Is it something to only feel proud of? - Page 2

Originally posted by: cheekukabeej

Umm. I don't know how much I can contribute. I watched the episode but I started late so missed that scene😆

But I can imagine her saying this proudly.

In ITV female leads apologies:

1. Apologise when they are right.

Or

2. Do not apologise when they are wrong.😆

1. Apologises to people around.

2. Not the one who deserves it the most.😆

It's just how female leads are.😆

Last night while watching Ghum, I was talking to my mother about Imlie. She was telling me about the wrongs of the cheated woman and I told her it is to make the actual wrongs done to her look trivial in comparison and to pave way for the leads to unite happily. (I was reminded of Mauli. Even though Drashti is a big name and they tried to whitewash her character but they never demeaned Mauli to uplift her character. I just loved them for this.) Just then I told her that Virat apologised to Sai for what he did but Sai didn't. This is how it is. One wrong of a person is suppressed under the wrong of another person.

Even though I love Sai but I know she was wrong there. I was hoping for her to apologise even though I knew she won't😆

Did I make sense at all

P.S. this is not a bashing post. Please don't get me wrong😭😆

OMG! You have summarised ITV FL so well. Bravo 👏

Ok. So Imlie is an even bigger crap than I thought 😆.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Just wanted to add something else.

There can be no two opinions that Sai should acknowledge that she was wrong in hiding her intentions (DevKit marriage) to Virat and that her actions hurt him.

👍🏼

But what about her actions that are impulsive, but done with Virat's knowledge? How will Virat's reactions be in the future (right now he is being bulldozed due to his guilt 🤣). There are two possibilities:-

This is something that I have been thinking about. You are good at it you know?

1) It bothers him. Then this will continue to be a point of conflict for them. Until they find a middle ground. Communicate better. Sai learns to let go of her instinct of going it all alone, Virat learns effective (and healthy) ways to temper her impulsive instincts.

👏

2) He accepts that his wife will always be a little crazy😉 and lets her have her way with most of her schemes since they all come from good intentions anyway. So just as it is upto Sai to either accept/not accept Virat's mistakes and flaws, it is upto Virat if he is okay with Sai's impulsiveness.

👏 Exactly how it works many times in real life too dear ❤.

So which Virat can we expect in the future?

At the moment I am expecting no 1, the next time Sai makes a mistake 😉. Just because he is apologetic and guilty now doesn't mean that he is going to be this calm/understanding husband the next time 🤣. He will be the same old Virat who will burst out, who will react.

What I want to see is the combination of 1 and 2 to be achieved in their future 😊. They will have to put in a lot of efforts and the rest will happen naturally. They will act as required as per the situation they are in.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

OMG! You have summarised ITV FL so well. Bravo 👏

Ok. So Imlie is an even bigger crap than I thought 😆.

Hehehe. No comments🤣

Originally posted by: Nja91

Sai is not proud of hiding the facts from Virat, she is proud that she could help 2 people in love be together without the shackles of bk gang. She had to hide things due to circumstances (as harebrained as the plot was, we just have to take it!) She is not apologizing for it now because Virats acts of kicking her out unfortunately have overshadowed her mistakes so much that i honestly feel its become inconsequential. She did learn her lesson- we know that she 100% regrets that she hid things from him. Apologizing for ones mistakes is good practice but it does not mean that if one doesn't verbally say sorry, they dont feel apologetic about how things happened or havent learnt their lesson. Virat himself looks proud and happy that Sai got devkit married. When she said to CN peeps- bhul gaye, maine sab ke khilaaf jakar devi tai ki shaadi karvaai- virat himself gives her a proud look.

While Sai will still remain a little impulsive, stubborn and ziddi, her letting virat know of devkit lunch plan is a step in mutually planning something rather than doing it behind his back. Yes, she needed to convince him to agree to her plan but at the end of the day he did give in and eventually as evidenced by his reaction innthe end if the episode, he is excited about devkit rasam too. this time her potentially "dangerous" plan has Virats approval and isnt all solo like devkit shaadi or amey incident.

Sai does understand if things are explained correctly. Aai has cracked that. She has many reasons for being stubborn/independent/reckless in her attitude- shes a single child who had to raise herself in her dads absence. So her core personality is not going to change. But over time Sairat will understand n accept each others not so desirable traits too or learn to handle it.

Theres always gonna be room for better communication between Sairat or any couple for that matter. But i dont think that Sai hesitates to apologize to people or Virat specifically either. When she realizes her mistake, she repents, berates herself and tries to rectify it. Sometimes she has apologized in words and sometimes she has shown in her actions that she regrets her actions and wants to bury the hatchet and move on. In a spousal relationship, every single thing does not need to be verbalized, certain things are nonverbal communication too. She does not take him for granted but she does sonetimes take a few liberties with him coz she can afford to because he is her husband. Virat is the same way.He only blows his fuse with her. He doesn't lose his cool with anyone the way he does with Sai, why? Coz he can "afford" to. But in a spousal relationship these things happen. As long as they get past it and understand each others pov- thats all that matters in the overall scheme of things. This is not a competition of who said how many sorry's. Its a marriage, not mathematics , not an algebraic equation where LHS = RHS needs to be achieved!

Interesting post. Agree to all your points except the DevKit wedding. I actually am not particularly keen on her pondering about her mistakes in the DevKit wedding right now because her pain is too raw and she hasn't even decided if she wants to get back in Virat's life. This is her time to heal.

But unlike other mistakes, the hiding of DevKit marriage is too huge to be brushed under the carpet - or to expect Virat to accept without reservations. Even if Virat had not behaved as inhumanly as he did, the mistake was huge enough to cause a complete breakdown in their relationship. Do I expect her to apologise? Not really - it is not necessary to say sorry. All I want is for her to acknowledge that her actions hurt Virat a lot and reassure him that it won't happen again. I know that she felt guilty about hiding it from him - but the end result is that she went ahead with the plan anyway. Again, all this is only if she has decided to get back in his life. If she wants to break up (which she has every right to do), then all these will be irrelevant.

All her other mistakes are not very problematic. Just as she accepts Virat's not--so-likeable sides, he too will learn to accept hers - the key is that they understand each other.

That's why I have mentioned a few times that the nok jhok scenes are fine but they need some serious discussions also. I wish both discussed how and why the wedding happened in a hurry. Either Sai explains why she did that or Virat himself tells het that she should have tried to talk to him before taking that step.

Also as much as I am liking the sweet romance and how comfy they are with each other, it also bothering me. Before she was ousted, they only had the holi sequence where both were intimate but before that even hand holding was awkward for them. So now that both just came out from a huge MU and that they are not much used to intimacy I sometimes fail to understand their comfort level. 😕

Fortunately for Sai whatever she did in Amey issue and Devkit matter,resulted in positive way but it won’t be that easy always. So Sai should learn to take time,process her thoughts,discuss with Virat and Aswini and then proceed further.

That is why her pride at the moment is the outcome of her success which she has taken for granted.

Sai does not fear obstacles but she tends to become over confident which may harm her in future.

I feel it is something to do with her age also. When she gets older she will realise hopefully ..life is not that simple to live and challenges taken up need not always succeed.

Very well put!

This was a discussion that happened post the entire fiasco. Where most agreed that both had been wrong in their stance, but the gravity of actions lay more on Virat. Hence, at that point rest was overshadowed. It is essential at some point things are sorted, Sai accepts her mistakes as well. But it looks like thats not happening, infact it seems more like she is boasting about it all around.🤷‍♀️

Hmmm...interesting view. I didn't find it wrong as she was saying in the context she reunited two lovers.

The way I viewed it, she went against everyone and managed to bring back tai's happiness. The sense of achievement is surely there. As for not telling virat anything, virat only told he doesn't want to discuss that incident and since his behaviour eclipsed her by far, it feels insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

I found it as a progress from sai side as she discussed and is planning everything with him this time. I actually found the way she convinced him very couplish. She knows how to convince her husband and virat allowed her because sai has the upper hand this one time.

I have said long back in one of your posts that I have serious issues with Sai's I know it all attitude and if she gets her way even through the wrong means...She thinks oh see like always I am as right again..Virat has been proven wrong in this track and she right and that helps her to gloat about being right yet again and since Virat is right now guilty for both hurting Sai and also not being the one to understand Devi Tai and her plights she won't be stopped much.. So when she comes up with such counter statements , maine karwayi thi na shaadi, it appears really problematic and toxic for the relationship. Virat would not be able to explain her things that she needs to understand. If you remember , I had said if she keeps succeeding and not feeling the repercussions of her doings, she would become a narcissist( in terms of some decisions in life) version of herself which is not now .. I have had issues with her behaviour and her know it all attitude. SHe has worked a lot on the way she behaves , but she needs to really have her repercussions to understand she is not always right. It just looked like she is manipulating Virat since he was not right and she turned out to be the right one in understanding Pulkit.

Virat's mistake here is more to do with his actions towards her and not his misunderstanding Pulkit.. And thats why one needs to understand , Anger is your worst enemy.

Sai is narcissistic, she can't help but gloat about everything she does, she never had anyone to correct her so she has this "I am no less than God" attitude