, forums are meant for that.. If by any means my post made it seem it like that, I am extremely sorry for coming across like that.. We can agree to disagree and keep posting what we think and feel about the characters...

Firstly, I did not call your response a LONG ESSAY; i said I cannot WRITE a long essay on my opinion of Sai to explain my POV because I do not have the time and it would take me A LONG ESSAY to explain myself. It would definitely take me a LONG ESSAY TO explain my view on Viru; i know that much.

WHATEVER i said was for me, myself and I. Not for you; you can keep explaining and writing whatever you wish. I also do not like being called out for typing something that has been misconstrued and misunderstood as being mocking. I was not mocking anyone just stating that I really don't have the will to explain myself of my opinion at this point in time. However, i do not want to cause a fight or create an environment where I do not want to visit so I will try and avoid interacting for the sake of myself because I do not wish to receive a PM from the mods saying I have mocked members. So, i apologise for whatever misunderstanding and henceforth will keep a distance.

Whatever you have written is your perspective; but that is exactly what it is a perspective; not something I have missed but what you feel you have interpreted.

Anyways, don't want to get into this.

Originally posted by: Stardust91

Firstly, I did not call your response a LONG ESSAY; i said I cannot WRITE a long essay on my opinion of Sai to explain my POV because I do not have the time and it would take me A LONG ESSAY to explain myself. It would definitely take me a LONG ESSAY TO explain my view on Viru; i know that much.

WHATEVER i said was for me, myself and I. Not for you; you can keep explaining and writing whatever you wish. I also do not like being called out for typing something that has been misconstrued and misunderstood as being mocking. I was not mocking anyone just stating that I really don't have the will to explain myself of my opinion at this point in time. However, i do not want to cause a fight or create an environment where I do not want to visit so I will try and avoid interacting for the sake of myself because I do not wish to receive a PM from the mods saying I have mocked members. So, i apologise for whatever misunderstanding and henceforth will keep a distance.

Whatever you have written is your perspective; but that is exactly what it is a perspective; not something I have missed but what you feel you have interpreted.

Anyways, don't want to get into this.

Same here..

I hope you don't construe it at as an argument from my end.. That was not the intention.. If you did , I apologise.. I would hate someone to have hard feelings or bitter taste for this forum because of something I wrote.. I also apologise for misunderstanding what you wanted to say... We tend to make mistakes.. Even you assumed that I think you are anti-Sai..which I did not.. And I believed, you are pointing out at my long post, by saying you cant write such posts..

But I we are the same page, when you say you dont want to get into this..I want the same but not with bitter feelings.. though.. Peace !!🤗

Both characters are flawed. For me, I love to watch such characters. For most of us. If both were perfect, a daily soap would be very boring.

For every point raised against Virat, there can be and there is a point raised against Sai. Hopefully, we're all in it to watch the journey of these two extremely different personalities, with similar values and priorities. Maybe both will grow together, maybe they will not. i have not watched the regional series, and I don't want to spoil my viewing experience by watching them.

I love reading the analysis of the forum members here, because they bring out the beauty of these characters. And give us different perspectives.

Originally posted by: RainFire125

confession is still far away right??? I have deliberately forgotten KD bec of all the in between torture of playing with the characters of the Leads

Yeah, we have time for confession. It just came up in our conversation so we spoke about the next track and how some of us don't want to watch if they poan to bring that track.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Quicky OS ☺️

They would have proceeded with next step and then didi would have come to see the deed .

She would be screaming viaraat viraaat and the two would not even respond in their throes of passion. So she screams even louder that ghar ke bade will come and pull her out and directly send her to an asylum or her parents house.

deed done, didi gone! 🤣

Didi tab bhi nahi jayegi shaayad, wait karegi or will come back the next morning by the looks of it 🤦‍♀️.