Raqs-E-Bismil (Hum) Imran Ashraf,Sarah Khan - Page 37

Originally posted by: Zehnaseeb

I have to get this out there, i'm really enjoying the show, however the way they constantly deal with Sakeena's character is super disturbing. I know she's a flawed character and has made a ton of mistakes, but honour killing is not the answer. I hated it when Moosa tried it in the first episode, and its disgusting that Esa's reaction to finding out the truth is going to be the same thing, to shoot her. I really wish they would stop making honour killing look like such a normal thing. At least at the start she somewhat protested, now she's in so much guilt, she probably won't even care. Its super messed up to keep showing this!

Yeah they are seriously overdoing it! It's disgusting. I was already annoyed at fans hating on her so much when I felt like her reaction to being forced to marry someone else was justified. Obviously she is a flawed character and makes stupid decision, but they are taking it too far with her.

This drama is a bit chauvinistic if you look at it. Moosa the every amazing perfect lover type who went from wanting to kill sakeena and being a religious gunda to a suddenly lovesick stalker.... but hai bechara Moosa!!! Zohra, who is completely justified in not wanting to do anything with soemone who is basically stalking her (zabardasti hai kya?? Pyar bheek main nahi diya jaata yaar..) and still respecting his mother's wish and letting him go, marrying for her 'mother' anna ji and ppl still hate her for it.

I get when drama's deal with chauvinistic themes but it's grating when the characters are treated with chauvinism (not shocking since that seems to be the theme mostly these days). Im watching the show but frankly Moosa is the least interesting character for me.

Originally posted by: Arshi1195

Yeah they are seriously overdoing it! It's disgusting. I was already annoyed at fans hating on her so much when I felt like her reaction to being forced to marry someone else was justified. Obviously she is a flawed character and makes stupid decision, but they are taking it too far with her.

Exactly! Even I was super surprised seeing the hate she was getting which is why I was so hesitant to post this, but precisely. First, she was literally kidnapped when she tried to get married, then she was almost burnt alive, then she was forced into marriage with someone she didn't even like. Whatever she did following this was justified. Her being an idiot and making the mistake of running away, doesn't change all the crap she has had to endure up to now and doesn't override their wrong either.

Originally posted by: sephora29

This drama is a bit chauvinistic if you look at it. Moosa the every amazing perfect lover type who went from wanting to kill sakeena and being a religious gunda to a suddenly lovesick stalker.... but hai bechara Moosa!!! Zohra, who is completely justified in not wanting to do anything with soemone who is basically stalking her (zabardasti hai kya?? Pyar bheek main nahi diya jaata yaar..) and still respecting his mother's wish and letting him go, marrying for her 'mother' anna ji and ppl still hate her for it.

I get when drama's deal with chauvinistic themes but it's grating when the characters are treated with chauvinism (not shocking since that seems to be the theme mostly these days). Im watching the show but frankly Moosa is the least interesting character for me.

Finally someone said it! Exactly! Even his change of heart towards Sakeena only came because he himself fell in love it has nothing to do with genuinely realizing what he did to her was wrong. But now that he himself fell in love, suddenly love is everything pure and pious.

And Zohra, even I get where she was coming from in all this, considering how extremely religious his family is, there is no chance whatsoever for her to conceive a happy end for herself, with Shehryar, there was at least a chance that she would get a happily ever after, and even then she only took it up for anna ji, not herself, and she's once again being subjected to abuse, which just sucks. About chauvinism, some shows show it a little more subtle then other, this is too upfront in how extremely sexist it is. All the women in this show are treated with such disdain. Whether its their mothers, or Zohra or Sakeena or that new entrant or Sitara.

Originally posted by: Zehnaseeb

Finally someone said it! Exactly! Even his change of heart towards Sakeena only came because he himself fell in love it has nothing to do with genuinely realizing what he did to her was wrong. But now that he himself fell in love, suddenly love is everything pure and pious.

And Zohra, even I get where she was coming from in all this, considering how extremely religious his family is, there is no chance whatsoever for her to conceive a happy end for herself, with Shehryar, there was at least a chance that she would get a happily ever after, and even then she only took it up for anna ji, not herself, and she's once again being subjected to abuse, which just sucks. About chauvinism, some shows show it a little more subtle then other, this is too upfront in how extremely sexist it is. All the women in this show are treated with such disdain. Whether its their mothers, or Zohra or Sakeena or that new entrant or Sitara.

The show should have focused more on the rights of women in Islam. More specifically with showing that a woman can completely reject a Nikaah as a forced one cannot be done. As well as the fact that No means no! People argue that Sakeena is lucky to have someone like Esa, but the conversation should not be about the kind of person she gets with but about her Shariah rights being taken away when she was forced to marry Esa. The same goes for Zohra rejecting Moosa. Instead of stressing on the fact that what she did was right because it was HER choice...instead we keep hearing from different characters like Zohra's friend or Moosa's friend who keep taunting her for not being with Moosa. Moosa's friend, Muraad had been really getting on my nerves with all his statements about how she will be regretting saying no to Moosa etc

Originally posted by: Arshi1195

The show should have focused more on the rights of women in Islam. More specifically with showing that a woman can completely reject a Nikaah as a forced one cannot be done. As well as the fact that No means no! People argue that Sakeena is lucky to have someone like Esa, but the conversation should not be about the kind of person she gets with but about her Shariah rights being taken away when she was forced to marry Esa. The same goes for Zohra rejecting Moosa. Instead of stressing on the fact that what she did was right because it was HER choice...instead we keep hearing from different characters like Zohra's friend or Moosa's friend who keep taunting her for not being with Moosa. Moosa's friend, Muraad had been really getting on my nerves with all his statements about how she will be regretting saying no to Moosa etc

@red. Exactly.👍🏼 I am sick of those forced marriages being justified. As if women don't have the right to choose their spouses, or as if they have no brains to know what is right for them.🤪

@blue. I too felt the same when he cursed Zohra. I though angry with Zohra for not showing the same attitude she showed to Moosa with Shehryar😡, I agree that she used her right by rejecting Moosa, coz they are mismatched. 🤓

Originally posted by: Arshi1195

The show should have focused more on the rights of women in Islam. More specifically with showing that a woman can completely reject a Nikaah as a forced one cannot be done. As well as the fact that No means no! People argue that Sakeena is lucky to have someone like Esa, but the conversation should not be about the kind of person she gets with but about her Shariah rights being taken away when she was forced to marry Esa. The same goes for Zohra rejecting Moosa. Instead of stressing on the fact that what she did was right because it was HER choice...instead we keep hearing from different characters like Zohra's friend or Moosa's friend who keep taunting her for not being with Moosa. Moosa's friend, Muraad had been really getting on my nerves with all his statements about how she will be regretting saying no to Moosa etc

I fully agree, considering how they're shown to be such a religious family, this would have been the perfect show to get that message across. That you can't force someone to get married to you, or force two people into wedlock for whatever reason.

When it comes to Sakeena and Esa, along with the point you've made of the fact that she was forced into it. This was exactly what Esa had wanted all along, lucky for him, things worked out exactly as he hoped, so why wouldn't he be nice to her? Plus, although less aggressive then Moosa was at the beginning, Esa's answer to every problem and every issue is also to whip out a gun and threaten everyone with their lives. Is it really that wrong for someone like Sakeena, who's grown up seeing and hating this to not want this life for herself?

And Zohra, I can let go off her friend lecturing her, as i feel like she did that more for the well being of Zohra than Moosa, she just wanted Zohra to be happy and could see how much Moosa loves her. But Muraad is super irritating, he literally just gives badduas every living moment to her just because she refused to marry him. First of all, its none of your business, secondly its her decision, thirdly if both the people involved are trying to move on, you definitely should too.😆i'm trying to understand how the family will accept Zohra Moosa's marriage later on, if they are so hesitant now because of her background, later she will still have the stigma of her background, and the stigma of a divorcee on top of it.

Originally posted by: awida

@red. Exactly.👍🏼 I am sick of those forced marriages being justified. As if women don't have the right to choose their spouses, or as if they have no brains to know what is right for them.🤪

@blue. I too felt the same when he cursed Zohra. I though angry with Zohra for not showing the same attitude she showed to Moosa with Shehryar😡, I agree that she used her right by rejecting Moosa, coz they are mismatched. 🤓

The bit in blue, i feel like that attitude will come. Since they are newly married right now, I don't think she has quite caught on to the fact that he literally wanted her to continue with her profession, just as his wife. When she realizes that, i'm sure there will be a shift in her character. With Moosa it was different, considering he belongs to a family of peers, she knew that they belong to two different world and kept her distance.

Originally posted by: Zehnaseeb

The bit in blue, i feel like that attitude will come. Since they are newly married right now, I don't think she has quite caught on to the fact that he literally wanted her to continue with her profession, just as his wife. When she realizes that, i'm sure there will be a shift in her character. With Moosa it was different, considering he belongs to a family of peers, she knew that they belong to two different world and kept her distance.

I mean before getting married to Shehryar she showed that attitude to him too, but finally agreed to marry him against her wish. How can a strong girl like her give up to pressure and tie herself to a guy whom she doesn't like, just for Anna jaan They didn't even explain what Anna means to her, to make us relate ti. the idea of agreeing to sacrifise her life and happiness for her.😕

Do you watch Dil Na Umeed To Nahin ? In that show there's a kotha too, but it is more realistic than this one.😊

Originally posted by: awida

I mean before getting married to Shehryar she showed that attitude to him too, but finally agreed to marry him against her wish. How can a strong girl like her give up to pressure and tie herself to a guy whom she doesn't like, just for Anna jaan They didn't even explain what Anna means to her, to make us relate ti. the idea of agreeing to sacrifise her life and happiness for her.😕

Do you watch Dil Na Umeed To Nahin ? In that show there's a kotha too, but it is more realistic than this one.😊

Considering they have limited episodes and a huge story to tell, i feel like they built it up well enough. They've shown that Zohra is the only chick in the kotha Anna Ji actually cares about, going to the extent of allowing her to get an education to being super worried when she was kidnapped and leaving the choice of marriage to her. Likewise, Zohra must clearly feel indebted since Anna Ji took her in after what transpired between her parents and loved her like a mother would, so to me it makes sense. Plus I feel if Moosa's mom showed acceptance when she went to meet her, Zohra would have agreed to marry Moosa. However, his mom reacted exactly how she feared, which put a stop to it forever from her end.

About DNUTN, no, i've heard a lot about it, but i'm not watching it yet. Maybe i should start it.