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Good evening Sisterhood 🌻🌻🌻

The episode was indeed beautifully executed -- the shame, guilt, hurt, resentment, unresolved issues and yet the definite longing. I loved Sai's countenance when she spoke to Virat -- her dilemma was visible. She couldn't conceal the fact that a part of her definitely wishes she could go back to him. She is in love but she has made a 'practical' decision because she still does not know if that part of her which wants to be with this man is exactly the part that he is seeking too... I don't think Virat's apology was able to convince her that he too has fallen in love with her. It did come across more as regret and although his words were significant, Sai did not seem to want to give in as expected.

"Tum meri Patni ho", "Mera Ghar tumhara Ghar hai, tumhara haqq hai" -- it must have hurt her deep -- the HAQ is what she never had and was never supposed to desire. It was the 'umeed' she was never supposed to have but today, 'main pati hoon tumhara' was standing before her with folded hands to speak of how he does not wish his 'darr' to win over his 'umeed'.

The spiteful "Why didn't you think of my Haq earlier" was a wife's cry. My heart went out to her at that moment and of course, Sai did not disappoint with the best friend taunt but Virat's "main aaj Kuch Nahi bolunga" was as ambiguous as it has always been...

His 'tum mere liye Kuch bhi ho Sakti ho par bojh nahi' was also weighted as was her 'aap aazaad hain' -- yes he has broken the promise and there is no way he can go back to it. But I have a problem with this entire sequence and I might be in absolute minority:

I did not like it that Virat is the only one being turned into the wrong doer as far as their relationship is concerned.

Overall, Virat took the right approach because he was the one who needed to offer the bigger apology -- taking the blame for his own actions instead of shifting it on someone else. It was he who was blinded and then it did not matter how any body else instigated him. While forgiveness can only get you that chance to regain trust, rebuilding trust with someone who has been deeply hurt is not easy. It is true that broken trust is like broken glass: even if one tries to put it together, it will never be the same as before. The cracks, even if you fill it with gold like the Japanese do, will serve as a reminder of the damage it once went through. Although how you put it back together will make a difference in the final outcome -- the cracks can be filled with utmost care and blended into a new design that only someone who knows will be able to recognise as a crack.

While Sai is absolutely right in rejecting the apology at this moment, I can't help but ask a question that has been bothering me -- we have discussed it earlier and dismissed a lot of it due to the loose plot that was being served. But let me ask now: Virat's act of throwing Sai out without giving her a hearing in the middle of the night is unjustifiable. She should rightfully send him back for breaking her trust, abandoning her, humiliating her in front of his family and allowing everyone else to humiliate her, keeping her hungry and depriving her of access to her own belongings in his fit of rage. That after she has been through so much in her own life and because of the expectations from her to put up with a grudging family.

But, hasn't the trust been broken both ways. Why is there no mention even of how wrong it was on her part to have a mentally unstable member of his family elope with a man, who had nothing to prove his innocence and didn't even try. While she can be upset and decide to not return with Virat for his behaviour, doesn't he deserve at least an acknowledgement about the fact that she did not do it entirely right by taking a unilateral decision when she knew that all she needed to do was to convince him and it would need time -- she did not want to wait because of an inexplicable reason. But all Virat needed was the proof to side with her again, as he is doing now -- not just out of his guilt but because he was never against the union of Devyani and Pulkit for any other reason except the suspicion cast on Pulkit's integrity.

We (me included) always speak of Virat's unchanging habits that are detrimental to their relationship -- his constant changing sides and rage allowing people to cross their line with his wife. But isn't it also true that Sai does not change her ways and we all accept that it is her nature and good intentions. Be it her being adamant about trapping Amey on her own, despite him clearly telling her to leave it to him, being confrontational where it can be avoided (lunch at Pulkit's) or now the fact that all she needed to do was to be patient and get him on her side instead of taking extreme steps. Because we believe in all is well that ends well, as a general rule, we feel Sai's actions were not as wrong but well, the fact is that it was -- that she did it without trying to win over the sane voices just because she was bound by the promise to Pulkit. She does need to apologise for her action to Virat -- doing it in her own thoughts is not enough.

Virat's act is the bigger wrong at the moment because all is well with Devyani but that does not take away from the fact that Sai did break Virat's trust too -- Didn't you trust me even so much as to give me one more chance to be convinced. I did not have any bad intentions just like you -- I never had any ill intentions. It is just that our temperaments are different one another.

We know habits die hard. Virat has committed the same mistakes many times but so has Sai. And by condoning her act of making Devyani elope without giving it enough time -- or it being the only way out kind of a situation -- is it not true that Sai is also likely to make similar mistakes again if she is in the same situation.

Unfortunately, the focus has shifted only to Virat's apology to Sai -- which is definitely warranted but what about the damage that Sai has also caused to the relationship. It is not the time for Virat to ask the questions because between the two of them, he is at bigger fault and to correct it he has to refrain from blaming her for anything but frankly, Usha maushi's "Sai be Devyani ke liye Kitna Kiya" is slightly misplaced today. Usha, at least in their alone moment had to reprimand Sai for landing in this kind of mess without taking Virat into confidence. If a wife deserves the respect that she should have in a relationship the husband deserves it too.

I definitely don't want Sai to return to Chakram niwas with Virat right now, not until he has repented and answered all her questions and corrected the mistakes that have ebbed away the emotional bond they had begun to share. Not until he addresses the biggest issue between them-- the unauthorised access that third persons have. Not until he has explicitly stated that he wants her as his wife. But I do want Sai to realise her mistake instead of sitting on a high horse. For me, Sai's growth is as important as it is to see Virat repent. There are mean things she has told Virat during their previous fights too but never apologised. When only one of the two partners expresses regret and apology, the relationship seems like a table which is standing on two legs suspended in the air... It can fall with a thud again and cause everything that it holds to scatter around.

Often, when a couple fights, the major question is: Should the one offended give the other a chance? Is it easy to rebuild trust that has been broken? But there are circumstances when both the spouses have played equal role in breaking the glass snow ball of their relationship -- how does one decide who should be called the offended one and who should be the offender?

I spoke about physical intimacy yesterday. Look at their interaction today and you'd be able to tell if they were in a conjugal marriage, it would have been a more honest conversation about what ails both of them -- because the closeness gives each of the spouses that right to demand answers.

That last look she gave him before joining her hands was such a giveaway and his 'main kahin Nahi jaane wala...' poor souls -- one trapped in unwavering sense of justice and another in between two sharp swords of righteousness and expectations. It just makes me go back to that one sentence from Jiv Rangla which fits them so aptly

Ek aabhal daghaala, tyaala rudicha Itala

Mazhya lakh saajna, hi kaakdachi todh maal Tu

Meaning : An independent free cloud in the vast sky has been caught in the shackles of archaic traditions (read toxicity here). You, my beloved are the only one who can break this chain and stop this circle.

That last dialogue that ended today's episode is golden advice from Barkha Raani -- jab zidd jeetne lage toh samajh jai ki rishta haar Raha hai... Sai and Virat must take it because it is definitely a free advice as of now! 😅 Baad me pocket pe heavy ho Sakta hai 😂😂

It's a busy day today and I'm sorry I couldn't respond to all those lovely thoughts yesterday. I shall try to do so today but would love to hear your thoughts for sure.

Have a great evening ahead and stay safe 😘😘💕💕❤️❤️☕☕🤗🤗🤗

Love you all

❤️J


PS : Vahini Aarti ki thaali lekar Kahan jaane wali hai we all know. Will it happen tonight (ghum time) or a few days later? I don't think she's going to be able to contain her joy on finding out that Zindagi has given her one more mauka now... 😂

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Posted: 5 years ago
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as usual awesome!! I was waiting for this!



I am with you in the minority that questions why only virat's mistake is being highlighted, no matter what sai did, even if it is right, she broke his trust.

He was hurt because of his trust was broken and no that does not defend his actions neither am siding with him because his mistake is clearly the bigger one, but that should not be the reason for us to overlook Sai's impulsive behavior and her mistake.......


woh kehte hain na aadat se majboor, this holds true for both honestly... they both have these habits that they need to work on. The trust was broken by both, it was not just virat who hurt her, but somewhere sai also hurt him.


We usually see from one person's perspective but it is necessary to put ourselves in virat's shoes for once and think if he did not feel hurt or what would have our reaction been.

I did a whole analysis on how anger affects the brain and it is very true, scientifically proven.



As for Sai going back, like you said even i don't want it to happen so quickly, the two of them need to spend a little time apart going over the past and trying to see the pattern of incidents and the outcome. Virat needs to draw the line for good with his so-called best friend whose intentions are not so dhoodh ka dhula as we know...


They need to break the shackles of the vaadas, zimmedari etc to build a relationship on love.


and today will be what will push virat to take that step.......


I am looking forward to seeing how they handle this and the reunion to be very honest! itni doori bardash nahi hoti 😆

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Hello Janki di! Awesome post. I'm always in minority here who wishes Sai to say sorry to Virat for breaking his trust and it was my concern from the day Pulkit track started. Because I knew Sai never apologised for her behaviour. She needs to know how trust from her side is also an important ingredient in their relationship to make it strong. I hope they show Sai apologising for her mistakes too.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I remember writing somewhere that Sai's mistake was overshadowed by Virat's mistake. His mistake was so big and harsh that we forgot Sai was wrong too or at least we hardly discussed about it. I hated it how she was so adamant that Pulkit was right. She didn't have any proof of his innocence apart from her instinct. Instead of trying to reason with Virat and maybe try to get more evidence, she was fighting with him. That's why he wasn't ready to listen to her. Then instead of waiting for the reinvestigation, she decided to elope his sister. She also refused to tell him the truth about the kidnapping and expected him to trust her or listen to her. Isn't it better for Virat to know the truth about his family so that he doesn't get fooled again than let him live in a house full of lies, planning, plotting, criminal activities ? 😕

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Hi Janaki

I am not with you, ( whether it is minority or majority..I don’t know and it is about Sai’s apology.)


Sai always know that she is proceeding further without Virat’s awareness and she never wanted to do so. I won’t discuss the reasons for her step to unite Devkit about which I have hundred percent clarity not because I am a Sai Joshi admirer.


The situation today did not offer scope to discuss Devyani issue in detail for both Virat and Sai because they are dealing with the more important,devastating and heartbreaking issue of their lives..the break up or separation whatever we call it.. Virat spelled it day before but Sai arrived at that conclusion after pondering over,in her words practically thinking about the solution.


Both husband and wife got stuck with that heart breaking reality that they have to live separately by fate and by their own actions.


Virat did not prolong the Pakhi issue which is raised by Sai May be because he felt that it should be discussed in the privacy of their own space but not before spectators.


So there are issues that need to be discussed and clarified by both of them and today is not the day. It was not because Sai did not want to apologise,it was because the stress is more on their union or break up.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Good evening Sisterhood 🌻🌻🌻

The episode was indeed beautifully executed -- the shame, guilt, hurt, resentment, unresolved issues and yet the definite longing. I loved Sai's countenance when she spoke to Virat -- her dilemma was visible. She couldn't conceal the fact that a part of her definitely wishes she could go back to him. She is in love but she has made a 'practical' decision because she still does not know if that part of her which wants to be with this man is exactly the part that he is seeking too... I don't think Virat's apology was able to convince her that he too has fallen in love with her. It did come across more as regret and although his words were significant, Sai did not seem to want to give in as expected.

"Tum meri Patni ho", "Mera Ghar tumhara Ghar hai, tumhara haqq hai" -- it must have hurt her deep -- the HAQ is what she never had and was never supposed to desire. It was the 'umeed' she was never supposed to have but today, 'main pati hoon tumhara' was standing before her with folded hands to speak of how he does not wish his 'darr' to win over his 'umeed'.

The spiteful "Why didn't you think of my Haq earlier" was a wife's cry. My heart went out to her at that moment and of course, Sai did not disappoint with the best friend taunt but Virat's "main aaj Kuch Nahi bolunga" was as ambiguous as it has always been...

His 'tum mere liye Kuch bhi ho Sakti ho par bojh nahi' was also weighted as was her 'aap aazaad hain' -- yes he has broken the promise and there is no way he can go back to it. But I have a problem with this entire sequence and I might be in absolute minority:

I did not like it that Virat is the only one being turned into the wrong doer as far as their relationship is concerned.

Overall, Virat took the right approach because he was the one who needed to offer the bigger apology -- taking the blame for his own actions instead of shifting it on someone else. It was he who was blinded and then it did not matter how any body else instigated him. While forgiveness can only get you that chance to regain trust, rebuilding trust with someone who has been deeply hurt is not easy. It is true that broken trust is like broken glass: even if one tries to put it together, it will never be the same as before. The cracks, even if you fill it with gold like the Japanese do, will serve as a reminder of the damage it once went through. Although how you put it back together will make a difference in the final outcome -- the cracks can be filled with utmost care and blended into a new design that only someone who knows will be able to recognise as a crack.

While Sai is absolutely right in rejecting the apology at this moment, I can't help but ask a question that has been bothering me -- we have discussed it earlier and dismissed a lot of it due to the loose plot that was being served. But let me ask now: Virat's act of throwing Sai out without giving her a hearing in the middle of the night is unjustifiable. She should rightfully send him back for breaking her trust, abandoning her, humiliating her in front of his family and allowing everyone else to humiliate her, keeping her hungry and depriving her of access to her own belongings in his fit of rage. That after she has been through so much in her own life and because of the expectations from her to put up with a grudging family.

But, hasn't the trust been broken both ways. Why is there no mention even of how wrong it was on her part to have a mentally unstable member of his family elope with a man, who had nothing to prove his innocence and didn't even try. While she can be upset and decide to not return with Virat for his behaviour, doesn't he deserve at least an acknowledgement about the fact that she did not do it entirely right by taking a unilateral decision when she knew that all she needed to do was to convince him and it would need time -- she did not want to wait because of an inexplicable reason. But all Virat needed was the proof to side with her again, as he is doing now -- not just out of his guilt but because he was never against the union of Devyani and Pulkit for any other reason except the suspicion cast on Pulkit's integrity.

We (me included) always speak of Virat's unchanging habits that are detrimental to their relationship -- his constant changing sides and rage allowing people to cross their line with his wife. But isn't it also true that Sai does not change her ways and we all accept that it is her nature and good intentions. Be it her being adamant about trapping Amey on her own, despite him clearly telling her to leave it to him, being confrontational where it can be avoided (lunch at Pulkit's) or now the fact that all she needed to do was to be patient and get him on her side instead of taking extreme steps. Because we believe in all is well that ends well, as a general rule, we feel Sai's actions were not as wrong but well, the fact is that it was -- that she did it without trying to win over the sane voices just because she was bound by the promise to Pulkit. She does need to apologise for her action to Virat -- doing it in her own thoughts is not enough.

Virat's act is the bigger wrong at the moment because all is well with Devyani but that does not take away from the fact that Sai did break Virat's trust too -- Didn't you trust me even so much as to give me one more chance to be convinced. I did not have any bad intentions just like you -- I never had any ill intentions. It is just that our temperaments are different one another.

We know habits die hard. Virat has committed the same mistakes many times but so has Sai. And by condoning her act of making Devyani elope without giving it enough time -- or it being the only way out kind of a situation -- is it not true that Sai is also likely to make similar mistakes again if she is in the same situation.

Unfortunately, the focus has shifted only to Virat's apology to Sai -- which is definitely warranted but what about the damage that Sai has also caused to the relationship. It is not the time for Virat to ask the questions because between the two of them, he is at bigger fault and to correct it he has to refrain from blaming her for anything but frankly, Usha maushi's "Sai be Devyani ke liye Kitna Kiya" is slightly misplaced today. Usha, at least in their alone moment had to reprimand Sai for landing in this kind of mess without taking Virat into confidence. If a wife deserves the respect that she should have in a relationship the husband deserves it too.

I definitely don't want Sai to return to Chakram niwas with Virat right now, not until he has repented and answered all her questions and corrected the mistakes that have ebbed away the emotional bond they had begun to share. Not until he addresses the biggest issue between them-- the unauthorised access that third persons have. Not until he has explicitly stated that he wants her as his wife. But I do want Sai to realise her mistake instead of sitting on a high horse. For me, Sai's growth is as important as it is to see Virat repent. There are mean things she has told Virat during their previous fights too but never apologised. When only one of the two partners expresses regret and apology, the relationship seems like a table which is standing on two legs suspended in the air... It can fall with a thud again and cause everything that it holds to scatter around.

Often, when a couple fights, the major question is: Should the one offended give the other a chance? Is it easy to rebuild trust that has been broken? But there are circumstances when both the spouses have played equal role in breaking the glass snow ball of their relationship -- how does one decide who should be called the offended one and who should be the offender?

I spoke about physical intimacy yesterday. Look at their interaction today and you'd be able to tell if they were in a conjugal marriage, it would have been a more honest conversation about what ails both of them -- because the closeness gives each of the spouses that right to demand answers.

That last look she gave him before joining her hands was such a giveaway and his 'main kahin Nahi jaane wala...' poor souls -- one trapped in unwavering sense of justice and another in between two sharp swords of righteousness and expectations. It just makes me go back to that one sentence from Jiv Rangla which fits them so aptly

Ek aabhal daghaala, tyaala rudicha Itala

Mazhya lakh saajna, hi kaakdachi todh maal Tu

Meaning : An independent free cloud in the vast sky has been caught in the shackles of archaic traditions (read toxicity here). You, my beloved are the only one who can break this chain and stop this circle.

That last dialogue that ended today's episode is golden advice from Barkha Raani -- jab zidd jeetne lage toh samajh jai ki rishta haar Raha hai... Sai and Virat must take it because it is definitely a free advice as of now! 😅 Baad me pocket pe heavy ho Sakta hai 😂😂

It's a busy day today and I'm sorry I couldn't respond to all those lovely thoughts yesterday. I shall try to do so today but would love to hear your thoughts for sure.

Have a great evening ahead and stay safe 😘😘💕💕❤️❤️☕☕🤗🤗🤗

Love you all

❤️J


PS : Vahini Aarti ki thaali lekar Kahan jaane wali hai we all know. Will it happen tonight (ghum time) or a few days later? I don't think she's going to be able to contain her joy on finding out that Zindagi has given her one more mauka now... 😂

An awesome post once again. You said it right. Why is only Virat blamed for everything? Why should only Virat apologise? Just because his mistakes are bigger doesn't mean she's blameless. Atleast Virat apologises upon realising his mistakes but Sayi never does. Why noone points finger at Sayi? She too makes mistakes, so why her mistakes are pushed under the carpet? Why can't she own up her mistakes and apologise? Is it fair? If Virat is adamant then Sayi too is not far behind. She takes desicions in haste and then blames Virat for his actions. If we expect Virat to change then same goes with Sayi too. Each time she makes a mistake she very conveniently forget all about it and goes Scot free without an apology. But, keeps on reminding Virat about his mistakes over and over again. Rules should be same for both.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Major fault lies with Virat for not only is he much older but a cop.

Again the below is only my personal take on the situation

My perspective is sairat are at best roommates. The trust has never been built to the extent that she trusts him with everything.

Do u need to trust the other just because u are married ? According to sai it's a deal and not really a relationship. In the toxic household he has always asked her to adjust and at times shown MCP attitude.

Sai is a woman at the threshold of womanhood who is just 18 at that age when u have grown in a nuclear household with a broad-minded father. The upbringing is so different . She has always had the freedom to say what she wants. At that age to loose a sole parent and then move toToxic Household where u are unloved by most.

Every relationship is give and take. Trust and respect is earned and not given

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I’m with you on this. Although Sai didn’t do the greater wrong this time round - it couldn’t have gone the other way if it was later found that Pulkit was not right for Devi.


I agree that Usha Maushi should be guiding Sai and pointing out that this was not something she should have done without any consultation with anyone.

Whilst we know Sai’s intentions are right it’s her impulsiveness to get things done quickly that always get her into trouble.

Ultimately at this moment in time Virat should definitely repent for his actions.

In addition I wish Sai would stop keeping secrets from Virat - the kidnapping and the involvement of the rest of the family. If she feels she can’t live with someone who doesn’t trust her - why should Virat trust her , keeping secrets to protect someone might be noble but...these secrets are very different.

I think someone in another response mentioned that how can Virat protect himself and learn if his family’s true nature - if he is never exposed to their real criminal side. Let’s park Onkar for the moment.


This is where I might be in the minority - I want Sai back in CN quickly. I don’t like them apart

Reading this it sounds like I’m supporting Virat and blaming Sai. Not the case at all - just pointing out trust is two way street.


Sai needs to learn to go at Ghum speed.


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Posted: 5 years ago
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Hey janki......

Am in that minority too.....sai should definitely acknowledge her mistake of broking his trust too.....I think till now she doesn't have any relationship that required trust.....it is just her aaba and maushi where she doesn't need trust....

Now she is in new relationship where only trust is needed.....she expected him to trust her after her return from wedding .....but he crushed her trust very badly.....he didn't gave a chance to explain her act.....there she forget she too broke his trust.....and she sacrificed her marriage for Devi tai..,..

As till now sai is not in mindset of returning to him.....or feeling hurt by losing him.....bcoz she knew one day this has to happen.....as she said to virat today.....that is only the reason she is not realising that she too did hurt him.....

I think barkha will do the work for us....making sai realize where she went wrong.....what she did that he behaved with her soo badly.,...hope we get a apology for virat by sai when she return to him after he gets shot......

Btw it feels Soo soo good having u back......

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I found it amusing that this is the only tv show where the male-lead cries more than the female lead!!!


And in this episode, IPS babu pulled out every weapon/trick he had to convince Sai and she flat-out rejected/decimated every single one of them. He said: Main tumhara pati hoon (3 times in fact as per my count), tumhara ghar, tumhara haq, jo mera hai woh tumhara hai, aai ke liye. When all of these failed, apni padhai ke liye. When even that failed, the last resort: his tears (not that it was an act).

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