Unpopular opinion - Page 11

Originally posted by: Roch

Thanks, but i have a problem with both their behaviours. She is impulsive and at point rude as well. He is supposed to be the matured one but behaves like a kid at times.

I am around, but will connect with people who know the difference of opinion can also be there.

Roch ,

I had one friend who actually suffered a lot. Her husband was very egoistic , never used to listen to her or agree to anything ghar ho bahar never hesitate to humiliate her but if anyone say a word against her he used to pick up fight with them , her life had became a living hell , till she decided to quit & apply for divorce , later her husband apologize to her , now she is in better position coz her husband change for d good .

Her husband was an engineer but he had a very problematic or toxic behaviour .

I found sai to have such characteristics thou she is a woman so she will not never called toxic or problematic coz these words r only for restricted for men. My frnd also see this serial she only pointed out these things to me sai having qualities of her husband.

Everything can't be covered under age , sai had been rude to KJ & UM both .

Jo aaj sai ne kiya agar vo virat kare to vo bhi sahi hoga .

Agar virat bhi sai ke secrets Jan ke usse Nagpur ke newspaper mein print karne ko dede , kya ye sahi hoga.

Originally posted by: fatssrilanka

Virat kaunse angle se galat hi hai aur Sayi kaunse angle se hamesha sahi hai. Yeh baat mujhe hazam nahi horahi.

Virat har angle se galat hota hai or sai har angle se sai hoti hai kyun sai hai to sahi .

Some people r literally busy painting virat black as it's not frictional but a real man .

Originally posted by: Fruitcustard_9

Roch ,

I had one friend who actually suffered a lot. Her husband was very egoistic , never used to listen to her or agree to anything ghar ho bahar never hesitate to humiliate her but if anyone say a word against her he used to pick up fight with them , her life had became a living hell , till she decided to quit & apply for divorce , later her husband apologize to her , now she is in better position coz her husband change for d good .

Her husband was an engineer but he had a very problematic or toxic behaviour .

I found sai to have such characteristics thou she is a woman so she will not never called toxic or problematic coz these words r only for restricted for men. My frnd also see this serial she only pointed out these things to me sai having qualities of her husband.

Everything can't be covered under age , sai had been rude to KJ & UM both .

Jo aaj sai ne kiya agar vo virat kare to vo bhi sahi hoga .

Agar virat bhi sai ke secrets Jan ke usse Nagpur ke newspaper mein print karne ko dede , kya ye sahi hoga.

I understand what you are saying, and i would never say that it is always Virat who has been wrong.

Nope the man has tried to do things in his way and as he knew.

Both are different in nature and cant be compared. Like I Sai is rude thats her flaw and we can't cover it up by saying its her age. But then how these 2 out grow their flaws is the story.

I would still say let the entire scene play out, she should not have done it may be then there are many things Virat and Family should not have done it either. First and Foremost thing would be caging Devi Tai. Well they all were party to it, Sai toh came very late in the picture.

hate this current track. both of them are wrong. finish this stupid track

also posted in reply to another thread but this is all I have to say:

Well, I might be the only one, who may feel so but when I watched the two episodes shot at the dehleez, I had just one feeling: Virat had not planned to throw her out when he returned home - he was speaking of reining her in (just as misogynistic as it sounds). But he decided to go to the extreme when the family instigated him for "not doing anything", the "burning" of the (faltu) letter and his absolute rage as he recounted the intimate moments they shared all day until she vanished -- the rejection even before he could confess; she was just leading me on to get away with her conspiracy behind my back. You know, betrayal is one thing but when it is a spouse that betrays, the craze that can take over your mind is unfathomable. He lost his mind. He definitely did not expect Sai to run away, stand in his way (I don't even want to get into the illogical part of that whole police raid. I wish this character stops wearing the khakhi, it is such an insult), address him as "officer", not care about the consequences he would have to face with his family for her actions.

He announced the cutting of all ties after learning about the letter, imagining her conspiring while he was attempting to make their marriage come alive with a confession. Even when Ninad gave the option of the maafi and the shart, he waited for her to say sorry. Actually Vahini was unwittingly right when she 'taunted' him that he would have brought her back after cooling down if she had said sorry... He actually wanted her to say sorry --- a profuse one and kind of beg to be let in, may be also hear a "where will I go without you, you mean everything to me.. don't leave me"... It would have given him a upper hand, been betardine ointment on his deeply cut ego and allowed him to lay forth conditions to "rein" her to "redeem" his position of the chaheeta beta of the house.

But it was her unapologetic stance -- and going on the offensive, instead -- that made him go from bad to worse. He had no other option but to throw her out -- the wolves were not going to settle for anything less without the gidgidana from Sai. The whole dialogue exchange between them (leaving aside everyone else from the periphery) was the ugliest fight a couple can have. He humiliated her in the worst way that he could for his ego had taken over his mind by then. She remained adamant despite knowing that he knows nothing -- he may not even have believed anything that she would have said at that point but the fact is that his feeling of being betrayed was not wrong. But as usual, (I absolutely hate it when it happens) this man throws her to the dogs when he is angry and everyone can pounce, bite and maul her, her character and her intentions while he sadistically watches. I don't want to even start on that one. It is good that she did not say sorry and stay back because they need this separation to value each other. Much as I think that the way Virat dealt with the situation was illogical and stupid and the onus of not knowing the facts lies on him as much as it lies on Sai because he is the one who jumped to conclusions despite being a so-called police officer and I can vouch for this: cops are not stupid. They could be MCPs (gender-neutral usage) but they are N.O.T. stupid.

While my heart still goes out to Sai because, no, you can't just shut the door on the face of your wife without even wanting to know why she would do what she did and return home to you, I definitely want to blame Sai for hiding facts. Even if she says she doesn't consider him her 'husband', he does mean something -- he had the right to know. Am not sure if any one of us married women/men here would do something like that to our spouse's sibling/cousin by keeping them in the dark? I can't identify with the need to keep him in the dark -- okay, they were not on the same page but it needed time. Rome can't be built in a day. He had promised to reinvestigate. She needed to smartly open cards in front of him, quiz him and give him a chance to say "no" again to justify this decision. He was back from his training. He was showering his love on her and she could see it. There was no way he would not have believed her if she had patiently unfolded the truth to him in the confines of their room but her promise to an unknown man became bigger than the man she deeply respects.

Both their actions have damaged their marriage and at this point, it seems at an irreparable stage. But since she has left open the "Agar iss ghar ke log mujhse maafi maange toh..." option to him, I guess he will have to take it sooner or later. But an apology is not the same as repentance. Both of them need to repent if they truly seek each other -- first, they need to ask if they do truly seek each other.

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

also posted in reply to another thread but this is all I have to say:

Well, I might be the only one, who may feel so but when I watched the two episodes shot at the dehleez, I had just one feeling: Virat had not planned to throw her out when he returned home - he was speaking of reining her in (just as misogynistic as it sounds). But he decided to go to the extreme when the family instigated him for "not doing anything", the "burning" of the (faltu) letter and his absolute rage as he recounted the intimate moments they shared all day until she vanished -- the rejection even before he could confess; she was just leading me on to get away with her conspiracy behind my back. You know, betrayal is one thing but when it is a spouse that betrays, the craze that can take over your mind is unfathomable. He lost his mind. He definitely did not expect Sai to run away, stand in his way (I don't even want to get into the illogical part of that whole police raid. I wish this character stops wearing the khakhi, it is such an insult), address him as "officer", not care about the consequences he would have to face with his family for her actions.

He announced the cutting of all ties after learning about the letter, imagining her conspiring while he was attempting to make their marriage come alive with a confession. Even when Ninad gave the option of the maafi and the shart, he waited for her to say sorry. Actually Vahini was unwittingly right when she 'taunted' him that he would have brought her back after cooling down if she had said sorry... He actually wanted her to say sorry --- a profuse one and kind of beg to be let in, may be also hear a "where will I go without you, you mean everything to me.. don't leave me"... It would have given him a upper hand, been betardine ointment on his deeply cut ego and allowed him to lay forth conditions to "rein" her to "redeem" his position of the chaheeta beta of the house.

But it was her unapologetic stance -- and going on the offensive, instead -- that made him go from bad to worse. He had no other option but to throw her out -- the wolves were not going to settle for anything less without the gidgidana from Sai. The whole dialogue exchange between them (leaving aside everyone else from the periphery) was the ugliest fight a couple can have. He humiliated her in the worst way that he could for his ego had taken over his mind by then. She remained adamant despite knowing that he knows nothing -- he may not even have believed anything that she would have said at that point but the fact is that his feeling of being betrayed was not wrong. But as usual, (I absolutely hate it when it happens) this man throws her to the dogs when he is angry and everyone can pounce, bite and maul her, her character and her intentions while he sadistically watches. I don't want to even start on that one. It is good that she did not say sorry and stay back because they need this separation to value each other. Much as I think that the way Virat dealt with the situation was illogical and stupid and the onus of not knowing the facts lies on him as much as it lies on Sai because he is the one who jumped to conclusions despite being a so-called police officer and I can vouch for this: cops are not stupid. They could be MCPs (gender-neutral usage) but they are N.O.T. stupid.

While my heart still goes out to Sai because, no, you can't just shut the door on the face of your wife without even wanting to know why she would do what she did and return home to you, I definitely want to blame Sai for hiding facts. Even if she says she doesn't consider him her 'husband', he does mean something -- he had the right to know. Am not sure if any one of us married women/men here would do something like that to our spouse's sibling/cousin by keeping them in the dark? I can't identify with the need to keep him in the dark -- okay, they were not on the same page but it needed time. Rome can't be built in a day. He had promised to reinvestigate. She needed to smartly open cards in front of him, quiz him and give him a chance to say "no" again to justify this decision. He was back from his training. He was showering his love on her and she could see it. There was no way he would not have believed her if she had patiently unfolded the truth to him in the confines of their room but her promise to an unknown man became bigger than the man she deeply respects.

Both their actions have damaged their marriage and at this point, it seems at an irreparable stage. But since she has left open the "Agar iss ghar ke log mujhse maafi maange toh..." option to him, I guess he will have to take it sooner or later. But an apology is not the same as repentance. Both of them need to repent if they truly seek each other -- first, they need to ask if they do truly seek each other.

Originally posted by: Bluegrass

What did she exactly do? In a situation where she had seen that these people were willing to stoop as low as kidnapping, what could she do?

Virat is not an ideal investigator when it comes to his family : he was accusing Sai of colluding with Pulkit with ulterior motives. That she purposefully burnt the letter to save Pulkit. These are not the signs of balanced investigator. That's why people rarely get posted in their hometowns. Conflict of interests.

Again, Sai was impulsive, rash and wrong. But, this family is dangerous and people should be aware.

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

I am sharing something which many here might not agree with but for my sanity, I need to vent about today’s episode. I am disappointed with the neighbors' drama and nothing justifies Sai’s behavior for me. Before I say further, I want to make one thing clear, I don't support Virat throwing Sai out no matter how hurt he was and he needs to realize the grave mistake he committed , and similarly, I don't approve of Sai’s behavior for few reasons

1. Two wrongs never make a right: I don't think I need to say anything more.

2. Provocation is not a valid justification: Many might say Virat provoked her to take this step. If this is a valid reason to act this way, are we saying Virat was also right in throwing her out because he was betrayed, lied, and was kept in dark about the whole issue? We have discussed enough of Sai’s mistake in Devkit's marriage so I am keeping it as short as possible. Either both acts have to be right or both have to be condemned. Sai claims to speak only the truth then why didn't the entire truth was revealed about how Virat supported her for this marriage but the fake letter changed his perception and how he agreed for reinvestigation but she took a decision without informing him and how she has hidden the kidnapping drama from him and he found out everything when he caught her red-handed in the shaadi mantap.

3. Gratitude: Virat’s gratitude to KJ gets questioned every time he makes a mistake then can we question Sai about the same. Did she think of a man who stood by her in the times when everyone deserted her? Despite being a deal marriage, he went out of his way to make her feel special and did more than their deal terms. I need to clarify again it doesn't justify Virat’s mistakes.

4. Character assignation : I agree what Virat did was borderline domestic violence. Can we say everytime she hints about Virat Pakhi EMA in front of all is a kind of character assassination. Until now Virat hasn't crossed his limits in her presence nor in her absence so what makes her feel he will have a “good time” with Pakhi. I haven't seen him having a “ good time “ with Pakhi after his marriage. I agree Pakhi crosses her limits but why accuse Virat why not talk about Pakhi alone . She was told about his commitment before the marriage. If she found it disgusting she shouldn't have married him . Nothing was hidden from her. If she can get Devkit married against everyone’s wishes then I am sure she could have stopped her wedding as well. I have zero sympathies for Pakhi but Virat hasn't done anything to be accused. If she believes he is having an affair with Pakhi then why was she romancing him in the Holi party ? Isn't it equally disgusting to romance a man who had an affair behind your back?

Role reversal : Are we more sensitive to women's pain than men. If there was a role reversal and if Virat had done this would will we still, applaud him?

I am not her hater but I can't overlook her mistakes and I am either a misogynistic nor a misandrist. I believe if we say Virat deserves this then it goes without saying that Sai deserves whatever he did. I need to clarify again, I don't support Chavan's and Pakhi for their behavior. I would support Sai if she files a case against Chavan's for kidnapping and walks out of the marriage if she is unable to stay with him. Doing drama in front of the neighbors and returning to the same family , accusing husband of EMA whenever she is angry and romancing the same man when she is happy is not a sign of empowerment.

I am not tagging anyone as I believe not many people will be interested in this. I need to vent for me to feel better.

Disclaimer: I am a Sairat fan and will always be. We seldom talk about Virat’s pain hence i am sharing my views

I agree Sai's way was not a right way !!

1. Sai has sensed it long back that these people of CN are too much concerned about their reputation. Sai was thrown out of CN .She wanted to teach them a lesson as she didn't want to be considered as a helpless girl . It would hv become more uglier for fans to watch if she had reported a police complaint against virat and his family so in that way neighbors drama is quite harmless. Sai has no plans of coming back to CN . No one thinks of coming back and live happily in a house from which you have been thrown away

2. Yes , Sai was wrong when she kept virat in dark and hid her plan from him. He was ready to reinvestigate and it would be definitely a big shock for him seeing his wife betraying him . My support was with Virat until he let his anger overpowered .But other side we can't expect Sai to share her plan with Virat . She didn't even tell Usha mausi about this as she knew they both would never let her do this. Sai had plan of doing it on the day of holi so she also couldn't wait for Virat and above all she has been forced to not tell anything to virat.

3. Virat told Sai before marriage that he has someone else in his heart and can't give rights of a wife to sai but he didn't tell her that the lady he used to love shares a same home with them plus sai wasn't in state of refusing the marriage at that time . No one wants to marry a guy who loves someone else so it was a compromise for her . Virat has a soft corner for pakhi so you just can't expect a woman to understand the dynamics of your husband and his ex- lover until your husband has profess his love to you or create a wall between him and his ex-lover . Sai shouldn't taunt to virat in front of the whole family. Sai has sensed Virat fondness for her so it was showing her lack of trust in Virat but again it can be a Sai fear and insecurity. She knows in her absence pakhi will try to win virat's heart and Virat hasn't confess his love to sai yet so she fears Virat might go back to pakhi one day still I agree it wasn't right to object their relation in front of the whole family . What Sai said was true but only pakhi's side and the whole family is aware of it .

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Role reversal : Are we more sensitive to women's pain than men. If there was a role reversal and if Virat had done this would will we still, applaud him?

You know me, men or women doesn't matter to me, only their actions matters to me.

The role reveral question is an interesting one and I probably have an unpopular opinion about it.

Please don't misunderstand any of my below statements, it is not be applicable to all. It is not to hurt anyone's sentiments.

It is my general observation and knowledge. I have seen it and have also heard it from friends, family, neighbourhood, classmates, colleagues and so on.

"Are we more sensitive to women's pain than men. If there was a role reversal and if Virat had done this would will we still, applaud him? "

I don't think so. To be frank I have found many women to be more strict and harsh on other women. I am not sure if you know or if you would be surprised by this.

If there was a role reversal and Sai had ousted Virat, the audience would hated Sai much more than they are hating Virat now. The trp audience would be the first ones.

Before I write, let me tell you that I don't believe in judging people. I always believe only in trying to understand a person or a character.

The reasons I said that women to be harsh on other women are that :

Many have old school thoughts, very orthodox and believe in them strongly. They would not support people like Sai. This includes many young women as well.

They themselves would have gone through a lot, through misery and they always weigh the other person comparing with the misery they go through. This happens not only with women, men also do this. They would not want to give credit to another guy or his family member as much as he deserves it, because he thinks that he deserves much more. So getting harsh on another person has become very common, they give more weightage to their own work, struggles and pain.

In India, in many households, as you would know, there is abuse going on by in laws and by husbands, emotional, verbal or physical as well. Abuse happens in many other countries. But I am talking about our country because it is an Indian show, not because of the audience, because it is more relatable.

Now even if we discard people who are at the worst situation, there are people who are better off but even then would compare their pain with another person's pain.

If a girl goes through a hardship and has established herself, she would compare herself against Sai and feel Sai could have done better, and would feel Sai is lucky.

A girl who have or don't have inlaws at all, will still feel Sai is in a better position because Virat loves her, does special things for her which her husband fails to. So something that is missing in her life is seen in Sai's life, the rest of her struggles are ignored.

A girl whose dream was stopped after marriage, looks at Sai as a girl who is lucky.

A girl who has has no one to support her, is all alone and is suffering will look at Sai as a lucky girl.

Some also look at what their siblings go through. I have noticed many falling under this category in real life when women judge other women on harsh scales. They have so much sympathy towards their brothers that they turn blind eye to almost all women's pain sadly.

But these doesn't happen much with men. Because they hardly think about these things. If at all they weigh, they would only look at their success and question their worthiness. They are competitive.

Whatever I have said above, happens with family too. For instance, if a family is going through a lot of struggle, another family would neglect it thinking that they had gone through much more struggle. I don't know if it is a human tendency to weigh and compare one's happiness, pain, struggle, hardwork everything and it is becoming more common these days sadly.

What they should be doing is to look at that person, the individual and all the parameters surrounding the individuals before assessing them, not at all by comparing it with themselves or their siblings or their friends.

Empathy is kind of getting lost these days. I hear a lot saying, so what, my other friend had to put up so much more, this is not a big deal. Or sometimes, so what atleast his mother is getting pension, I know a lady who has no source of income at all. So what atleast she has got married to a good looking single guy, in another case, though the girl is youngs and beautfil, they got her married her to a dvorcee with 2 kids.

So as long as such mentality exist, with role reversal Sai would have been hated by many more than people who are hating Virat right now. Just my view. It is probably due to the fact that for some, "grass is greener on the side".

Originally posted by: laksh

You know me, men or women doesn't matter to me, only their actions matters to me.

The role reveral question is an interesting one and I probably have an unpopular opinion about it.

Please don't misunderstand any of my below statements, it is not be applicable to all. It is not to hurt anyone's sentiments.

It is my general observation and knowledge. I have seen it and have also heard it from friends, family, neighbourhood, classmates, colleagues and so on.

"Are we more sensitive to women's pain than men. If there was a role reversal and if Virat had done this would will we still, applaud him? "

I don't think so. To be frank I have found many women to be more strict and harsh on other women. I am not sure if you know or if you would be surprised by this.

If there was a role reversal and Sai had ousted Virat, the audience would hated Sai much more than they are hating Virat now. The trp audience would be the first ones.

Before I write, let me tell you that I don't believe in judging people. I always believe only in trying to understand a person or a character.

The reasons I said that women to be harsh on other women are that :

Many have old school thoughts, very orthodox and believe in them strongly. They would not support people like Sai. This includes many young women as well.

They themselves would have gone through a lot, through misery and they always weigh the other person comparing with the misery they go through. This happens not only with women, men also do this. They would not want to give credit to another guy or his family member as much as he deserves it, because he thinks that he deserves much more. So getting harsh on another person has become very common, they give more weightage to their own work, struggles and pain.

In India, in many households, as you would know, there is abuse going on by in laws and by husbands, emotional, verbal or physical as well. Abuse happens in many other countries. But I am talking about our country because it is an Indian show, not because of the audience, because it is more relatable.

Now even if we discard people who are at the worst situation, there are people who are better off but even then would compare their pain with another person's pain.

If a girl goes through a hardship and has established herself, she would compare herself against Sai and feel Sai could have done better, and would feel Sai is lucky.

A girl who have or don't have inlaws at all, will still feel Sai is in a better position because Virat loves her, does special things for her which her husband fails to. So something that is missing in her life is seen in Sai's life, the rest of her struggles are ignored.

A girl whose dream was stopped after marriage, looks at Sai as a girl who is lucky.

A girl who has has no one to support her, is all alone and is suffering will look at Sai as a lucky girl.

Some also look at what their siblings go through. I have noticed many falling under this category in real life when women judge other women on harsh scales. They have so much sympathy towards their brothers that they turn blind eye to almost all women's pain sadly.

But these doesn't happen much with men. Because they hardly think about these things. If at all they weigh, they would only look at their success and question their worthiness. They are competitive.

Whatever I have said above, happens with family too. For instance, if a family is going through a lot of struggle, another family would neglect it thinking that they had gone through much more struggle. I don't know if it is a human tendency to weigh and compare one's happiness, pain, struggle, hardwork everything and it is becoming more common these days sadly.

What they should be doing is to look at that person, the individual and all the parameters surrounding the individuals before assessing them, not at all by comparing it with themselves or their siblings or their friends.

Empathy is kind of getting lost these days. I hear a lot saying, so what, my other friend had to put up so much more, this is not a big deal. Or sometimes, so what atleast his mother is getting pension, I know a lady who has no source of income at all. So what atleast she has got married to a good looking single guy, in another case, though the girl is youngs and beautfil, they got her married her to a dvorcee with 2 kids.

So as long as such mentality exist, with role reversal Sai would have been hated by many more than people who are hating Virat right now. Just my view. It is probably due to the fact that for some, "grass is greener on the side".

Amazing!!

I agree with everything you said, except for the below-

But these doesn't happen much with men. Because they hardly think about these things. If at all they weigh, they would only look at their success and question their worthiness. They are competitive.

I have seen men going through the same things too. I know not many fall into this category. But I do have friends whose emotions are considered as their weakness, just because of the gender.

I have a common friend who is married. His wife is a homemaker and his parents are not dependent on him. They are blessed with a baby boy. Just within few days after this, she went back to her home. Now she says that either oust your parents or ask them to write their property on my name, otherwise I wont come to you. She didnt even let the father meet his son just because of this.

You know what, most of his friends taunt him that he couldnt handle his wife. He couldnt put her in place. I heard he tried to commit suicide but I didnt hear any of his friends support him. In fact, no one talked about her, everyone said it's his fault. All they say is he isn't manly enough to handle the emotions.even all the relatives, who knows them very well, said, they might have done something wrong with her, that's why she's taking revenge from them by taking away her son with her.

Though the context is different, I just wanted to share this as any such discussion reminds me of this incident.

Nothing related to the show, not to hurt anyone's sentiments. It's just what I have observed around me :)