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Posted: 4 years ago
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Nice post.

"I am upset that Virat realised his mistake only after getting to know the truth, he should have realised that ousting two women was wrong much earlier. But since he is just a fictional character and I am an audience, I don't have anything more to think on this now, I can only wait to see how he behaves in the future.

Sai might also forgive and return to him, but I would want to see what he does in the future."


CVs can tackle this by having Virat-Ashwini emotional conversation. Ashwini should talk to Virat about the torture she has been enduring in the house. It will open his eyes and make him more empathetic. She should also call out Virat's tendency to be abusive when angry - pointing it out to be the patriarchal attitude he has imbibed from Ninad. She can relate her own experience being married to Ninad - how her self-respect was trampled upon - and to make him realize not to repeat that mistake with Sai. It is time Virat is shown the reality of his parent's marriage. And he will be a better person (and husband) for it.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

I wrote this as a reply to one of the posts, but decided to post as a new post than a reply.


The post was if I have forgiven Virat or not after yesterday's episode. Below is my answer. The reason for this post is to say how am I feeling and what am I expecting from the characters as an audience.


To answer the question whether I have forgiven him or not "Who am I to forgive Virat?"

If the question is if I am still upset with Virat, then please do read the below.


As an audience, I was upset with the character but I am not as upset as I was, since days have passed by and I am just an audience. I am still upset with him, I have written what I am feeling or have been feeling for a long time now.


I feel sad and upset whenever a character has to go through pain. It could be Virat or Sai or Aai or Devi Tai or anyone. It has also been Pakhi in the past until she started to act vile.


I felt bad for Virat from the holi sequence till the time he started to act mad after reaching the house, till the time he had behaved disrespectfully towards Usha Maushi. I could see his pain many times even when he was fighting with Sai but that was only until he had ousted Sai and Usha Maushi from the house. Until he had closed the door on their face.

I obviously felt very bad for Sai and Usha Maushi when Virat did that. I was very upset and disappointed with Virat.

But, at the same time, I felt bad for him when Pakhi insisted on having food with him right acter he had ousted Sai from the house. I felt bad that she didn't give him the time he needed to stay alone, he had acted inhumane, so against his usual self, was also worried about his sister, but she didn't let him reflect on his actions, she didn't think he needed space. She was such a selfish person who was only interested in having food the way he used to have with Sai. She had not even thought about Sai once, two women were ousted from the house and she was least bothered.

She also was making Virat uncomfortable and kept insisting that she had food in their room.

So, at that point of time, I felt bad for Virat.

I felt bad for him yesterday too, that many in his family didn't bother about his pain or hurt. They didn't care that he was feeling guilty, have to stay away from his wife who has refused to return to his life, and that he was feeling miserable. They were mocking at his state than feeling sorry for him. I felt sorry for Virat, the son.


This is how I feel, as an audience I can get upset or angry, I can also feel bad or sorry for the character.


Sai went behind Virat's back and got his sister married.

I was upset with Sai too, since Virat was hoping to confess his feelings and spend time with her, but she never let him know of her plans.

My disappointment on Sai came down when she became the victim.

I am not as upset with Sai as I initially was since days have passed by and also because Sai's and Virat's actions can never be compared. Again, I am just an audience, below are my thoughts about Sai's actions.


As per the story, Virat has not brought up what Sai did because he is guilty right now, he doesn't want to defend himself in anyway. All that he wants is for Sai to forgive him and return to his house. Ever since he visited Gadchirolli, he has understood that he has hurt her self respect too and that she needs time to heel, she needs time to come out of what he had done to her.


If it was anyone else and not Virat, the person would also be made to think that these might not have happened if his wife had shared her plans with him.

Yes, she had her reasons for it, it is proved that his family members were plotting to separate Devi and Pulkit, so he can think that Sai took this decision trying to save Devi and Pulkit's marriage. But that would have been a mixed emotion.

One can think that way, also think that she could have tried talking to him and they both could have done something about it together.

One can say that Virat might not have trusted Sai, but did Sai even try or did she wait?

It could be that Virat's nature that played a part for Sai to take this decision without involving him. He wouldn't have believed her or he would have got influenced by his family members easily and might have fought with Sai.


I can think these as an audience, but if I have to think as Virat or any other character in the place of Virat, the question holds true as to why couldn't Sai wait and that would have led to another argument.


If Virat was not in guilt or if he was a person who was stuck to past, is not looking at how to fix the issue now, he would have thought that she could have also waited to show the college documents once the college opened, brought the whole truth out for him or let him investigate and then both could have got Devi married.


What I mean to say in the above is, people like Virat might have realised their mistake, they might apologise, there are one set of people who would ignore or neglect whatever Sai did thinking that he had failed to give Sai the confidence to share the plan with him.


There could be another set of people who would have apologised but even then held back the bitterness thinking why she couldn't have shared and would have thought of various reasons as to why it even had to come to this position. They might be wrong, might feel guilty but even then would think these. It is quite natural.


This only shows one thing, I was also moved by this, that Virat feels that he is at fault, he was wrong and he should only apologise and seek forgiveness and has no rights to even open his mouth.

The only time Virat felt like correcting Sai was when she had brought up Pakhi, he wanted to clear that Pakhi wasn't special for him like how Sai thinks but he thought that in the position he was in, he shouldn't be justifying his actions or defending himself.

"Yeh sach nahi hai Sai, par aaj mein ek shabd nahi kahoonga kyunki galti aaj meri hai"

She might have said stop acting like a mahaan, it was natural for her to have felt that way in the position she was in, but as an audience, I was happy, that he chose not to speak anything in his defense.


Not many who actually makes mistakes, apologises without trying to get defensive or trying to justify their actions. It happens involuntarily and Virat had been sensible enough to know that he shouldn't be speaking anything when he is at fault, after whatever he had done, the only thing he should do is seek her forgiveness, which is what he did.

it takes genuinely a lot of courage to accept and apologize, an honest person can only do so, it’s mostly said galti karo Aur sorry bol do, but in actuality it’s difficult to accept mistake, this is where I feel sai lacks no offense please, but sai has never realised her mistake, yes Virat was at a bigger mistake but isn’t this was started by sai, and it’s not the 1st time, she lacks patience and she is impulsive, you tigger her and she explodes, in hand holding seq also she could have calmly told Virat where is she going and that if he wants he can accompany or May be provide the details there were many ways to avoid confrontations have she ever done that, have she ever apologized Virat nope

To me, this act of his spoke a lot more than anything in this whole track, be it his confrontation with Pakhi or his family before he went to GC or after he returned from GC.


I am still upset with what Virat did to Sai and Usha Maushi. I want to see what he does, how he tries to get her to forgive. I also want to see how he behaves in future and if he would be repeating his mistakes.


Whatever happened in the latest episode might sound good and impressive, but that was something Virat should have done long back. He did, to some extent on the day of Mahashivratri.

The problem is that they lack communication they both need to talk a lot of things, there are so many unsolved questions they both need to find answers, sai is struck at one thing which Virat said before marriage but she forget all those he did, on mahashivratri when he took sai’s side, simply told his family about he standing with sai alwz, was this the reason sai took Virat for granted,

But to me, whatever happened yesterday should have happened irrespective of whether Sai returned with him or not. Only because Sai didn't return with him, did he even behave that way or talk to Kaku that way. What would he have done otherwise?


I am upset that Virat never apologised to Usha Maushi, I am not sure if it was the CVs fault.

I am upset that Virat realised his mistake only after getting to know the truth, he should have realised that ousting two women was wrong much earlier. But since he is just a fictional character and I am an audience, I don't have anything more to think on this now, I can only wait to see how he behaves in the future.

Sai might also forgive and return to him, but I would want to see what he does in the future.


I am looking forward to some good moments between the couple, hope that brings them closer emotionally as well and helps them to strengthen their relationship.


I am looking forward to see progress in both.


Major changes that I want to see in Sai

Sai is a a very nice girl, she has not done huge damages like Virat has (hand holding episode, food denial and ousting), but she has also hurt him emotionally many times.

I want to see how considerate she becomes towards Virat and his feelings.

I don't want her to hurt him without even caring how he would be feeling by acting indifferently.

I want her to apologise to Virat to have hidden about Devi's marriage from him.

If she wants to stay away from him, she needs to find a better way, make herself strong and stay away without being harsh or rude to him. Her raised walls doesn't mean hurting Virat through harsh and piercing words.

She needs to try to understand Virat, whether she understands his emotions for her or not.

Try to differentiate Virat's action towards Pakhi and towards herself. Try to make some sense out of it rather than blindly believing that he loves only Pakhi. I am aware of why she stops herself from thinking that way, but I want to see some improvement in her in trying to make sense out of Virat's actions and behavior towards her.

Behave with him or act affectionate towards him like how she has been with Aai or Devi Tai or Shivani Bua or Mohit.

She likes Virat more than any of these people, but is not showing it in her actions towards him, she has to start openly expressing her care, concern and affection for Virat, otherwise it would be emotionally taxing for Virat.

This I agree with you and the crux they both need sometime alone to talk and to heal, they need to start communicating, they lack these crucial topics, they need to give time to each other,

Major changes that I want to see in Virat :

And in Virat, I want to see how he deals with his family when they behave rudely or in an unfair manner with Sai. He needs to correct them whenever they are wrong.

I want to see how he stops Pakhi from taunting or troubling Sai. He shouldn't let Pakhi question Sai or question anything related to their relationship.

I don't want him to answer to Pakhi about why he did certain things for Sai or explain to her about anything wrt Sai.

I want to see how he acts when he gets upset with Sai or when he grows angry. I want to see him controlling his anger and handling things in a matured way.

I want him to stop taking so much liberty on Sai by shouting at her much more than his family members. Just because he can be himself with Sai, doesn't give him rights to behave extremely rude with Sai. He has to keep a check on his actions.

I want to see if he realises his mistakes on his own without someone else have to point it out to him. As @sukri said, even on the day he had refused food to Sai, he realised it only after Aai spoke to him.

I want to see consistency in his behavior, not get influenced by the words of Pakhi or his family members once Sai returns home.

I don't want him to bring Pakhi in between him and Sai in anyway, he is not an advocate for Pakhi and must remember that.

I also don't want Virat to get sympathetic towards Pakhi more than what is required, use his Aai or someone else to help Pakhi rather than volunteering himself to help her. He needs to understand that there are many people in the house and Pakhi has got parents and friends and not just him to be able to support Pakhi when she is in trouble or when she is upset.

No point in staying silent or getting emotional if Sai confronts him about Pakhi again.


he needs to stop his family from insulting sai, today when kaku said jungli mulgi I wanted Virat to say uska naam sai hai, he needs to ask kaku to stop calling her with such names,

He needs to draw a line foe Pakhi, one and for all and even after that if Pakhi creates trouble he needs to show her, her place, I am not married yet but I understand one thing, if a husband want then his family is bound to respect his wife, it is in the hand of the man, Infact on the very starting he should have told and stopped kaku from calling sai a jungli mulgi,

That’s the difference between sai and Virat, sai sternly told her village ppl to not question anything to Virat,

What I want as an audience are these, but we all know that the characterization and the script is already in place. We have no control over it.

If they are going to follow what was in the original, I can only watch as much as I can. I can analyse and criticize characters when the story progresses, even though I am aware of the future plot.


Just felt like sharing how I am feeling as an audience.


Can we please try to see this post as a tool to understand the characters, the current track. Can I also please request not to comment by criticising any character harshly? I understand that some of you might be upset with the track and the characters, but we should all wait and watch for the story to unfold. Some have expectations about the upcoming track and are excited to watch their journey too. I have expressed what my expectations are and will wait to see if any of these happens.


@idkwhattoput my answer to your post. My thoughts which I felt like expressing after your post.


I am tagging just a few who have been tagging me quite often in the recent past. Apologies for not tagging others.

babe you are right and they are so many thing which we want and I also know it’s fictional but yeah just sharing the view on relationship

I believe in one thing tht a relationship can only turn beautiful if it’s nurtured beautiful by both ends


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

I have no expectations from Sai since I am not in her position.

True, none of what Virat did actually melted my heart though 🤣🤣. I was happy that he accepted his mistake, apologised and didn't try to justify even once.


His apology was real, I agree. I am only worried that when things like this happens, he feels bad, he regrets, takes everything upon himself aur phir se kuch gadbad kar deta hai 🙈🙈.


I am just going to go with the flow. As you have said, can't forget what he had done. Will want to see how he rectifies his mistakes in the future.


We are super pissed at him but can help it but love him in a way. 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sukri

TBH I am watching these episode and enjoying them without overanalyzing their behavior.


I loved the last two episodes esp yesterday where first time family was subjected to their own chaheeta beta giving them back in the language they understand - Taunts.

True


Never would they have thought, that Virat would be angry on them, forget this kind of beizatti which as per him, he hasn't even started.

That was a good line especially when he had said how would have Sai felt then.


For Barkha, what I didn't like was them showing that if women is successfully at that level, it is difficult to find someone who will support her or love her and she will be left all alone. Are CVs saying only men can be successfully and can have a lover/ partner/ spouse? Anyways I digress, maybe it is meant to show how Virat loves her so much and is wanting to be part of Sai's journey to fulfil her dreams and be a successful doctor as not everyone can get such a partner.

@bold I think that is what they would have wanted to show.


Sai knows that loving Virat and being with him would mean dealing with his kaku and gang and I don't think she has any problem with that. She is more than enough to deal with all of them single handedly and she accepts that as part of their life.

True


So what I want to see :


1. Virat's consistent behavior going forward when it comes to Pakhi. Now he knows his family, he will know more with Harini's track. So I want to see him come to terms with his family as well as Sai and also understand what Tai went thru past 10 years. It can be Kaku/Ninad vs Sai going forward, but never Pakhi vs Sai for him.

Yeah, his behavior with Pakhi today or yesterday doesnt matter, have to be a consistent behavior.

Let's hope he realises something during the Harini track.


2. Sai trusting Virat, she need not do everything on her own. Share her thoughts with him and get his opinion and take decision together like a couple. If she comes back, it should be with the intension of being with Virat. When she can fight for other people's love, why can she not fight for her own love?

Very true, she should do it with him. Be it Amay or anything, should have been left to him. Even about Pulkit, if he had not done on his own, she could have asked him to verify once about Pulkit

Returning home to Virat never happened because of his umeed mat rakhna. She slowly started to open up and it went going down the hill everytime something happens.

Have to see how they would show this now. She might return but might still think he has feelings for Pakhi? They will have a conversation in the hospital with Pakhi just llike how they had after the PD lunch incident in their room with Pakhi. I am not sure how is Sai interpreting all these support that Virat gives to her. If he had feelings for Pakhi, will go an extra mile and support her against Pakhi?


3. No more Pakhi related misunderstandings, no matter how much she interferes and tries to cause problems, Sairat should stick together and give her proper answer at end of every track, not fight with each other.

That's not going to happen this soon 😒

If possible, give us a few non-Pakhi tracks or Pakhi focused tracks that are not related to Sairat.

That will be good, but Samrat might return and nothing much will happen. Virat will interfere in their life and speak to Pakhi about family planning or something like that and Pakhi will get irritated.


4. It is time that some senior chavans speak against Pakhi's behavior, let it be Shivani bua or Mansi Bua. It can't be just Sai or Ashwini all the time. She is disgusting and people are not that dumb.

Yes, that should happen


5. They can have repeat of the same challenges as before, however this time, they should show how Virat and Sai address those differently and handle as a couple.

Hope they do, they do actually until a certain point but with the 3rd wheel in picture, they go back to square one.


Get ride of suicide track, coz Sai Joshi is an FL in a top SP show and might be an inspiration for so many people now. She shouldn't try to commit suicide ever again and esp not coz husband suspected her, what kind of message will they be showing to people. Maybe they can show Sai argue with Virat instead saying Pakhi and you spend so much time alone in this room, have I ever questioned you about it despite her being your ex, then why can't you place that kind of trust on me with Aniket/ Milind who is just a friend and whom you know as well. It needs to be a discussion or a beautiful argument between them. If need be, people should reach out to SP/ PH to get rid of the track.

Very very true, hope they don't do it.

@bold would be good if it can be achieved this aay.

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I agree with everything you've largely said about Sai and Virat and I have been saying the same things too so nothing to add there. I concur.


So I will comment about you-know-who. The part where you mentioned how she was insisting and literally fighting with him to have dinner in his room -- as you said, she did not allow him time to reflect on his actions or care about the two women thrown out in the middle of the night.

The thing is she cannot allow him to reflect. Virat reflecting on his actions would mean Virat eventually going and apologising to Sai, and making up for the misdeed and Sai melting and forgiving him -- this if from Patralekha's perspective. She has to be around him to remind him that he has to stay true to his action and to keep adding the oil to the reducing fire. She can't let him reflect and she knows that choicest words that can help her lacerate his wounded ego. That's exactly what she tried to do by using reverse psychology and reminding him of what he's done in the past to make up with Sai, so that he doesn't consider doing it again.

But in that moment, she also wanted an instant recognition as the 'woman' he looked up to for comfort and understanding and (oh lord) "maturity". She was so overjoyed that he had announced severing of ties with his half-wife that the imaginary wife in her suddenly felt vindicated. It was indeed a special moment for her and she even asked "ye moment special Kyun Nahi ho Sakta"? What she did not know that despite removing Sai from the physical setting around him, she would not be able to prop herself into that position in his eyes.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: maahi11

babe you are right and they are so many thing which we want and I also know it’s fictional but yeah just sharing the view on relationship

I believe in one thing tht a relationship can only turn beautiful if it’s nurtured beautiful by both ends


it takes genuinely a lot of courage to accept and apologize, an honest person can only do so, it’s mostly said galti karo Aur sorry bol do, but in actuality it’s difficult to accept mistake, this is where I feel sai lacks no offense please, but sai has never realised her mistake,

Why would I take offense 😆. I might have got a little upset when people brought it right after he ousted her from the house. I didn't like it being brought, when the focus should have been on what he did at that point of time. Because offending Sai had become a defense for Virat, which is why I didn't like it.

My only confusion that I have always had is that Sai looks at her mistakes with everyone, like be it Aai or PD or Madhuri too, but just not with Virat.

I don't want her to just apologise for what she has done, I want her to act mindful as well, her actions shouldn't hurt Virat and she should take care of it. I have a huge problem when she doesn't think about how he might feel, some people who are outrightly blunt usually don't think these. She is not just blunt, her hurt that she feels when Pakhi comes into picture is shown on Virat in such a way that it is very hurtful. That is why I have mentioned a few points.


I am not saying that Virat apologising is not a big thing, it is but I am at the same time worried as how would he behave in the future. He makes mistakes, apologises and then something even bigger than this. And again apologises. You might have seen a few people who do it, they want to put an end to a conflict and then they forget it all, they continue to do what they always do. Some people put no efforts in ensuring they dont do anything like that again, it need not be the same, but ensure atleast not go wrong morally atleast.

This time I am happy that he apologised without trying to defend himself, but I would want to watch his actions and how he reacts to certain situations.

Sai and her actions sometimes becomes his test paper or his exams, whatever it is, it has to be dealt with in a better way than crossing all lines. It is a matter of worry.


yes Virat was at a bigger mistake but isn’t this was started by sai,

I agree that it was and I even wrote posts explaining Virat's position, but how can I ignore that she felt apologetic and before she could explain to him he reacted like that and that reaction was disturbing. Him reacting this way is not the first time too. I have written posts from Virat' pov many times in the past, have defended him too, but this was a big let down.


and it’s not the 1st time, she lacks patience and she is impulsive, you tigger her and she explodes, in hand holding seq also she could have calmly told Virat where is she going and that if he wants he can accompany or May be provide the details there were many ways to avoid confrontations have she ever done that,

I agree, there was a big uproar and even then I had put down Virat's pov. He was also being very protective and her behavior riled him up. She lacks patience, she is impulsive, no doubt, I have told to others too, that day she was upset with Virat after her confrontation with him the previous night. If it was any other day, she might have told him but that day she was already upset with him because he never denied that he doesn't have any feelings for Pakhi at the end. I believe that was the reason for her indifferent behavior towards Virat that day.

About avoiding confrontations, not all times has she been at fault. Sometimes it has been hers and sometimes, his too. He or Pakhi or his family members instigates her in one or the other way.

She has been wrong in many way, but he has also failed. Did he even want to listen to Sai when they said she didn't apply Alta? Why didn't he even want to know why did she deny it? Somewhere there mood plays a role in it. Their insecurity is making them do many things. Virat behaves irrationally when he feels insecured, then it is quite natural for Sai since her insecurity is a jeethi jaathi insaan Pakhi.

That is how I try to understand the point of view of both of them. Also, both have been brought up in an entirely different set up. He was conditioned and she was given freedom. He can turn blind eye whereas she cannot. He is loved by his Aai but his actions, movements were all always restricted, her Aaba loved her and gave her liberty to deal with things on her own. Many such things are the reasons why they are the way today. He is much elder than her, has experience too, she will have to learn a lot of things in her life. Some things, she will come to know only if she fails, only by making mistakes, can't help it.

I am very different from Sai, moral values would match, but have been brought up in a very traditional and orthodox family. I have learnt a lot staying with my family. It teaches you to be patient, to be considerate, to act understanding, act magnanimous, not acting egoistic, being apologetic, to get approval and then do things, keeping people informed of your whereabouts and so much more. But these are things that we get to learn at home, due to our surroundings, due to the soft and tough people we mingle with, due to the situations we face in the life. The girl has just begun her journey without her father, has a long way to go. She has changed in a few ways already from what I have noticed, but still has a lot of things to learn. We can't change her nature entirely though. I think and act, don't take hasty decisions, but not many I know are like that. I think a lot before speaking too or to contradict, but I have seen many who don't do it. But they are nice people, people good at heart.


have she ever apologized Virat nope

She doesn't just apologise to Virat somehow. She apologised to Pakhi for the sake of Virat. She apologised to many people but just not him which I fail to understand. Unapologetic people won't apologise to anyone, they wont realise their mistakes at all, but she does realise her mistakes with everyone, but him.

But this time, she did feel sorry that she was hiding it from him after the bangle scene, at the mandap while getting ready.

She is impulsive by nature, that she will have to correct.


"Whatever happened in the latest episode might sound good and impressive, but that was something Virat should have done long back. He did, to some extent on the day of Mahashivratri. "

he problem is that they lack communication they both need to talk a lot of things, there are so many unsolved questions they both need to find answers, sai is struck at one thing which Virat said before marriage but she forget all those he did, on mahashivratri when he took sai’s side, simply told his family about he standing with sai alwz, was this the reason sai took Virat for granted,

I meant Virat's confrontation with his family. It might have been good to watch it in the latest episode, but it was something that Virat should have done long back. He should have set things right like this with his family and Pakhi too. He has acted quite late is what I would say. He has been taking too many things for granted when Pakhi or the family was troubling Sai.


Sai might remember what was being told by Virat before marriage, but that is not the reason she is stuck with it. The reason is Virat himself. One day he will act all nice, flirt with her and the another day, he will encourage Pakhi's advances, he will stay silent when Pakhi speaks against Sai or he will keep asking out of the blue moon for Sai to accept Pakhi as a friend, to not misunderstand Pakhi. His reaction towards Pakhi, when she cancelled the trip was thanda when compared to what he spoke to Sai in their room. He provokes her by a biased behavior, like pakshpaath, he literally does it many a times if you have noticed.


Also, I don't think Sai took Virat for granted this time, she just blindly thought that she will get them married and let Virat know, he will understand once he comes to know how happy his sister is. If she had done taking it for granted, would she have felt sorry or would she have been worried so many times? It was like she was doing something good for someone and he might eventually understand, if she explains to him or if he finds the proof that Pulkit is a good guy.

She was given freedom in her father's house and that is playing a part in it as she doesn't understand how big of a fault it was to expect him to understand after everything is over. It is not like a birthday surprise and Sai is failing to understand these. This is not me defending Sai, this is what I have understood it as, when I asked myself many a times as how could she have done it.


he needs to stop his family from insulting sai, today when kaku said jungli mulgi I wanted Virat to say uska naam sai hai, he needs to ask kaku to stop calling her with such names,

I don't know why he has never done it. Hope he does it in the future.


babe you are right and they are so many thing which we want and I also know it’s fictional but yeah just sharing the view on relationship

I believe in one thing tht a relationship can only turn beautiful if it’s nurtured beautiful by both ends

True, both have to ❤❤.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Awesome post as always,the best in summing up both without any bias.

I genuinely feel ,like I already said,the story I am watching doesn’t belong to me. It is being lived by Sairat and it is their journey of life.

Sai reacted that way depending on her charecterisation and other than feeling good or bad,I shouldn’t have anything to feel remorseful or highly elated.

Totally agree with everything written,special mention to evolution of both after they come together. Beautiful sum up.

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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

I agree with everything you've largely said about Sai and Virat and I have been saying the same things too so nothing to add there. I concur.

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So I will comment about you-know-who. The part where you mentioned how she was insisting and literally fighting with him to have dinner in his room -- as you said, she did not allow him time to reflect on his actions or care about the two women thrown out in the middle of the night.

The thing is she cannot allow him to reflect. Virat reflecting on his actions would mean Virat eventually going and apologising to Sai, and making up for the misdeed and Sai melting and forgiving him -- this if from Patralekha's perspective. She has to be around him to remind him that he has to stay true to his action and to keep adding the oil to the reducing fire. She can't let him reflect and she knows that choicest words that can help her lacerate his wounded ego. That's exactly what she tried to do by using reverse psychology and reminding him of what he's done in the past to make up with Sai, so that he doesn't consider doing it again.

😒 Yes, it was a deliberate attempt to stop him from changing his decision. Just that, it looked so disturbing that in the process of trying to stop him from correcting his action, she didn't let him stay in peace. Well, he wouldn't be at peace, but atleast wouldn't be bothered like this by someone. He just couldn't believe that she wanted to have dinner at a time like this and that too only in his room.

It was like a kid throwing tantrums during a cery serious situation. One can understand when a kid does it, she is pathetic.


But in that moment, she also wanted an instant recognition as the 'woman' he looked up to for comfort and understanding and (oh lord) "maturity".

I think I missed to see it this way. I knew that she wanted to be around him and add fuel to the fire or manipualte him through reverse psychology, but didn't think of it this way.

I did see that she was desperate to have dinner with him the way he had with Sai, but couldn't catch this motive of hers.


She was so overjoyed that he had announced severing of ties with his half-wife that the imaginary wife in her suddenly felt vindicated. It was indeed a special moment for her and she even asked "ye moment special Kyun Nahi ho Sakta"?

Oh my god 😲. That was what she meant? I thought that she brought that up as a retort or since she wanted to know because he associated the special thing with Sai. Unbelievable 😡.


What she did not know that despite removing Sai from the physical setting around him, she would not be able to prop herself into that position in his eyes.

Very true 😆

You have made me look at another colour of you- know-who 😳. Thanks for sharing this. The journey ahead looks very bumpy.

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Hi laksh, awesome analysis I agree with each and every point of yours.... I just want share my pov....

According to me, balehi virat broke the relationship but both Sai and virat are equally responsible for breaking the trust in their relationship.... I love sai and I am sai side for what virat did but even then in last few episodes I didn't like few dialogues of sai, sai to virat " rishthe vunhi see nibhathe hai jinhe rishthe ki kadhar ho"

Sai to bharka " virat sir be mujh par vishwas nahi Kiya " jab ki she didn't even try to tell the truth before marriage .... I know virat did big big big mistake and sai is hurt which is rightful but she also did mistake which she is not realizing, I so wish she realizes her mistake after forgiving virat....

While coming to virat.... He did so inhuman thing in his anger which is wrong in every level, and he realized it but as you mentioned I so wished he realize what he did is wrong irrespective of sai's truth... And I so wish he apologized Usha mausi because he literally treated her as if she is sai's baggage. While coming to applozing, I really liked how he completely and genuinely took the blame for what he did , he didn't try to reason it, he didn't try to push blame on someone else , he didn't try to point out sai mistake or family involvement in the whole situation ( which also played the part)... This is very rare trait and this shows his charector.... App log Mano ya na Mano , mostly people try to find for the reason to cover-up their crime either to escape from punishment or escape from their own guilt and only few people have that strengthen to take up all the blame of their crime on themselves... So according to me his redemption started but yes, sai is very hurt and she needs to time which is right in every scene and virat should also realize few things and clear out few things ,so they definitely need a break... But if you ask me if I forgive virat for what he did, yes his guilt is his major punishment and we can see it , so my heart goes for him but sai hurt is still fresh and it needs time to heal

Edited by Saichintalli - 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Saichintalli

Hi laksh, awesome analysis I agree with each and every point of yours.... I just want share my pov....

Thanks 😊

According to me, balehi virat broke the relationship but both Sai and virat are equally responsible for breaking the trust in their relationship.... I love sai and I am sai side for what virat did but even then in last few episodes I didn't like few dialogues of sai, sai to virat " rishthe vunhi see nibhathe hai jinhe rishthe ki kadhar ho"

I think that has come out in hurt/anger because he could have decided to show his hurt, disappointment, his anger or betrayal in any other way than to end it isnt it? Didn't we all not ask why should he choose this way? If he had valued her, would he have ended their relationship like this? If he had valued her, wouldn't he have given her a chance to explain? When you oust a person out of the house in the middle of the night, what impression does it leave? That you don't value them at all.

He calls her his family, but didn't treat her like one. Words and actions should go hand in hand. His reaction to Omi Kaka was different to that with Sai. I have myself given reasons for it, but even then, when you consider them to be your family, you will choose to show your hurt or anger by stop talking to them, acting indifferent with them, not by ending the relationship with them. Sai wasn't wrong when she spoke that. She was absolutely right.

She should have thought before what she did to get Devi Tai married without letting him know, but that doesn't mean that is the same as him doing this. She only thought that she could let him know once she returns, she saw how the whole family acted in his absence, she also had seen how easily Virat gets influenced by everyone in his family, so she didn't think much. But that doesn't mean she didn't value him. She had a faith that he might eventually understand her and especially when he comes to know that Pulkit is a good guy.


i to bharka " virat sir be mujh par vishwas nahi Kiya " jab ki she didn't even try to tell the truth before marriage ....

Have just answered above. See, getting a girl married because she wasn't confident if Virat will support her or not is not the same as kicking her out of the house because he didn't trust her isnt it?

We need to look at the severity of the damages. In her position, she would obviously feel this way. He treated her like a thing, an object.

I know virat did big big big mistake and sai is hurt which is rightful but she also did mistake which she is not realizing, I so wish she realizes her mistake after forgiving virat....

While coming to virat.... He did so inhuman thing in his anger which is wrong in every level, and he realized it but as you mentioned I so wished he realize what he did is wrong irrespective of sai's truth... And I so wish he apologized Usha mausi because he literally treated her as if she is sai's baggage. While coming to applozing, I really liked how he completely and genuinely took the blame for what he did , he didn't try to reason it, he didn't try to push blame on someone else , he didn't try to point out sai mistake or family involvement in the whole situation ( which also played the part)... This is very rare trait and this shows his charector.... App log Mano ya na Mano , mostly people try to find for the reason to cover-up their crime either to escape from punishment or escape from their own guilt and only few people have that strengthen to take up all the blame of their crime on themselves...

I agree but he has got a bad history. Some people also apologise as soon as they know they are at fault to end conflicts. We know Virat isn't one like that. But, he is also a person who apologises and again makes bigger mistakes. That is why I am not going to say anything much until I see how he behaves in the future. This is not the first time he is doing it. Sai might have made a lot of mistakes, but he has made grave mistakes and all the time.

He has been morally incorrect by denying food, showing force, closing the doors, threatening to lock her in a room, taking away the money that he had lent and now ousting her from the house.

What is the purpose in apologising about the money thing, when he said "ab tumhare paas chath nahi, jaake duniyaadari seekh lo"?

He took away money so that she doesn't buy food for herself, for her to know that she was actually dependent on him, he got her food, fed her by apologising and gave her money in the temple again apologising. What did he do now? He has again showed her that she is dependent on him and will have no roof to live, if not for him. Last apology gaya bhaad mein.

So, I am only going to watch his actions, yes, he has apologised but it has not melted me since he can't be trusted that easily for now.

I will have to take a leap of faith and trust him, Sai might, not me as an audience.

I am not saying Virat is a monster, but I am also not going to blindly believe him because he has apologised. Both are flawed characters, but his reactions and decisions are disastrous.

I was moved when he didn't defend himself or justify his actions.

I have listed out my expectations from Sai. I am not a strong Sai or Virat supporter. It all depends on their actions for me. As you would have seen, I have defended Virat when he is being questioned for no fault of his. It is just that we cannot ignore that Virat loses himself when he is angry, once he calms down and comes to know that he was wrong, he becomes entirely sweet.

In real life, such things will turn out to be very problematic. It is more tricky to trust such people because they can be easily trusted, but will they hold on to their words is what one has to see. This becomes a habit in people, commit mistakes, apologise, move on, commit one more. Let's hope Virat is not moving into that direction.


So according to me his redemption started but yes, sai is very hurt and she needs to time which is right in every scene and virat should also realize few things and clear out few things ,so they definitely need a break... But if you ask me if I forgive virat for what he did, yes his guilt is his major punishment and we can see it , so my heart goes for him but sai hurt is still fresh and it needs time to heal

Hi, have replied in green.

Edited by laksh - 4 years ago

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