Ep 60 - Battle lines drawn

Today, the battle lines were effectively drawn and we know who's on who's side.

Rambo is the right name for that sanki buddha... I refuse to believe he even has heart issues, nautanki kahin ka. 😡 He was able to stop both his wife and young son from moving. Ayi should walk out and never go back to this useless guy. I am so glad to see a traditional housewife choose to ignore her husband's blackmail over losing her mangalsutra and picking her daughter's well-being again. I knew it was coming but I also hated that they showed Rambo throwing Pallavi on the ground like that. THIS IS ABUSE. How many FLs have we seen in the same position as her, crying at the doorstep asking to be let back in and to be given a chance to explain themselves? Ugh... I know many people were happy to say let him set fire to himself, but that would only have made Pallavi feel worse. Let her see him for what he really is. Milind and Mansi - I've crossed them off my list for good.

Farhad and Raghav's scene was exactly what I was hoping for. Props to Himanshu, he did great expressing disgust not just with his words but also his eyes. Raghav had to tell him to look away because he's condemning gaze was too much to handle and because as his voice of reason, he suspects there is a chance Farhad is right. I love that he didn't back down from facing his Anna. It takes a lot of guts to do that, and he's the only one who can do it and get away with it. Calling himself Raghav's secretary didn't go down well with his boss and as everyone's said already, Raghav's trying hard to convince himself that he was right. I hope Farhad is the one to tell Amma what happened. It would make sense after today's scene.

The shot of Raghav standing in the living room with his portrait in the back was impressive and symbolic. He has a larger than life image of himself in his head and while he was able to execute his plan, everything felt hollow as his laugh indicated and his life was as lonely as before. He may have sent Farhad away in anger but seeing Farhad's disgust did manage to unsettle him. He is not going to be at peace and roaming out on the streets like a madman at night shows that, as we had predicted, he doesn't feel even a little triumphant. I wish they would stop showing him drinking and driving, it's not a good message. I understand Farhad has left him all alone so he has no driver but surely with all his money he can get one? One of these days he's going to have an accident or run someone over.

The editing when Raghav tried to wipe the writing on the wall was very choppy and I hate it when they try to put such things in slow motion, it ruins the effect and makes the audio seem out of sync. Agree with many of you, Sai needs to work on emoting such scenes a bit but he'll get there. The Raghav Rao, who cares so much about his appearance, didn't think once before muddying his clothes (and then putting them back on). I loved it when he collapsed on the floor and said his Amma was his jaan. They were try to show the little boy in him again, to remind the audience why he did all this so that people can find the future tracks palatable and his acceptance of Amma's condition believable.

Frankly, I found the confrontation between Raghav and Pallavi underwhelming, but oh well. It needed to be done. While they use fire-related imagery to describe him, I was hoping to see them use use the more destructive form of water but maybe that will come later. I know a lot of people have hopes from her character to go on a rampage and destroy his life but after this scene I will stop expecting anything of the sort. I think she would be better of being shown to play subtle games because that would be more believable and would have a greater (negative) impact on his life. When Pallavi calms down later, she might think about Raghav's exact words to her today, that he hurt her back for what she did to him. She might think back to the truck incident and the Anjali one, yet an unsolved mystery. I want her to investigate the matter for her own sake and not to prove her innocence to anyone.

You could argue that he was also taking revenge for his own humuliation at the MMS scandal and Amma's anger after that. He didn't mention his mother and sister, which makes sense because he didn't want to keep talking about what happened to them and didn't want to give her the pleasure of seeing the pain he felt because of something she apparently did to his family. Raghav also wanted to remind her that he was the same ruthless don who she met in the beginning and that he was no longer going to let someone like her soften his approach to dealing with enemies or his attitude. He was the don of the city and he was reclaiming it once again, as much to emphasize it to her as to remind himself of his 'true identity'. He may not see it, but we did, that his conscience has already started to bother him, not only because of what Farhad said or made him feel - he has never done this sort of thing to anyone before, he didn't have sufficient evidence, etc. - but because I don't think he himself ever thought he'd stoop to this level. This was definitely a first.

I'm not happy about Amma and Keerti moving in with Raghav, especially if they are automatically reconciled. I really wanted them to have a gradual journey towards finding each other again as a family, but I understand with all the humiliation Amma might prefer Keerti to have her brother's protection. I wanted Raghav and Pallavi to have some privacy, but if Amma is the catalyst for the wedding then this won't be possible. So much for alone moments in that gorgeous RR mansion. Ab tire exercises to bhool hi jao sab log. I guess they hate each other so much that without other people around to force them into situations together, we won't see the tug of war that the promos promised. I am really sad that the mansion is now going to be a family home so quickly, but oh well. He won't be able to drown his anger and sorrow in alcohol like before because he will have his mother and sister home. That's going to frustrate him further.

I don't know to what extent Pallavi will be a storm, because living with Amma and Keerti would soften her approach and she won't be able to be rough in front of them. I hope she causes damage to his business. I also want to see Amma and Keerti remain angry with him as before, despite being under one roof, because that will hurt more, but this is probably not going to remain for long. They are bound to melt after Raghav continuously looks after them and does everything to make them feel comfortable. I am assuming Pallavi will try and alienate them further so that he feels the full weight of what she did, and even create a situation so that they hate him more than ever. He would have fulfilled his dream of bringing them home but the emotional distance would be harder. After today, I don't think I will ever take to this Amma and care about the mother-son dynamics the way I would have with Amma 1. Sorry, it's been spoiled for me.

The contrast between both brothers was shown again today. Nikhil and Pallavi aren't related by blood but I can bet he would give his life for her if needed. He's not a raging bull but would do anything to support his sister. I was blowing kisses at him today. He's younger and less experienced in life but knows his priorties better than the other 'grown ups'. His focus was not on his emotions but on how Pallavi was doing in that moment. Raghav, on the other hand, was doing all this in his own sister's (and mother's) name but it was as much about him as them. He needs to get his head out of the sand.

Farhad and Nikhil where the highlights of the episode for me. I have a feeling the fire in Raghav we've seen so far is nothing compared to what we will see coming up.

There's so much more I wanted to say about the episode but I feel a bit let down and not interested in watching next week. That's also a first.

Share your thoughts please.

In today’s episode I loved the scene with Raghav and Farhad, and Aayi and Nikhil. I used to give Baba the benefit of doubt but after yesterday and today, I absolutely hate that man. Not only was he abusive and cruel while throwing Pallavi out. He was so manipulative with the whole set himself on fire thing just for his ego and because his decision is all that matters. Aayi and Nikhil were amazing, both of them proved that when they said Pallavi is family they meant it. The actors playing the characters are doing an amazing job, I especially like the actress playing Aayi. Farhad and Raghav scene was brilliant. Farhad’s disgust and disappointment in his Anna came through so well. I feel like he has really been the star of the past few episodes. We’ve seen another side of him and though he isn’t on screen for too long, he’s made an impact so props to Himanshu. Sulochana scene I didn’t see but I assume it was all about how she took revenge because she was wronged. The scene where Raghav was outside his Amma’s house was ruined by the editing so I didn’t watch it. I agree that the Raghav Pallavi confrontation was underwhelming. It just seemed like a way to get them to throw weighty dialogues at each other, which they’ve done in the past, and nothing different or constructive happened. I agree the new Amma doesn’t make as much of an impact as the earlier one, probably because her understanding of the character and intensity is different and I was so used to the first one. About Amma and Keerthi moving in to his house, I have mixed opinions. On one hand it makes sense, they’ll want to protect Pallu from Raghav because I doubt they’ve seen the lioness in her and they know the intensity of Raghav’s anger. They might also force them to come together. On the other hand, they will not have the privacy that I would have liked them to have to play their revenge game and eventually fall in love. But I don’t want Amma and Keerthi to accept him so soon, because it’ll take away a very significant part of his character. Let’s wait and watch.
Amazing analysis as always.

After a couple of really good episodes, this one was overall a damp squib. Such an emotionally charged episode, should have been written and edited well.. why did they have to show Sulochana and Amruta's low key celebration moment? We know how she feels about all this.. Pallavi, from being thrown out to standing infront of Raghav's car was barely shown.. she is the one wronged here and I wanted to feel more for her but couldnt because I barely got to know what's going in her mind.. this was one of those life altering moments for her.. didnt feel like that to the effect I wanted it to be.. and yes her scene with Raghav was also underwhelming.. Couldnt feel the hate chemistry as strongly as I wanted.. I wanted her to pounce on him. Throw things at him.. lose all inhibitions in anger .. didnt want a symbolic screen shot worthy image of her holding his collar... Arey jao pathar uthake maro..this is where I wanted the scene to be dramatic and OTT.

Farhad Raghav scene took the cake.. Raghav could not stand the heat of Farhad's deadly glare... Such pretty eyes Farhad has btw..looks like he wears falsies and eyeshadow!! 😆 I really like that guy and the other character I adore is Nikhil.. I think he doesnt get enough credit...Farhad was the voice of reasoning as always.. But Raghav was already half way through the bottle.. Drinking and thinking about amma and Keerthi's tragic state of affairs was working perfectly to justify his despicable actions.. only if it could make Farhad magically disappear.. Im glad Farhad didnt budge today.. he stood his ground despite insults been thrown at him, to say what he had to say. After Farhad leaves, its like his own conscience left him.. and the Raghav we saw raising his arms, toasting to his victory that he had no one to celebrate with, laughing like a maniac, wasnt Raghav.. it was an empty shell of the man in the portrait who looks larger than life and smiles benevolently.. this man, even Raghav wouldnt recognize in his senses..

P.S - scenes in Deshmukh house that involved VD..again very OTT.. Ayi and Nikhil did what they had in their power.. Milind kaka who raised hell when it was his daighters in the line of fire, today got dragged away like a rag doll. Vijay Deshmukh trying to torch himself..the less said the better.. it was laughable.

Raghav's scene at his amma's house - unnecessary, OTT, again felt no connect.. this is one aspect, I feel SKR can work on.. emotional scenes especially the ones that involve crying or having an emotional breakdown.. Im sure he will improve with time.

I don't know how much of a battle will happen to be honest. If Amma and Keerti are in Raghav's home, then there is little scope for any battle to happen openly, from either party. It will be restricted to their room.

And going by Sitara standards, they might reduce it to lame tricks by Pallavi, who is incapable of doing any kind of battle, she can only yap and give sermons. And Raghav can only fume, cause he won't toe the line with Amma and Keerti scrutinizing him.

In the midst of all this, if they can show something worth our while is Farhad doing something about the MMS and morphed pictures case. He firmly believes that Pallavi has not done anything, but till now nothing has happened. I think this one has impacted Farhad deeply. He might investigate this matter on his own. I believe Pallavi should not involve herself in either case. Why should she honestly? She is accused of things she never did, and neither she needs to prove a point to Raghav of all people. This should be completely between FaRag. Cause Farhad is Raghav's friend, and he should be the one to open his eyes to the truth, not Pallavi.

Pallavi can infact remain to be Pallavi only. She has no grudges against Jaya and Keerti. So she can carry on with living her life and obviously secretly helping DSE out, without involving anyone but Nikhil and Krishna. Her revenge with Raghav is mostly to show him that money cannot buy everything. So, one of the ways, except not being his wife, would be to establish DSE without making her presence felt. And Pallavi is a kind person overall, so they can show glimpses of that as well, which could leave an impact on Raghav. Cause Pallavi pe Raghav ke kisi bhi baat ka asar abhi dikhana is pointless. More than Pallavi, its Raghav's time to learn his follies.

Originally posted by: libran90

I don't know how much of a battle will happen to be honest. If Amma and Keerti are in Raghav's home, then there is little scope for any battle to happen openly, from either party. It will be restricted to their room.

And going by Sitara standards, they might reduce it to lame tricks by Pallavi, who is incapable of doing any kind of battle, she can only yap and give sermons. And Raghav can only fume, cause he won't toe the line with Amma and Keerti scrutinizing him.

In the midst of all this, if they can show something worth our while is Farhad doing something about the MMS and morphed pictures case. He firmly believes that Pallavi has not done anything, but till now nothing has happened. I think this one has impacted Farhad deeply. He might investigate this matter on his own. I believe Pallavi should not involve herself in either case. Why should she honestly? She is accused of things she never did, and neither she needs to prove a point to Raghav of all people. This should be completely between FaRag. Cause Farhad is Raghav's friend, and he should be the one to open his eyes to the truth, not Pallavi.

Pallavi can infact remain to be Pallavi only. She has no grudges against Jaya and Keerti. So she can carry on with living her life and obviously secretly helping DSE out, without involving anyone but Nikhil and Krishna. Her revenge with Raghav is mostly to show him that money cannot buy everything. So, one of the ways, except not being his wife, would be to establish DSE without making her presence felt. And Pallavi is a kind person overall, so they can show glimpses of that as well, which could leave an impact on Raghav. Cause Pallavi pe Raghav ke kisi bhi baat ka asar abhi dikhana is pointless. More than Pallavi, its Raghav's time to learn his follies.

I missed ur post as I have been inactive today.

Lovely analysis.

It was a nice episode. But I still hoped that some scenes were given much more screen space like Pallavi walking on streets and definitely the confrontation.

The walking on streets could have been dealt more seriously. I expected a swollen and dead eyed Pallavi walking aimlessly on streets. But they missed to make Shivangi shine in this!!

For reference , I expected this kind of stuff!!

https://youtu.be/am3alo-v8uQ

But it left off choppy!!

And as I mentioned in my post too the emotional scene of Raghav at his amma's house felt empty n choppy.

I really wanted the focus on Pallavi but they chopped it off.

Originally posted by: hapc

In today’s episode I loved the scene with Raghav and Farhad, and Aayi and Nikhil. I used to give Baba the benefit of doubt but after yesterday and today, I absolutely hate that man. Not only was he abusive and cruel while throwing Pallavi out. He was so manipulative with the whole set himself on fire thing just for his ego and because his decision is all that matters. Aayi and Nikhil were amazing, both of them proved that when they said Pallavi is family they meant it. The actors playing the characters are doing an amazing job, I especially like the actress playing Aayi. Farhad and Raghav scene was brilliant. Farhad’s disgust and disappointment in his Anna came through so well. I feel like he has really been the star of the past few episodes. We’ve seen another side of him and though he isn’t on screen for too long, he’s made an impact so props to Himanshu. Sulochana scene I didn’t see but I assume it was all about how she took revenge because she was wronged. The scene where Raghav was outside his Amma’s house was ruined by the editing so I didn’t watch it. I agree that the Raghav Pallavi confrontation was underwhelming. It just seemed like a way to get them to throw weighty dialogues at each other, which they’ve done in the past, and nothing different or constructive happened. I agree the new Amma doesn’t make as much of an impact as the earlier one, probably because her understanding of the character and intensity is different and I was so used to the first one. About Amma and Keerthi moving in to his house, I have mixed opinions. On one hand it makes sense, they’ll want to protect Pallu from Raghav because I doubt they’ve seen the lioness in her and they know the intensity of Raghav’s anger. They might also force them to come together. On the other hand, they will not have the privacy that I would have liked them to have to play their revenge game and eventually fall in love. But I don’t want Amma and Keerthi to accept him so soon, because it’ll take away a very significant part of his character. Let’s wait and watch.
Amazing analysis as always.

Thank you!

Agree, Farhad has been a star and I'm all for petitioning the PH to give us more scenes of him.

I do think Amma will keep an eye on the couple to make sure that Raghav honors the marriage because she knows the moment she looks away he will try to find a way out.

I am also one of those who don't want his family to accept him so soon, and after what he just did, probably they should be even angrier than before. This is following on the backs of what Amma told him during the photoshoot, to leave people alone, but he didn't listen.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

After a couple of really good episodes, this one was overall a damp squib. Such an emotionally charged episode, should have been written and edited well.. why did they have to show Sulochana and Amruta's low key celebration moment? We know how she feels about all this.. Pallavi, from being thrown out to standing infront of Raghav's car was barely shown.. she is the one wronged here and I wanted to feel more for her but couldnt because I barely got to know what's going in her mind.. this was one of those life altering moments for her.. didnt feel like that to the effect I wanted it to be.. and yes her scene with Raghav was also underwhelming.. Couldnt feel the hate chemistry as strongly as I wanted.. I wanted her to pounce on him. Throw things at him.. lose all inhibitions in anger .. didnt want a symbolic screen shot worthy image of her holding his collar... Arey jao pathar uthake maro..this is where I wanted the scene to be dramatic and OTT.

Farhad Raghav scene took the cake.. Raghav could not stand the heat of Farhad's deadly glare... Such pretty eyes Farhad has btw..looks like he wears falsies and eyeshadow!! 😆 I really like that guy and the other character I adore is Nikhil.. I think he doesnt get enough credit...Farhad was the voice of reasoning as always.. But Raghav was already half way through the bottle.. Drinking and thinking about amma and Keerthi's tragic state of affairs was working perfectly to justify his despicable actions.. only if it could make Farhad magically disappear.. Im glad Farhad didnt budge today.. he stood his ground despite insults been thrown at him, to say what he had to say. After Farhad leaves, its like his own conscience left him.. and the Raghav we saw raising his arms, toasting to his victory that he had no one to celebrate with, laughing like a maniac, wasnt Raghav.. it was an empty shell of the man in the portrait who looks larger than life and smiles benevolently.. this man, even Raghav wouldnt recognize in his senses..

P.S - scenes in Deshmukh house that involved VD..again very OTT.. Ayi and Nikhil did what they had in their power.. Milind kaka who raised hell when it was his daighters in the line of fire, today got dragged away like a rag doll. Vijay Deshmukh trying to torch himself..the less said the better.. it was laughable.

Raghav's scene at his amma's house - unnecessary, OTT, again felt no connect.. this is one aspect, I feel SKR can work on.. emotional scenes especially the ones that involve crying or having an emotional breakdown.. Im sure he will improve with time.

Damp squib indeed. I didn't have super high expectations because we kind of knew what was coming but it was worse than I expected and the first time I didn't watch an episode of this show twice back to back. I know there's an entire thread about this so I won't waste time discussing the execution issues here.

I really don't see her as being his kaal or anything. It is likely to be cheesy and silly games from her end, and using Amma and Keerti to get him to do stuff he doesn't want or to keep him in check by threatening to tell them.

Farhad standing his ground was really the best thing in the episode and once again highlighted what a principled man he is, despite working for a don. He knows right from wrong, and I suspect the reason Raghav and he are so close is because in many ways he's ensured that Raghav didn't go out of control. I really want to see more him throwing the I'm just your secretary barbs at Raghav and pissing him off. I don't think Raghav would apologize or try to pacify him, and he knows Farhad well enough to know that this matter isn't going to go away easily. I'm a bit confused about their dynamics, though, because in the BTS we saw him excited along with Raghav on seeing Amma in their home.

@bold I really loved this line. Well said!

Yes, Raghav really seemed to have lost it, as if he knew that through his actions he had killed a part of his soul.

Rambo is a waste of space, period. The writing on the wall scene could have been better if there had been less dialogues as well as her walking on the street. Sometimes, good background music/songs can make the most impact when the character is going through a tough situation where their life has been turned upside down and words aren't sufficient to express their condition. I was expecting something like a Cham se jo toote koi sapna for her and maa (KGF song) for Raghav in their respective scenes or something appropriate because the CVs have done this well.

What made this episode feel worse is that all the episodes that led to it were very well done, especially the entire restaurant scene and him talking to Krishna. It was crisp, clean, and perfectly executed and edited. The contrast with the latest episode is quite sharp. Let's hope they remedy this.

Originally posted by: libran90

I don't know how much of a battle will happen to be honest. If Amma and Keerti are in Raghav's home, then there is little scope for any battle to happen openly, from either party. It will be restricted to their room.

And going by Sitara standards, they might reduce it to lame tricks by Pallavi, who is incapable of doing any kind of battle, she can only yap and give sermons. And Raghav can only fume, cause he won't toe the line with Amma and Keerti scrutinizing him.

In the midst of all this, if they can show something worth our while is Farhad doing something about the MMS and morphed pictures case. He firmly believes that Pallavi has not done anything, but till now nothing has happened. I think this one has impacted Farhad deeply. He might investigate this matter on his own. I believe Pallavi should not involve herself in either case. Why should she honestly? She is accused of things she never did, and neither she needs to prove a point to Raghav of all people. This should be completely between FaRag. Cause Farhad is Raghav's friend, and he should be the one to open his eyes to the truth, not Pallavi.

Pallavi can infact remain to be Pallavi only. She has no grudges against Jaya and Keerti. So she can carry on with living her life and obviously secretly helping DSE out, without involving anyone but Nikhil and Krishna. Her revenge with Raghav is mostly to show him that money cannot buy everything. So, one of the ways, except not being his wife, would be to establish DSE without making her presence felt. And Pallavi is a kind person overall, so they can show glimpses of that as well, which could leave an impact on Raghav. Cause Pallavi pe Raghav ke kisi bhi baat ka asar abhi dikhana is pointless. More than Pallavi, its Raghav's time to learn his follies.

I don't think there will be out and out tashan at this point, no burning or breaking stuff, etc. Most likely we will se cringeworthy scenes of them being made to perform post-wedding rituals and doing couple activities that both will hate. I guess it will be more of the bickering in the room, some comedy like we saw in the Lion track, and maybe some games of one-upmanship.

Farhad investigating would make so much sense, otherwise all his objections are for nothing if he doesn't bother to follow through with finding the truth. I don't mind if Harish does it either, because he may seem less sharp but often sees the most obvious things that others don't.

I am just really hoping we don't get Pallavi playing the typical bahu and looking after her household typical sequences and forever trying to please Amma. Yuck. Especially with this Amma who gives me the typical sweet saas vibes that is so not fit for the Hyderabad ka don's mother. I don't want to see her brought in to solve every one of their problems or for Keerti and her to be creating situations for these two to come closer. To what extent Raghav will mend his ways, remains to be seen. I mean, in the precap where Amma puts forward her condition for moving in with him, I was missing the fire that Amma 1 would have had when saying the same thing to him... Anyway, if Pallavi is not going to be his wife beyond legalities, what will she spend her time doing? No DSE, no crazy Deshmukhs to drive her nuts, etc. I don't see her planning during the day how to make Raghav's life hell (will be pleasantly surprised if she does).

Originally posted by: christobelle

I missed ur post as I have been inactive today.

Lovely analysis.

It was a nice episode. But I still hoped that some scenes were given much more screen space like Pallavi walking on streets and definitely the confrontation.

The walking on streets could have been dealt more seriously. I expected a swollen and dead eyed Pallavi walking aimlessly on streets. But they missed to make Shivangi shine in this!!

For reference , I expected this kind of stuff!!

https://youtu.be/am3alo-v8uQ

But it left off choppy!!

And as I mentioned in my post too the emotional scene of Raghav at his amma's house felt empty n choppy.

I really wanted the focus on Pallavi but they chopped it off.

Thanks!

Yeah, the walking on the streets was a major let down. They might have done better by having her sit in a corner quietly and cry or be in shock. After all the effort they put into such outdoor scenes, it feels bad when they miss the mark. Yes, this should have been the scene were we all felt the heroine's pain and were eager to support her but that didn't happen. We will still support her, of course, but won't be as charged up for revenge because she failed to show it. I would have also been fine with Pallavi just showing her cold rage, that works well too.