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Posted: 4 years ago
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Sadly, there is noone apart from Virat who can actually tell her where she's wrong. UM she treats her like her pesky mother. Aai i don't know. Aai just feels if Sai and Virat get together, all is well.

Virat has get past his own insecurities and his ego to understand her, and explain to her, where she went wrong.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Awesome as always, and we missed you every day 😊


This was never about the family i guess and it was all about Sai - Virat, thats the route the track has taken.

I will not even mention the investigation or what he should have done as a Police officer, because its like breaking your own head for logic.


But the only thing is, he could ask Omkar why did he do this and upon listening he gives him and his family a warning.

Why wouldn't he give the same chance to Sai, when she was trying to talk to him, inspite of his mother telling him that take the decision in the morning not now. The only thing I could decipher was he thought she betrayed him (she did lie to him and she was wrong) and that was enough for his anger to take over. Agree that he got instigated by his family but to an extent that he threw that person out of the house who he says he cannot live apart from. He said this in the holi episode and today as well.


Also i think, he still hasn't understand what has he done to her. Hopefully this time at least he understands her.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: fatssrilanka

Yes, so true. It is the need of the hour. Else it will get more difficult in the future. I don't know why nobody points out her mistakes. Ashwini Ayi has all the time to point out Virat's mistakes but not for Sayi. Hope when she returns to Chavan Niwas she tells her where she went wrong.


I agree with both of you. As I said in my post too, both need to recognise how they have damaged their relationship. I said this even on the day he held her hand and they had the near-separation --she was being unreasonable in the beginning, he over-reacts once he is angry and gets aggressive and then her mistake gets overshadowed by his exaggerated reaction. The bottomline is that both are at fault. Both of them have taken each other for granted in many ways. They need to have a conversation. He needs to answer her questions, she needs to listen not just "hear". She needs to apologize for many things yet. A lot of us are waiting for her apology too. I don't agree with the fact that because she was guilty throughout the wedding and she "apologised" in her mind, it is an apology enough --- by that standard, even Virat has already apologised, hasn't he? But it is not enough. Similarly, she has to own up her mistakes and correct the things about her that anger him because they are actually annoying -- just like he must change things between them and in context of the people meddling with their relationship. They have to grow together. They are both flawed. I am all for both individuals making that effort to make the relationship work. It is not one person's task

Sai lacks patience and gets into confrontations and he lacks the courage to take a conflict head on -- that is the basic difference between them and it will perhaps remain a point of conflict between them until they reach a middle path to amicably resolving issues -- many couples have such personality traits that just do not match. This time, she crossed the line by taking a unilateral decision about a family member, who happens to be the daughter of the matriarch who everyone is accountable to. It's because that is her nature. But she did not spare a thought for what position it would leave Virat in and then the consequence on their relationship. I said the other day on Nitu's post -- he threw her out more in order to live up to the expectation his grudging "family" had from him in the case and not from his actual worry for Devyani.. if he really was worried for Devyani, he would not have thought of sleeping the night and going in the morning to "rescue" her.. đŸ€Ș He was enraged when he was instigated with the thoughts that his "WIFE" had betrayed him and it made him recall the moment of intimacy they were about to share and his assumption that she was not in that moment with him but conspiring in the guise of being lovey dovey, which was not true. His act of throwing her out was wrong on all counts -- not the act of wanting to break ties. If he had done it more gracefully, allowing her to enter, speak and take her belongings, it would have not caused this much damage. Not to say that it would not damage her but the way he did it was the humiliation of the worst kind, especially allowing the five venom spewing members to say whatever they wished to her face.

So, no, although I tilt towards Sai and I strongly feel she is the one who got a raw deal in the marriage more than Virat, I do not condone her ego where she does not apologise to him for things she should.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: scarlett22

Sadly, there is noone apart from Virat who can actually tell her where she's wrong. UM she treats her like her pesky mother. Aai i don't know. Aai just feels if Sai and Virat get together, all is well.

Virat has get past his own insecurities and his ego to understand her, and explain to her, where she went wrong.

Correct me if I'm wrong.


I agree with you. That's a bingo point!

Both of them can hold mirror to each other's face. Virat is the only one who can tell Sai where she goes wrong and she does introspect on his words because even if she doesn't admit it, his validation matters to her. It happens to anyone when you look out for the affirmation from the one closest to you-- a spouse.

Similarly, Sai is the one who can hold a mirror to Virat in many matters (For matters related to Sai, it is Aai and even Mohit now -- in fact I loved how Mohit was the one who first asked whether he is going to get Sai or not).

Ashwini's end goal is to have Sai and Virat together but the fact is also that Virat allows Ashwini to be treated badly and ends up joining that gang whenever she doesn't sing in tune with him. Sai does that shutting up of Usha Maushi all the time so yes, Virat to Sai and Sai to Virat to show the mirror regarding their respective mother figure/mother.

Virat has to get past his fear of rejection and speak his heart to her... everything else will fall into place

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: scarlett22

Lovely post! I am so happy to see you back in action.


Pace wise, direction wise somehow I found yesterday and today, lacking in intensity. I don't know if it was deliberate. The rage that Virat always shows against Sai is not there towards his family or towards Pakhi. For example: one question, Omi ki sazaa kya honi chahiye, if not jail. Since he keeps saying Sai's sazaa was wrongful. What if he never found proof of her truth? He was willing to lose her, without giving her one moment to speak about her actions or even apologise for her actions. Which she was all set to do.


So for me, his repentance was incomplete and conditional. But not to worry, I have no doubt Sai will ask him all the right questions. 😆. I realise that's why I keep coming back to watch. Sai will ask him the questions that hopefully will make him introspect.

i also have a huge problem with him not standing up for his mother. Which means his inner core has not changed. He has not understood what is going on in that house of his, with his mother. Even a PP can taunt Aai and she has to bear it. This in front of him.

They better draw his redemption arc carefully. 😡

My heart went out to Sai. She is facing a second loss of someone she could call her own. However, who will tell her she needs to curb her impulsiveness to get her way. She has broken down this time because somewhere because of her own trust issues, she has lost Virat. Hopefully, they will show her vulnerable side too. They made a start today. Her strength is still her father, based on her promise made to him, she will get up, dust herself and move on. But this time, not without a huge sense of loss.


@bold: Where has his repentance even started? He thinks she is going to let go of this so easily but she won't. Not until she feels the pang herself. He will repent when he returns without her. But yes, Sai will ask him the right questions about the family but somewhere she also knows he won't do anything because his "hurt" on finding out about his family's misdeeds was one of the reasons she stayed mum, isn't it.

More than that: I want her to taunt him about his Mallika-e-Maturity and hand him a free pass to sit with his best friend and exorcise the "bura sapna" he has just woken up from. She should use each and every dialogue he said to her and allowed that venomous vixen to speak to her before she asks him to leave. All said and done, even when enraged and hopping mad, a husband cannot allow a third person to spit at his wife. Period.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nja91

I was waiting for him to ask them to stay away from Sai too after telling them to stay away devi and treat pulkit as SIL.


When he said "aur" I thought he was going to say leave Sai and me alone but he said "Damaad wali izzat dena" and the shameless gang had almost no reaction . đŸ€Ș He is bad at reading body language too? Kaise clear kiya isne first attempt mein IPS. Ideally, you can't even move a hairpin from one hairstrand to the other without catching the eye of a cop who's suspecting you đŸ€”

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav


I agree with both of you. As I said in my post too, both need to recognise how they have damaged their relationship. I said this even on the day he held her hand and they had the near-separation --she was being unreasonable in the beginning, he over-reacts once he is angry and gets aggressive and then her mistake gets overshadowed by his exaggerated reaction. The bottomline is that both are at fault. Both of them have taken each other for granted in many ways. They need to have a conversation. He needs to answer her questions, she needs to listen not just "hear". She needs to apologize for many things yet. A lot of us are waiting for her apology too. I don't agree with the fact that because she was guilty throughout the wedding and she "apologised" in her mind, it is an apology enough --- by that standard, even Virat has already apologised, hasn't he? But it is not enough. Similarly, she has to own up her mistakes and correct the things about her that anger him because they are actually annoying -- just like he must change things between them and in context of the people meddling with their relationship. They have to grow together. They are both flawed. I am all for both individuals making that effort to make the relationship work. It is not one person's task

Sai lacks patience and gets into confrontations and he lacks the courage to take a conflict head on -- that is the basic difference between them and it will perhaps remain a point of conflict between them until they reach a middle path to amicably resolving issues -- many couples have such personality traits that just do not match. This time, she crossed the line by taking a unilateral decision about a family member, who happens to be the daughter of the matriarch who everyone is accountable to. It's because that is her nature. But she did not spare a thought for what position it would leave Virat in and then the consequence on their relationship. I said the other day on Nitu's post -- he threw her out more in order to live up to the expectation his grudging "family" had from him in the case and not from his actual worry for Devyani.. if he really was worried for Devyani, he would not have thought of sleeping the night and going in the morning to "rescue" her.. đŸ€Ș He was enraged when he was instigated with the thoughts that his "WIFE" had betrayed him and it made him recall the moment of intimacy they were about to share and his assumption that she was not in that moment with him but conspiring in the guise of being lovey dovey, which was not true. His act of throwing her out was wrong on all counts -- not the act of wanting to break ties. If he had done it more gracefully, allowing her to enter, speak and take her belongings, it would have not caused this much damage. Not to say that it would not damage her but the way he did it was the humiliation of the worst kind, especially allowing the five venom spewing members to say whatever they wished to her face.

So, no, although I tilt towards Sai and I strongly feel she is the one who got a raw deal in the marriage more than Virat, I do not condone her ego where she does not apologise to him for things she should.

true janki and that what I feel, everyone was saying she wasn’t given an opportunity she was but she did not tell anything coz of the promise is it Virat’s fault,

I get she had gone through a lot but whatever she did, did she even take time process the information, her impulsiveness and impatience is the problem to cap it all when she is blamed she try to justify her actions no doubt she have best of the intentions but she doesn’t stop, she kept her point in front of Virat, Virat told he will investigate, she could have taken Virat in to confidence of not revealing anything to anyone

Foe the sake of not giving false hope to anyone especially devi and then what she did while going to gc she could have done the same and Virat would eventually know the truth, but nahi she has to become jhasi ki rani and do everything on her own.

virat he lacks reasoning, he is still I need to please everyone hence when his wife says anything he goes extreme with his wife just to make sure his fam isn’t thinking less of him, he being an IPS is truly the same reason to earn a reputation in family,


today so many times kaku his baba insulted aai and he being the son dint utter a word, dint tried to stop the.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Hi dear, sorry i don't know your name. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I agree with you about intimacy. To me, emotional intimacy is more important than physical intimacy but as you said, when it is a marriage where the two partners have come together not exactly out of their 'choice' but because of an arrangement of match or circumstances, the work that needs to go into it is immense from both ends. I have previously analysed their intimacy at various points-- especially when Virat had his anger outbursts because of his insecurity and his jealousy stemming from the fact that he was beginning to seek intimacy from her-- not physical at that point but emotional. During the Holi celebrations, he actually made the move towards physical intimacy and she was a willing partner too. And then this fiasco happened. The trust deficit that they have in each other --Virat thinking that he means nothing to her without acknowledging that he is yet to tell her that the barriers are non-existent in as many words as he used and repeated to place them, and Sai thinking she means nothing to him because of his silence mostly -- would not be there if they had forged the physical intimacy. Spouses do share more trust and oneness when they are physically closer -- the language of touch is something.

Actually, I did not ask that question right now but I did have it in my mind -- would Sai have also gone to the lengths that she did to unite Devyani and Pulkit, without waiting for Virat to join and convince him, if they had a conjugal marriage. I don't think she would have done it so impulsively -- she would have done it had Virat remained adamant despite knowing the facts.

I have said many times during the build-up to the whole elopement of Devyani that I do not agree with Sai doing it behind Virat's back. I said it three days ago on Nitu's post too. I asked the exact questions as you did in @bold -- what if Sai's trust in Pulkit is misplaced. But it is a thing of the past now and thankfully she wasn't wrong. I still don't think either of the two gave any importance to their spouse -- they lack basic trust in each other. Virat's rage in kicking her out was of a betrayed spouse overcome with unfathomable craze because he thought she was fooling him to execute her plan; Sai did not trust him enough to wait and give him another chance to understand what she was trying to explain so she put her relationship at stake and did not expect this reaction.

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His rage was because he believed she played with his feelings! I share similar opinion. And sai took him too much for granted 😀


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav


I agree with both of you. As I said in my post too, both need to recognise how they have damaged their relationship. I said this even on the day he held her hand and they had the near-separation --she was being unreasonable in the beginning, he over-reacts once he is angry and gets aggressive and then her mistake gets overshadowed by his exaggerated reaction. The bottomline is that both are at fault. Both of them have taken each other for granted in many ways. They need to have a conversation. He needs to answer her questions, she needs to listen not just "hear". She needs to apologize for many things yet. A lot of us are waiting for her apology too. I don't agree with the fact that because she was guilty throughout the wedding and she "apologised" in her mind, it is an apology enough --- by that standard, even Virat has already apologised, hasn't he? But it is not enough. Similarly, she has to own up her mistakes and correct the things about her that anger him because they are actually annoying -- just like he must change things between them and in context of the people meddling with their relationship. They have to grow together. They are both flawed. I am all for both individuals making that effort to make the relationship work. It is not one person's task

Sai lacks patience and gets into confrontations and he lacks the courage to take a conflict head on -- that is the basic difference between them and it will perhaps remain a point of conflict between them until they reach a middle path to amicably resolving issues -- many couples have such personality traits that just do not match. This time, she crossed the line by taking a unilateral decision about a family member, who happens to be the daughter of the matriarch who everyone is accountable to. It's because that is her nature. But she did not spare a thought for what position it would leave Virat in and then the consequence on their relationship. I said the other day on Nitu's post -- he threw her out more in order to live up to the expectation his grudging "family" had from him in the case and not from his actual worry for Devyani.. if he really was worried for Devyani, he would not have thought of sleeping the night and going in the morning to "rescue" her.. đŸ€Ș He was enraged when he was instigated with the thoughts that his "WIFE" had betrayed him and it made him recall the moment of intimacy they were about to share and his assumption that she was not in that moment with him but conspiring in the guise of being lovey dovey, which was not true. His act of throwing her out was wrong on all counts -- not the act of wanting to break ties. If he had done it more gracefully, allowing her to enter, speak and take her belongings, it would have not caused this much damage. Not to say that it would not damage her but the way he did it was the humiliation of the worst kind, especially allowing the five venom spewing members to say whatever they wished to her face.

So, no, although I tilt towards Sai and I strongly feel she is the one who got a raw deal in the marriage more than Virat, I do not condone her ego where she does not apologise to him for things she should.

You are absolutely correct. I admit both are wrong and I'm not defending Virat either but the fact is Sayi doesn't accept her faults. She's always defensive towards her actions. I hope we get to see an apologetic Sayi in the future episodes.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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was easy for Virat to be instigated by the family enough to throw her out without giving her a hearing even. I believe he did not plan to throw her out when he came home. He decided to do it when he was reminded that she had defied him, disrespected his love for her and planned the betrayal. The distrust that both Sai and Virat have in each other definitely stems from the distance between them -- the lacking physical intimacy plays a huge role in further distancing spouses when they are in disagreement principally and emotionally. Physical intimacy gives the relationship a sense of security and also makes the trust deeper. Now, I don't believe that love can only be manifested with physical closeness but it plays a role in making the relationship stronger becayse it brings in more attachment and responsibility towards one another -- had the two of them been in a normal, conjugal marriage, would it have been so easy for Virat to shut the door on the face of his wife in the dead of the night without even hearing her out? No matter what the provocation and no matter the reason behind the rage -- would he have a reason to believe that she betrayed him and did not want to be in the marriage?






Interesting thought ... as I told u earlier.. they both have let others get in the marriage .. today episode I found it distasteful that pakhi could still question virat why is he bringing sayi back ..

Kaku , Sonali all had a say whether she can come back and virat listened to them and then told them she was right that’s why bringing her back

Is sayi Virat’s cousin .. that the whole family can have a say whether she can come back

in a marriage.. the family is important but cousins wife and aunty can tell the husband why he can’t bring the wife back


it is too distasteful ..it did not sit with my sensibilities.. and this is a case when the spouse is a high ranking civil servant not at all dependent on his family



Virat was overly lenient with his family and overplayed his power on sayi .. husband is not ur master ..yes couples fight and get dirty .. but when u allow outsiders to come and hit on your wife .. you are breaking the vows you took to protect n cherish ..

Many things have been broken .. in this relationship.. they both need time to retrospect whether they want to get back in the relationship.. not fir any promise .. virat can protect sayi by becoming her guardian and putting her in hostel .. his mom and pulkit can help him ably .. the promise will be better done by this..

if he’s bringing her back it has to be as a wife and Sai had to decide why she would consider coming back ..
To save more people .. to take swipes at kaku n pakhi .. let them be .. why should Sai bother ..

Devyani has been rescued now she can take a break ..

If Sai n virat had a conjugal relationship.. where did they get into that .. Till a 3 rd angle is there .. it would have been even more disgusting.. virat would have sunk in even more lower ..

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