Mandaar and the Deshmukhs - Page 2

True for typical daily soap it will happen definitely mandar will come back but I will hate that literally.Deshmukh house is just ridiculous and for sure when mandar will be back he will be negative character.this show has been very different from other shows from beginning and I wish they keep it different without entry of mandaar or any strong villain.there were many shows in Sony which still manages to keep attached without any villain.really bored of this villain tracks,face change,memory loss,duplicate face wala character and female villains.Hope someday indian serials move on from this kind of negativity and still manage to create goo quality drama.i really liked raghab Pallavi's marriage sequence it was really different, they acted so good and sensibly their characters were portrayed. Hope writers and makers keep things same. I really like one direction drama and hate 3rd party entry.generally 8 stop watching shows or quit for some time when they start showing this kind of tracks

Originally posted by: natkhat_angel

If you don't mind me asking - what details of his supposed death has been given? Did they have an arranged marriage?

If VD feels guilty about Mandaar's death, shouldn't he be more invested in getting Pallu married again? A lot like Aayi is. like, I can genuinely see that she loves Pallavi as her own, although if Mandaar does come back, she might show some different emotions. But with VD, I don't understand his stance.

Is he an angry father who is rightfully upset that Pallavi went against his wishes and married Raghav? Or is he an upset father-in-law who cannot accept the fact that his son's widow is now remarried?

Or is he an astute businessman who is worried about the repercussions this wedding will have on his business?

So details about Maandar's death has been kept vague. Pallavi has filed a case to investigate his death, but nothing has come out of it. Pallavi and Maandar did have an arranged marriage. Pallavi like him and his family, so she agreed to it. And Maandar died on the day of their wedding. To be honest, not much else is known about Maandar and his relationship with the Deshmukhs or Pallavi and it has been kept like that on purpose.

Another thing is that Pallavi was only married to Maandar approximately 2 years ago and had been living with the Deshmukhs since then. He is 24 now and she married Maandar after her graduation, so it's only been 2 years. Plus she took over the saree business after Maandar's death and when she took it over, it was already in debt and losses, so she has been trying to.manage it without telling VD for 2 years.

So VD is just angry that Pallavi had been lying to him and doesn't believe her anymore. He told her from the beginning to stay away from RR and she didn't listen. And after finding out the business is in a loss and she hid it from him, he doesn't trust her anymore. He was not opposed to her getting remarried if it was with a respectable family. But he doesn't like RR and he thinks Pallavi has been having an affair with him.

Originally posted by: natkhat_angel

If you don't mind me asking - what details of his supposed death has been given? Did they have an arranged marriage?

If VD feels guilty about Mandaar's death, shouldn't he be more invested in getting Pallu married again? A lot like Aayi is. like, I can genuinely see that she loves Pallavi as her own, although if Mandaar does come back, she might show some different emotions. But with VD, I don't understand his stance.

Is he an angry father who is rightfully upset that Pallavi went against his wishes and married Raghav? Or is he an upset father-in-law who cannot accept the fact that his son's widow is now remarried?

Or is he an astute businessman who is worried about the repercussions this wedding will have on his business?

Pallavi and Mandaar had an arranged marriage. Their courtship period mainly involved video calls and texts as Pallavi was in Kolhapur while Mandaar in Hyderabad. Pallavi has fond memories of him, so we can assume that he was a good guy and probably a good friend to her. Mandaar went out for some work on their wedding night and never returned, but his body was never found.

In one of the first episodes, VD talks about how he doesn't think anyone else would love Pallavi as much as they do. @bold I think he's a bit of both. He claims to love Pallavi as his daughter, or in his own words "humara beta", but his hypocrisy is very evident the way he clearly got upset the first time Raghav followed Pallavi to her room to help her with her blouse. Now you could say that it's probably because he had a bad impression of Raghav with the MMS fiasco, still the way he reacted to it was weird, like he expects the bahu of the house to always keep to the rules.

VD may love Pallavi and want the best for her, but he wants it to happen according to his terms. His "Pallavi is our daughter" narrative falls flat because he clearly doesn't hold her to the same standards as Amrutha and is ready to drop her the minute an outsider hurls accusations at her in fear of his family's izzat.

The reason I said it's a bit of both is, VD seems like he's replaced his son with his son's widow and is projecting the dreams he had on him to her. It's only natural that he doesn't take the idea of her getting remarried and moving away from them and his son's memories lightly. It only gets worse now that Pallavi is linked to someone he doesn't like. But then again, I don't think VD would have acted any different if Pallavi had indeed been in love and wanted to marry Raghav. VD is just not the kind of a man who would let the women of his house do as they please, regardless of him "embracing" modern ideas.

Your third option is definitely not a concern here. He doesn't even acknowledge the hard work Pallavi puts into that stupid shop, so at this point, he isn't bothered about that. But he will be in for a rude awakening when he realises that none of his useless family members can run the shop like Pallavi used to do.

Originally posted by: sankalpam

Pallavi and Mandaar had an arranged marriage. Their courtship period mainly involved video calls and texts as Pallavi was in Kolhapur while Mandaar in Hyderabad. Pallavi has fond memories of him, so we can assume that he was a good guy and probably a good friend to her. Mandaar went out for some work on their wedding night and never returned, but his body was never found.

In one of the first episodes, VD talks about how he doesn't think anyone else would love Pallavi as much as they do. @bold I think he's a bit of both. He claims to love Pallavi as his daughter, or in his own words "humara beta", but his hypocrisy is very evident the way he clearly got upset the first time Raghav followed Pallavi to her room to help her with her blouse. Now you could say that it's probably because he had a bad impression of Raghav with the MMS fiasco, still the way he reacted to it was weird, like he expects the bahu of the house to always keep to the rules.

VD may love Pallavi and want the best for her, but he wants it to happen according to his terms. His "Pallavi is our daughter" narrative falls flat because he clearly doesn't hold her to the same standards as Amrutha and is ready to drop her the minute an outsider girls accusations at her in fear of his family's izzat.

The reason I said it's a bit of both is, VD seems like he's replaced his son with his son's widow and is projecting the dreams he had on him to her. It's only natural that he doesn't take the idea of her getting remarried and moving away from them and his son's memories lightly. It only gets worse now that Pallavi is linked to someone he doesn't like. But then again, I don't think VD would have acted any different if Pallavi had indeed been in love and wanted to marry Raghav. VD is just not the kind of a man who would let the women of his house do as they please, regardless of him "embracing" modern ideas.

Your third option is definitely not a concern here. He doesn't even acknowledge the hard work Pallavi puts into that stupid shop, so at this point, he isn't bothered about that. But he will be in for a rude awakening when he realises that none of his useless family members can run the shop like Pallavi used to do.

That is exactly what I wanted to discuss. It's fine calling him Sanki but what is his main objection is what confuses me.

I had a love marriage myself and I had to persuade my parents for years before they actually relented and got us married, so I would understand if as a father he doesn't feel like RR deserves her or is unhappy with the alliance.

But if it's as a father-in-law which I am beginning to feel more and more nowadays seeing his attitude towards Pallavi, it would be such a shock for her, considering the fact that she sees him as her father.

Another thing is that on SP, elders are never punished. Be is SNS, GHKKPM or YRKKH. So, rest assured, BWA will go unpunished for the actual CRIME she committed, while Pallavi was thrown out for a misunderstanding. It annoys the crap out of me. Raghav may be very wrong, a brute for forcing Pallavi into the wedding, but at least no one will be able to absolve him of it, while Amrutha and BWA are never remanded for their vile actions by the ever-so-pious VD.

@Bold : Honestly took the words out of my mouth.

I have a feeling that Mandaar might come back - and if he does, I would prefer the real Mandaar instead of a fake one. Maybe then VD and the Deshmukh clan's real feelings regarding Pallu would come out and she would actually be able to move on in life- with or without Raghav.

Originally posted by: sas79

So details about Maandar's death has been kept vague. Pallavi has filed a case to investigate his death, but nothing has come out of it. Pallavi and Maandar did have an arranged marriage. Pallavi like him and his family, so she agreed to it. And Maandar died on the day of their wedding. To be honest, not much else is known about Maandar and his relationship with the Deshmukhs or Pallavi and it has been kept like that on purpose.

Another thing is that Pallavi was only married to Maandar approximately 2 years ago and had been living with the Deshmukhs since then. He is 24 now and she married Maandar after her graduation, so it's only been 2 years. Plus she took over the saree business after Maandar's death and when she took it over, it was already in debt and losses, so she has been trying to.manage it without telling VD for 2 years.

So VD is just angry that Pallavi had been lying to him and doesn't believe her anymore. He told her from the beginning to stay away from RR and she didn't listen. And after finding out the business is in a loss and she hid it from him, he doesn't trust her anymore. He was not opposed to her getting remarried if it was with a respectable family. But he doesn't like RR and he thinks Pallavi has been having an affair with him.

What exactly is an affair? He thinks they are in a relationship and he doesn't like the guy. Been there, done that. But even when my father and I weren't talking to each other for months, never did he threaten to throw me out of the house. Someone who professes to love Pallavi like his own son, would have had many qualms about throwing his daughter out on the streets. Be pissed off, don't talk to her, shout at her, cajole her, that I can understand.

But throwing someone out is not something a real father would or rather should do. Especially when Amrutha was not even given a small quanta of that punishment for actually getting PREGNANT with a guy's baby, aborting it, and then lying about it. Like seriously, look at the degree of difference in those two "mistakes" and the way they were handled.

Originally posted by: natkhat_angel

That is exactly what I wanted to discuss. It's fine calling him Sanki but what is his main objection is what confuses me.

I had a love marriage myself and I had to persuade my parents for years before they actually relented and got us married, so I would understand if as a father he doesn't feel like RR deserves her or is unhappy with the alliance.

But if it's as a father-in-law which I am beginning to feel more and more nowadays seeing his attitude towards Pallavi, it would be such a shock for her, considering the fact that she sees him as her father.

Another thing is that on SP, elders are never punished. Be is SNS, GHKKPM or YRKKH. So, rest assured, BWA will go unpunished for the actual CRIME she committed, while Pallavi was thrown out for a misunderstanding. It annoys the crap out of me. Raghav may be very wrong, a brute for forcing Pallavi into the wedding, but at least no one will be able to absolve him of it, while Amrutha and BWA are never remanded for their vile actions by the ever-so-pious VD.

@Bold : Honestly took the words out of my mouth.

I have a feeling that Mandaar might come back - and if he does, I would prefer the real Mandaar instead of a fake one. Maybe then VD and the Deshmukh clan's real feelings regarding Pallu would come out and she would actually be able to move on in life- with or without Raghav.

This is why I said I have mixed feelings about VD's reaction to Pallavi and Raghav. I don't mean that VD wants Pallavi to forever remain Mandaar's widow. He doesn't object Aai's plans to look for proposals for Pallu, but neither shares her enthusiasm nor takes her urgency seriously. His confidence that Pallavi would be treated better in their house and his indifference to Aai's concerns seem very delusional and naive to me. I'm sure eventually he wants her to settle down, but with someone whom he approves of and RR since beginning has only irked him.

Though I think that his main objection is to RR himself, a man whom he thinks is disgusting and vile, the he way went about confronting RR and tried to prevent Pallavi from meeting him seemed very authoritarian to me. It might be because we as the audience can objectively gauge the situation and see it as a father-in-law controlling a daughter-in-law and interfering with her freedom to talk with whomever she wants as an adult, rather than how VD would feel–protecting his daughter from a creep. Also, what infuriated him the most was that Pallavi kept seeing RR despite his warnings. This makes me believe that VD wouldn't really give in to Pallavi's wishes unless it is approved him by first unlike Aai.

@bold. Of course, I'm betting that VD would be the first who would want Pallavi back.

Edit. @blue Irrespective of Star Plus advocating for progressive thought, they wouldn't dare to go against certain things. And going against elders is definitely a no-no. BWA will probably get away with a slap on the wrist, but not someone like VD or Amma. They may not have done despicable things like BWA, but they still do things for which they should be called out. When elders except villains like BWA do questionable acts, those are brushed off as "parental love" or "impulsive act, nothing serious".