Career oriented ambitious women - Page 2

Originally posted by: ashwariya_98

Exactly!

Even after she left he said "Meri soch kharab hai, khud ki harkate nahi dekhi".

He expected Anokhi to tell ACP off. But she didn't. She was comfortable with him. Instead , she had begin to tell him off. She refuses to sit in his car but she enters ACP's easily. She flinched when he touched her ,but she was very easy going with ACP touching her. (Again he proved this thought of his by saying " oh tumhe mere touch se problem hai? Honi nahi chaiye", while she only flinched cause he touched her injury).

Originally posted by: _charu_

So what if women do it ? It doesn't make them lose character. Probably A good charactered woman will wear ghoonghat and do maid jobs ,not talk to strangers and have some kind of esp to read his emotions.

His problem is not working women, he doesn't respect anyone outside his family zone , wo bhi his family is making a fool out of him. He lost all respect frm me today.👎🏼

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

No excuses for Shaurya today. He crossed all limits by talking to Anokhi in that hateful manner. If he is jealous, let him keep it to himself, get miserable, stay away from Anokhi, be distant, whatever, but he does not have the right to insult her in that cringeworthy fashion.

If Shaurya’s problem with women stems from his insecurities then he needs to deal with it, not let off venom at Anokhi. He has no relationship with Anokhi except as her Professor. So what if Anokhi is closer to Ahir? That is her prerogative, if she has fallen for the ACP, that is her business. She has not fallen for Ahir, we know that. But if Anokhi has fallen in love with Ahir, that is a matter of derision and gold digging to Shaurya? He needs to keep his nose out of who she likes and what she does. If he can sort out his own feelings for Anokhi and woo her, that is another matter. But to ask her to play the wild card and humiliate her by asking which card would she use, marriage or affair, was a bit too too much. I am glad Anokhi punched him and pushed him. He deserves that and more. And I liked Shaan’s telling his son off saying he was ashamed of Shaurya and that Shaurya was the one who was gattiya.

Originally posted by: Nomadic_Vibe

Sorry to interject but that is what we were promised at the start of the show so what else were we expecting? I already knew what I signed up. He is shown as modern day misogynist but his chivalry and care for last few weeks was taken in the wrong way by audience and they felt cheated and complained. Those who were watching the show could see this coming from mile and are not too surprised. People think misogynist are brash rude overtly MCP who would show women their place etc etc like lot of ML of ITV. People were confusing his chivalrous nature with his respect and care for women and were confused why the show promoted him as MCP. They don't get the distinction that misogynist can be chivalrous too. Infact they usually are the most chivalrous as they feel a woman needs a man's support care and protection constantly and can't do without it. Anokhi didn't help that perception by constantly needing to get saved or rescued or something. He respects a certain kind of delicate wall flower type of woman who seeks that protection and eventually he will get over that. I was always interested in knowing how he would overcome this prejudice so I am actually not mad at him and am looking forward to his evolution and changing perception ☺ it's basically a journey towards his growth

You are right. Chivalry isn’t actually seen in a positive light especially in modern times. All of his instances of helping women in need elevated his male ego even more. He liked playing that role and compared to other men like Vineet, Raja and Ramesh etc yes he stood out but the bar was so low to begin with.

Personally I did not expect him to support Anokhi during the ragging incident since that wasn’t how the original track went. But the writer put a spin on it which showed Shaurya in a good light - especially given how biased he was due to the Aastha connection. The fact he could do the right thing even with that bias put in a positive light. That started to elevate his character but again, he was protecting a girl in distress. He was dominant. But it all came full circle in the last few episodes when he expected her to be in shock and not able to deal with the situation herself. Flipped everything around esp with the ACP angle.

Originally posted by: somewhereover

You are right. Chivalry isn’t actually seen in a positive light especially in modern times. All of his instances of helping women in need elevated his male ego even more. He liked playing that role and compared to other men like Vineet, Raja and Ramesh etc yes he stood out but the bar was so low to begin with.

Personally I did not expect him to support Anokhi during the ragging incident since that wasn’t how the original track went. But the writer put a spin on it which showed Shaurya in a good light - especially given how biased he was due to the Aastha connection. The fact he could do the right thing even with that bias put in a positive light. That started to elevate his character but again, he was protecting a girl in distress. He was dominant. But it all came full circle in the last few episodes when he expected her to be in shock and not able to deal with the situation herself. Flipped everything around esp with the ACP angle.

Originally posted by: Nomadic_Vibe

Sorry to interject but that is what we were promised at the start of the show so what else were we expecting? I already knew what I signed up. He is shown as modern day misogynist but his chivalry and care for last few weeks was taken in the wrong way by audience and they felt cheated and complained. Those who were watching the show could see this coming from mile and are not too surprised. People think misogynist are brash rude overtly MCP who would show women their place etc etc like lot of ML of ITV. People were confusing his chivalrous nature with his respect and care for women and were confused why the show promoted him as MCP. They don't get the distinction that misogynist can be chivalrous too. Infact they usually are the most chivalrous as they feel a woman needs a man's support care and protection constantly and can't do without it. Anokhi didn't help that perception by constantly needing to get saved or rescued or something. He respects a certain kind of delicate wall flower type of woman who seeks that protection and eventually he will get over that. I was always interested in knowing how he would overcome this prejudice so I am actually not mad at him and am looking forward to his evolution and changing perception ☺ it's basically a journey towards his growth

I did not expect anything to begin with , I watch it wth an open mind , n I am able to do that because I don't particularly like the chemistry and go with the notion of "aweee so cute Jodi so anything is justified " .In my case it takes a lot more to reach that level of liking in a story.

Imo they r taking big jumps with shaurya every week hence his character and anokhis stopped making sense to me..but I thought chalo , for daily entertainment its not bad. Last week he made me believe he has feelings for anokhi (even that was out of the blue ) , this week he calls her loose character.... Now these words aren't to be taken lightly .

It's not anokhi and aastha who r using him and his father for their gains, its him who is in a position of power who thinks that thr world around him cannot function without his money , power , help and intelligence.... Anokhi has full rights to fall for.acp ahir so what ? He will call her loose character? She can be comfortable with ahirs touch and talk to him like a friend and more than that . She is her own person. Infact after watching shaurya today I feel anokhi was right in behaving like that with him at aasthas time. I take my words bk against her.

It's not like I don't like gray/disturbed/ layered characters ,infact these r the ones I like the most. BUT for that they need to give me a proper story around them n they failed to do it with shaurya ........ I am guessing he will again stop her rustication and try to become the hero in her life after calling her a loose character . Pathetic ! Whether or not this was offered to me , I am not afraid to call it wrong

At this point, I am confused about his characterisation. He clearly lashed out of jealousy. If he believes in the crap he blurted out, he should also have a problem when Anokhi does her work herself and not depend on him. For that matter, not even depend on ACP.

That's one of the reason why I want this cheating case to be resolved by herself and see how Shaurya reacts to her independence (with no Ahir in picture). He should have some issues with Anokhi not needing him at all for she is a woman who has to be under man's shadow.

Ragging case - He took that seriously about exposing real culprits after media got involved. Shaan pointed out this hypocrisy even back then that no one really cared for a girl or her life.

But that's when he got all thank yous from Anokhi. He continued taunting her. Then comes a form of guilt for doubting her actions when he realized media was called from his house. Not only is he rude to his mother, but what he told Shaan was terrible things too! He is irked by a thought of loving a woman with so much respect and desperation who left HIM and her family. He fails to see how Astha did not need his father for so long - does he think that Astha survived without having any other expensive bills to pay?

Anokhi is a proper reflection of Astha. She has her dreams and I do hope she fulfills them and the show stands by promise. Initial promos promised not just a misogyny in thought of what a typical small town girls expect but also their role within a family. It spoke about they are and MUST take care of family. Currently, if the blabbering is put out, Anokhi's takkar should continue with each and every page of such thoughts and not just about being gold digger or being tagged as characterless. She should be shown fighting the gender roles in the society. I want her to be the one to push Gayatri and Kanchan to follow their dreams. Gayatri clearly had some before she married Alok, but she was weaker than Astha.

Originally posted by: _charu_

I did not expect anything to begin with , I watch it wth an open mind , n I am able to do that because I don't particularly like the chemistry and go with the notion of "aweee so cute Jodi so anything is justified " .In my case it takes a lot more to reach that level of liking in a story.

Imo they r taking big jumps with shaurya every week hence his character and anokhis stopped making sense to me..but I thought chalo , for daily entertainment its not bad. Last week he made me believe he has feelings for anokhi (even that was out of the blue ) , this week he calls her loose character.... Now these words aren't to be taken lightly .

It's not anokhi and aastha who r using him and his father for their gains, its him who is in a position of power who thinks that thr world around him cannot function without his money , power , help and intelligence.... Anokhi has full rights to fall for.acp ahir so what ? He will call her loose character? She can be comfortable with ahirs touch and talk to him like a friend and more than that . She is her own person. Infact after watching shaurya today I feel anokhi was right in behaving like that with him at aasthas time. I take my words bk against her.

It's not like I don't like gray/disturbed/ layered characters ,infact these r the ones I like the most. BUT for that they need to give me a proper story around them n they failed to do it with shaurya ........ I am guessing he will again stop her rustication and try to become the hero in her life after calling her a loose character . Pathetic ! Whether or not this was offered to me , I am not afraid to call it wrong

I would be disappointed too if the underline thing would happen without redemption 😪

Originally posted by: ruchi3179

I am too much shocked today and it is as if history repeating itself in real life.I hv faced so much prejudice from my in laws specially father in law and husband because I don't fit in traditional avatar of a wife.This is so real and as a working woman most if the times I hv heard people whispering about me so many times.Anyway I am so strong that I changed my husbands soch.but still it is difficult for woman like me and anokhi

You go girl!!! I am extremely sorry that you went/ are going through such things. My mom despite being a homemaker and sacrificial, still she wasn’t given an ounce of respect; inspite of doing so much;

Such people don’t actually care career or not, they just view women as whole as second class citizens specially daughter in laws. I hope you succeed in life, never bow down, and never feel guilty, you might never know that if you were not working what more could they have said since now you are financially dependent. Just thought of saying this since my mother was made to feel guilty for the smallest of things.

My mother always says first be financially independent and everything else is secondary.

You are doing so amazing! I strongly believe the quote that whenever a woman takes stand for herself she takes stand for all the women!

Originally posted by: Nomadic_Vibe

Shaurya feels Anokhi is a social climber who is using her innocence as facade and moving through life. He feels that Anokhi first gave him attention and when he finally started falling for her and did her bidding saving her multiple times she owed him something. He went beresk when she gave attention to ACP which was bestowed upon him and was his exclusive right. He feels she used him for emotional support and when her work was done she moved on to ACP. He kind of said the same thing to Astha that you loved me till I was needed and then you discarded me in a dustbin when you didn't need me any longer. He genuinely believes that a career woman can only be successful if she successfully manipulates the Men in position of Power. He considers himself as one too. It was jealousy yes partly but it was much rooted complex prejudice against working woman. In Shaurya’s mind woman are of two kinds the small town home makers like Gayatri and Kanchan and they are good and then there are evil social leapers like Astha and Anokhi who claim they are independent self made women yet needs a man to do their bidding by controlling them. Point being ACP in Anokhi's case and Shaan in Astha's case. That's why he said I won't fall for this scam. He thinks he is better and stronger than ACP or his father who gets easily manipulated by such girls. He hates that Anokhi always flinch when he touches her with decent intentions, always trying to her off his hand while she is complacent with ACP's casual touch with wrong intention and Anokhi is fine with that just for the sake of her advantage.

Feel free to add and point out on points I have missed about his prejudice against Ambitious Women.

You explained it all! And seeing that this runs so deep idk how it is going to go away; I just don’t want anokhi to be hurt repeatedly, she doesn’t deserve specially after already being so torture by the hands of patriarchal men. She too is damaged and such things would just damage her more; what about her pain?

Shaurya needs to take this in consideration and I somewhere think he will after he gets to know her past.

At this point I feel shaurya is the one who needs to know to know anokhi’s past and understand her so that he can mend his ways.

Since there is no point in anokhi trying to understand shaurya if he isn’t going to change.

Yeah she needs to know his past so that she can show him the mirror that’s it; she should feel obliged to receive his toxicity.