Why all blame on Ragav? - Page 12

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Yup. Agree with everything except the last line..😆

Its possible that BWA does the big dhamaka on the wedding day about the widow truth. Raghav obviously wont care.. he might even somewhat start admiring her, as opposed to being completely neutral as he is now..

What I meant was that so far he has had a reason or found a reason to fight with her. Later on, if she ignores him that will be his reason. 😆

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

If you come to think about it, Raghav's not that difficult to gauge.. I dont know if falling in love will screw up his brain but so far what I feel that his unhinged behaviour, the contradictions and complications in his personality/behaviour is because he had no family as an anchor, no accoubtability .. Eversince he got the assurance from his amma that they will move into his house, he has calmed down and that is part of the reason that hate has taken a backseat.. At this point, Pallavi doesnt matter to him, nor does any of the hate or bitterness associated with her.. She is just a means of getting his family back and initially for his family's sake he will try to make it work.. but I guess gradually as he comes to know her better he will start liking her..and as the MU's clear up he will fall for her.. then the major blood donation revelation will happen at some point too.. Raghav's graph I can somewhat understand.. But I am not sure how Pallavi's character arc is gonna shape up post marriage.. I dint quite like her idea of how she thinks this marriage is gonna work.. the whole idea of society givinf rights to wives and then controlling their husbands.. its just poor writing..

Pallavi is a poorly written character honestly. Apart from my sympathies for all that Raghav did with her, what is there in her to like her as a character. She has no arc. The dialogues written for her, have no meaning at all. She only talks, doesn't act on anything. Whether it's for good or for bad. They need to beef up her character. Give some more substance to it. Give more strength to her kindness, empower her self-respect. Then only, can we like the character. There is a lot more space for growth. And yes, work on her dialogues. They always make her look very lame. Like the dialogues don't suit her. They should give her more relevant lines.

As far as Raghav goes, he will get his family back. But will that be enough for him? I mean Pallavi will be staying in the house, he will be a part of his room, his house. So how long her presence will not affect him. He so confidently said, he will leave her alone? His family is his anchor, of course. But his unhinged behavior is a part of his personality and whenever he doesn't get something he wants, he acts out. And in Pallavi's case, his rules seem to change. He doesn't even listen to his Amma and sister.

Originally posted by: -INAAYAT-

You're so right here! These two characters have no idea what they actually want in their life or they haven't thought of it till now!😭

Raghav wants his Amma and sister in his house, fine. His Amma wants him to marry Pallavi, fine. He is trying every possible means to make her agree, and she finally caved in. Then, what after?😡

He really hasn't conceptualized marriage yet! He told Pallavi during the proposal scene, that marry me, main tumhara peecha chod dunga! How in the world will he leave her after getting married? Does he realise that the girl will live with him, in his house, in front of his face, possibly in his room the entire lifetime, once they get married? He really hasn't understood the gravity of the situation yet. Maybe it will hit him after the wedding or maybe not!😳

Pallavi on the other hand is equally clueless! Her life revolved around Deshmukh's and their sasta saree shop, but after her Baba threw her out, she is still busy taking saree orders! She desperately needs to come out of small world or may be take a break to the mountains or even Kolhapur maybe to actually know what she wants, but Raghav won't let it happen now!😔

Her giving in to the marriage is also sad, given that she could have easily went to Amma or Keerthi to tell them how Raghav had been coercing her into the marriage. Maybe Amma would have stopped Raghav then. But alas, she really wants to go all out for the Deshmukhs!🤪

This makes me realise how this show runs on a huge web of miscommunications and misunderstandings! Someone break the chain asap!

Pallavi has this martyr syndrome, and doesn't want to share her troubles. Thank goodness for Krishna or it would have been even worse. She would have gone into the marriage in total despair as opposed to the yoyo approach (forget for a moment whether or not that's achievable).

Milind is the uncle, the only function male in that house. Why does Pallavi have to sacrifice all this and suffer in silence? Why doesn't she tell the family and let them find a solution? Or at least if they know why she is forced to marry Raghav they will understand her intentions. Ugh.

Originally posted by: Viewpoint

Bold - I agree. She is all talks and no show. That's why I also said that in the confrontation scene, she spoke some really heavy words but she is so clueless as to what she's going to do to make those words come true.... Raghav on the other hand does what he says, he doesn't go yap yap yap. He will start and end it and just as quickly, move away from it. He's more stable in that sense. I cannot relate to pallavi at all...In the beginning I could, for a while only but now she comes across as weak and a poor planner and someone who cannot hold her ground. She was already a poor business woman, Raghav was not wrong here. All she does is carry everyone's burdens and refuses to share her problems. It's like the whole worlds problems are on her shoulders, which is quite annoying because honestly she can easily delegate. What is Kaku doing? What is mansi doing? And Aai and sanki? Why do all problems become about her? Krishna also told her that not all problems arise because of her.

I think we should cut her some slack here.. 😆Let's not forget that Raghav besides being shrewd,manipulative, cunning and someone who doesnt hesitate to resort to illegal or unfait means to get his job done.. he is also rich with a lot of money and muscle power to execute his plans.. he is resourceful with help from every quarter.. men to carry out his dirty work.. all he has to do is scheme and plot sitting in the comfortable sofa of his living room.. phone ghumaya, kaam ho gaya. Compare that to Pallavi.. one she is nowhere near as sharp or wicked as Raghav, resources ke naam pe Krishna lol no money or muscle power, no contacts with the mean and mightly.. in short she represents the typical struggling middle class.. all she has is her will power to not backdown.. she tries to put up a fight against Raghav by all fair means and mostly plays by the rule book.. so yes I think its not an even playing field and its unfair to compare Raghav and Pallavi in that sense..

Originally posted by: inlieu

Pallavi has this martyr syndrome, and doesn't want to share her troubles. Thank goodness for Krishna or it would have been even worse. She would have gone into the marriage in total despair as opposed to the yoyo approach (forget for a moment whether or not that's achievable).

Milind is the uncle, the only function male in that house. Why does Pallavi have to sacrifice all this and suffer in silence? Why doesn't she tell the family and let them find a solution? Or at least if they know why she is forced to marry Raghav they will understand her intentions. Ugh.

Agree to all that! She really has taken the responsibility of being the dead son's wife seriously or maybe she has abandonment issues considering her orphan status! The only reason that could explain why she's still clinging to the deshmukhs!😡

Also, the Deshmukhs have burdened her teeny-tiny shoulders with so much of heaps! She's really very naive and lacks the smartness and business acumen that Raghav already has! She cannot handle a business ever in her life!

The girl really leaves everything on others to decide for, first trashmukhs, now Raghav will join the league! Girl, buck up or may be leave Hyderabad! Go to Kolhapur, take a breather, decide for yourself for once!🤪

But nah, instead she has chosen the Raghav way, ab pagal hone ke liye ready ho jao! The boy is mad and will make her crazy too!

I hope that after the marriage Pallavi actually carries out whatever she speaks about. Until now she had things to worry about, her shop and Baba’s health etc and she was a regular middle class person who had picked a fight with a don. But now she’s said don’s wife, no longer a regular middle class person. (Also I did dislike the yo-yo dialogue .. there are enough abusive and manipulative husbands and wives in the world for anyone to know that the controlling partner is the one who wants to and can control the other. )I do want her to misuse(use) whatever power and influence she is gaining. She should get better dialogues now and take proper action, instead of resorting to childish games, because now the playing field is truly even.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

I think we should cut her some slack here.. 😆Let's not forget that Raghav besides being shrude, cunning and someone who doesnt hesitate to resort to illegal or unfait means to get his job done.. he is also rich with a lot of money and muscle power to execute his plans.. he is resourceful with help from every quarter.. men to carry out his dirty work.. all he has to do is scheme and plot sitting in the comfortable sofa of his living room.. phone ghumaya, kaam ho gaya. Compare that to Pallavi.. one she is nowhere near as sharp or wicked as Raghav, resources ke naam pe Krishna lol no money or muscle power, no contacts with the mean and mightly.. in short she represents the typical struggling middle class.. all she has is her will power to not backdown.. she tries to put up a fight against Raghav by all fair means and mostly plays by the rule book.. so yes I think its not an even playing field and its unfair to compare Raghav and Pallavi in that sense..

So true, here! Probably the only reason why I'm still rooting for Pallavi more than Raghav even though she's been disappointing lately!

The woman is nowhere a match to Raghav when it comes to shrewdness, smartness, or scheming abilities! Raghav is a devil's spawn! While she is a naivete! 😭

She also isn't in the position of any power unlike Raghav, neither is she stable economically, bas vo kachra saree shop hai voh bhi Sanki Rambo ka! 🤢

So, her giving in to Raghav's antics is a no-brainer! She can't do much to a man who's so freaking powerful, has many connections, plays with money and has a sinister mind!😡

Two people don't always have to be equals to fall in love! She's the perfect angel to his devil!😆

So yeah, imma always root for her, no matter what, especially after what Raghav did!😒

Originally posted by: libran90

Pallavi is a poorly written character honestly. Apart from my sympathies for all that Raghav did with her, what is there in her to like her as a character. She has no arc. The dialogues written for her, have no meaning at all. She only talks, doesn't act on anything. Whether it's for good or for bad. They need to beef up her character. Give some more substance to it. Give more strength to her kindness, empower her self-respect. Then only, can we like the character. There is a lot more space for growth. And yes, work on her dialogues. They always make her look very lame. Like the dialogues don't suit her. They should give her more relevant lines.

As far as Raghav goes, he will get his family back. But will that be enough for him? I mean Pallavi will be staying in the house, he will be a part of his room, his house. So how long her presence will not affect him. He so confidently said, he will leave her alone? His family is his anchor, of course. But his unhinged behavior is a part of his personality and whenever he doesn't get something he wants, he acts out. And in Pallavi's case, his rules seem to change. He doesn't even listen to his Amma and sister.

Pallavi's character maynot have the spice and X-factor as Raghav's because the innate contradictions that Raghav's character has, she doesnt but that doesnt make the character less interesting for me.. not everyone can be Raghav, have quirky lines in every other sentence. There are people who wear their heart on their sleeves and speak exactly what they have in their mind.. Her being ordinary is what makes her stand out for me.. and that's why I like them together because they are so contrasting.. People(including myself at times) say arey ye to bas garajti hai barasti nahi . Raghav is like comes, sees and conquers, sees through his plans.. Raghav don hai, AC kamre me bethe inspector ko phone lagata hai Nikhil ko raat bhar rakho jail me, kaam ho jata hai, Farhad Harish hain uska sara kaam karne.. Pallavi market se pesa lene phone karti hai.. bhaisaab Farhad ko bolke wo channel bhi band karwa dete hain.. Raghav ke paas sab kuch hai.. 100 admi, aur jesa usne kaha sheher ki police, lawyer sab uski pocket me.. Pallavi ke paas kya hai? Help ke naam pe Krishna😆Koi muqabla hi nahi hai.. Fir bhi wo lagi rehti hai. Haar nahi manti.. uska will power hi hai uske sath.. na family, na paisa, no connection.. Typical middle class admi jo roz life me struggle karta hai, ladta hai system ke khilaf.. Pallavi represents that middle class. And I must add here, something I have been wanting to say everytime I watch the episodes, is that Shivangi has a very fluent and clear diction which is very important for me.. how well you can say your lines.She emotes beautifully.. does full justice to the character within its limitations..

This may seem like a Pallavi/Shivangi appreciation post but I had to say it..

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Pallavi's character maynot have the spice and X-factor as Raghav's because the innate contradictions that Raghav's character has, she doesnt but that doesnt make the character less interesting for me.. not everyone can be Raghav, have quirky lines in every other sentence. There are people who wear their heart on their sleeves and speak exactly what they have in their mind.. Her being ordinary is what makes her stand out for me.. and that's why I like them together because they are so contrasting.. People(including myself at times) say arey ye to bas garajti hai barasti nahi . Raghav is like comes, sees and conquers, sees through his plans.. Raghav don hai, AC kamre me bethe inspector ko phone lagata hai Nikhil ko raat bhar rakho jail me, kaam ho jata hai, Farhad Harish hain uska sara kaam karne.. Pallavi market se pesa lene phone karti hai.. bhaisaab Farhad ko bolke wo channel bhi band karwa dete hain.. Raghav ke paas sab kuch hai.. 100 admi, aur jesa usne kaha sheher ki police, lawyer sab uski pocket me.. Pallavi ke paas kya hai? Help ke naam pe Krishna😆Koi muqabla hi nahi hai.. Fir bhi wo lagi rehti hai. Haar nahi manti.. uska will power hi hai uske sath.. na family, na paisa, no connection.. Typical middle class admi jo roz life me struggle karta hai, ladta hai system ke khilaf.. Pallavi represents that middle class. And I must add here, something I have been wanting to say everytime I watch the episodes, is that Shivangi has a very fluent and clear diction which is very important for me.. how well you can say your lines.She emotes beautifully.. does full justice to the character within its limitations..

This may seem like a Pallavi/Shivangi appreciation post but I had to say it..

I agree with your points. But mujhko hamesha lagta hai, that the CVs give extra bhaav to Raghav and not Pallavi. Kahin na kahin, ek off balance sa chala jaata hai mamla. They have kept her at par with obstinacy and her never-give-up attitude. But the dialogues are very very dull. Mere liye dialogues bahut impact chodte hai. Words have a way to touch the right nerve. So, it is important that the dialogues that are given to Pallavi and the tone she delivers are on point. For instance, when Raghav forced her with the 2000-rupee note ring, the reaction, dialogue, and tone were on point. It looked natural. Otherwise, sometimes it seems like recitation to me.

I am not asking for another Raghav. One is enough. Their chemistry is on-point of course. But yes, could improve the dialogues of Pallavi and the tone of delivery a little better.

Pallavi doesn't play dirty like Raghav . Her never ending sacrifices for the Deshmukhs get irritating sometimes , but other than that she is fine . Pallavi would have never hurt Raghavs family in the name of revenge like he did . She is a pure soul like that . Raghav is selfish , rich and can go to any extent to get what he wants , poor pallu isn't any of it . How can she win against that man ?