Ep 54: Back to square one - Page 4

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

You know I can't find any justifucation in the way Raghav behaved today. Im not surprised that he hasnt been able to mend his relationships with Amma and Keerthi all these years. On one hand he will do anything under the sun to please them, help them, get their attention, love, forgiveness, the list goes on.. on the other hand he will do things like this- harrass and bully a girl because he can't deal with his own feelings for her.. If things are not right between mother and son, part of the blame and a substantial one at it, lies on Raghav Rao and the ways he has consciously chosen. I cannot and will not accept the notion that Raghav's mother has not given him a fair chance all these years or has been unreasonably harsh with him or that she doesnt want things to get better for good between her and her son. A mother will always want her child's best, even mothers like Sulochana in their own twisted way wont want any harm to come to their child, even if they choose the wrong path. If Raghav had the maturity, he would have found the solution to all his problems, his loneliness, the rift between him and his remaining family, long back. All he needs to do is be the good man that he is deep down, not just for his family but in general.. No mother would want the world to point fingers at her son as the evil man who wrecks people's lives.. How embarrassing it must be for her to have to pull out her full grown adult son behaving like class bully from a room like that? Or to hear Vijay Deshmukh say those things about her son, in a party she was a guest? Yes, I know Vijay has made an opinion about Raghav but Raghav has also contributed in ruining his image in his eyes. All Im trying to say is that most of Raghav's problems are self created.. Like they say, when life gives you lemons, make a kickass lemonade out of it.. Like Pallavi, she is an orphan, a widow, faces challenges everyday but she still is able to see glass half full. She lost her props, her camera and equipment but she still made the most out of whatever resources she had and motivated everyone around her. Raghav Rao needs her in his life to see this- to make a sweet lemonade not a bitter bogus drink! Hope what his mother wasnt able to do all these years, Pallavi will..

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very well said and you have the best analysis of Raghav in fact. But that is his underlying problem. his temper and ego, that overpowers everything and everyone.

For Pallavi, its the otherway around, too much naive and nice. If she had asked aka punished Sulo for maligning her name with the joota abortion thing, I would think she wouldn't have dared to do something like this for Keerthi..

Both have their flaws and will complete each other when together.

Originally posted by: SONIA441

Few small things that caught my mind towards the original plot -

I understand Amma's hatred towards Raghav but I don't understand Kirti's too much. She was younger & thus cannot have understood the whole situation in her teenage years. She should be a lil okay with Raghav. Maybe. Also, when Amma today was scolding Raghav - The camera pans on Raghav's expression & it's actually sad & torturous, when she says the line - 'Jabtak tum Pallavi jaisi masoom ladkiyon ko pareshaan karega na, hum ek chatt ke neeche kabhi nahi rehpaega' - comes back to the original plot of Raghav blaming a girl for his past.

So I think, what happened was, Raghav would have been a brilliant student (as we can already see from his business acumen)but not rich(from what I gather from the initial episodes, his family has been inclined towards arts - earned basic pay, His father played an instrument, Aunty was definitely a classic dance/Bharatnatyam Teacher - ghoonghroos that we keep seeing, and that's how even he knows how to perform well).

His intelligence would have made him friends with certain rich teenager-boys, classic MCP types. The gang would have tried to do something uncivil towards a girl & either Raghav couldn't stop them or wasn't there. So when the FIR/blame game started, they all were able to get out of it with their contacts. All except Raghav who paid the price dearly - the reason why he keeps talking about Money all the time. He lost his father & younger brother. His Mom believes he's capable of something wrong towards a girl while we clearly see till now he's never been disrespectful.

Maybe that's why even Kirti hates him cos it was a girl who had files a case & them being in a small town caused disaster to struck at their homes. Here also, obviously, he believes Pallavi called his Amma & thinks that I always help her & she,a lady, again is trying to demean me specially infront of my Amma & sister. That's gotta hurt real bad.

Ohh! And I also forgot the fact, that he always has only guys around for all his work. Farhad is his best friend cos he can trust a guy. But you don't actually see him employing women in his ventures at all. Ofcourse, it could be related to the fact that his business schemes're risky but also cos he can't trust the gender.

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You may have hit a nail on his family background, but here's my two cents:

RR started Jayati Jewellers along with Ved when he was pretty young, maybe because he is so pressed for money that he wanted to give his family a decent livelihood. Got caught in some tussle due to the drugs drama ~ maybe some girl outsed it and framed Raghav too, and while Ved, maybe an orphan got arrested, Raghav lost his father and brother and along with his mother and sister had to flee, but they went different ways and he got entangled in illegal dealings and became a Don. Amma and Keerti blame him because of the obvious evidence in front of them that it destroyed their family. They blame him because he was at the wrong place at the wrong time and his activities put his entire family at risk.

Amma and Keerti may believe that the other allegations may or may not be true, but can he really compensate for the death, humiliation and everything else that came? He lost hopes on life and love and moreso for a home, and the flings he was shown to have in the first few episodes is a proof on the emotional distance he wishes to put between him and women; because the two most important ones in his life did not believe in him when he wanted them to, when he was wrongly framed.The comment about women may be directed to the Anjali scandal, because it showed him in a bad light, using women for his own gains. Keerti is fairly okay with him, she closes off his contact with Amma coz the sight of him hurt her. Yes, she does come across as rude as a sister, but as a daughter she is doing what she thinks is right for her Amma to be safe too. He has guys for his work coz he has dealings going on 24x7 and it will become difficult for women to be available for something like this at Raghav's beck and call right? Basic morality standards. He employs women in his jewellery showrooms and provides them with a stable income and dignity so he is not really misogynist in that sense per say.

As for Pallavi, her dressing, her nature reminds him of his Amma, someone he identifies with home, he wishes to protect, which is why we see him losing sight of the challenge in front of her sometimes. Him chiding her for her business sense is from the balancesheets of DSE which show the 2-year loss. He obviously does not know about Mandar and Deshmukhs being a separate entity from Pallavi and the family history behind that shop. He was not around or active to know.

Originally posted by: Mihika

I can't comment much on "that girl" wala track because it is clear that Raghav's reputation got maligned due to a girl. It is not always a guys fault. If he believes that some girl did something bad to him in the past it must be true coz the Raghav you see today was not like this from birth. That girl must have done something malicious to Raghav for sure that's the reason for his lack of trust in women. Meanwhile Keerthi, though she was a teenager she was old enough to understand and feel the loss of her family members. Tell me if a mother believes that everything happened due her eldest son, what should the young daughter of the household believe. She too will consider him the only reason for their miseries. And again she was too small when all this happened and along with Raghav she too had to say good bye to her childhood days pretty early and take up the responsibility of her mother and both their lives. Think about the harassment she had to face at such a young age (remember people attacking in flashbacks). Which girl won't blame the person who is believed to be the reason for everything happened to them?

Exactly. Keerti is doing what she thinks is best for her Amma and her own safety too, coz Raghav is entangled in pretty bad stuff. She might seem rude to the viewer, but if we had a family member due to whom we had to grow up early in life, we'd be pretty bitter about that too, no matter what age.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Agree, this is why Keerti is bitter. She not only lost her father and brother at a young age, but has had to watch her mother suffering all these years. I think he has always been a doting brother and she probably berates him for taking that away from her too. Having guys around makes sense because of the type of business he runs and also he runs a boys club, come on. It's in line with his macho image.

They must have had to flee to escape the ire of whatever scandal happened. She does not hate her brother, she just wants that distance coz his dealings threaten their safety. She has not stopped him unless she believes he is wrong, she was pretty okay with his presence until he assumed things about her and Akash or interference w/o proof.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Farhad ko aaj best friend ka tag mil gaya. Don't remember if Raghav ever called him that to his face but him saying that Farhad knew him better than anyone else, felt like a nod to us here! Isn't that what we keep gushing about?

BEST part of the epi for me❤️

I agree with your point of view here too. The plot could be that too 😎 .

What I mean by Raghav not employing women is, I'm yet to see a female in a power position, like even as a manager in his stores. But that could also be because the makers don't show him visiting Jayati Jewels anymore ( also cos the shoot space would be at a different location & they can't visit it during COVID lockdown times much).

It's also true that Keerthi hasn't stopped him unless he's been very wrong Eg:Akash's case.

And yeah, Pallavi's case, I have always understood why he keeps spewing lines like 'Tum auraton ko kuch business nahi karna aata hai' cos it's true. She's naive to the business world as I have stated earlier before too.

I do have one more issue, we keep hearing that he's a Don but I'm yet to see him as one(except for how he dealt with Pallavi in the beginning...what'bt others) . The makers have always shown that he's a businessman through & through. And all businesses require some underhand dealings. That's fine by me. But show some DON type things na else he's just a shrewd & smart businessman, not a Don.😳

Originally posted by: inlieu

He tells Pallavi not to take his words seriously when he's drunk but I remember he was pretty sober when they first agreed on the challenge. Oh yeah, he was drinking.

In that case, what would you call all his ramblings to Farhad in a drunken state? His emotions overflow.

I really don't know how Farhad will react to this and if he will even stick around once the marriage happens. Loyalty aside, he might be there just to support Pallavi because honestly I don't see him siding with Raghav.

I hope after that precap...Farhad may go against him for a while..but that also I m not sure..cause right now only Farhad is the person, who understands him very well, & he won't leave him alone in this condition, when he is most needed by his side..

Farhad from start always seems to support Pallu..so he will sure help her later..

Originally posted by: SONIA441

Few small things that caught my mind towards the original plot -

I understand Amma's hatred towards Raghav but I don't understand Kirti's too much. She was younger & thus cannot have understood the whole situation in her teenage years. She should be a lil okay with Raghav. Maybe.

Also, when Amma today was scolding Raghav - The camera pans on Raghav's expression & it's actually sad & torturous, when she says the line - 'Jabtak tum Pallavi jaisi masoom ladkiyon ko pareshaan karega na, hum ek chatt ke neeche kabhi nahi rehpaega' - comes back to the original plot of Raghav blaming a girl for his past.

So I think, what happened was, Raghav would have been a brilliant student (as we can already see from his business acumen)but not rich(from what I gather from the initial episodes, his family has been inclined towards arts - earned basic pay, His father played an instrument, Aunty was definitely a classic dance/Bharatnatyam Teacher - ghoonghroos that we keep seeing, and that's how even he knows how to perform well).

His intelligence would have made him friends with certain rich teenager-boys, classic MCP types. The gang would have tried to do something uncivil towards a girl & either Raghav couldn't stop them or wasn't there. So when the FIR/blame game started, they all were able to get out of it with their contacts. All except Raghav who paid the price dearly - the reason why he keeps talking about Money all the time. He lost his father & younger brother. His Mom believes he's capable of something wrong towards a girl while we clearly see till now he's never been disrespectful.

Maybe that's why even Kirti hates him cos it was a girl who had files a case & them being in a small town caused disaster to struck at their homes.

Here also, obviously, he believes Pallavi called his Amma & thinks that I always help her & she,a lady, again is trying to demean me specially infront of my Amma & sister. That's gotta hurt real bad.

Ohh! And I also forgot the fact, that he always has only guys around for all his work. Farhad is his best friend cos he can trust a guy. But you don't actually see him employing women in his ventures at all. Ofcourse, it could be related to the fact that his business schemes're risky but also cos he can't trust the gender.

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Thanks for the tag Sonia🤗..

I haven't thought much on this track as if yet ☺️..so can't comment much..but I appreciate ur pov👍..lot of things can be in possible..

But for Keerti, I c...that whole the time Amma keeps on taking bad about Raghav..so from small onwards she heard, what Amma says..& she just can't side with him😔..she feels bad for him for sometimes 🥺, but not all..so she also same opinion as her amma

Originally posted by: SONIA441

I agree with your point of view here too. The plot could be that too😎

Mere paas conspiracy theories ki kami nahi hai 🤣

What I mean by Raghav not employing women is, I'm yet to see a female in a power position, like even as a manager in his stores. But that could also be because the makers don't show him visiting Jayati Jewels anymore ( also cos the shoot space would be at a different location & they can't visit it during COVID lockdown times much). It's also true that Keerthi hasn't stopped him unless he's been very wrong Eg:Akash's case. And yeah, Pallavi's case, I have always understood why he keeps spewing lines like 'Tum auraton ko kuch business nahi karna aata hai' cos it's true. She's naive to the business world as I have stated earlier before too.

Again, I guess that is a flaw with the narrative; we've seen him being crude with women but not disrespecting them except for the Anjali fiance thing, which really was not his truth to reveal tbh. He should have rejected on spot and moved on. Then she took revenge with that MMS scandal and he went on Pallavi's trail. Given that he has a jewellery business, it is obvious he does work with women associates, designers and employees. Yes, shoot locations and stuff also holds true here in terms of portrayal. I'm curious about Rao family past, but we'll get to it when it is the right time. Pallavi is naive, and reminds him of the home he never got to regain post a certain point.

I do have one more issue, we keep hearing that he's a Don but I'm yet to see him as one(except for how he dealt with Pallavi in the beginning...what'bt others) . The makers have always shown that he's a businessman through & through. And all businesses require some underhand dealings. That's fine by me. But show some DON type things na else he's just a shrewd & smart businessman, not a Don.😳

A classic case of inconsistent writing dearie. The only traces seen were right in the beginning and then maybe the Lion track with the gun, though they played it off as a one-time incident sorta thing. They have also whitewashed some earlier Don sorta claims, by stating he is only trying to avoid tax and smuggle diamonds. Maybe the Don version will come out now for the revenge, albeit after making us warm to this character and push us into a puddle of confusion

Sahi mein. Inconsistencies

Anjali wala thing even I agree. It wasn't his truth to reveal. But writers ko mahaan dikhana tha na Anna ko🤦. I don't want whitewashed Don. Mereko do yaar Dark characters. I recently read few FFs of Rishab Bajaj's character played by KSG last. And ohh Damn God, I would seriously want similar plot lines for Sai Ketan as Raghav Rao here. Our boy is good at his work & will definitely deliver. Sab waste hojaega😒

You & Me - Let's play conspiracy theories, mazza aaega😆